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INS Tells Marine He's Not Good Enough For Citizenship.
Fox News | 03/17/2003 | Self

Posted on 03/17/2003 12:20:00 PM PST by bluecollarman

Did anyone else hear the News Report on The Marine Sgt. on FOX news? He says INS deemed him to be of inadequate character to be a US citizen!

Marine was born in Vietnam and had some minor trouble when he was a young man, obviously the trouble was not serious enough to keep him out of the USMC but serious enough he can't be a citizen? Is there nothing we can do to help him?


TOPICS: Activism/Chapters; Government; News/Current Events; US: Maryland
KEYWORDS: citizenship; dumb; ins; marine; marines
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I waited for someone to post this but no one did. I never have posted before so keep that in mind before you flame.
1 posted on 03/17/2003 12:20:01 PM PST by bluecollarman
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To: bluecollarman
Donna Rice [Hughes] has gone on and done something with her life. Gary Hart is still an idiot.
2 posted on 03/17/2003 12:22:15 PM PST by dirtboy (Render yourself invisible to the media - attend a Rally for America today!)
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To: bluecollarman
got a link?
3 posted on 03/17/2003 12:22:49 PM PST by shadowman99
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To: bluecollarman
Can someone ping some Marines for me?
4 posted on 03/17/2003 12:23:16 PM PST by bluecollarman
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To: bluecollarman; TLBSHOW
I'm with you. Did you check with Fox News to see if they are doing anything?
5 posted on 03/17/2003 12:24:15 PM PST by netmilsmom (Bush/Rice 2004- pray & fast for our troops this lent)
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To: shadowman99
No it was one of those live interviews with the troops, came on about 45 minutes ago
6 posted on 03/17/2003 12:24:16 PM PST by bluecollarman
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To: dirtboy
I met her during the course of my internet crime work... an admirable lady :-)
7 posted on 03/17/2003 12:25:01 PM PST by Tamzee ("Sabotage" and "Charade"....both from the French language)
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To: bluecollarman
Find out who the guy's congressman is - hopefully, it will be a Republican. If the Marines give this guy a pass - and they don't let much get passed them - then he ought to be okay for citizenship. This is just more of the INS garbage.
8 posted on 03/17/2003 12:25:45 PM PST by CyberAnt ( -> -> -> Oswego!!)
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To: shadowman99
It was an interview with that Marine on FOX News Channel. I saw it myself. I don't think there is a link to that interview anywhere.
9 posted on 03/17/2003 12:26:04 PM PST by David1
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To: bluecollarman; Poohbah; tet68; Texas_Jarhead; XJarhead; SamAdams76
I never have posted before so keep that in mind before you flame.

No flames from me. I'll ping a few Marines to see what they know about this, and what they'd suggest.

10 posted on 03/17/2003 12:26:44 PM PST by dighton
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To: bluecollarman
It was an interview done with the soldier on Fox News, but I can't remember who the interviewer was.
11 posted on 03/17/2003 12:27:09 PM PST by Lovergirl (Let's Roll!!!)
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To: netmilsmom
Yes I emailed everyone I know... his Senator is from Maryland, Sarbanes (sic?)..

The reporter ask him how he felt about it and the Marine said mainly he is just "pissed off". He was hoping someone watching could help him.
12 posted on 03/17/2003 12:27:15 PM PST by bluecollarman
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To: bluecollarman
Non-US citizens should not be members of the US armed forces -- period.
13 posted on 03/17/2003 12:29:14 PM PST by CaptIsaacDavis
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To: David1
Well at least I know I wasn't the only one to see it.
Thanks!
14 posted on 03/17/2003 12:29:31 PM PST by bluecollarman
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To: bluecollarman; All
inadequate character over something he did as a teenager. But I guess not inadequate enough to put on the Marine uniform and prevent him from fighting and dying for this country.
15 posted on 03/17/2003 12:29:38 PM PST by David1
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To: dighton
"I'll ping a few Marines to see "

THANKS MUCH!
16 posted on 03/17/2003 12:30:27 PM PST by bluecollarman
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To: bluecollarman
Hmmm...let's see ... Whose judgment do I trust more, the United States Marine Corps or the INS. That's a tough one. Who has a better track record of selfless service, integrity, and success in mission accomplishment? Dunno, this is a close one...
17 posted on 03/17/2003 12:31:05 PM PST by American Soldier
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To: bluecollarman
This is all the information you have on this guy, and you want a force to get him citizenship... I don't think so!

Why don't we find out why he is not thought about in a high esteem first.

I know of other marines who have denounced their citizenship, are you sure he is not one of those??

18 posted on 03/17/2003 12:31:49 PM PST by sit-rep
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To: David1
"inadequate character over something he did as a teenager. But I guess not inadequate enough to put on the Marine uniform and prevent him from fighting and dying for this country."

