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Names, Stories, and Pictures of the Fallen Heroes of Operation Iraqi Freedom
Wire Reports | 3/22/03 | Wire Reports

Posted on 03/22/2003 10:32:34 AM PST by Diddle E. Squat

Names of the four US Marines who died in yesterday's helicopter crash:

Maj. Jay Thomas Aubin, 36, of Waterville, Maine

Capt. Ryan Anthony Beaupre, 30, of Bloomington, Ill.

Cpl. Brian Matthew Kennedy, 25, of Houston, Texas

Staff Sgt. Kendall Damon Watersbey, 29, of Baltimore, Md.

The Pentagon has just released the names of two more US Marines who were killed in Iraq. I'll post as soon as I find that.


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Let's update this thread as names are released. Their ultimate sacrifice for others and in service of our country should not be forgotten. We will forever be in debt to them, and lift prayers for comfort for their families on their loss.
1 posted on 03/22/2003 10:32:34 AM PST by Diddle E. Squat
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To: Diddle E. Squat
God bless them and anyone willing to die on their feet than live on their knees. They did not die for nothing. A just cause is worth loss. It makes the action valid and gives it a soul and human touch. People will remember the Americans and Brits for their sacrifice.
2 posted on 03/22/2003 11:37:26 AM PST by satchmodog9 (it's coming and if you don't get off the tracks it will run you down)
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To: Diddle E. Squat
Capt. Ryan Beaupre


3 posted on 03/22/2003 11:52:11 AM PST by Diddle E. Squat
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To: Diddle E. Squat
Maj. Jay Aubin


4 posted on 03/22/2003 11:53:13 AM PST by Diddle E. Squat
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To: Diddle E. Squat
To our fallen comrades...
5 posted on 03/22/2003 11:53:53 AM PST by Joe 6-pack (Never forget 9/11/01)
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To: Diddle E. Squat
Staff Sgt. Kendall Damon Watersbey


6 posted on 03/22/2003 11:54:26 AM PST by Diddle E. Squat
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To: Diddle E. Squat
Thanks for this thread.

I was watching the news earlier and the mother of Brian Kennedy was being interviewed. Some of what she said about Brian stuck with me. “Brian felt he had a job to do and he was going to do it. He was very proud to do it…I was really lucky to know Brian for so long…he was really really fun to know…loved to laugh…loved to enjoy life…he‘d come home and take off his Marine boots and put on his flip flops…He died for all of us”
8 posted on 03/22/2003 11:57:25 AM PST by amom (!SHAKANA!)
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To: amom
Thanks for your post. That is the kind of info and memories that can help this thread to commemorate these brave warriors who died for others.
9 posted on 03/22/2003 12:00:47 PM PST by Diddle E. Squat
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To: Diddle E. Squat
http://www.boston.com/dailyglobe2/081/metro/Maine_town_remembers_boy_who_grew_up_flying+.shtml

Maine town remembers boy who grew up flying


By Sarah Schweitzer, Globe Staff, 3/22/2003

KOWHEGAN, Maine - Major Jay Aubin wanted little else from the time he was a boy soaring in the bush planes his father piloted over the wilds of Maine.

Flying was a singular dream, one that would lead the Skowhegan native to enlist in the military and ultimately to the sandy stretches of Kuwait, where he died Friday in a helicopter crash.

Aubin, a 36-year-old husband and father of two, was among four Marines and eight British commandos killed in a helicopter crash 9 miles from the Iraqi border, the first allied casualties of the war that has since claimed more US lives.

Among the American fatalities in the crash was Corporal Brian Kennedy, who grew up in the Chicago suburb of Glenview but whose mother and stepfather have made their home in coastal Maine for five years.

Authorities have said there was no hostile fire on the CH-46 Sea Knight chopper and the cause of the crash is under investigation, though indications suggest it was an accident.

For a man like Aubin who believed wholly that war in Iraq was right and necessary, his death so early in the conflict and without confrontation with the enemy seemed a painful irony to his family.

''He had ideals and he was going to put his life on the line for the world,'' said his stepmother, Carol Aubin of Bangs, Texas. ''The sad fact is that war was just starting - we were just 23 hours into it.''

