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NBC News: Regular Army in No. Iraq Already Beginning to Surrender; Little Food, Equipment Broken
NBC News | March 16, 2003 | Fred Francis

Posted on 03/16/2003 3:57:05 PM PST by Timesink

Fred Francis reporting live as I type this from Iraq's Northern Front.

Many members of the Iraqi regular army are already coming across to surrender. They report no food. Morale near zero. Everyone from the highest commanders to the lowest privates that remain are openly discussing plans to surrender en masse the moment war starts.

One commander says he has 27 tanks; only 6 work.

Francis reports that US forces expect near-ZERO military response from Iraqi forces, except from the Republican Guard around Baghdad itself. The reason: They actually think they WON in 1991 because we didn't go after them. (Even though that was by UN fiat, not a military decision.) They will fight, unless they've been shocked and awed, heh heh heh.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: embeddedreport; fredfrancis; iraqissurrender; msdnc; msnbc; nbcnews
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1 posted on 03/16/2003 3:57:06 PM PST by Timesink
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To: Timesink
Saddle up!
2 posted on 03/16/2003 3:58:44 PM PST by mhking (Red Alert! Shields Up! Lock phasers and quantum torpedoes on Baghdad!)
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To: Timesink
Is this story the latest or the same story from last week? If it's last week's story, I heard it was a false report. Hmmm?
3 posted on 03/16/2003 4:00:15 PM PST by RoseofTexas
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To: Timesink
I pray for our troops!
4 posted on 03/16/2003 4:00:34 PM PST by tutstar
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To: Timesink
One commander says he has 27 tanks; only 6 work.

Gee, didn't the French send replacement parts for the tanks, too? They're slipping.

5 posted on 03/16/2003 4:00:55 PM PST by BlessedBeGod
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To: Timesink
I have a feeling I'm going to be getting very little sleep this week. As luck would have it, I have a business convention next week in Orlando - I sure hope my hotel has FoxNews or I'm going to be majorly bummed out.
6 posted on 03/16/2003 4:01:02 PM PST by SamAdams76
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To: Timesink
This and the reports that a top ranking Kurdish ally of Saddam surrending leaves little hope for Saddam and anyone willing to tough it out. I always hoped that there would be low casualties if we did have to go in and these reports prove that there will be low resitance and our troops will have the area cleared in no time. Could this end up being easier then ousting the Talibums?

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7 posted on 03/16/2003 4:01:08 PM PST by Mixer
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To: mhking
Shields up Mr Worf..
8 posted on 03/16/2003 4:02:07 PM PST by Dog ( Groundhog Day II -- the Sequel.....America held hostage by the UN.......where everyday is the same)
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To: mhking
Aw, Christ on a chiclet! Christiane Amanpour is on "60 Minutes" kissing Chirac's ass. AND we gotta watch Bill Clinton! Auugh!
9 posted on 03/16/2003 4:02:19 PM PST by Timesink (Hi, Billy Mays here for new MOAB! It'll wipe your worst stains right off the face of the planet!)
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To: Timesink
These Iraqi soldiers are the smart ones. They will be treated fairly. I hope they ALL surrender. Why should they be killed to protect a madman!?
10 posted on 03/16/2003 4:02:21 PM PST by teletech (Can we bomb Saddam, NOW!?)
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To: Mixer
Francis also said Saddam has Execution Squads lined up behind their troops to shoot anybody who tries to retreat or surrender.
11 posted on 03/16/2003 4:02:23 PM PST by Steven W.
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To: Timesink
Everyone from the highest commanders to the lowest privates that remain are openly discussing plans to surrender en masse the moment war starts.

I see the French have influenced the Iraqis to stand alongside their strategic posture.

12 posted on 03/16/2003 4:02:52 PM PST by Cvengr
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To: Mixer
All hype goin on here. This war has taken forever to get to and will be done in as little as 10 days.
13 posted on 03/16/2003 4:02:54 PM PST by My Favorite Headache (Which one will lose? Depends on what I choose or maybe which voice...I ignore.)
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To: RoseofTexas
Is this story the latest or the same story from last week? If it's last week's story, I heard it was a false report. Hmmm?

Fred Francis reporting live as I type this from Iraq's Northern Front.

That is how Timesink started this thread.

14 posted on 03/16/2003 4:03:18 PM PST by Mixer
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To: Timesink
Aw, Christ on a chiclet! Christiane Amanpour is on "60 Minutes" kissing Chirac's ass. AND we gotta watch Bill Clinton! Auugh!

Nope - there's a "Simpsons" rerun on Fox.

15 posted on 03/16/2003 4:03:27 PM PST by mhking (Red Alert! Shields Up! Lock phasers and quantum torpedoes on Baghdad!)
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To: Timesink
One commander says he has 27 tanks; only 6 work.

