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Iraqi Troops Reporting Deserting
Newsmax.com ^ | March 17, 2003 | Carl Limbacher

Posted on 03/17/2003 7:47:07 PM PST by Lady In Blue

NewsMax.com

 

Monday, March 17, 2003

Iraqi Troops Reported Deserting

As many as 30,000 terrified Iraqi soldiers have already deserted, according to a report in Britain's Sun newspaper.

Writing from the U.S. Command Center in Qatar, Sun correspondents George Pascoe-Watson and Simon Hughes reported that intelligence sources estimate that as many as 15 percent of Saddam's army have deserted before a single shot has been fired.

A senior British war planner at US Central Command in Qatar told the Sun last night: "Iraqi soldiers are scared out of their wits at what they know is over their borders.They are not stupid. They know if they hang around there’s a good chance of things getting very nasty indeed."

The mass desertions fueled the Sun reports by leaflet drops warning Saddam’s men to quit or face death, was uncovered by eavesdropping on military communications.

The paper speculated that Saddam may not even be able to rely on his elite Republican Guard. Military planners believe the troops may turn on their generals rather than face the 250,000-strong Allied force.



TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Free Republic; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: iraqideserters

1 posted on 03/17/2003 7:47:07 PM PST by Lady In Blue
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To: Lady In Blue
Hey, would the last one out, please get the lights and off the big guy?
2 posted on 03/17/2003 7:49:16 PM PST by gov_bean_ counter
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To: Lady In Blue
Every deserter we pick up is one less armed Iraqi soldier we have to deal with. Personally I would be elated if we did not have to drop a single bomb or fire a shot but unfortunately there will be some who just inist on being killed.
3 posted on 03/17/2003 7:50:17 PM PST by harpseal (Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown)
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To: Lady In Blue
Does this article say where they went?
4 posted on 03/17/2003 7:50:23 PM PST by patriciaruth
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To: Lady In Blue
I soooooo hope this is true GO GEORGE GO USA
5 posted on 03/17/2003 7:50:23 PM PST by try phecta tom
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To: gov_bean_ counter
My husband is laughing and saying, "Surrender now, and avoid the rush."
6 posted on 03/17/2003 7:51:21 PM PST by patriciaruth
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To: Lady In Blue
Memo to Saddam:

The jig is up. Say your prayers.

7 posted on 03/17/2003 7:52:15 PM PST by Agent Smith
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To: Lady In Blue
Great news! Maybe we can train these guys to do the dangerous "urban warfare" assuming, of course, that there are people who insist on fighting.
8 posted on 03/17/2003 7:53:38 PM PST by DeepInEnemyTerritory
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To: Lady In Blue
aaaaa statistics :)).

in sun office

one sais: 15% have deserted.

the other: how much is that?

well aaa 15% out of iraqi army of 200000 is 30000.

the other: uuuuu wow ...

BY THE WAY THE ORIGINAL STORY SAIS THAT IN THE NORTHERN PART OF IRAQ US UNITS ARE REPORTING THAT ABOUT 15% OF SOLDIERS THERE!! HAVE DESERTED.

That does not mean 15% in whole Iraq.

But I am sure that by the end of the week there will be 100000 deserters. But I hate statistics especially writen by a journalists.

9 posted on 03/17/2003 7:55:43 PM PST by bobi (events before the event are more important than the event)
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To: Lady In Blue
Are the French advising the Iraqi military too?
10 posted on 03/17/2003 7:55:57 PM PST by The South Texan
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To: Lady In Blue
Video ! Pictures ! FORCE the media to play this up even if they hate doing it !
11 posted on 03/17/2003 7:56:37 PM PST by RS
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To: Lady In Blue
I hope these guys don't get near our troups. trojan horse shit.
12 posted on 03/17/2003 7:58:25 PM PST by TBall
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To: nickcarraway
Ping!
13 posted on 03/17/2003 7:58:35 PM PST by Canticle_of_Deborah
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To: Lady In Blue
Send all the Iraqi POWs to France.
14 posted on 03/17/2003 7:59:02 PM PST by Consort
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To: Lady In Blue
... And treat them well, we need more people in that area with a greater respect for themselves and their country rather then the mindless ones who follow the insane leaders !

Let them go home with stories of the generously way they were treated by the Americans.
15 posted on 03/17/2003 8:01:12 PM PST by RS
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To: Lady In Blue
LOL...... Yep and word is they had to tell them to go back and come back in 48 hours.......
'30,000 IRAQI SOLDIERS DESERT'

Mar 17 2003

Scared Iraqi conscripts return home to avoid battle, say Allied commanders

From Bob Roberts At The US HQ, Camp As-Saylihah, Qatar

 

UP TO 30,000 Iraqi conscripts have fled to escape an invasion, allied commanders claimed last night.

One source said of the deserters - around 15per cent of the Iraqi army: "They have upped and left, they are going home to mum."


16 posted on 03/17/2003 8:04:50 PM PST by deport (The Truth doesn't need a gift to be known.....)
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To: Consort
They'd just let them go and probably make them mayor.
17 posted on 03/17/2003 8:06:14 PM PST by Inkie
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To: Lady In Blue
15 percent of Saddam's army have deserted

How many of them want to fight with us? If we play this right, instead of POW's they could be part of the coalition of the willing.