''In the end,'' she said ruefully, ''maybe it will be over in two or three days.''

The deaths of two men with ties to Maine rippled through the state, echoing earlier news during the war in Afghanistan when Air Force Master Sergeant Evander Earl Andrews, a native of the central Maine town of Solon, was the first US soldier to die in the campaign against terrorists that opened in October 2001.

In Skowhegan, a town of nearly 9,000 where Jay Aubin played high school football and baseball and was voted student of the year as a senior by teachers, churches made calls early yesterday asking parishioners to pray for his family, a well-known clan with French-Canadian roots whose Sunday night dinners each week rank on the order of Thanksgiving feasts. Many of Aubin's relatives still live in Skowhegan, while his mother lives in the nearby town of Winslow.

Paula Dore said Aubin's aunt, a co-worker, had been talking about her nephew all week, saying she was so proud of him being overseas.

''Your heart breaks when you hear about the casualties,'' Dore said. ''But when it is one of you hometown boys, it is unbelievable.''

Word of the fatal crash reached Aubin's family first through morbid guesswork. They saw news reports on television of a downed helicopter in Kuwait, the type they knew Aubin flew.

''We were like, `What are the odds?''' said his aunt, Lynn Aubuchon of Madison, a neighboring town. ''But it was his.''

Family members describe Aubin, the eldest of three boys whose cheeks dimpled deeply when he smiled, as a straight arrow, the sort who never drank or smoked, who pursued a plan seemingly mapped from birth.

''He loved aviation,'' said his father, Thomas Aubin, who piloted planes out of Greenville, ferrying forestry workers to remote spots. He often strapped his son into the seat beside him from the time the boy was 2.

He recalled his son sitting on the tires of airplanes he was trying to sell, just 4 or 5 years old, doing little good for the cause as he ticked off the planes' problems to potential buyers.

''I had to tell him, `Don't tell them everything that's wrong with the airplane,''' said Aubin, who moved with his wife to Bangs, about 75 miles south of Abilene, a few years back. ''He knew about as much about planes as any guy many times his age.''

When Jay Aubin graduated from high school in Skowhegan, he wanted to go to college, but money was short and the military beckoned.

He enlisted in the Marines and served four years, based in California, where he worked as a helicopter mechanic. There he met his wife, Rhonda, a fellow Marine. The pair had two children, Alecia, who is 10, and Nathan, 7.

Aubin returned to Maine for school, graduating from Southern Maine Technical College in South Portland with an associate's degree in machine tool technology, then earning his bachelor's degree from the University of Southern Maine in Portland in 1993.

At the end of schooling, without hesitation, he reenlisted in the Marines, this time as an officer headed to flight school in Pensacola, Fla., family members said.

''He was so delighted,'' said his uncle, Peter Willette. ''When he left the Marines to go to school, he was so lost. Being in the military was a dream that he stepped into with open arms.''

Aubin would go on to serve in Japan, flying helicopters into East Timor during the political unrest there, his father said. He came home to Maine this past summer and spent several weeks with his family before moving West to train pilots in Yuma, Ariz.

Shortly before shipping out to Kuwait earlier this year, Aubin told family members that he'd been tapped to pilot the helicopter used by President Bush.

But first, he said, there was another mission he had been called to answer.

''He said it was real important, and he had to go,'' said Willette. ''He was ready and energized. He said it was something that had to be done.''

Globe correspondent Meadow Rue Merrill contributed to this report.

10 posted on 03/22/2003 12:03:36 PM PST by Diddle E. Squat
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To: Diddle E. Squat
You are welcome.

NotJustAnotherPrettyFace posted this on another thread earlier

Capt. Ryan Anthony Beaupre, 30, of St. Anne, Ill., and Cpl. Brian Matthew Kennedy, 25, a Glenview native living in Houston, were among the 12 American and British troops killed Thursday in a military helicopter crash in Kuwait about nine miles from the Iraqi border.

When the family dog began barking before dawn Friday, Mark Beaupre, Ryan Beaupre's father, said he knew his oldest son was dead. A delegation of Marines at his door confirmed his fear.

St. Anne, IL is a small town (around pop. 1200) near Kankakee - about 30 miles south of Chicago. Glenview, IL is a northern suburb of Chicago and is about 10 miles NNE of O'Hare Airport.

