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Leftwing "Peace" Saboteurs, Anarchists go Shopping
www.frontpagemag.org ^ | March 17, 2003 | Brian Sayre

Posted on 03/17/2003 7:49:18 AM PST by longtermmemmory

Leftwing "Peace" Saboteurs By Brian Sayre FrontPageMagazine.com | March 17, 2003

"We have to prepare to continue the struggle," cried Richard Becker, a member of both the steering committee for International A.N.S.W.E.R. and the communist Workers' World Party. Although the A.N.S.W.E.R.-organized crowd at the March 15th rally in San Francisco was smaller than in previous demonstrations, the cries from the podium were much sharper. Becker called for direct action, civil disobedience all over the city, should the United States begin a war with Iraq. But the anti-war demonstrators hadn't waited for Becker. Plans for direct action on the day of the war have been in place for weeks.

According to websites used for radical organizing, large-scale attempts to disrupt everyday life are planned in at least four cities. In New York, demonstrators plan to "inaugurate a campaign of civil resistance." In Washington, D.C., there will be "direct action oriented, unpermitted demonstrations." In Los Angeles, the call has gone out for "a creative rampage." And in San Francisco; participants are being told to plan to stay out all night, and continue their actions the next day (source: sf.indymedia.org) Should a war begin abroad, Americans can expect trouble at home.

I received a taste of that trouble on March 15th, when I attended the protest in San Francisco, and witnessed the 'civil disobedience' afterwards. Not that the disobedience was particularly civil. Over a thousand people set off on an unpermitted march after the main event, blocking off traffic during rush hour and defying police orders to disperse. Even after arrests were made, the remnant of the crowd would simply retreat, reform, and continue elsewhere. The disorder only ended after over one hundred and fifty people were arrested and detained, some six hours after the original demonstration began.

At the latest string of anti-war protests, it's hard to decide what to cover. Anti-Semitism abounds (note to protestors - 'Israel' is not spelled with a swastika; and the swastika is not equivalent to the Star of David). Everyone's got a different conspiracy theory (one large banner read: "9-11 = Inside Job / U.S. Fascists Guilty"). And the aisles are lined with over a dozen communist groups, selling their propaganda (if I can figure out the difference between the Maoist Internationalist Movement and the Progressive Labor Party, I'll tell you which group was desecrating the flag). But I came for the anarchists, the "No War But The Class War" contingent, who had put out a call for a black bloc - an organizing tactic that had led to arrests and property damage in the recent past, an organizing tactic that enabled the riots at the Seattle WTO protest in 1999.

Articles about the 'black bloc' often give the impression that the black bloc is some sort of organization. However, it is actually a protest tactic. When a batch of anarchists and anarchist 'affinity groups' all dress similarly at a protest - typically, in black, with faces covered - this is a black bloc. A black bloc enables anonymous action at protest events, which allows participants to get away with crimes that would normally lead to arrest. This anecdote is instructive. At a January anti-war protest in San Francisco, a black bloc participant attempted to smash a lingerie store window with a newspaper box. Police tried to arrest him, but by quickly mingling with other black bloc members he managed to elude capture. The reasoning behind the choice of target remains obscure - perhaps he wanted to 'make love, not war'. However, the threat of this anonymity to order is clear.

Black blocs began to be used in America in the 1980s, and caught on in popularity after the WTO riots, when protestors took advantage of them to indulge in what one website called "anarchist shopping" - you and I would call it looting. The presence of black blocs in today's opposition to the war on Iraq is disturbing, when you consider what their anarchist participants stand for. While they often play lip service to 'non-violent civil disobedience', this is code, dependent on a particular anarchist understanding of non-violence. As the infamous communiqué from the Seattle rioters contended, "property destruction is not a violent activity unless it destroys lives or causes pain in the process. By this definition, private property--especially corporate private property--is itself infinitely more violent than any action taken against it." Therefore, when a member of the black bloc calls for 'non-violent direct action', this does not bar property damage in any way whatsoever. He feels perfectly entitled to chuck a non-violent brick through the window of your violent storefront; to bring peace with a bat to your belligerent parked car.

The participants seem to have no respect for the rule of law. Also from the 1999 Seattle riots came the document "A Special Message to the Police", which told police officers that "[a] new protesting ethic is sweeping through North America. We prefer to use nonviolent direct action, but don't be surprised if some of our comrades get a bit more destructive. [.] Our philosophy is that the best cop is an ex-cop. If you are concerned about your safety, and if you are really interested in helping out your community, we suggest that you find a different line of work."

