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BREAKING BIG: POSSIBLE PATHOGEN DETECTED IN SARS CASE
PROMED ^ | 03-18-03

Posted on 03/18/2003 10:12:00 AM PST by Mother Abigail

Paramyxovirus-like particles identified by electron microscopy

Numerous tests have been performed on the 3 patients admitted on Saturday 15 March to the Isolation Unit at Frankfurt am Main with suspected severe acute respiratory syndrome (SARS). Tests from respiratory specimens for influenza A and B virus, respiratory syncytial virus, enteroviruses, _Mycoplasma pneumoniae_ and _Chlamydia_ spp. by antigen enzyme linked immunosorbent assay (ELISA) and/or polymerase chain reaction (PCR) were all negative; antibody tests for dengue, influenza A and B, measles, hantaviruses, _Mycoplasma pneumoniae_ and _Chlamydia_ spp. were likewise negative or unremarkable so far; further test results are pending.

Particles morphologically resembling paramyxoviruses were seen in respiratory specimens (throat swab and sputum) obtained from the index patient, a doctor from Singapore, by the teams in Marburg and in Frankfurt am Main.

It remains to be seen whether this finding can be confirmed -- tests including low-stringency paramyxovirus PCR and tissue culture are currently under way in Hamburg, in Marburg and in Frankfurt am Main. It needs to be emphasised that at this time these preliminary results only indicate a suspicion. Furthermore, even if the presence of a paramyxovirus was confirmed, it is not clear at this stage whether this might represent the causal agent of SARS or rather a coincidental finding.


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: atypicalpneumonia; chlamydia; epidemic; paramyxovirus; sars; spanishflu; virus
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To: vetvetdoug; CathyRyan; per loin; bonesmccoy; Judith Anne; mommadooo3; Domestic Church; 1 spark; ...
Here we go...

Kudos to vetvetdoug (you sir are the man)

Predicted the bug on this thread

SARS
41 posted on 03/18/2003 10:22:28 AM PST by Mother Abigail
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To: borkrules
So far I've learned you can get chlamydia from an arthropod, I think. I guess I'll have to take a shower and check back later.
42 posted on 03/18/2003 10:23:16 AM PST by far sider
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To: xsmommy
Younger, yes.

Spry? Not today.
My throat is killing me!! (strep?)

43 posted on 03/18/2003 10:23:32 AM PST by Constitution Day (** RALLY FOR AMERICA: Raleigh, NC ** http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/861481/posts)
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To: Endeavor; bonesmccoy
Can you translate this please?
44 posted on 03/18/2003 10:23:32 AM PST by Aggie Mama
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To: Constitution Day; xsmommy
Mother Abigail's post is correct. Paramyxoviruses are everywhere. This family includes Respiratory Syncitial Virus, Mumps, Parainfluenza and Measles. I'm thinking red herring.
45 posted on 03/18/2003 10:23:38 AM PST by CholeraJoe (Curtis Loew was the finest picker who ever played the Blues)
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To: Constitution Day; CholeraJoe; xsmommy
OK so what does this mean in English?
46 posted on 03/18/2003 10:23:40 AM PST by NeoCaveman (Never forget French treachery)
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To: Mother Abigail
Huh? What does that mean to us medical verbage challenged people?
47 posted on 03/18/2003 10:24:23 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Even if the government took all your earnings, you wouldn’t be, in its eyes, a slave.)
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To: bonesmccoy; aruanan
ping
48 posted on 03/18/2003 10:24:33 AM PST by TomB
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To: Constitution Day
go to the dr!
49 posted on 03/18/2003 10:24:34 AM PST by xsmommy
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To: EGPWS
I think it sounds like the teacher in the old Peanuts cartoons.
50 posted on 03/18/2003 10:24:48 AM PST by A Texan (Lets finish the game.)
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To: Mother Abigail
Yeah that really cleared it up!!!!
51 posted on 03/18/2003 10:25:01 AM PST by Robert DeLong
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To: VRWC_minion
Paramyxoviruses are what cause mumps and a few other illness. They can be fatal and spread relatively easily.
52 posted on 03/18/2003 10:25:08 AM PST by BJClinton (Ignorance is Blix.)
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To: The Great Satan
Can you translate this medical jargon?
53 posted on 03/18/2003 10:25:09 AM PST by freeperfromnj
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To: CholeraJoe
so, bottom line,what?
54 posted on 03/18/2003 10:25:18 AM PST by xsmommy
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To: brewcrew
Well, if what they've found is really the source of the disease, neither antibiotics nor sulfa drugs will do doodly-squat to stop it. AIDS aside, the usual Western approach to treating viruses involve a) vaccination, or b) treating the symptoms, thus keeping the patient alive long enough for the immune system to beat the virus.

