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Unnamed Democrat Edges Bush In '04, Quinnipiac Poll Most Americans Are Not Satisfied With Life Today
Quinnipiac ^ | 3/6/03

Posted on 03/06/2003 8:43:42 AM PST by areafiftyone

By a 48 -- 44 percent margin, American voters say they would vote for the as yet unnamed Democratic party candidate for President over Republican incumbent George W. Bush, according to a Quinnipiac University poll released today. 

Hampered by Americans' dissatisfaction with life in the U.S. and concerns about war and the economy, President Bush has a 53 -- 39 percent approval rating, the independent Quinnipiac (KWIN-uh-pe-ack) University poll finds.

Only 9 percent of American voters are "very satisfied" with the way things are going in the nation today, with 35 percent "somewhat satisfied;" 28 percent "somewhat dissatisfied," and 26 percent "very dissatisfied."

In an open-ended question allowing for any answer, 31 percent of American voters list war with Iraq as the most important problem facing the U.S. today, followed by 27 percent who list the economy/unemployment and 14 percent who list terrorism/security.

"This month, we find that an unnamed Democrat would edge out President Bush. The political winds are hard to read this early in the game, but we do know that war and a bad economy are not good for anyone -- especially sitting presidents," said Maurice Carroll, director of the Quinnipiac University Polling Institute.

Voters who list the economy/unemployment as the most important problem support the Democratic candidate over Bush 61 -- 32 percent.

American voters support 57 -- 35 percent U.S. military action against Iraq to force President Saddam Hussein from power, with no mention of weapons of mass destruction.

By an almost identical 56 - 38 percent margin, voters say the U.S. should wait for United Nations support, rather than moving alone against Iraq,

"Yes, Americans want to take out Saddam.  No, they don't want to do it alone.  They'd rather take some extra time and round up some help," Carroll said.

If New York Sen. Hillary Clinton seeks the nomination for President next year, she gets the support of 37 percent of Democrats nationwide, followed by:

Without Clinton, Lieberman gets 21 percent, followed by

From February 26 - March 3, Quinnipiac University surveyed 1,232 American voters, with a margin of error of +/- 2.8 percent.  The survey includes 470 Democrats with a margin of error of +/- 4.5 percent.

The Quinnipiac University Poll, directed by Douglas Schwartz, Ph.D., conducts public opinion surveys in New York, New Jersey, Connecticut, Pennsylvania and nationwide as a public service and for research.

 