No wonder Iraqi Army morale is low. To sit in an Iraqi tank is an invitation to be fried alive.

16 posted on 03/16/2003 4:04:06 PM PST by PJ-Comix (A Person With No Sense Of Humor Is Someone Who Confuses The Irreverent With The Irrelevant)
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To: RoseofTexas
Is this story the latest or the same story from last week? If it's last week's story, I heard it was a false report. Hmmm?

He was reporting live, and said he was reporting based on direct interviews with defecters. Of course, it's always your own call whether to trust the press or not, but I personally have never considered Fred Francis to be unreliable or overtly biased.

17 posted on 03/16/2003 4:04:12 PM PST by Timesink (Hi, Billy Mays here for new MOAB! It'll wipe your worst stains right off the face of the planet!)
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To: Timesink
This is going to make things much more dangerous,
18 posted on 03/16/2003 4:04:27 PM PST by VRWC_minion (Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and most are right)
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To: Timesink
"Many members of the Iraqi regular army are already coming across to surrender"

Maybe they did learn something from the French.

19 posted on 03/16/2003 4:05:29 PM PST by sweetliberty ("To have a right to do a thing is not at all the same as to be right in doing it.")
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To: SamAdams76
I have a feeling I'm going to be getting very little sleep this week. As luck would have it, I have a business convention next week in Orlando - I sure hope my hotel has FoxNews or I'm going to be majorly bummed out.

You mean you didn't use the mighty Fox News Hotel Finder?

20 posted on 03/16/2003 4:06:13 PM PST by Timesink (Hi, Billy Mays here for new MOAB! It'll wipe your worst stains right off the face of the planet!)
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To: Timesink
This is a report from Turkey? Iraqis are going there to surrender? Or, where exactly might the "northern front" be?

It's probably true that most Iraqis can hardly wait to give up, but these prewar surrenders could also be attempt to decrease adrenaline in US troops.
21 posted on 03/16/2003 4:07:21 PM PST by PoisedWoman (Fed up with the liberal media)
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To: Dog

Work the problem.

22 posted on 03/16/2003 4:07:24 PM PST by bonesmccoy (Defeat the terrorists... Vaccinate!)
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To: Steven W.
Francis also said Saddam has Execution Squads lined up behind their troops to shoot anybody who tries to retreat or surrender.

They'll throw down their weapons too, when they see a sky full of attack helicopters.

23 posted on 03/16/2003 4:07:24 PM PST by JoeSchem
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To: Timesink
Christiane's a phony anyway....that's not even her real name! Maybe if she used her real name it might detract from her phony sincerity.
24 posted on 03/16/2003 4:07:29 PM PST by POGIFFMOO
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To: mhking
Oh vomit. Chirac just said "The relationsheep between Fraaance and dee yew-esss ees one of LOVE!" Puke puke puke.
25 posted on 03/16/2003 4:07:55 PM PST by Timesink (Hi, Billy Mays here for new MOAB! It'll wipe your worst stains right off the face of the planet!)
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To: Timesink
I think a lot of Iraqi regulars are ready to 'surrender'. They are probably good people put in difficult positions. Serve or be executed.

The Republican Guards will be our only challenge - except for burning oil wells and chemical weapons (that they of course don't have), and other Saddam trickery. We're ready. Let's roll.
26 posted on 03/16/2003 4:08:53 PM PST by bart99
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To: Timesink
Can't be true. See...

Saddam: We'll Fight US Anywhere in the World

They're trying to lull us into a false sense of security.

27 posted on 03/16/2003 4:09:36 PM PST by michigander
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To: Timesink
OK, I turned it from Fox to 60 minutes. Which one is Chirac? hehehe
28 posted on 03/16/2003 4:09:40 PM PST by Endeavor
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To: Timesink; SamAdams76
Yes!! Don't stay at a hotel that doesn't have FOX News. Check out their site to be sure before you even make a reservation.
29 posted on 03/16/2003 4:10:10 PM PST by MaeWest (Reporting from behind west coast enemy lines.)
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To: Mixer
Much easier than Afhany Talibans. 1 week max in Bagdad if no surrender. I give Saddam 36 hours to call it quits..
30 posted on 03/16/2003 4:10:43 PM PST by chiller (could be wrong, but doubt it)
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To: POGIFFMOO
What is Christianes real name?
31 posted on 03/16/2003 4:10:54 PM PST by andrew1957
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To: SamAdams76
Hey sam.....

Check out the Fox news website. They have a Hotel Guide that tells what hotels have Fox News.

I wouldn't go anywhere next week without an internet connection and Fox News.

happy trails...

32 posted on 03/16/2003 4:11:46 PM PST by bert (Don't Panic !)
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To: PoisedWoman
This is a report from Turkey? Iraqis are going there to surrender? Or, where exactly might the "northern front" be?