These men will be missed. They served their country with honor.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/871902/posts
11 posted on 03/22/2003 12:04:48 PM PST by amom (!SHAKANA!)
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To: TEXOKIE; Alamo-Girl; Yellow Rose of Texas
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12 posted on 03/22/2003 12:05:43 PM PST by amom (!SHAKANA!)
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To: Diddle E. Squat
Correction to post #7, which has the wrong picture.

Cpl. Brian Kennedy

13 posted on 03/22/2003 12:10:03 PM PST by Diddle E. Squat
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To: Diddle E. Squat; *war_list; W.O.T.; 11th_VA; Libertarianize the GOP; Free the USA; knak; MadIvan; ..
OFFICIAL BUMP(TOPIC)LIST
14 posted on 03/22/2003 12:10:52 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Where is Saddam?)
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BREAKING ON FOX: 4 3ID Soldiers Not Dead: But Wounded
Posted on 03/22/2003 12:05 PM PST by Gamecock
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/872408/posts
15 posted on 03/22/2003 12:17:01 PM PST by amom
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To: Diddle E. Squat
It was Jay Aubin's mother who called into NBC yesterday and was interviewed by Tom Brokaw. Few who saw it will forget it.


http://www.oregonlive.com/living/oregonian/peter_carlin/index.ssf?/base/living/1048164908318790.xml

On NBC, anchor Tom Brokaw spoke on the telephone to Nancy Chamberlin of Winslow, Maine. Her son, Marine Capt. Jay Aubin, was one of the first American soldiers to die in the conflict.

Brokaw greeted her gently, telling her how hard it must be on this, the darkest day of her life. She thanked him, sounding sad but remarkably composed. Her strength, it seemed, did something to Brokaw.

"The country deserves to know about Jay," he said, his voice starting to fray.

So she spoke, recalling how she couldn't afford to send her son to college, so he signed up for the Marines and fell in love with the service. "When he left he reminded me that . . . if he died he would die doing what he absolutely loved and believed in."

Brokaw was sitting with four of NBC's military analysts, a star-spangled array of retired generals and admirals. They're tough guys, accustomed to talking about war in terms of strategy, ordnance and duty. But the words of this woman, her courage in the face of tragedy, shattered their steel. Or maybe it just revealed their molten core.

Gen. Barry McCaffrey wept openly, dabbing his eyes with a handkerchief. Lt. Gen. Michael Short, on the other side of the desk, also cried, while Adm. Dennis McGinn stared grimly forward, his eyes dark and pained.

Speaking directly to Brokaw, Chamberlin said she admired all he and his TV news colleagues were doing to bring news of the war home to America.

"But for mothers and wives it's murder," she said. "It's heartbreak. We can't leave the TV, because with every tank and every helicopter, you're thinking: Is that my son?"

Was she criticizing the blanket coverage? Or just expressing the helplessness of being half a world away from a child in mortal danger? It wasn't clear. It didn't matter.

"I just need you to be aware that . . . there are moms, dads and wives out there suffering because of this. That's all. That's why I'm doing this."

After she hung up, Brokaw and his team of military brass tried to compose themselves. When he could speak again, Brokaw looked into the camera and spoke directly to his audience.

"Just because you don't have someone directly involved doesn't mean you're not involved," he said. "No matter how you feel about how we got involved in this war, we all have obligations to each other."

16 posted on 03/22/2003 12:17:23 PM PST by Diddle E. Squat
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To: amom
Thanks for the good news. I believe that report is in reference to the 4 soldiers(not identified) reported killed in S. Central Iraq this morning.
17 posted on 03/22/2003 12:18:59 PM PST by Diddle E. Squat
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To: Diddle E. Squat
How about including all coalition casualties ?

8 Brits aboard the Royal Navy's UH 46 Sea Knight

2 US Marines KIA ground casualties (separate engagements)

1 US Naval Officer presumed KIA, aboard the lost Royal Navy's helicopter (crashed into second UK helo), 6 Brits perish, all lost at sea

1 US soldier with the 3RD Inf Div KIA

4 US armed forces personnel KIA, aboard Humvees hit by RPG's

____________________________________________________________

I'll see if I can locate the names and other pertinent details regarding these OIF combat casualties.