Right, seems like Bush could do an "Executive Order" for this.
19 posted on 03/17/2003 12:32:50 PM PST by bluecollarman
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To: CaptIsaacDavis
Hey, it's the only way Canadians get to fight!
20 posted on 03/17/2003 12:35:16 PM PST by Thud
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To: sit-rep
"Why don't we find out why he is not thought about in a high esteem first."

Look what is your problem? He says he loves the Marines... He is in the sand dressed and ready to go to war.

Yes I would make him a citizen. He is a Sgt. in an honorable status.
21 posted on 03/17/2003 12:36:36 PM PST by bluecollarman
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To: bluecollarman
I saw the report. If he wins a Bronze Star, he's a shoe in.
22 posted on 03/17/2003 12:37:54 PM PST by ScholarWarrior
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To: CyberAnt
He is from Silverspring MD
23 posted on 03/17/2003 12:38:15 PM PST by not-alone
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To: CaptIsaacDavis
Okay... them make him a citizen.
24 posted on 03/17/2003 12:39:12 PM PST by bluecollarman
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To: CaptIsaacDavis
My Dad was drafted 3 months after he arrived in the US in 1955, so this is not some new rule. In fact both he and my uncle (mother's side) were proud and honored to be asked to serve, it allowed them to become citizens in a much shorter period of time. What right do you have to impugn the motives of someone who obviously loves this country enough to defend it.
25 posted on 03/17/2003 12:40:26 PM PST by sharkhawk
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To: not-alone
his Senator is from Maryland, Sarbanes >> he said had he had contacted Sarbanes office and received no help
26 posted on 03/17/2003 12:40:28 PM PST by not-alone
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To: sit-rep
He has not renounced his citizenship, or anything like that.

What came out in the interview was that he was born in Vietnam and came to the US when he was six months old. I would have been hard pressed to identify where he was from based on listening to him, as he has absolutely no accent. According to him, he got into trouble when he was a teenager. He did not elaborate on what kind of trouble he go into. Since that time, he has grown into an adult. He has served six years in the Marine Corp (I can't remember the rank but it was not at the bottom; he has earned some promotions). After his initial six years, he has served another six years in the Reserves, and now he is stationed on the Iraqi border in Kuwait. The interview was in one of the Marine's quarter tents in Kuwait -- they hold about 40 guys and there were other Marines seen inside the then at the time.

He stated that the INS, because of his previous trouble as a teenager has told him he does not have the moral character to be a citizen. Meanwhile, the Marine Corps obviously believes that he has the moral character to be an officer. He was just hoping that someone would see the interview and take up the cause so that he could become a US citizen. Regardless of whether or not that happens, he assured Fox News that he was there to do a job as a Marine and to protect the USA.
27 posted on 03/17/2003 12:41:28 PM PST by RedWhiteBlue
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To: bluecollarman
I heard the interview. Here is a guy putting his life on the line for the dumb asses in the INS and for us while O.J. Simpleton is enjoying a game of golf and snuffing cocaine with some ditzy broad.

Lets hope someone brings the plight of this brave Marine to the attention of George W.
28 posted on 03/17/2003 12:41:30 PM PST by hgro
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To: bluecollarman
I seen the same interview. Although my first response is to condemn the INS and feel sorry for the Marine. My better judgement said if this marine were to be one that was just linked to a terrorist action, I would be screaming at the top of my lungs saying what in ther H*** is this alien doing in the U.S.Marines,

Can we have it both ways?

What is the solution for this (what seems to be) a possible future U.S. Citizen left out in the cold.?

29 posted on 03/17/2003 12:42:53 PM PST by chachacha
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To: David1
I'm just lucky that inadequate character during the teen years isn't cause for forfeiting citizenship. If it is I would have been kicked out of the country years ago.
30 posted on 03/17/2003 12:43:48 PM PST by sparkomatic (I wish I were gullible; then I'd be like everyone else)
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To: bluecollarman
This is what can happen when non-citizens are allowed to server in the military which I've never really understood. I hope the INS's position can be reversed.
31 posted on 03/17/2003 12:43:53 PM PST by Texas_Jarhead
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To: hgro
"Lets hope someone brings the plight of this brave Marine to the attention of George W."