1. Do you approve or disapprove of the way George W. Bush is handling his job as President?
Most important problem
Tot
Rep
Dem
Ind
Men
Wom
Econ
Terror
War
Approve
53
89
25
49
57
49
43
80
48
Disapprove
39
5
69
41
36
42
49
16
43
DK/NA
8
6
6
10
7
9
8
4
9
2. Do you approve or disapprove of the way Congress is handling its job?
Most important problem
Tot
Rep
Dem
Ind
Men
Wom
Econ
Terror
War
Approve
42
54
34
39
43
40
38
62
43
Disapprove
46
34
53
50
49
44
53
28
43
DK/NA
12
12
13
11
8
16
9
10
14
4.  Now I'm going to name nine Democrats who might run for president in 2004. After I read all nine names, tell me which one you would most like to see the Democrats nominate for president in 2004
Here are the choices...Connecticut Senator Joe Lieberman, Massachusetts Senator John Kerry, Missouri Congressman Dick Gephardt, North Carolina Senator John Edwards, former Vermont Governor Howard Dean, the Reverend Al Sharpton, Florida Senator Bob Graham, former Illinois Senator Carol Moseley-Braun or Ohio Congressman Dennis Kucinich
Dems
Lieberman
21
Kerry
12
Gephardt
17
Edwards
8
Dean
4
Sharpton
5
Graham
6
Moseley-Braun
7
Kucinich
2
DK/NA
18
5. Suppose New York Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton decides to run for president in 2004.  Who would you most like to see the Democrats nominate for president in 2004?  Hillary Rodham Clinton, Connecticut Senator Joe Lieberman, Massachusetts Senator John Kerry, Missouri Congressman Dick Gephardt, North Carolina Senator John Edwards, former Vermont Governor Howard Dean, the Reverend Al Sharpton, Florida Senator Bob Graham, former Illinois Senator Carol Moseley-Braun or Ohio Congressman Dennis Kucinich
Dems
Clinton
37
Lieberman
12
Kerry
8
Gephardt
13
Edwards
4
Dean
3
Sharpton
2
Graham
4
Moseley-Braun
3
Kucinich
3
DK/NA
11
6. If George W. Bush runs for re-election in 2004, in general are you more likely to vote for Bush or for the Democratic Party's candidate for president?
Most important problem
Tot
Rep
Dem
Ind
Men
Wom
Econ
Terror
War
Bush
44
89
9
39
48
39
32
72
40
Democrat
48
6
87
46
44
51
61
23
52
OTHER(VOL)
2
1
1
5
3
2
2
1
2
DK/NA
6
4
3
10
5
7
5
5
7
7. In general, how satisfied are you with the way things are going in the nation today?  Are you very satisfied, somewhat satisfied, somewhat dissatisfied, or very dissatisfied?
Most important problem
Tot
Rep
Dem
Ind
Men
Wom
Econ
Terror
War
Very satisfied
9
18
4
6
11
7
4
14
9
Smwht satisfied
35
52
20
35
37
33
25
55
37
Smwht dissat
28
23
34
28
27
30
35
23
27
Very dissat
26
6
42
29
23
29
35
8
24
DK/NA
1
2
-
2
1
2
2
-
2
8. What do you think is the most important problem facing the country today?
Tot
Rep
Dem
Ind
Men
Wom
Economy total
27
21
29
28
32
21
 Economy general
22
17
23
24
26
18
 Unemployment/jobs
4
4
5
4
5
3
 Economy other
1
-
1
-
1
-
Education total
3
2
2
3
2
2
 Education general
1
1
1
2
1
1
 Funding education
1
1
1
1
1
-
 Education other
1
-
-
-
-
1
Foreign affairs/Policy total
2
2
2
1
3
1
 Foreign affairs/general
1
2
1
1
2
1
 Priorities s/b at home
1
-
1
-
1
-
Terrorism/Security total
14
18
9
13
16
12
 Terrorism general
11
13
8
11
13
9
 Security/Safety
3
5
1
2
3
3
War/Iraq
31
28
36
30
23
39
Budget deficits
1
1
1
-
1
1
Taxes
1
1
-
1
2
-
Poverty/Homelessness
1
-
1
1
1
1
Healthcare/Costs/Insurance/HMO's
2
3
1
3
2
2
Medicare
1
-
1
1
-
1
Senior issues
1
-
1
-
1
-
Lack of ethics/Morality
1
3
-
1
1
1
Family breakdown/Family values
1
1
-
1
-
1
Politicians/Campaigns
4
2
5
5
4
4
Immigration
1
1
1
1
-
1
Other
6
8
3
6
6
6
DK/NA
2
2
1
2
2
2
9. Would you favoror oppose having United States forces take military action against Iraq to force Saddam Hussein from power?
Most important problem
Tot
Rep
Dem
Ind
Men
Wom
Econ
Terror
War
Favor
57
84
36
53
63
50
51
81
50
Oppose
35
10
56
37
30
41
39
14
42
DK/NA
8
6
8
9
7
9
9
5
8
10. What do you think ismoreimportant -
A) For the UnitedStates to move quickly against Iraq, even if that means acting without the support of the United Nations Security Council
or
B) for the United States to keep trying to win support from the United Nations Security Council, even if that means moving more slowly against Iraq?
Most important problem
Tot
Rep
Dem
Ind
Men
Wom
Econ
Terror
War
A) Move quickly without support
38
63
23
32
44
34
36
54
33
B) Wait for supp/Move more slowly
56
34
69
61
51
60
61
43
63
DK/NA
6
3
8
7
5
7
3
3
4


TOPICS: Breaking News; Government; Politics/Elections; US: Connecticut; US: New Jersey; US: New York
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To: ilgipper
Juan and Evita own a considerable bloc of the Democratic vote. This group votes against Bush 100% on very occasion.
51 posted on 03/06/2003 9:23:27 AM PST by RobbyS
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To: rs79bm
MEET THE UN-NAMED DEMOCREEP!

52 posted on 03/06/2003 9:24:53 AM PST by areafiftyone (The U.N. is now officially irrelevant! The building is for Sale!!!)
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To: rs79bm
The biassed author implies that people would prefer ANYONE but Bush.

