Mad as HELL!

ME | 03-04-03 | strmchsertx

[Senator Pardek]

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[mathurine]

I think kids are made to pledge allegiance to a whole lot of liberal bullshit every day in school. They don't actually have to stand up with hand on heart to pledge their allegiance, they just have to be perpetually correct politically and socially as correct is defined by their neo-communist teachers.

[mathurine]

I think kids are made to pledge allegiance to a whole lot of liberal bullshit every day in school. They don't actually have to stand up with hand on heart to pledge their allegiance, they just have to be perpetually correct politically and socially as correct is defined by their neo-communist teachers.

[perfect stranger]

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[Bad_Samaritan]

"Did the U.N. or any of the countries involved in the U.N. give Saddam Insane the go ahead to make all those chemical weapons."

I don't know. Did the UN give us permission to make our chemical weapons?

"Did the U.N. or any of its members give Saddam the green light to kill all of those people in his country who opposed him."

I doubt it.

"We don't need anybody. We are the freedom fighters of the World now. When our freedom or anybody elses is in jeparody, I say it's time to act."

Well, then join the army, or get yourself elected to high office.

"Also for all of those out there who are protesting the war. Get off the meth."

I don't take meth. Actually I don't protest against the war, though I don't want it to happen.

"You keep saying that we are doing it for OIL? If that is the case, why don't we just declare victory in Saudia Arabia and Kuwait."

We are not at war with Saudi Arabia and Kuwait.

"We have enough troops there now to take over if we really were there for the oil."

Have you been there. I have, and I don't think we have enough people to take over two of our Middle East allies.

"The stories coming out now of teachers ridiculing families for going to the gulf because it's their duty really make me furious."

I haven't heard those stories, but if they're true, then it pisses me off too.

"I'm 33 years old. I would like to say to all vets including those who fought in Vietnam, here's a great big thank you for doing something for me even though you don't even know me. I really appreciate everything you guys and gals have done for me. God Bless All Of You!"

You're welcome, and thank you for the sentiment.

My kids go to a real small school here in Texas and their teachers have even told them that the Republican party is the party of the rich. Where in God's name did that come from."

Census data. I believe it too. I'm not saying that there aren't filthy rich dems, or greens, or my own non-affiliateds, but by and large, if you are rich and want to stay that way, you vote GOP.

"The bias in the schools, the media, and everywhere else is poison to our society."

By this, I'm assuming you aren't referring to the heavy conservative bias of Fox News, Rush, Savage and other media.

Another thing that really has gotten under my nerves here lately is this SUV nonsense. WHAT?? Don't we have more important things to consider at this point in time.

Some people feel that if we drive vehicles that consume less gas, we can become more self sufficent as a oil-consuming nation.

Something else. This ONE man who is trying to get God out of the pledge, needs to be stopped. ONE MAN. That's pretty pathetic. I guess it is just like the ONE WOMAN who took prayer out of schools.

Prayer, and 'under God' are fine in private (i.e. no federal funding) schools. If it is a public school, then the laws governing the separation of church and state apply. If you want to pray in school, go ahead, it is your constitutionally protected right, as is saying 'under God' during the pledge, or not saying the pledge at all. The teacher just can't lead students in these acivities, it is not in a public schools purview to do so.

[Passenger]

I'm a 16 year old high school student in suburban Virginia and I deal with this kind of leftist liberalism constantly at school. It's sickening to me that so many of them can just throw speculations out as if they are fully informed and aware of every detail of this war. Everything is anti-Bush, anti-war, anti-Republican. They have no credibility, yet nobody except for the few and the proud on this website, fox news channel, or the occasional journalist dares to step out and fight them. Commonly used insults to conseratives trying to stand up against liberal issues are "bigot", "racist", "right wing nut", "confederate", and others that I occasionally hear circulating in my school. Teachers poison the well frequently with hinted liberal bias and endorsed policies that only show the true one-sided liberalism that plagues our schools today. It's crazy. I hope, like you, at some point we proud Republicans take a stand against this terrible bias in the media and other influential branches of our society today. Nothing would make me happier.

[Ramius]

One thing we have to keep in focus here: Look at what we are fighting in the world, and compare that to what liberals think they need to fight.

