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To: EternalVigilance
It's getting harder and harder to hold back the 'broad brush' of hatred for these people who belong to the demonic cult of islame.

This is just the tip of the iceberg. How much MORE remains hidden from our view? How many people can HONESTLY say that their peaceful, gentle, friendly islame neighbors harbor NO rabid 'religious' beliefs?

When these terrs strike again, within America, I certainly hope they are all single. (no family ties here) Because whatever they 'leave behind', will become targets of Americans.

I do NOT see how anyone can say that this is NOT a religious war. Is it that hard to figure out that the wackjobs ARE using their religious beliefs as their 'attack platform'?

9 posted on 03/09/2003 1:20:57 AM PST by mommadooo3
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To: mommadooo3
Indeed.
11 posted on 03/09/2003 1:30:15 AM PST by EternalVigilance (Peace through Strength---Keep Up the Skeer)
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To: mommadooo3
Is Islam a valid religion? At best, IMHO, it is a brain washing cult of madmen.
20 posted on 03/09/2003 3:05:24 AM PST by tkathy
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To: mommadooo3
Not all Muslims are like this. Muslims in these outhouse creepy countries are the victims of these nutcases too. I have a Muslim friend who, as a child, knew of people dragged from their homes, never to be seen again, just for expressing the wrong thought. Our job is to go after the evil.

Here's how I see it. All countries get the same basic mix of people. Some saints, some good, most morally neutral, some bad, and some evil. In this country, the good and sometimes the saintly run things. It's the "you can't fool all the people all the time" thing. It roots out evil. Keeps it at bay. The Hitler wannabes in the USA are pumping gas, or sitting in a prison, or collecting unemployment. They're not leading the country except in their demented dreams. No State approved torture or rape gangs, and very little institutionalized evil. Our basic system tends to support goodness.

In many countries the opposite is true. The biggest thug rules. And evil has earmarks. In those countries, the good, the saintly and the morally neutral still live - but they're not in charge. And they're usually the victims. As time goes by they tend to rationalize the evil around them and become "twisted"... Still victims, but not as easily seen in those terms.

The battle with evil uses the double edged sword of force and love. Without the love, there is nothing.

When these terrs strike again, within America, I certainly hope they are all single. (no family ties here) Because whatever they 'leave behind', will become targets of Americans.

36 posted on 03/09/2003 4:51:16 AM PST by GOPJ
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To: mommadooo3
Not all Muslims are like this. Muslims in these outhouse creepy countries are the victims of these nutcases too. I have a Muslim friend who, as a child, knew of people dragged from their homes, never to be seen again, just for expressing the wrong thought. Our job is to go after the evil.

Here's how I see it. All countries get the same basic mix of people. Some saints, some good, most morally neutral, some bad, and some evil. In this country, the good and sometimes the saintly run things. It's the "you can't fool all the people all the time" thing. It roots out evil. Keeps it at bay. The Hitler wannabes in the USA are pumping gas, or sitting in a prison, or collecting unemployment. They're not leading the country except in their demented dreams. No State approved torture or rape gangs, and very little institutionalized evil. Our basic system tends to support goodness.

In many countries the opposite is true. The biggest thug rules. And evil has earmarks. In those countries, the good, the saintly and the morally neutral still live - but they're not in charge. And they're usually the victims. As time goes by they tend to rationalize the evil around them and become "twisted"... Still victims, but not as easily seen in those terms.

The battle with evil uses the double edged sword of force and love. Without the love, there is nothing.

When these terrs strike again, within America, I certainly hope they are all single. (no family ties here) Because whatever they 'leave behind', will become targets of Americans.

37 posted on 03/09/2003 4:51:17 AM PST by GOPJ
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To: mommadooo3; All
Not all Muslims are like this. Muslims in these outhouse creepy countries are the victims of these nutcases too. I have a Muslim friend who, as a child, knew of people dragged from their homes, never to be seen again, just for expressing the wrong thought. Our job is to go after the evil.