But the real story is that people would prefer to BUsh to ANYONE the dims have to offer.

53 posted on 03/06/2003 9:25:39 AM PST by Notwithstanding (What have you done for LIFE lately?)
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To: RJCogburn
The upcoming war is obviously a kicker, but absent that, it really is the economy.......

Yes, you are right. Unfortunately, most voters don't have a grasp at the simple concept of supply and demand. Thus they didn't (and still don't) recognize a hyperactive economy like that of the late 1990's that was based on overextended credit and speculation, much like that of the 1920's. Oh, granted, they do know plenty of their personal economy, but they either cannot or don't wish to grasp the big picture.

This poll does illustrate that the liberal media's continued attack on the economy is gaining traction. We're not in a recession, and yet they call it one. The overall market's primary downward force is both the uncertainty as related to the Iraq situation, and the correction from the late 1990's when "artificial exuberance" was king. What magnifies the idea that the economy is in sad shape is that the liberals are selectively using the stock market as the only indicator of economic strength while they talk things down.

Perception outranks reality.

55 posted on 03/06/2003 9:26:13 AM PST by meyer
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To: areafiftyone
can you spell h-o-r-s-e-s-h-i-t
56 posted on 03/06/2003 9:27:37 AM PST by The Wizard (Demonrats are enemies of America)
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To: areafiftyone
in New York, New Jersey, Connecticut, Pennsylvania and nationwide as a public service and for research.

Well DUHH! Of course Bush would lose in those bastions of socialistic dementia. Now let them take a poll is some states south of the Mason-Dixon line and see how their beloved Hitlery makes out.

I think it's great that the two top Dem vote-getters are Hitlery and Lieberman. I can't help but believe she is the most hated woman in America, outside CA and the NE at least, and Lieberman has all the charisma and voter appeal of a TX horned toad. Millions of people who have never voted before in their entire lives would turn out in a raging blizzard to vote against Hitlery.

Most people instinctively like Bush even if they don't agree with some of his agenda. It's fact that a large percentage of people vote for who they like as a person, not whose programs or politics they most agree with. Bush will mop the floor with any of the Dems listed in this worthless poll.

57 posted on 03/06/2003 9:29:05 AM PST by epow
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To: TheBigB
Two years into Sinkmaster's Presidency, polls said Bob Dole would defeat Bill Clinton in 1996, and President Reagan's approval rating was under 40% in 1982. We all know what happened.

Exactly, although a lot of people on this thread will be getting the vapors.

Polls are a snapshot in time and right now the times are uncertain, when the war is won, things will get back to normal. Oil prices will sink and the stock market should rise considerably.

Capital spending held back because of uncertainty will give a boost to the economy after the war, IMHO.

58 posted on 03/06/2003 9:30:37 AM PST by Dane
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To: areafiftyone
Typical Liberal WET...dream...America's Terror
59 posted on 03/06/2003 9:30:52 AM PST by skinkinthegrass (Just be because your paranoid,doesn't mean they aren't out to get you. :)
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To: meyer
I agree that the economy is not as bad off as the left would have us believe, but there are significant problems with unemployment and under employment that certainly creates a visceral as well as intellectual reaction. Interest rates can't get much lower, refinancing will have to run its course eventually and that may effect consumer spending and send things worse.

I'm no economist or expert, but that visceral 'sense' of how things are, regardless of fact will influence a bunch of people's votes.
60 posted on 03/06/2003 9:35:06 AM PST by RJCogburn (Yes, it is bold talk.....)
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To: areafiftyone; Mo1
And now, the translation from Quinnipiac PR into English:

Frequently cited by journalists, public officials and researchers, the independent Quinnipiac University Poll regularly surveys residents in Connecticut, New York, New Jersey, Pennsylvania and nationwide about political races, state and national elections, and issues of public concern, such as schools, taxes, transportation, municipal services, and the environment. Known for its exactness and thoroughness, the poll was selected a "winner" by the New York Post for the most accurate prediction on the Schumer-D'Amato Senate race in 1998, and results are featured regularly in The New York Times, The Washington Post, USA Today, The Wall Street Journal, and on national network news broadcasts. Student interviewers use a computer-assisted telephone interviewing system to collect data from tri-state residents. For a typical public opinion survey, a randomly selected sample of about 1,000 registered voters age 18 and over are interviewed over five or six days. The polls are conducted at the Polling Institute on New Road, adjacent to the main campus.