Conservatives are fighting terrorism, socialism, poverty and other rotting forces on the cultures of the world.

Liberals are fighting the Pledge of Allegiance and the Boy Scouts.

Any questions?

[Ramius]

Hang in there... you appear to be doing just fine.

It's young men and women like YOU that show that this is the good fight.

[strmchsertx]

Hang in there man. Keep up the good fight.

[Ramius]

Wow.

Welcome to FR. You have a long way to go. Your education begins now...

[Two-Bits]

I know it gets disheartening sometimes especially since liberals makes no sense what so ever. You listen to them and think who in their right mind believes this crap? Hang in there, we are winning. Look at the Congress, Senate and our beloved President. Right now the only way a democrat can win an election is through fraud, bribery, and lies. I think when people compare President Bush to the "Zipper". It is like night & day. When people listen to conversatives vs liberals. Again it is night & day. Every day more and more People are crossing over. Now we have the internet, (Thank God for Free Republic), Fox News etc. Remember it took us fifty years to get in this mess but hopefully it will not take another fifty to straighten it out. There are more of us than them and we are growing. Let the liberals continue to be fools. Where else can you get this kind of entertainment for free? I use to get angry at their comments now I just laugh at them.

[Ramius]

Hang on... let me get this straight: You are actually saying that some beliefs and speech should be forcibly banned from utterance in public schools? Is that really what you are about?

[Bad_Samaritan]

I found you guys from a poster on another board that posts here as well.

[MEG33]

Hang in there!

[Dick Bachert]

Glen Beck wraps his head with duct tape to keep those in the area from being hurt by the shrapnel when his head explodes. Might try that before tuning in the network morning morons.

Better yet: DON'T TUNE IN!!

[Bad_Samaritan]

What I said was:

"If you want to pray in school, go ahead, it is your constitutionally protected right, as is saying 'under God' during the pledge, or not saying the pledge at all."

I just said that church and state laws prohibit reqiring such. I said the pledge of allegiance every day as a kid.

[Ramius]

Ah... I suppose it would only be polite to ask you to ask your friend to say HI to everybody over there at DU. :-)

We have a fun and collegial relationship that way. :-)

[Passenger]

Though I disagree with a large amount of your points, I would like to address the idea of "heavy" media bias as you have presented it. 86% of the news media are registered democrats. Fox News is the ONLY channel where there is any form of moderation of conservative and liberal viewpoints. If you want to throw out speculations about how conservative Fox News is, perhaps I'll give you mine. I would venture to say that those who call Fox News a conservative network only say that because they are used to the left being the reporters of the news (I.E. Communist News Network, ABC, NBC) with constant liberal spins and imbalanced talk shows. Fox News has some shows with arguably conservative hosts - But there are reasons that they are not anchors, but simply those who present their opinions just like Chris Matthews or Phil Donahue, like Neil Cavuto. The other shows that Fox News regularly programs such as the shows (The name eludes me at the moment) with Fred Barnes, Mara Liasson, Brit Hume, and Mort Kondracke as well as Hannity and Colmes provide clearly balanced opinions from both sides of the fence. Most other news channels have shows hosted by a progressive liberal, and just a flat out liberal. MAYBE a moderate. Clearly the premise that Fox News is heavily biased in the conservative direction is not only speculative, but factually untrue. Perhaps you have never seen their slogan "We Report You Decide". This is not just a random saying but a clear mission statement of the channel. You can choose to believe the credibility of their dedication to achieving this goal, but I believe my previously stated points concerning the content of Fox News offer some degree of proof that Fox News is not heavily biased in the conservative direction, but simply to the right of what has been previously accepted as the "news".

As well, Rush Limbaugh and Michael Savage have every right to assert whatever political opinions they hold. They are not neutral news anchors, but controversial talk show hosts who are not obligated to present anything with equal coverage to both sides. It is the anchors that twist and spin the facts in the news that I believe the original poster was referring to.

[Bad_Samaritan]

What is DU?

[ALS]

I thought it said that teachers couldn't lead the pledge.

Maybe we just need to have our kids stand up and say it at the beginning of each class.

That's protected, no?