Here's how I see it. All countries get the same basic mix of people. Some saints, some good, most morally neutral, some bad, and some evil. In this country, the good and sometimes the saintly run things. It's the "you can't fool all the people all the time" thing. It roots out evil. Keeps it at bay. The Hitler wannabes in the USA are pumping gas, or sitting in a prison, or collecting unemployment. They're not leading the country except in their demented dreams. No State approved torture or rape gangs, and very little institutionalized evil. Our basic system tends to support goodness.

In many countries the opposite is true. The biggest thug rules. And evil has earmarks. In those countries, the good, the saintly and the morally neutral still live - but they're not in charge. And they're usually the victims. As time goes by they tend to rationalize the evil around them and become "twisted"... Still victims, but not as easily seen in those terms.

The battle with evil uses the double edged sword of force and love. Without the love, there is nothing.

When these terrs strike again, within America, I certainly hope they are all single. (no family ties here) Because whatever they 'leave behind', will become targets of Americans.

38 posted on 03/09/2003 4:51:41 AM PST by GOPJ
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To: mommadooo3
It's a religious war all right. This is the war between darkness and light.

Looking at Genesis, there 2 creations. One a little more expansive than the other. Right off the bat there is light, to seperate the darkness. Meaning all was darkness at first. Since the sun and moon didn't come along til later... this 'light' and 'darkness' to me indicate 'good and evil' or 'right and wrong'. Duality.

Next thing that stands out is obedience. Or more precisely 'dis-obedience'. Adam and Eve are kicked out of the garden.

Now, this is just an observation, and one I noticed several years ago, and that is, that in the 1st creation all animals including and Adam and Eve were told to go forth and multiply. In the 2nd creation, these words are missing.

Now, I suppose one could look at things from a different perspective, but we don't have a whole lot of 'time' involed, to compare data, so it would only be a supposition to say, that had they not partaken of the tree of knowledge, they wouldn't have known of evil, or procreation.

The first creation being 'carnal/flesh', and the second not. What we might consider 'spiritual'?

I, also noticed something else, Adam and Eve's first born is Cain. Second born is Abel. Cain kills Abel. Just as the first creation was carnal/flesh, so too was A&E's first creation 'carnal or bad/evil', committing the first murder, because of 'jealousy'.

Eve partakes of the tree of knowledge because she wanted to be 'better' than what she was? 'Pride'.

Then we get to Abram and Hagar. Hagar becomes prideful when she conceives, eventually giving birth to Ishmael. Later Abram, now called Abraham and Sarah give birth to Isaac. Ishmael's birth is 'carnal/of the flesh', while Isaac's birth was based on 'promise/spiritual'.

God reinforced the separation of the child of 'flesh', from the Spiritual Child/Promise, when Hagar and Ishmael were sent off to wander.

One more thing to contemplate. Ishmael, the branch that gives us the Arabs. The arabs whose religion (Islam) tells its men that they will get 72 virgins in Paradise. A religion wanting to continue the 'carnal/flesh' world in Heaven......

I view the two as 'non-spiritual' and 'Spiritual'.

We ARE in the midst of the war between evil and good, darkness and light. imho
56 posted on 03/09/2003 7:18:25 AM PST by ET(end tyranny) (Heavenly Father, please embrace, and protect, our Pres., our troops and those of our true allies.)
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To: mommadooo3
It's more like a war between Islam and Capitalism/democracy than Islam vs Christianity.

At least that's the 'unspoken war' I see going on.

183 posted on 03/09/2003 3:55:53 PM PST by blue jeans
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To: mommadooo3
I do NOT see how anyone can say that this is NOT a religious war. Is it that hard to figure out that the wackjobs ARE using their religious beliefs as their 'attack platform'?

Has anyone else noted that in the captured Al Queda training footage where masked terrorists are storming a building, that all of the targets are marked with a large criss? You're right: This is all about religion.

Mark

208 posted on 03/09/2003 9:00:36 PM PST by MarkL
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