This Saturday in San Francisco, the 'class war' contingent was out in large numbers, keeping to the back of the rally at their pre-announced mobilization point. Besides the 'No War But The Class War' banner, they also favored one that read "We Support Our Troops When They Shoot Their Officers." This is more 'support' than their New York counterparts, who wrote the following message to soldiers:

"Considering the common practice of talking about "supporting the troops" in times of hostilities, I should let you know how I feel. With all due respect, I want you to know that if you participate in this conflict, you are not serving me, and I don't support you."

The black bloc at the March 15th protest was well-organized. While little happened until the march itself was underway, once the permitted march began a black bloc member appeared with a large box. From it, he began distributing bundles of small paper slips to other black bloc anarchists. These anarchists in turn passed the slips to other anarchists, making sure to give them not to the normal-looking people at the protest. However, there were plenty of slips, and soon people were passing them out indiscriminately. "Unpermitted march," they read, and gave a time and staging location, adjacent to the main rally. While waiting, the black bloc distributed pamphlets on the nature of the black bloc, why they were protesting, and tips to protect yourself from police. People wrote the numbers of the group's legal team on their bodies in permanent marker; masks were donned; affinity groups were organized.

No one from International ANSWER, the main organizers, did anything to stop or discourage this illegal breakaway march from taking place. Earlier in the morning, I'd overheard an ANSWER organizer, a middle-aged blonde, instruct a group of about twenty field marshals. She'd told her marshals that "if some one really wants to go [on a breakaway march], let them go - it's the main march we're worried about. If there's a breakaway march, let them go." Not surprising, since in that same rally International ANSWER would formally commit itself to civil disobedience the day the war begins. So, when the black bloc took to the streets, followed by a large number of miscellaneous militants and curious gawkers, there was no one to confront them but the San Francisco Police Department.

For the next three hours, the San Francisco Police Department was a model of professionalism. Keeping in mind the rowdy protestors' penchant for property damage, they lined the streets and kept pace with the crowd. Although the crowd was easily a thousand people, the police were present in large numbers and deterred them from smashing windows. The unplanned march blocked downtown traffic and delayed commuters; cars enveloped by the march honked their horns in 'support.' When you're surrounded by hooligans, their favorite team is your favorite team.

The police were eventually able to corral the crowd in San Francisco's Mission District, clearing them to the sidewalk. A captain ordered the crowd to disperse; those refusing to leave the street, about twenty in all, were arrested. However, several hundred were not cowed, and set off on a march to the city's shopping district, half on the sidewalk, half on the streets. Stores quickly closed and locked their doors; again, the police effectively removed people from the street and encircled them. A break-out attempt was made, with people suddenly sprinting away - but the quick thinking and fast action of the motorcycle cops encircled the march once again, near the corner of Market and 3rd. Over two hours into the breakaway march, after repeated orders and opportunities to disperse without consequence, after two hours of patiently babysitting the crowd, the police decided to act, no doubt realizing that the cat and mouse game they were playing could go on all night, if they let it. A large number of protestors were surrounded on all sides by riot police; one by one, over a hundred of them, they were arrested and taken to San Francisco's Hall of Justice.

Thanks to the police, the damage done by the breakaway march was minimal. Instead of shutting down the city, the crowd ended up blocking access to a sub shop and a liquor store. However, the protestors put us all in tremendous danger. Containing a black bloc requires an enormous use of police resources; for at least three hours, the bulk of the San Francisco Police Department was tied up babysitting, when they have much more important things to do. Unfortunately, America has changed since the last wave of rowdy street protests, a generation ago. The mass murder of 9/11 taught us something - that we are vulnerable on our own soil, and we have enemies who wish to destroy us. For three hours, the black bloc kept the police, our last line of defense, from keeping an eye out for our enemies. For three hours, San Franciscans were subjected to a heightened risk of terrorist attack.

This increased risk might seem minor, but it will be far greater in the weeks ahead, as the war with Iraq begins. Terrorists have already threatened to use the war as a pretext to attack us - not that they needed a pretext a year-and-a-half ago. On the first days of the campaign, we will all need to be extra vigilant at home, especially the police. But in San Francisco, Los Angeles, New York, and Washington, where the black bloc is coming, there will be a lot fewer police to watch for terrorists. The police will be busy keeping black-clad young men from smashing café windows; busy hauling the dupes of International A.N.S.W.E.R. out of the roadways, busy ensuring that ordinary Americans can get to their jobs and provide for their families.