The Chyron specifically said Francis was in Northern Iraq. I'm guessing it's the Kurd-controlled territory that has pretty much been a country unto itself ever since the Gulf War. Saddam has no control over it.

33 posted on 03/16/2003 4:11:48 PM PST by Timesink (Hi, Billy Mays here for new MOAB! It'll wipe your worst stains right off the face of the planet!)
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To: SamAdams76
Sam, did you check Fox News Hotel Finder on their website?
34 posted on 03/16/2003 4:11:56 PM PST by Inspectorette
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To: Timesink
I just heard that the forces are telling the Iraqi troops to go back because the war hasn't started yet!
35 posted on 03/16/2003 4:12:09 PM PST by Patriot1998
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To: chiller
I am NOT in the mood for another "Mother of all surrenders". How boring.
36 posted on 03/16/2003 4:12:18 PM PST by POGIFFMOO
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To: Timesink
Saddam has pulled 120,000 troops around Baghdad in 3 rings, looks like he is giving the rest of the country up.
37 posted on 03/16/2003 4:12:23 PM PST by ewing
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To: bart99
I feel sorry for some of these soldiers. They just want to live to see the regime change too.
38 posted on 03/16/2003 4:13:21 PM PST by arichtaxpayer (Let's get on with the show!)
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To: mhking
That's the beauty of having kids. We're watching Disney DVDs till they go to bed. (Currently on 'Fantasia 2000') Those were after watching my beloved UofK Wildcats win their 23rd straight game and the SEC championship.
39 posted on 03/16/2003 4:13:28 PM PST by Severa (Wife of Freeper Hostel, USN Active Duty Submariner)
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To: Timesink
Chirac said what???
40 posted on 03/16/2003 4:13:43 PM PST by Dog ( Shields Up!!!!! Mister Worf, lock on phasers and photon torpedos! .......FIRE!!!!!!!!)
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To: Inspectorette
Ha - guess I should have read all the way through the thread ;-)
41 posted on 03/16/2003 4:13:53 PM PST by Inspectorette
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To: BlessedBeGod
"One commander says he has 27 tanks; only 6 work.
Gee, didn't the French send replacement parts for the tanks, too? They're slipping.
"

Those ARE the new ones....

42 posted on 03/16/2003 4:14:21 PM PST by RS
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To: POGIFFMOO
Christiane's a phony anyway....that's not even her real name! Maybe if she used her real name it might detract from her phony sincerity.

Actually, I have to give her a little credit; she's asking precisely the questions we'd want to ask him. He's being a weasel in the responses, but she's not kissing his butt like I thought she would.

43 posted on 03/16/2003 4:14:40 PM PST by Timesink (Hi, Billy Mays here for new MOAB! It'll wipe your worst stains right off the face of the planet!)
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To: andrew1957
Christiane Amanpour's real name is Nicole Johnston. Relayed to me by a rug merchant who learned it from her cameraman while on a return trip from Afghanistan. Said she jealously guards it since one of her parents (her father) is American.
44 posted on 03/16/2003 4:15:42 PM PST by POGIFFMOO
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To: Timesink
ROFL.

At least the Iraqis, unlike the French, had the common decency to wait until the eve of war before surrendering.
45 posted on 03/16/2003 4:17:25 PM PST by FreeTheHostages
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To: Timesink
This is all well and good, but its what happens with the WMDs and the missiles that is the key to this war, not what happens to a couple of front line miscreants who can't get a tank started. Its the WMDs and the missiles that can really hurt us.
46 posted on 03/16/2003 4:17:41 PM PST by oceanview
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To: Timesink
Chritiane's not as bad as that ex-palestinian spokesperson lady that's now an msnbc analyst. Every time there's a disucission about Iraq, she always STILL brings the palestinians plight into play. I forget her name.
47 posted on 03/16/2003 4:18:06 PM PST by bart99
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To: andrew1957
Looks like a Frank to me.
48 posted on 03/16/2003 4:18:42 PM PST by noutopia
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To: Timesink
Chirac just said "The relationsheep between Fraaance and dee yew-esss ees one of LOVE!"

Yes, Jacques, Uncle Zahm love tew geeve yew a wehdJee.

49 posted on 03/16/2003 4:18:45 PM PST by FredZarguna
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To: POGIFFMOO
I am NOT in the mood for another "Mother of all surrenders". How boring.

Hey, don't forget, even in '91 we had a good two solid weeks of massive air bombardments before the ground war even started. We'll have some fun no matter what.

50 posted on 03/16/2003 4:18:53 PM PST by Timesink (Hi, Billy Mays here for new MOAB! It'll wipe your worst stains right off the face of the planet!)
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