19 posted on 03/22/2003 12:24:55 PM PST by freepersup (find the enemy... destroy the enemy... remain vigilant)
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To: freepersup
per post # 15, 4 US personnel reported KIA, now reported as wounded,

repeat, 4 US personnel wounded, not KIA
20 posted on 03/22/2003 12:28:38 PM PST by freepersup (find the enemy... destroy the enemy... remain vigilant)
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To: Diddle E. Squat
Heros all.

I am truly saddened by the loss of these heros. I won't forget them.

21 posted on 03/22/2003 12:28:44 PM PST by LibKill (The UN is of less use than dog doo in the gutter.)
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To: freepersup
Yes, am waiting for more names to be released. Please post when found.
22 posted on 03/22/2003 12:29:04 PM PST by Diddle E. Squat
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To: Diddle E. Squat
These are those we should honor, not the "journalists" sucking on the war for their big story!

A moment of silence for their "Last Roll Call"!

23 posted on 03/22/2003 12:33:48 PM PST by Redleg Duke (Stir the pot...don't let anything settle to the bottom where the lawyers can feed off of it!)
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http://www.hoinews.com/news/headlines/267881.html

College Mourns Local War Hero
Staci Bivens

One of the first American casualties of the war with Iraq is a young pilot from Illinois.
Marine Captain Ryan Beaupre graduated from Illinois Wesleyan University in 1995.
Beaupre was a numbers guy...who majored in accounting and loved to fly.
People who knew Beaupre describe him as a quiet leader who devoted his life to helping others.

Wesleyan faculty says he wasn't flashy...but as a student and a person...he inspired others... Leading by example.

“He was a very smart individual that you wanted on your side. And, when you think about who you want to protect your country, if you could put a face on that it Ryan Beaupre,” says Ann Harding Assistant Director of Illinois Wesleyan’s Career Center.
Beaupre worked in her office for two years…helping students prepare for the workforce.

“He was someone whose company you'd seek…a pleasant guy.. One who inspirers confidence and a real leader. And, I can see why the marines would want him,” tearfully explains Beaupre’s former advisor Jack Fields.

At the age of thirty Ryan Beaupre put his life on the line for his country...and his death put a local face on a war so far away.

“It changes you're perspective,” says the marine’s former accounting professor Jerry Olson. I have an 8 month-old baby daughter, and the first thing I did when I got home was hug her. Because, I can't imagine what Ryan's family is going through. It has to be devastating to them.

Ryan died after his helicopter crashed in Kuwait Thursday...now friends left behind are comforted by memories of him.

“He had a great smile. I think if you talked to other people about him, the smile is one thing and the red hair are the things you remember when you think about Ryan,” remembers Harding.

The marine captain grew up in St. Anne some 70 miles from the Twin Cities
He attended he went to school in the area and worked at state farm insurance before deciding to join the marines....

Now Beaupre will be remembered as a hero

“What I have read said he had accomplished their mission and that these men had not died in vain because they were coming home from their mission and had carried what they were supposed to do, so yes I believe they are all heroes,” says Olson.

Ryan leaves behind his parents and younger brother and sister.

Before shipping off to war…Beaupre told his sister that he wasn't afraid...that he was doing what he felt he needed to do.

Ryan Beaupre of St. Anne died a local hero at age 30.

24 posted on 03/22/2003 12:35:20 PM PST by Diddle E. Squat
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http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/metropolitan/1830715

Spring Branch family mourning death of Marine son in accident
By DALE LEZON
Copyright 2003 Houston Chronicle


The Houston father of a U.S. Marine killed in a helicopter crash in Kuwait said his son had been a high school football player and honor student who later developed a passion to serve his country.

Cpl. Brian Matthew Kennedy, 25, died along with three other U.S. Marines and eight British Marines when their CH-46 Sea Knight helicopter crashed Thursday about nine miles south of the Iraqi border town of Umm Qasr. Military officials said no hostile fire was reported in the area.

Kennedy's father, Mark D. Kennedy, said his son was proud to fight for Iraq's freedom.

"All he ever said was that it was his duty and he was looking forward to serving," Mark Kennedy said.