I have every confidence that the police of America will complete this noble task with professionalism and skill, but this is work they shouldn't have to be doing. Yet I fear they will do it again and again and again. Polls tell us that the anti-war protestors have resoundingly lost in the marketplace of ideas - the largely majority of Americans prefer security to appeasement, liberation to dictators. A recent FOX News poll found only one in five Americans against the war.

But these radicals refuse to accept the will of the majority - their 'direct action' is nothing more than an attempt to impose their agenda on the rest of us through intimidation and violence. And as soon as the police release them, they come right back to the protests. The crimes they are arrested for - unlawful assembly, refusal to disperse, obstruction of a roadway - are usually treated as misdemeanors, and the protestors are released as soon as police processing is completed, free to resume their illegal acts. A person committed to the overthrow of the government has no fear of a misdemeanor charge. For the protection of Americans, sentencing for the police-distracting crimes of 'civil disobedience' needs to be much more strict in times of increased terrorist threat.

If this were simply a matter of speech, Americans would both tolerate and protect it. More than a dozen different communist groups at Saturday's main rally were free to hawk their newspapers to whoever wanted to buy, as is their right. But through their direct action and black bloc tactics, anarchists and their radical brethren cross from speaking to acting - and while there is a right to free speech, there is no right to free action. The police of this nation will do their jobs, but prosecutors, legislators, and the American public have to team up to ensure they don't have to do their jobs over again, and again, and again, as long as the threat of terrorism exists. The plans have been laid; the black blocs are coming. Let's ensure that they only come once.


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I found this interesting. Did this happen in any other anti-war protests? (ironic that the so-called peace marchers use the same tactices as the kkk)
1 posted on 03/17/2003 7:49:18 AM PST by longtermmemmory
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To: longtermmemmory
Locator ^
2 posted on 03/17/2003 7:53:03 AM PST by backhoe (North Korean Nukes, Hamas, OBL, 9-11... that was some "legacy" Clinton left us...)
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To: longtermmemmory
Communists are anything but 'peaceful'. Yeah, sure they go by the title of 'socialists' and 'Liberals', but in reality these people not only use the tactics as the Klan, but of their masters, Karl Marx and Josef Stalin.

-Regards, T.
3 posted on 03/17/2003 7:57:08 AM PST by T Lady (.Freed From the Dimocratic Shackles since 1992)
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To: longtermmemmory
"The crimes they are arrested for - unlawful assembly, refusal to disperse, obstruction of a roadway - are usually treated as misdemeanors, and the protestors are released as soon as police processing is completed, free to resume their illegal acts."

I have very little sympathy for the cops and the city administrations. If they were to start handing out 5 year sentences this BS would end pronto. They want to make nice nice with the protestors (most city mayors where these protests have taken place literally provide board and shelter for the protestors for example) the cops love the overtime and everyone thinks this is all a game. Disgusting all of them.

4 posted on 03/17/2003 8:00:18 AM PST by KantianBurke (The Federal govt should be protecting us from terrorists, not handing out goodies)
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To: longtermmemmory
If these guys block your street, just accelerate.

The smart ones will get out of your way.

5 posted on 03/17/2003 8:01:06 AM PST by wideawake (You'd better look out for me - I'm a member of the F.V.K.)
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To: longtermmemmory
There is a bunch of hoodlums in body bags laying in the middle of Market Street in downtown SF at this moment.
6 posted on 03/17/2003 8:01:58 AM PST by GSWarrior
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To: KantianBurke
Good points.

Watch what the police do if any merchant tries to use his God-given right to defend his property from looters.

