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GreenPeace Costs Houstonians Thousands in Arrest Costs
Houston Area Texans - A FreeRepublic Network Chapter ^ | Tuesday, March 11, 2003 | Flyer

Posted on 03/11/2003 9:46:47 AM PST by Flyer

GreenPeace Costs Houstonians Thousands

The major media may have a different slant, but when I saw the manpower that it took to arrest the Greenpeace protesters at DOW in Houston today one thing that made my blood boil was how much it was costing Houstonians to arrest these domestic terrorists.

I don't know if I saw all the protesters but there were two chained to a rear gate a three more that had blocked a driveway with a truck and somehow secured their hands inside barrels.

I hope the City of Houston recovers the cost of the operation to arrest these protesters.

These wackos cost Houston thousands!

These wackos cost Houston thousands!

These wackos cost Houston thousands!

These wackos cost Houston thousands!

These wackos cost Houston thousands!


TOPICS: Activism/Chapters; Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: greenpeace; hat; houston; taxes; texas

1 posted on 03/11/2003 9:46:48 AM PST by Flyer
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2 posted on 03/11/2003 9:47:55 AM PST by Flyer (|)(||)(||)(||)(||)(||)(|)
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To: Flyer
Those aren't protesters, Flyer.

They're lawbreakers.

3 posted on 03/11/2003 10:11:02 AM PST by Houmatt (Accept no substitutes.)
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To: Flyer
Don't these people have jobs?
Don't these people ever do anything constructive?
Have any of these people ever done anything to contribute to society?
Has Greenpeace EVER accomplished anything positive as an organization?

Groups like this (especially this one) concern me because they may eventually resort to more violent means to gain attention to themselves.

4 posted on 03/11/2003 10:15:26 AM PST by SaveTheChief
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To: Flyer
I drove by these clowns this morning. I was more amused than irritated.

I think they should be given about a million hours of community service to keep them busy and out of trouble.

5 posted on 03/11/2003 10:20:25 AM PST by hopespringseternal
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To: SaveTheChief
Don't these people have jobs?

No, but they have money. . . matching printed coveralls, rented truck, a "coordinator" on the scene (she gave them all hugs before they were hauled off to jail).

6 posted on 03/11/2003 10:20:26 AM PST by Flyer (|)(||)(||)(||)(||)(||)(|)
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To: hopespringseternal
I was more amused than irritated

It is amusing but so many police and firemen were tied up there for no good reason.

7 posted on 03/11/2003 10:22:48 AM PST by Flyer (|)(||)(||)(||)(||)(||)(|)
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To: Flyer
No, but they have money. . . matching printed coveralls, rented truck, a "coordinator" on the scene (she gave them all hugs before they were hauled off to jail).

I assume they are funded through private contributions, right? Is there any way we can learn who funds these kinds of activities?

8 posted on 03/11/2003 10:26:22 AM PST by SaveTheChief
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To: Flyer
Something about those pictures makes me want to buy a longer jumper-cable!
9 posted on 03/11/2003 10:29:20 AM PST by humblegunner (GreenPeece ZOT!!!)
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To: Flyer
It would be interesting if local governments started suing these groups to recover the money spent arresting them. After all, a lot of places charge perps for the cost to the community of jailing them, why not for other costs, like the extra police.
10 posted on 03/11/2003 11:16:06 AM PST by Kenton
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To: SaveTheChief
No.

No.

No.

No.

If they get in my way during commutes, I am seriously thinking about running them over. I have insurance.
11 posted on 03/11/2003 11:33:32 AM PST by PetroniDE (Zimmerman Telegram (1917) - Pearl Harbor (1941) - WTC (2001) - NEVER AGAIN...)
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To: Flyer
Dow didn't own Union Carbide when the Bhopal explosion occured.
12 posted on 03/11/2003 12:08:51 PM PST by Liberal Classic (Quemadmoeum gladis nemeinum occidit, occidentis telum est.)
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To: Flyer; Houmatt; SaveTheChief; hopespringseternal; humblegunner
The only way that we will ever stop those idiots, is to not only prosecute the individual offenders, but to go after their support organization, as well.

If a lowly DOW employee should violate DOW policy and in the process, violate some law, it is DOW that pays the fine, not the employee.  Granted, the employee might lose his job.  But, the fine is paid by DOW.

Why then, does the law only go after the individual protesters, when in most cases, a direct line of motivation, method and intent (otherwise known as "conspiracy") can be drawn directly back to some left wing organization, with a healthy bank account and said organization is training the individuals in how break the law in a way that will not send them to jail for more than a day, providing attorneys and paying the relatively small fines of the individuals?  Such actions are clearly conspiracy.