"Our polls are routinely cited by the hungry-for-any-data, intensely competetitive NYC news media. Hell, They'd run the results of Ralph's Poll Service if the "results" Ralph provided were conveniently different from every respected poll company .. just as our polls are treated. We got really lucky on a single race call five years ago, and have been coasting on the coattails of that one correct prediction ever since, even though we routinely do at least one high profile poll every months."

61 posted on 03/06/2003 9:38:21 AM PST by Dont Mention the War ("Quinnipiac" - Native American for "Big Smelly Compost Heap of RAT Dung")
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To: MattinNJ
After Iraq folds in 15 minutes and OBL is captured (IMHO both will happen within 2 weeks) GW's approval will shoot through the roof

Yep just like his father's did and what happened to him

Remember but for the grace of Ralph Nader and Pat Buchanan in FLA Gore would be president today
62 posted on 03/06/2003 9:39:37 AM PST by uncbob ( building tomorrow)
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To: finnman69
Just heard on ABC Radio news that sources indicate we think we know where Osama is and are closing in on him. Imagine hat the capture of Osama will do for the stock market, the economy and these polls.

and a month later the average American won't remember who Bin Laden was
63 posted on 03/06/2003 9:43:19 AM PST by uncbob ( building tomorrow)
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To: areafiftyone
I just quit the Republican party and went with the libertarians. I agree with almost everything that I read at the Cato Instute website, and don't want to be in the same party with Rumsfeld and McCain.

And, both the Democrats and the Republicans have not been living up to their oath of office. Both have been trying to get around the Constitution to further their agendas.

64 posted on 03/06/2003 9:48:45 AM PST by Bogie
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To: epow
Hitlery and Lieberman. I can't help but believe she is the most hated woman in America, outside CA and the NE at least, and Lieberman has all the charisma and voter appeal of a TX horned toad...

While she IS...etc., to equate LIEberman with an TX Horned toad is an insult to the Texas Short-Horned Lizard...they're handsome compared to these two EVIL Creatures...the Lizards can't help it...these two EVIL Creatures are in class as MAO, STALIN, HITLER, POL POT,BILL C., JIM WRIGHT...etc...all scum of the earth.

66 posted on 03/06/2003 9:51:16 AM PST by skinkinthegrass (Just be because your paranoid,doesn't mean they aren't out to get you. :)
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To: JohnHuang2
Interesting that two different polls done duirng the same time period have a wide difference in % approval of the President.

My hunch is that Quinnipac skewed their poll in the liberal metropolitan areas of the NE.

67 posted on 03/06/2003 9:52:18 AM PST by Dane
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To: finnman69
bump
68 posted on 03/06/2003 9:54:39 AM PST by TLBSHOW (God Speed as Angels trending upward dare to fly Tribute to the Risk Takers)
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To: cactusSharp; ALOHA RONNIE
Hillary's Running, for sure.

The independent Quinnipiac (KWIN-uh-pe-ack) University poll has always been the one to emphasize push Hillary's popularity -

Independent? You be the judge.
69 posted on 03/06/2003 9:55:57 AM PST by flamefront (Take the oil money from the islamofascists! And don't give it to the UN.)
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To: MattinNJ
OBL is captured (IMHO both will happen within 2 weeks)

The name of Sa'ad bin Laden, 25, OBL's son and heir to the Alquaida corporation was brought up this morning on the news. He is apparently close to being captured in the region between Iran and Pakistan. He is the Number One of Alqaida since last year, and possibly since 15 Dec 01.

70 posted on 03/06/2003 9:56:53 AM PST by RightWhale (Theorems link concepts: Proofs establish links)
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To: Bogie
That is your choice. I cannot say anything more. I hope the Libertarian party turns out to be everything you hope for and I am not being sarcastic. I really mean it. Being able to do what you did is what makes our country great! :-)
71 posted on 03/06/2003 9:57:45 AM PST by areafiftyone (The U.N. is now officially irrelevant! The building is for Sale!!!)
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To: RJCogburn
I agree that the economy is not as bad off as the left would have us believe, but there are significant problems with unemployment and under employment that certainly creates a visceral as well as intellectual reaction. Interest rates can't get much lower, refinancing will have to run its course eventually and that may effect consumer spending and send things worse.