7 posted on 03/17/2003 8:02:23 AM PST by wideawake (You'd better look out for me - I'm a member of the F.V.K.)
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To: GSWarrior
What they need is This!
8 posted on 03/17/2003 8:02:49 AM PST by hobbes1
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To: GSWarrior
Hopefully they'll all come prepackaged from now on.
9 posted on 03/17/2003 8:03:10 AM PST by wideawake (You'd better look out for me - I'm a member of the F.V.K.)
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To: longtermmemmory
I was there at SF March 15 as well, and the crowd was a fraction of what it was the month before. There is a law on the books in the California Penal Code that prohibits facial masks in public, Halloween notwithstanding. Those concealing their identities are up to no good and ought to be arrested on this charge prior to "wilding"...
10 posted on 03/17/2003 8:07:25 AM PST by at bay
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To: wideawake
"If these guys block your street, just accelerate."
Works for me.
11 posted on 03/17/2003 8:11:43 AM PST by wjcsux
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To: at bay
Penal code section 185:"It shall be unlawful for any person to wear any mask...for the purpose of.... escaping discovery, recognition, or identification in the commission of any public offense."
12 posted on 03/17/2003 8:14:42 AM PST by at bay
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To: longtermmemmory
This weekend why did Big Media only run stories on the few antiwar protestors and ZERO on the hundreds of Rally's for the Troops?
13 posted on 03/17/2003 8:24:54 AM PST by Republicus2001
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To: longtermmemmory
All I can say is that commies love terror. Trotzki once said "terror makes communists out of capitalist men". They are defending their terrorist buddies. Oh, well I still get those sinful urges in my hands when I read about "workers party" men.
14 posted on 03/17/2003 8:26:55 AM PST by singsong
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To: at bay
This weekend why did Big Media only run stories on the few antiwar protestors and ZERO on the hundreds of Rally's for the Troops?
15 posted on 03/17/2003 8:34:50 AM PST by Republicus2001
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To: longtermmemmory
They have their right to protest, but the normal people of this nation have the right to keep their lives sane. This is ANOTHER example of left wing facism. They're attempting to FORCE others to obey or believe their way.
No one elected them. They should go back to their bath houses. Real people in the U.S. have a life!
16 posted on 03/17/2003 8:41:12 AM PST by concerned about politics (Saddam needs a check up from the neck up.)
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To: Republicus2001
I saw reports on MSNBC, the local channel here in Portland, OR and Fox News. All were nice reports. The Portland report (on events in Salem) said "thousands attended".
17 posted on 03/17/2003 8:54:13 AM PST by Jack Black
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To: longtermmemmory
It would be wonderful irony if pro-war protestors did damage to these idiots' possessions (if they have any). What if their apartment was broken into and trashed while they were out demonstrating? What if their cars were destroyed? The good guys don't do that but it would be sweet irony.
18 posted on 03/17/2003 8:55:19 AM PST by doug from upland (Saddam, bend over and kiss your terrorist posterior goodbye.)
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To: longtermmemmory
"When a batch of anarchists and anarchist 'affinity groups' all dress similarly at a protest - typically, in black, with faces covered - this is a black bloc."

I saw the same thing when I was a kid, only they all dressed in white and called themselves the KKK.
19 posted on 03/17/2003 8:57:24 AM PST by Big Otto
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To: Big Otto
I saw the same thing when I was a kid, only they all dressed in white and called themselves the KKK.

Wow. Good point!

20 posted on 03/17/2003 9:01:20 AM PST by concerned about politics (Saddam needs a check up from the neck up.)
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To: KantianBurke
"The crimes they are arrested for - unlawful assembly, refusal to disperse, obstruction of a roadway - are usually treated as misdemeanors, and the protestors are released as soon as police processing is completed, free to resume their illegal acts."

Confinement is a felony. A protestor blocking my way should go to jail, end of story. if the sheeple does not want to be shot and raped like the 6 million jews, the sheeple is going to have to wake up and hold charges.

21 posted on 03/17/2003 9:11:25 AM PST by lavaroise
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To: wideawake
What do you call a dozen anti-American protestors in body bags?
22 posted on 03/17/2003 9:26:41 AM PST by GSWarrior
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To: longtermmemmory
see you and raise you fifty: this picture is of rachel corrie, the olympia, washington, woman who got herself squashed under an israeli tank last night. in the picture, she is teaching palestinian children how to burn american flags. really.

dep

23 posted on 03/17/2003 9:27:40 AM PST by dep
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To: longtermmemmory
This is EXACTLY their Agenda!!! These people are the MAIN organizers of the massive rallies around the WORLD!!

Myself and some others here, have been trying to get the word out on these groups. The have an AGENDA, and it was happening BEFORE 9/11!!!

Fox News did a little blurp on them last week on Fox News Live, with David Asman. But I've not heard anymore since. Fox News talked about the money for these large rallies, and how N. Korea has ties to it, and how Dr. Sami Al-Arian and his "Palestinian Islamic Jihad" is connected.

There are so many aspects of these groups that people need to know!! They are communist and marxist. With an Anti-American AGENDA!!!

They totally plan on disrupting our commerce and creating havoc when we start war with Iraq.

Sadly .. innocent Americans who do have a right to voice their opinion even when different than mine, are being DUPED into thinking these are PEACE activists. Quite the contrary..and anyone who STUDIES then KNOWS IT!!!

The media is either in BED with them, or is too lazy to INVESTIGATE THIS!!!