I'm with you! I wish it would just make O'rielly's ridiculous item of the day.
32 posted on 03/17/2003 12:44:27 PM PST by bluecollarman
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To: bluecollarman
I saw that interview and I think we should all write our Congresscritters and tell them to give him citizenship. If he's good enough to fight for our country then I believe he's due our thanks with citizenship being given to him.
33 posted on 03/17/2003 12:46:42 PM PST by NRA2BFree (PRAY FOR OUR TROOPS!!!)
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To: sharkhawk
Did he join to defend this nation, or did he join to gain citizenship? Knowing he had a major problem in his past did he join the Marines for his own personnel gain?
I learned more about life as a REMF then I did in the Infantry!
34 posted on 03/17/2003 12:46:58 PM PST by earplug
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To: bluecollarman
I am a proud active duty Marine. I have and currently serve with Marines that are not US citzens. I have served with Marines that are from Ireland, Mexico, and Canada to name a few. If these Marines want citzenship and have served honorably they should be granted citzenship.
35 posted on 03/17/2003 12:50:50 PM PST by smicah (Citzenship for Marines)
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To: bluecollarman
The INS seems to be pretty good at handling normal people, who are generally law-abiding, like this guy, Elian Gonzales, and the Canadian who drove 50 feet across the border to get some gas.

The trouble they had is dealing with the bad guys. They're not too good at that.

36 posted on 03/17/2003 12:50:55 PM PST by B Knotts
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To: chachacha
The difference here is the Marine was vetted. All I am saying is that if his character is good enough to be a Marine Sgt. It is good enough to be a citizen. I mean
aren't the "Sheen boys" citizens? Yet the younger one one not qualify to be a Marine.
37 posted on 03/17/2003 12:50:59 PM PST by bluecollarman
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To: CaptIsaacDavis; dighton; ALOHA RONNIE; hchutch
Non-US citizens should not be members of the US armed forces -- period.

Well, isn't that special!

You would keep such unworthy folks as Rick Rescorla out of the US armed forces.

If you don't know who Rick Rescorla was...perhaps you should educate yourself before reopening your pie hole.

38 posted on 03/17/2003 12:51:55 PM PST by Poohbah (Beware the fury of a patient man -- John Dryden)
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To: CaptIsaacDavis
I've served with some very honorable men who were not yet citizens, and am glad to do so again. One guy in my current batallion is in the process of becoming non-french, and he is a great guy and a valuable assett.
39 posted on 03/17/2003 12:51:55 PM PST by Britton J Wingfield
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To: earplug
I really don't know nor do I really care. The point is that he is serving this country and ready to die.
40 posted on 03/17/2003 12:52:31 PM PST by David1
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To: bluecollarman
I waited for someone to post this but no one did. I never have posted before so keep that in mind before you flame

The only flames are the one coming out of my butt, right now.

If has been making his way through the military establishment in an honorable way.....someone send me the name of the INS agent in charge...and the flames will all be theirs. This is deplorable action.

41 posted on 03/17/2003 12:53:07 PM PST by Focault's Pendulum (I just bought the Maginot Line on E Bay.)
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To: Poohbah; mhking; rdb3
Nice work - and sentiments I share.

Some folks just don't get it - or they don't want to get it.
42 posted on 03/17/2003 12:53:48 PM PST by hchutch ("Last suckers crossed, Syndicate shot'em up" - Ice-T, "I'm Your Pusher")
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To: earplug
He is a refugee from Vietnam, looks like from a Mixed Marriage Black/Asian.
43 posted on 03/17/2003 12:54:12 PM PST by bluecollarman
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To: bluecollarman
Has anyone sic'd Bill O'Rielly on this? Bet he would light up the INS......
44 posted on 03/17/2003 12:54:40 PM PST by Bodacious
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To: Poohbah
Excellent!
45 posted on 03/17/2003 12:55:57 PM PST by bluecollarman
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To: bluecollarman
This guy is good enough to fight and die but not be a citizen and vote? This (if true) is garbage. Bush ought to fire everybody in the INS and start over from scratch.
46 posted on 03/17/2003 12:56:16 PM PST by Jaxter (Proud Republican voter since 1972.)
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To: CaptIsaacDavis
Agreed. This is how our enemies infiltrate our insititutions.

Don't forget, two soldiers with Hispanic last names sabotaged more than 18 parachutes at a base and some soldiers were hurt by it.
47 posted on 03/17/2003 12:56:23 PM PST by mabelkitty
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To: bluecollarman
He needs to contact his US Senators.

A letter from a US Senator usually leads to a fresh review of an immigration case.

The INS reverses itself when political pressure is exerted.

Florida US Senator Graham wrote a letter on behalf of one of my employees, and his citizenship application were review again and approved.

His original application to become a US citizen had been rejected, because he had a misdemeanor conviction for having been found with a marihuana cigarrette, dating back to his college days.

48 posted on 03/17/2003 12:56:45 PM PST by george wythe
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To: Bodacious
I e-mailed him but it would help if more people would.
49 posted on 03/17/2003 12:56:57 PM PST by bluecollarman
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To: bluecollarman
Yes, I saw it and took screen captures. This is FNC's Rick Leventhal(?) interviewing the Marine.


50 posted on 03/17/2003 12:57:13 PM PST by aeronca
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