I have no problem with ignorant liberals, who want to get out and strut their ignorance once in a while, as long as they don't break the law.  But, when they are a part of an organized conspiracy, led by a well heeled organization, that encourages, trains and funds the individual conspirators and whose management is trying to shield their complicity behind the individuals involved, the law should go after the organization, in the same way that they go after corporations and organized crime bosses and with the same type of multimillion dollar fines that are routinely levied against corporations.  And since, in most cases, prosecutors should be able to follow the line of guidance directly back to the source and prove conspiracy, they should then go after, not only the individual law-breakers at the protest site, but the eco-pimps at the top of the organization, on criminal charges, as well.

When the eco-pimps with the big salaries start going to jail and the individuals who committed the actual criminal acts have to spend months in jail on felony conspiracy charges, instead of spending a night in jail on a misdemeanor, this kind of stuff will end.  But, until that happens, the taxpayers will just continue to pay the price for the inaction of our prosecutors and lawmakers, in not going after the eco-pimps at the top.

 

13 posted on 03/11/2003 1:34:56 PM PST by Action-America (France, Germany & Russia are irrelevant has-beens, who are just pouting at that realization.)
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To: Flyer
This shouldn't have cost that much. A handful of tranqs, set of bolt cutters and a hack saw should have been all it took. ;)
14 posted on 03/11/2003 2:48:52 PM PST by Bacon Man (Bacon: Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, baconny.)
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To: Action-America
but to go after their support organization, as well.

Yep. Who has contacts at the DA's office?

15 posted on 03/11/2003 2:50:46 PM PST by Flyer (|)(||)(||)(||)(||)(||)(|)
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To: Bacon Man
A handful of tranqs, set of bolt cutters and a hack saw

I wanted to go shake the fence and leave 'em dangling by their chains.

16 posted on 03/11/2003 2:52:44 PM PST by Flyer (|)(||)(||)(||)(||)(||)(|)
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To: Flyer
I wanted to go shake the fence and leave 'em dangling by their chains.

Add to that a lawn chair, a six pack and a garden hose and you've got a whole afternoon's worth of entertainment.

17 posted on 03/11/2003 3:12:28 PM PST by Bacon Man (Bacon: Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, baconny.)
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To: Action-America
Was this woman arrested?? She seemed to in charge of the operation.

Leader

18 posted on 03/11/2003 3:16:40 PM PST by Flyer (|)(||)(||)(||)(||)(||)(|)
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To: Flyer
That's where I used to work for six years until January and it's right down the street from where I live. I drove right though all of that this morning on my way home from an interview. I spoke to friends in the building who couldn't leave because the building was on lockdown, at least as of 2:30 this afternoon. Cars were parked all the way back into the subdivision behind Dow on both sides of the street because people who arrived after 7:30 couldn't drive in. I saw tons of police and TV news crews and there was that stupid yellow drum that said "Bhopal Toxins" right by the back gate where two cops where standing. I think Greenpeace is jealous of all the attention ANSWER has been getting.
19 posted on 03/11/2003 3:21:45 PM PST by Allegra (If Liberals are Left and Conservatives are Right, We Can't Be Wrong!)
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To: Bacon Man; Flyer
I see it like this:

FR "So.. Y'all are chained up to the fence, huh?"
GP "Yeah, that's right, we're activists! (sniff)"
FR "You chained yourself to that fence???
GP "That's right, buddy, we're changing the world! (sniff)"
FR "Is that Y'alls fence?"
GP "It belongs to the big polluter, man.. the planet killers! (sniff)"
FR "Yep, I thought so. (Over shoulder) Hey, Y'all pull the SUV over here and pop the hood.. Grab those jumper-cables, I want to see something here...

20 posted on 03/11/2003 3:24:31 PM PST by humblegunner
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To: Flyer
No, but they have money. . . matching printed coveralls, rented truck, a "coordinator" on the scene (she gave them all hugs before they were hauled off to jail).

Oh, and a friend of mine who still works at Dow told me an announcement went out to everyone in the building to start assessing man-hours lost due to this Greenpeace crap so that cost can be determined. Dow is in such financial straits that they even stopped providing coffee for employees at the beginning of the year...I have a feeling they're going to go after Greenpeace for some bucks. I sure hope so.

21 posted on 03/11/2003 3:25:40 PM PST by Allegra (If Liberals are Left and Conservatives are Right, We Can't Be Wrong!)
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To: humblegunner
Hey, Y'all pull the SUV over here

Yeah, if I could have talked DOW and HPD to turn off their video camers for just a few minutes. . .