18 posted on 03/17/2003 8:06:46 PM PST by Reeses
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To: TBall
The deserters must be segregated as though they carry an infectious disease.
19 posted on 03/17/2003 8:09:48 PM PST by Tax Government
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To: try phecta tom
"I soooooo hope this is true GO GEORGE GO USA."

The chances of this being true are far greater than it not being true.

They surrenderred in Desert Storm by the tens of thousands, but those were the Iraqi soldiers supposedly "disposable" by the Iraqi elite.

The Republican (I hate they chose that name) Guard are the ones we will need to be watching. They have "political officers" who stand in the ranks waiting to shoot to kill anyone even looking like they want to desert.

Pray.

20 posted on 03/17/2003 8:09:51 PM PST by Happy2BMe (HOLLYWOOD:Ask not what U can do for your country, ask what U can do for Iraq!)
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To: Lady In Blue
Normally I would discount reporting of this nature, but the times they are a changing.

I have heard and read about many instances of the Iraqi soldiers ready to surrender, both in 1991 and now. I believe that the U.S. Military is not counting on surrender as a tactic and nor should they. Hoping to take advantage of such a situation might be more accurate.

I do believe that defection,surrender, or desertion is a much stronger possibility now than twelve years ago.

Hoping for hours instead of days, instead of weeks.
21 posted on 03/17/2003 8:18:44 PM PST by MisterHistory
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To: Lady In Blue
30,000 terrified yet smart Iraqi soldiers...
22 posted on 03/17/2003 8:23:44 PM PST by God is good
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To: God is good
Vote with your feet as they say.
23 posted on 03/17/2003 8:24:17 PM PST by God is good
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To: Lady In Blue
NOW should be especially pleased with this development. That's 30,000 X 72 = 2.16 million virgins who will remain virtuous in Islam "heaven". Oh well, there'll still be a shortage no doubt. I'm guessing this must be the gay contingent of Saddam's army.
24 posted on 03/17/2003 8:33:33 PM PST by MCH
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As long as they keep surrendering. They will get good treatment by our G.I.'s, meals, medical care; treated like humans for a change. These that are surrendering now, will most likely be our loyalist in the coming months. The hard core's are the one's I want to introduce to the MOAB. These conscripts are most likely, by and large, looking to save their own hide's. We all know GW I was 12 years ago, but we did lay down a horrendous smack down on Iraq. I doubt most of saddam's fodder has foregotten that. Given a repeat or the choice of life, what do you think they are going to pick?
25 posted on 03/17/2003 8:42:52 PM PST by Michael Barnes
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To: Lady In Blue
Good for them. Saddam's slaves are making a move to escape.

I bet Saddam is going to be very lonely, shortly before the end.

26 posted on 03/17/2003 8:43:42 PM PST by LibKill (The UN is of less use than dog doo in the gutter.)
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To: LibKill
Last one out, turn out his lights!

Pray for GW and Our Troops

27 posted on 03/17/2003 8:49:01 PM PST by bray
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To: LibKill
I think that someone finally told them that the promise of 72 virgins was just a joke!
28 posted on 03/17/2003 10:05:58 PM PST by tessalu
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To: Lady In Blue
I understand now why the French have been adamantly opposed to this war. Evidently they’ve been training the Iraqi military. And now, the student has surpassed the teacher at the only thing the French military is good at.....surrendering at the first sign of a fight!
29 posted on 03/17/2003 10:21:42 PM PST by FLcitizen
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To: Reeses
I think we should use these Iraqis in our front line to further encourge more Iraqis to surrender or join our side. Having the Iraqi troops join our side is a huge political plus.

What can the liberals say about having Iraqi troops join our side in the fight? Guess it proves they are WRONG!
30 posted on 03/18/2003 12:40:37 AM PST by GaryMontana
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To: Lady In Blue
Telling, very telling about conditions in Iraq.
31 posted on 03/18/2003 5:51:22 AM PST by tob2
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To: tob2
BTTT
32 posted on 03/18/2003 7:58:22 AM PST by sunnym
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To: bobi
But I hate statistics especially writen by a journalists.

Studies show that 94.53% of all statistics are made up.

33 posted on 03/18/2003 11:06:07 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets
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To: TBall
We pray no Trojan Horse scheme, indeed.
34 posted on 03/18/2003 11:23:11 AM PST by Hila
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To: Hila
I wonder if this is true, as any deserters who go home will be killed pdq by Sodemite thugs.

It is much more likely they will surrender once the Allies move in and they have someone to surrender to.
35 posted on 03/18/2003 1:24:26 PM PST by crazycat
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To: Lady In Blue
Bump for later reading
36 posted on 03/18/2003 2:57:01 PM PST by ex-Texan (primates capitulards toujours en quete de fromage!)
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To: Lady In Blue
I'll believe it when I see it.
37 posted on 03/18/2003 2:58:03 PM PST by ChadGore (No matter where you go, there you are.)
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To: Lady In Blue
Tell them Saddam Hussein has won the coin toss and has elected to receive.
38 posted on 03/18/2003 3:06:52 PM PST by oyez (Is this a great country...... or what??)
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To: Lady In Blue
We may win without firing a shot.
39 posted on 03/18/2003 6:59:32 PM PST by Bulldogs22
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