Agreed - though refinancing in the long run is usually better. In my case, I spent a bit up front for a lower rate, but my break-even point is only 26 months (+/-) or so into the future. From that point on, its all positive. I beleive that despite many folks taking on bitter mortgages with a refinance (roll your credit debt into one low monthly payment!!!!), most of us just work it towards paying less overall interest to the bank during the course of ownership of the property.

One thing that the lower interest rate has inspired is the movement of housing as a whole. I don't know about the whole country, but they're building as fast as they can around here. Its strange. (Oddly, we have a very low unemployment rate locally, something around 4%). Anyway, once people settle into their respective abodes and are satisfied again, housing will slow down. It remains to be seen where people will put their money after that (if they have any).

I'm no economist or expert, but that visceral 'sense' of how things are, regardless of fact will influence a bunch of people's votes.

Yes, you are right. In some cases, it is a personal economic reality, but in others, the sense is derived from sensationalized news stories. The liberal mainstream media still has a firm grasp on many in this country.

72 posted on 03/06/2003 9:59:26 AM PST by meyer
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To: Dane
My hunch is that Quinnipac skewed their poll in the liberal metropolitan areas of the NE.

Dittos.

73 posted on 03/06/2003 9:59:46 AM PST by JohnHuang2
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To: epow; JohnHuang2
Lieberman has his own problem.

He's just too hawking for the Dem base. They will go to the Green Party in a protest vote in enough areas to hand the election to Bush.

Not that I would OBJECT to such a thing, but it would kill the Dems.
74 posted on 03/06/2003 10:00:16 AM PST by hchutch ("Last suckers crossed, Syndicate shot'em up" - Ice-T, "I'm Your Pusher")
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To: skinkinthegrass
Go Libertarian! I did, and I'm actually a distant cousin of GWB's.
75 posted on 03/06/2003 10:00:52 AM PST by Bogie
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To: anniegetyourgun
we are in trouble and until the republicans get their act together I fear for what I thought back in Novemeber was a landslide in 2004

FOX News/Opinion Dynamics Poll. Latest: Feb. 25-26, 2003. N=900 registered voters nationwide. MoE ± 3.
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"If the 2004 presidential election were held today, do you think you would be more likely to vote to reelect President Bush OR for the Democratic candidate?"


2/03 Bush 42% democrats 38%


11/02 Bush 44% democrats 21%

76 posted on 03/06/2003 10:01:24 AM PST by TLBSHOW (God Speed as Angels trending upward dare to fly Tribute to the Risk Takers)
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To: areafiftyone; Mia T
American voters say they would vote for the as yet unnamed Democratic party candidate for President

Hillary has been registered for years for the 2004 election, check the FEC records.

There is no such thing as an "unnamed" candidate.

Name her - Hillary.

77 posted on 03/06/2003 10:01:56 AM PST by flamefront (Take the oil money from the islamofascists! And don't give it to the UN.)
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To: flamefront
BARF - there goes my lunch!
78 posted on 03/06/2003 10:05:27 AM PST by areafiftyone (The U.N. is now officially irrelevant! The building is for Sale!!!)
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To: Bogie
Go Libertarian! I did, and I'm actually a distant cousin of GWB's.

Actually for truth in advertising the link you gave should be the political arm of Libertarianism, Libertarian Party, not the Cato Institute.

People can read the LP's pro-drug and basically pro-saddam rants there.

79 posted on 03/06/2003 10:06:08 AM PST by Dane
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To: areafiftyone
The people interviewed for this poll must have all be college professors from this so called institution of higher learning.
80 posted on 03/06/2003 10:06:14 AM PST by RetiredArmy
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To: areafiftyone
Well, I would never be so naive as to think that the Devil wouldn't come after them too. But, right now, maybe because they don't actually hold any power, they are the only party that stands with the spirit of the Constitution.
81 posted on 03/06/2003 10:08:16 AM PST by Bogie
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To: finnman69
Problem for the Dems is, anyone who actually has a name, is undesirable by a boatload of people. If they could only put "unnamed Democrat who is just great...and you'll find out who it is later" then they might win. Stupid, pointless poll. Comparing an "idea" to a real person....sheesh.
82 posted on 03/06/2003 10:09:18 AM PST by Wyatt's Torch
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To: hchutch
Re: #74 -- spot on, amigo.
83 posted on 03/06/2003 10:12:10 AM PST by JohnHuang2
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To: areafiftyone
99.99% of liberals think life under the taliban was better fof the afghans than life with President Bush in office in THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA......PRAY Aand SUPPORT OUR TROOPS!!!
84 posted on 03/06/2003 10:13:35 AM PST by saxxa
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To: areafiftyone
all these polls are meaningless...
case in point - Reagan had a 35% approval rating in early 1983...and we all know what happen in 1984...