Thanks for posting this article!!! KNOWLEDGE is KING!!
24 posted on 03/17/2003 9:33:02 AM PST by Vets_Husband_and_Wife
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To: at bay
BUMP for post number 12. Thanks!!
25 posted on 03/17/2003 9:35:19 AM PST by Vets_Husband_and_Wife
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To: dep
It would seem her efforts have suffered a crushing setback.
26 posted on 03/17/2003 9:49:29 AM PST by ISonnet
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To: GSWarrior
RE: "a bunch of hoodlums in body bags laying in the middle of Market Street in downtown SF at this moment.

Do tell?!

Are you sure that they're all DEAD?

Could you take a dump-truck full of gravel and make sure?

It might make for a good start!

Like the guy sez; no problem do we have with free expression and dissent - but when they start constipating our infrastructure and busting things up, especially during a time of war or National crisis, that constitutes a tactical assault on America, doesn't it?

Is TREASON a misdomeanor in the PR of Kalifornia?

These "Black Bloc" hoodlums sound like "Enemy Combattants" to me, or they should be considered as such as soon as the Band begins to play in earnest over in Baghdad.

They might play the devil trying to get a decent heroine fix or cup of latte in one of those cages over yonder in Gitmo, don't you suppose?

Works for me.

And I wonder if the next "Support Our Troops" Rally in urban areas might want to consider going a little heavy on one side (competent and sober only, please) and keeping the vans handy, if you get my drift.
I might think twice about bringing the little lady and the kids out to one for a little while, too.

These CommucRATS are getting desperate, and are already pushing the envelope of "Civility" REAL hard. I would not be at all surprised to see them resorting to tactical resources (we're talking live ordnance, arson, and assault here) any time now.

Physical intimidation, terror and violence might usually be down near the bottom of their bag of tricks, but does anyone out there have any rational doubt that it is always there in the Marxist / Stalinist's bag somewhere?

This could get interesting.

27 posted on 03/17/2003 9:51:21 AM PST by Uncle Jaque (MOXIE(R); It ain't for everyone, Y'know...)
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To: longtermmemmory
if they go on "creative rampages" (what a normal person would call "riots" and "party time") does that mean we can shoot them?
28 posted on 03/17/2003 9:52:05 AM PST by demosthenes the elder (scum will never cease to be scum - why must that be explained to anyone?)
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To: GSWarrior
run them over.
29 posted on 03/17/2003 9:53:35 AM PST by demosthenes the elder (scum will never cease to be scum - why must that be explained to anyone?)
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To: mhking; Sabertooth; dyed_in_the_wool
the useful idiots are restless.
30 posted on 03/17/2003 9:55:13 AM PST by demosthenes the elder (scum will never cease to be scum - why must that be explained to anyone?)
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To: GSWarrior
A good start, of course.
31 posted on 03/17/2003 9:56:04 AM PST by jpl
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To: dep
...))BUMP((* / *XSQUISH*...

How DO you say "Oops" in Yiddish, anyway?

Oh well; Stuff happens.

Don't you have any good Jewish Bulldozer Operators out there in Kalifornia?

Never mind... Just wondering.
32 posted on 03/17/2003 10:00:53 AM PST by Uncle Jaque (MOXIE(R); It ain't for everyone, Y'know...)
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To: wideawake
You know, I'm getting old, and I really hope I don't get startled by these people blocking the street - I might confuse the accelerator pedal for the brake!
33 posted on 03/17/2003 10:21:57 AM PST by talleyman (Violins never solved anything!)
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To: dep
wow. interesting picture.

we've had an american taliban, was this an "american hamas"?
34 posted on 03/17/2003 10:22:54 AM PST by WOSG (Liberate Iraq! Lets Roll! now!)
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To: GSWarrior
There is a bunch of hoodlums in body bags laying in the middle of Market Street in downtown SF at this moment.



35 posted on 03/17/2003 10:38:16 AM PST by Stultis (Do I really need sarcasm tags?)
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To: longtermmemmory
Should a war begin abroad, Americans can expect trouble at home.

They should be treated just like any other terrorist if they resort to terrorism here. Squish...

36 posted on 03/17/2003 10:42:46 AM PST by 69ConvertibleFirebird (Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.)
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To: longtermmemmory
Well, some military installations have already issued orders to use "deadly force" if these insurrectionists try any actions to disrupt the war effort.

