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Armed Neighbors End Dog Attacks
http://carrollwood.tbo.com/carrollwood/MGAIHP0ZMBD.html ^ | 2/1/2003 | SEAN C. LEDIG

Posted on 03/05/2003 5:21:18 AM PST by 2nd_Amendment_Defender

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To: Badray; rugerman
Can you believe he didn't even KNOW about FR??

How does a conservative LIVE in California without knowing about FR????

LOL
141 posted on 03/09/2003 1:31:43 PM PST by 2Jedismom (You just never know.)
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To: 2Jedismom; rugerman
"How does a conservative LIVE in California without knowing about FR????

LOL

142 posted on 03/09/2003 3:59:30 PM PST by Badray
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To: China Clipper
Wow,

Good post. When do you have us scheduled for the Zyclon-B shower?
143 posted on 03/10/2003 11:37:03 AM PST by HogFixer
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To: 2nd_Amendment_Defender; dd5339
I like Sigs too but I think the single action pull of a .45 Kimber is far more professional than wiggly double action triggers. Although, for $425, one can only get a Rock Island .45 at most in 1911s and I am sure the Sig here is of superior quality and reliability than $400 range 1911s. Of course the 800 to $2000 Kimber is nicer if you have the money.
144 posted on 03/11/2003 2:53:55 AM PST by lavaroise
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To: lavaroise
Of course the $800 to $2000 Kimber is nicer if you have the money.

If I had an extra $1000 I would buy an M-1A Springfield rifle over a handgun any day. If a handgun is over $700, it's too high in price for me.

145 posted on 03/11/2003 3:46:32 AM PST by 2nd_Amendment_Defender
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To: Deb8
Deb: Please read this carefully, you obviously missed some things when you read your statistical evidence. The following was taken from www.dogbitelaw.com.

The dogs most likely to bite The Centers for Disease Control study dog bite incidents, including the types of dogs most likely to bite. The breeds that the CDC considers highest risk are pit bulls, Rottweilers, German shepherds, huskies, Alaskan malamutes, Doberman pinschers, chows, Great Danes, St. Bernards and Akitas.

Owners of such dogs should be aware that if their dogs attack a person, the attacks may be scrutinized by law enforcement. The reason is that irresponsible behavior with or toward a dog whose breed is known to bite has caused a rising and unacceptable injury and death toll, which authorities are determined to stem.

"Irresponsible behavior" is defined differently from place to place. In California, for example, it can be a felony for a person to possess a dog trained to fight, attack or kill that, because of the owner's lack of ordinary care, bites two people or seriously injures one person. (See Felony prosecution of attack dog owners.)

In different parts of the United States at the current time, there are a number of parents who are on trial for manslaughter because their dogs have killed their children. In these cases, the prosecutors have taken the position that the parents behaved irresponsibly because they left their children in the company of dogs most likely to bite.

There is an 8 out of 10 chance that a biting dog is male. (Humane Society of the United States.)

Although pit bull mixes and Rottweillers are most likely to kill and seriously maim, fatal attacks since 1975 have been attributed to dogs from at least 30 breeds.

The most horrifying example of the lack of breed predictibility is theOctober 2000 death of a 6-week-old baby, which was killed by her family's Pomeranian dog. The average weight of a Pomeranian is about 4 pounds, and they are not thought of as a dangerous breed. Note, however, that they were bred to be watchdogs! The baby's uncle left the infant and the dog on a bed while the uncle prepared her bottle in the kitchen. Upon his return, the dog was mauling the baby, who died shortly afterwards. ("Baby Girl Killed by Family Dog," Los Angeles Times, Monday, October 9, 2000, Home Edition, Metro Section, Page B-5.)

In all fairness, therefore, it must be noted that: Any dog, treated harshly or trained to attack, may bite a person. Any dog can be turned into a dangerous dog. The owner most often is responsible -- not the breed, and not the dog.

An irresponsible owner or dog handler might create a situation that places another person in danger by a dog, without the dog itself being dangerous, as in the case of the Pomeranian that killed the infant (see above).

Any individual dog may be a good, loving pet, even though its breed is considered to be likely to bite. A responsible owner can win the love and respect of a dog, no matter its breed. One cannot look at an individual dog, recognize its breed, and then state whether or not it is going to attack.

Enough said.

146 posted on 03/12/2003 12:06:28 PM PST by DaiHuy (MUST HAVE JUST BEEN BORN THAT WAY...)
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To: DaiHuy
Thanks for the info which totally supports my conclusions with the exceptions of your frequent lapses in logic.
First, the CDC considers highest risk pit bulls. Thanks for that confirmation.
Second, the owners culpability in the crimes of their dogs are irrelevant to the frequency of attack by each breed. Do you understand statistics?
The gender of the dog is also irrelevant to the dangerousness of the breed.
The fact that other breeds have killed (though not nearly in the numbers of pit bulls) is a mistake in logic by moving from a particular to a generalization rather than reaching a conclusion from general data.
The relative ability or inability of an owner to be responsible is a constant variable within all breeds. The independent variable is the breed itself. It does not explain the statistical danger of the pit bull.
BTW, I suppose you read about the child killed by a pit bull yesterday???
The breed should be exterminated.
Enough said.
147 posted on 03/26/2003 5:38:07 PM PST by Deb8
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To: FreeTally
I was thinking the same thing. I believe that the kids screaming worsened the situation.

If the dog owner's daughter is an only child the dogs very well may have not been used to the screaming. A child playing alone doesn't make a fraction of the noise two do.

148 posted on 03/26/2003 5:45:06 PM PST by Trailerpark Badass
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To: 2nd_Amendment_Defender

Good for the Guys with weapons. They likely saved the lives of the kids.

I know a dog trainer who knew of a local(two houses down) Pitbull that had attacked children on 3 different occasions, but being in a rural community, the local judge didn't do anything about it and in fact only once were the police even called. Only by sheer luck and the intervention of several people did the children live on each occasion.

He mixed Plaster O Paris in several pounds of hamburger and fed it to the dog. The dog died several days later, and the Children are in their early 30s by now. Dangerous animals need put to death. Animals are NOT equal to humans. They live to serve us or rather for us to serve them at Dinner.

149 posted on 03/26/2003 5:54:51 PM PST by Malsua
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To: Deb8
One factor to consider is that no one is breeding Labradors for aggressiveness. Many irresponsible pit bull breeders are. Also, that "limp racism" (which in my opinion has nothing to do with race) is a fact: many people in bad neighborhoods actually foster aggressiveness in an already-aggressive breed.

Add in the dog fighters, and you have a situation which is a bit more complex, in my opinon, than you make it out to be.

150 posted on 03/26/2003 5:57:32 PM PST by Trailerpark Badass
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