Bush-41 had a 85% approval rating in early 1991, and we all know what happen in 1992...

also, look at the issue distribution -

economy - Bush seems weak there - but whathappen if the economy not getting worse and the dow jones industrials are back over 8500/9000 again...

terror - this is a hands down issue for Bush - the only trouble is if we fold the entire al qaeda by 2004 - it could be a double edge sword...lol

war - gee whiz - a marginal issue by 2004 - if it is still an issue by 04 - this means the war is not going well, then all bets are off...and if war is not an issue - this means the war goes well, Bush&Blaire are vindicated - so it wont be negative regardless...

then you look at the gender gap - I think the Male numbers are way off - how can Bush has such a high job approvals in the Males and yet get so few votes in the 04 election...

these polls are for junkies - mean nothing -

afterall, it depends on who's the candidate -

do you trust a guy like Kerry from good ole Mass..
or a minnow Govn like Dean from the far left
and let's not forget good ole Rev. al..

85 posted on 03/06/2003 10:14:06 AM PST by FRgal4u
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To: Dane
Yes, your right about the drugs, though I think the average kid in America dosen't deserve to have a jail term over it. (Some big time dealers sure do though.)

The drug issue makes this party seem cheap, at a time when this country never needed the Constitution more. And, maby that's part of the "con." Yet, I hope to help change that.

And, the Cato Instute does have the Libertarian philosophy!

86 posted on 03/06/2003 10:22:19 AM PST by Bogie
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To: WI Conservative 4 Bush
I know. It's unfortunate for them that they actually have to nominate somebody, isn't it?
87 posted on 03/06/2003 10:23:02 AM PST by RichInOC (...especially from this bunch of clowns...)
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To: JohnHuang2; Poohbah; Luis Gonzalez; mhking
To be honest, it really wasn't that hard to figure out.

What we have here is, for the most part, a return to the "Cold War" politics from 1968-1988. And the Left is making the same mistakes they made back then, because they are in a corner.

If they go along with the war, their base will stay home or vote for the Green Party, and the Dems lose. But if they placate their base, the GOP will pick up most of the centrists who DO support the war, and the Dems lose.

In short, they are screwed. There are fundamental contradictions with political reality that they are not going to be able to overcome sans a massive realignment.
88 posted on 03/06/2003 10:32:19 AM PST by hchutch ("Last suckers crossed, Syndicate shot'em up" - Ice-T, "I'm Your Pusher")
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To: Bogie
The drug issue makes this party seem cheap, at a time when this country never needed the Constitution more. And, maby that's part of the "con." Yet, I hope to help change that.

Knock yourself out. The Libertarians are pro-drug and also it seems anti-war like the liberal left.

89 posted on 03/06/2003 10:35:14 AM PST by Dane
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To: areafiftyone
Voters who list the economy/unemployment as the most important problem support the Democratic candidate over Bush 61 -- 32 percent.

Hello.... McFly....

The economy is as bad as I have ever seen it.

90 posted on 03/06/2003 10:58:38 AM PST by Lazamataz (I have learned, over the years, to NEVER assume ANYTHING..)
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To: anniegetyourgun
I'm not buying this poll for a minute

You better. The economy is utterly trashed and Americans vote their pocketbook.

91 posted on 03/06/2003 10:59:26 AM PST by Lazamataz (I have learned, over the years, to NEVER assume ANYTHING..)
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To: RJCogburn
I agree that the economy is not as bad off as the left would have us believe, but there are significant problems with unemployment and under employment that certainly creates a visceral as well as intellectual reaction.

It is every bit as bad as, or worse, than the left portrays. I've never seen anything like this before.