Look for at least one colloidal silver enthusiast to poke his head in this thread before it's over. (It's like a tinfoil hat that you swallow.)

55 posted on 03/18/2003 10:25:34 AM PST by Oberon (This tagline intentionally left blank.)
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To: seamole
Psitacosis is a lung/tuberculosis type disease most commonly found in birds!! Parrots in particular....

Weird...
56 posted on 03/18/2003 10:25:36 AM PST by IvanT
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To: Mother Abigail
Isn't Mother Abigail the name of the character in the Stephen King super-flu novel, The Stand?

If so, that's a REALLY creepy coincidence.

57 posted on 03/18/2003 10:25:57 AM PST by hispanarepublicana (successful, educated unauthentic latina--in Patrick Leahy's eyes, at least)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer; vharlow; VRWC_minion; MikeWUSAF; smith288; Snowy
As near as I can translate it:

Paramyxovirus-like particles identified by electron microscopy

Dey seen a bug.

Numerous tests have been performed on the 3 patients admitted on Saturday 15 March to the Isolation Unit at Frankfurt am Main with suspected severe acute respiratory syndrome (SARS). Tests from respiratory specimens for influenza A and B virus, respiratory syncytial virus, enteroviruses, _Mycoplasma pneumoniae_ and _Chlamydia_ spp. by antigen enzyme linked immunosorbent assay (ELISA) and/or polymerase chain reaction (PCR) were all negative; antibody tests for dengue, influenza A and B, measles, hantaviruses, _Mycoplasma pneumoniae_ and _Chlamydia_ spp. were likewise negative or unremarkable so far; further test results are pending.

Dey know a bunch of stuff it ain't.

Particles morphologically resembling paramyxoviruses were seen in respiratory specimens (throat swab and sputum) obtained from the index patient, a doctor from Singapore, by the teams in Marburg and in Frankfurt am Main.

De bug looks like "Paramyxovirus".

It remains to be seen whether this finding can be confirmed -- tests including low-stringency paramyxovirus PCR and tissue culture are currently under way in Hamburg, in Marburg and in Frankfurt am Main. It needs to be emphasised that at this time these preliminary results only indicate a suspicion. Furthermore, even if the presence of a paramyxovirus was confirmed, it is not clear at this stage whether this might represent the causal agent of SARS or rather a coincidental finding.

But dey ain't sure it's DE bug...< /gallows humor >

58 posted on 03/18/2003 10:26:02 AM PST by null and void
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To: borkrules
I am here child, what do you want to know...
59 posted on 03/18/2003 10:26:34 AM PST by Mother Abigail
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To: Mother Abigail
So, it appears to be a new virus, but they're not sure that what they're seeing is actually what caused the superflu.

Chances are it is, but it will take more testing.

This is good news, although it also means antibiotics won't have much effect in treating the disease, unless some other complications develop.

It also means that a vaccine could probably be developed, although that would take months at a minimum.

So, while this is good news, it's also bad news. We see Captain Tripps, but we don't know what to do about it.

60 posted on 03/18/2003 10:26:55 AM PST by Dog Gone
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