22 posted on 03/11/2003 3:27:24 PM PST by Flyer (|)(||)(||)(||)(||)(||)(|)
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To: Allegra
...I have a feeling they're going to go after Greenpeace for some bucks. I sure hope so.

I hope the City does, too. This was such a waste of OUR money.

23 posted on 03/11/2003 3:28:20 PM PST by Flyer (|)(||)(||)(||)(||)(||)(|)
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To: Flyer
Yeah, if I could have talked DOW and HPD to turn off their video cameras for just a few minutes. . .

You would just have been exercising your right to free speech,
making a statement for "More power to American industry!"

24 posted on 03/11/2003 3:36:39 PM PST by humblegunner
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To: humblegunner; Flyer
I see it like this:

FR "So.. Y'all are chained up to the fence, huh?"
GP "Yeah, that's right, we're activists! (sniff)"
FR "You chained yourself to that fence???
GP "That's right, buddy, we're changing the world! (sniff)"
FR "Is that Y'alls fence?"
GP "It belongs to the big polluter, man.. the planet killers! (sniff)"
FR "Yep, I thought so. (Over shoulder) Hey, Y'all pull the SUV over here and pop the hood.. Grab those jumper-cables, I want to see something here...

I like the way you think. :)

25 posted on 03/12/2003 7:38:31 AM PST by Bacon Man (Bacon: Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, baconny.)
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To: Bacon Man; bobbyd; dix; Eaker; humblegunner; Humidston; PetroniDE; RikaStrom; Xenalyte

In an exchange at IndyMedia someone asked if I would pose a question on this thread. To keep things in context I include the four relevant posts. My posts are in red. The question is in the last post in bold blue. For doing this favor for Shannon I get double politeness points.

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My money
by Jim Tuesday March 11, 2003 at 03:44 PM

I am urging the City of Houston to recover from Greenpeace the cost associated with this event.

Greenpeace - you want to protest, fine, but don't take money out of MY pocket to promote your cause.

about jim
by collateral info Wednesday March 12, 2003 at 08:19 AM

jim is pretty polite here, but check this thread on the freepers website, plus jim's photos
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/862213/posts?page=1

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More about Jim
by Jim Wednesday March 12, 2003 at 09:41 AM

"jim is pretty polite here"

I am a guest here. Of course I am polite.

I read the thread on Jim's link to the focus group.
There was alot of aggression including one guy who wouldn't hesitate to run over them since he has insurance. This kind of attitude is a typical upper-class "american" one. Kill them, I'm safe.
The thread is very disturbing.
Everyone seems upset about inconvenience and losing money. Obviously none of them have actually lived in a 'third world country" or a country where the US has been terrorizing.
How many of you are worried about the billions and billions of dollars its gonna cost to go to war on Iraq??? Who's grumbling about that????
Jim could you post that to the focus group, I don't want to have to sign in to post up...


26 posted on 03/12/2003 2:30:54 PM PST by Flyer (|)(||)(||)(||)(||)(||)(|)
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To: Flyer
Shannon-

Everyone seems upset about inconvenience and losing money.

It's more than the money, it involves law enforcement resources.
Imagine if while the Police were tied up with that foolishness, your mother down the block were beaten and robbed, maybe killed. Further, ALL of us pay the taxes that support law enforcement, and I for one prefer the LEO's to focus on crime, not ineffective juvenile silliness like Greenpeace wanna-be protesters chained to a gate.

Obviously none of them have actually lived in a 'third world country" or a country where the US has been terrorizing.

Name one. Provide a creditable source.

How many of you are worried about the billions and billions of dollars its gonna cost to go to war on Iraq???

National Defense has it's own budget, and is being correctly allocated in defense of our country. As an added bonus, we will liberate the oppresed citizens of Iraq who will be more than overjoyed to see Saddam toppled and expelled.
I hope this clarifies things a bit.

27 posted on 03/12/2003 2:57:44 PM PST by humblegunner
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To: Flyer
If they get in my way during commutes, I am seriously thinking about running them over. I have insurance. This is from post #11

Hey Shannon: Read the message. It stated that I would SERIOUSLY THINK ABOUT, not "Wouldn't Hestitate". Can't you socialists read? Don't twist my words.

Jim: Don't bother to post my reply to the IndyMedia forum; to parody a former pro football player, they couldn't spell cat if you spotted them the "c" and "a".

28 posted on 03/12/2003 5:24:37 PM PST by PetroniDE (Zimmerman Telegram (1917) - Pearl Harbor (1941) - WTC (2001) - NEVER AGAIN...)
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To: Flyer
While looking at the pics above, two words come to mind... TARGET PRACTICE.
29 posted on 03/12/2003 9:44:35 PM PST by Humidston (Do not remove this tag under penalty of law)
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