Sadly, I think we're going to be seeing a few more "Horst Wessels" like the girl in Israel in the coming weeks.
37 posted on 03/17/2003 10:49:11 AM PST by Antoninus (In hoc signo, vinces )
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To: dep
this picture is of rachel corrie, the olympia, washington, woman who got herself squashed under an israeli tank last night. in the picture, she is teaching palestinian children how to burn american flags. really.

Devine retribution?

38 posted on 03/17/2003 10:55:17 AM PST by concerned about politics (Saddam needs a check up from the neck up.)
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To: longtermmemmory
I'd like to see psychological profiles of all of these type of "demonstrators". I'd like to see profiles of their deep motivations.
39 posted on 03/17/2003 10:56:23 AM PST by garyhope
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To: longtermmemmory
We'll see how far this manages to get in the post 9/11 world, as the nation is put back on a high state of alert due the to Axis of Weasel's politiking which has forced the colition of the willing to make good on the only threat Saddam will listen to.

The anarchists with our country are now behind enemy lines. Not an enviable position to be in if they hope not to be confused with the terrorists we all expect to attack us.

Which begs the question : aren't the anti-war freaks the ones who keep making all the dire predictions about how military action in Iraq will result in devestating terror attacks against this country? If they want to tear down the establishment, who do they expect to protect them in the event of an attack from organized terror?

OK, that's two questions.

40 posted on 03/17/2003 10:59:01 AM PST by cake_crumb (UN Resolutions = VERY expensive, very SCRATCHY toilet paper.)
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To: longtermmemmory
"The disorder only ended after over one hundred and fifty people were arrested and detained, some six hours after the original demonstration began."

Then keep them in detention until the Iraq conflict is resolved.

41 posted on 03/17/2003 11:04:37 AM PST by cake_crumb (UN Resolutions = VERY expensive, very SCRATCHY toilet paper.)
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To: garyhope
I'd like to see psychological profiles of all of these type of "demonstrators". I'd like to see profiles of their deep motivations.

It would be like reading The Exorsist.

42 posted on 03/17/2003 11:06:13 AM PST by concerned about politics (Saddam needs a check up from the neck up.)
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To: GSWarrior
"There is a bunch of hoodlums in body bags laying in the middle of Market Street in downtown SF at this moment"

Are the body bags zippered all the way up?? I wonder if the intellectually elite little dears thought to put breathing holes in them.

Perhaps the Body Bag Bunch can combine their little 'demonstration' of patriotism with one of those lovely interdenominational 'mock funerals' - or a real one if they suffocate - where the Muslim clerics perform joint ceremonies with the Catholic priests within cathedrals. Maybe we can get LIVE TELEVISION COVERAGE OF THE 'EVENT'!!

43 posted on 03/17/2003 11:19:36 AM PST by cake_crumb (UN Resolutions = VERY expensive, very SCRATCHY toilet paper.)
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To: longtermmemmory
Did this happen in any other anti-war protests?

So far , there is no war. What are they doing all this for?
Iraqi people may just surrender without a fight, or Saddam will run. No one knows.
The liberal mutants are a little overly emotional lately, aren't they? What a bunch of losers.

44 posted on 03/17/2003 11:26:09 AM PST by concerned about politics (Saddam needs a check up from the neck up.)
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To: longtermmemmory
Give the cops paint ball guns to mark out people who need to be arrested. Problem solved. :P
45 posted on 03/17/2003 11:28:50 AM PST by Constantine XIII
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To: Vets_Husband_and_Wife
Heck, to the uninformed it probalby sounds like "tinfoil black helicopter" talk. Unfortunately, the truth IS that wierd. :(
46 posted on 03/17/2003 11:31:44 AM PST by Constantine XIII
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To: wideawake
"Watch what the police do if any merchant tries to use his God-given right to defend his property from looters."

It's gonna be a little hard even for the Kalifornia Kops to pass off a riot as 'pretected free speech' for very long.

47 posted on 03/17/2003 11:32:17 AM PST by cake_crumb (UN Resolutions = VERY expensive, very SCRATCHY toilet paper.)
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To: longtermmemmory
indymedia.org ought to be shut down under R.I.C.O.
48 posted on 03/17/2003 11:34:37 AM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: Stultis
Kill it and grill it.
49 posted on 03/17/2003 11:39:56 AM PST by GSWarrior
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To: Constantine XIII
AGree.. it is extremely "wierd" sounding..and I used to think people who spoke of such conspiracy's were nut cases. But after READING up on these groups.. I'm a believer!!
50 posted on 03/17/2003 11:41:01 AM PST by Vets_Husband_and_Wife
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