92 posted on 03/06/2003 11:02:01 AM PST by Lazamataz (I have learned, over the years, to NEVER assume ANYTHING..)
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To: RightWhale
The name of Sa'ad bin Laden, 25, OBL's son and heir to the Alquaida corporation was brought up this morning on the news. He is apparently close to being captured...

These guys can run but they can't hide. They really should have started this fight on Clinton's watch. Instead of being vaporized by a drone Allbright would have gone over and apologized to them.

The louder the leftists squeal the more I realize that GW is one of the top 10 POTUS' of all time.

93 posted on 03/06/2003 11:02:19 AM PST by MattinNJ
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To: uncbob
Remember but for the grace of Ralph Nader and Pat Buchanan in FLA Gore would be president today

I remember watching Meet the Press when Buchanan and Nader were on. It turned out that Buchanan cost GW more electoral votes then Nader cost Gore. I can't remember all the states but I do know that New Mexico would have gone for GW if Buchanan had not run.

94 posted on 03/06/2003 11:05:21 AM PST by MattinNJ
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To: meyer
The liberal mainstream media still has a firm grasp on many in this country.

I know you're right, but hopefully that is slowly changing as more people have access to other information channels.

IMHO the liberal media has planted the belief in the public's psyche that presidents bear total responsibility for the state of the national economy. That belief has worked for many electoral cycles, purely by chance IMHO, to the advantage of the media's favored candidates, liberal Democrats.

I mean by that, the phenomenon known as the business cycle has by chance favored the Democratic administration for the past 7 or more decades. That phenomenon seems to operate largely independent from government fiscal policy, and Republican presidents have usually had the great misfortune of riding the downside of the cycle. I offer Hoover, Nixon (as Ike's VP), Ford (although the Nixon pardon hurt him too), and Bush #1. Only once in recent history has the cycle worked against a Democrat, the bumbling, clueless Jimmy Carter. It appears to me that the liberal media has a powerful interest in promoting the notion that the economic philosophy of administrations determines the economic health of the nation.

Hopefully the dismal pattern will be broken in '04. I am very hopeful that by then the tide will be running in favor of the Bush administration, and for once the fallacy that presidents are wholly responsible for the state of the economy can work to our benefit. (fingers crossed)

95 posted on 03/06/2003 11:07:15 AM PST by epow
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To: areafiftyone
Having been polled by Quinnipiac in the past, I KNOW they operate a slanted and biased poll.

The jerk who runs it, one Mr. Carroll, is a doctrinaire left-wing liberal Democrat. (His son is an outstanding New Jersey Conservative Republican Assemblyman - pro-gun, anti-abortion, and strongly pro-Constitution. I guess all the Brains in the family went to the son.)
96 posted on 03/06/2003 11:09:02 AM PST by ZULU (You)
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To: hchutch
In short, they are screwed.

Exactly. Classic Catch-22.

97 posted on 03/06/2003 11:10:27 AM PST by JohnHuang2
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To: Lazamataz
I don't think pool is crap either. The economy sucks.

It would not suprise me to see "President Graham" if he gets past the primary unless things turn around quick.

98 posted on 03/06/2003 11:14:42 AM PST by Dan from Michigan (Every man dies. Not every man really lives.)
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To: uncbob
W. will probably going to end up being a one term President if the Demon-Rats get organized to demonize him as inarticulate?. They are not too vocal now because of the Iraq thing. Remember lots of Demon-Rats are backing the Iraq thing. Once that thing is over, the late night comics will unleash their hate campaign.
99 posted on 03/06/2003 11:19:24 AM PST by philosofy123
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To: skinkinthegrass
to equate LIEberman with an TX Horned toad is an insult to the Texas Short-Horned Lizard

Please accept my most humble apologies for insulting the magnificent TX Short-Horned Lizard by comparing it to the junior Senator from CT. For some reason I am reminded of some reptilian-featured life form whenever I see the Senator on TV, and the TSHL came first to mind.

My father's side of our family goes back to the 1840's as citizens of the great state of TX. Many of my relatives reside in various sections of that great state even today. In no way would I ever knowingly insult an esteemed citizen of that state, and by virtue of having lived there for untold millennia, the Texas Short-Horned Lizard certainly qualifies for that honor. Please forget I ever mentioned TX lizards and Lieberman in the same sentence.

(Is that enough or should I grovel some more?)

100 posted on 03/06/2003 11:25:41 AM PST by epow
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