The Kennedy's Spring Branch-area home was somber Friday night. Mark Kennedy, his wife, Valerie, his daughter, Gretchen Helgeson, 28, and her husband, Brett Helgeson, 29, hugged one another.

They stared quietly at a photograph taken of Brian Kennedy in his Marine dress uniform.

"He was a very brave young man," said his stepmother, Valerie Kennedy.

Mark Kennedy said the military told him that the exact cause of the crash had not been determined, but that hostile fire was not suspected.

He said his son had been trained as a mechanic and was crew chief on the helicopter.

"Our son and brother proudly volunteered to serve in the United States Marine Corps," Mark Kennedy said in a prepared statement. "He gave his life in a effort to contribute to the freedom of the Iraqi people. We are so very proud of him and of his service to his country."

Mark Kennedy said his son grew up in Glenview, Ill. He was a starting guard on the football team at Glenbrook South High School and helped the team reach the conference championship game as a junior. He graduated from high school in 1995 and enrolled at Purdue University, where he studied mechanical engineering and played lacrosse.

In about 1997, he transferred to Texas Tech University and continued to study mechanical engineering. But his calling was to be a U.S. Marine, he told his father. A fellow student who had been a Marine became an inspiration to him, his father said. He left college and enlisted in 1999.

"He was very excited about it," he said.

Brian Kennedy was stationed at Camp Pendleton, a Marine base in Southern California near San Diego, his father said.

In addition to his father and sister, he is survived by his mother, Melissa Derbyshire, of Port Clyde, Maine. Derbyshire could not be reached for comment Friday night.

Mark Kennedy said he was uncertain when funeral services would be held.

25 posted on 03/22/2003 12:38:03 PM PST by Diddle E. Squat
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To: Diddle E. Squat

AP Photo/Family photo via Portland Press Herald Marine Cpl. Brian Matthew Kennedy

AP Photo/Family Photo via Morning Sentinel U.S. Marine Corps Capt. Jay Thomas Aubin

AP Photo/The Baltimore Sun U.S. Marine Staff Sgt. Kendall Damon Waters-Bey

AP Photo/Beuapre Family Photo Marine pilot Ryan Beaupre

26 posted on 03/22/2003 12:39:35 PM PST by freepersup (find the enemy... destroy the enemy... remain vigilant)
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To: Diddle E. Squat
http://www.sunspot.net/news/nationworld/iraq/bal-marinekilled0321,0,6468866.story?coll=bal-home-headlines

Baltimore man among those killed in Iraq

Kendall D. Waters-Bey was crew chief of chopper that crashed in desert

By Eric Siegel and Reginald Fields
Sun Staff
Originally published March 21, 2003, 11:20 PM EST



One of the first U.S. casualties of the Iraqi war was a 29-year- old Marine from Northeast Baltimore who joined the corps out of high school and leaves behind a wife and young son and a grieving family that mourns his loss while questioning the necessity of the conflict.

Staff Sgt. Kendall D. Waters-Bey, who grew up not far from Herring Run Park and attended Northern and Harbor City high schools, was among 12 servicemen -- eight British commandos and four U.S. Marines -- who died Thursday night when their helicopter crashed and burned about nine miles south of Umm Qasr, an Iraqi town near the Kuwait border.

"Man, I'm devastated," said Michael Waters-Bey, the Marine's father, who received the news every parent of a serviceman at war dreads, about 3 a.m. Friday. "He was my only son, my oldest child."

"I couldn't believe it until the Marines came to my door" to offer condolences early Friday afternoon, he said.

Michelle Waters, the oldest of the dead Marine's four sisters, criticized the U.S. government for starting the hostilities.

"It's all for nothing, that war could have been prevented," she said Friday night in the living room of the family home, tears running down her cheeks. "Now, we're out of a brother. [President] Bush is not out of a brother. We are."

Based at Camp Pendleton in California, Waters-Bey had taken his 10-year-old son, Kenneth, to live with him in San Diego last Thanksgiving. But he sent Kenneth back to Baltimore to live with the boy's mother when he received his orders to go to Kuwait in February.

The boy said that after moving to California his father took him to a gun range, showed him around the military base and played ball with him.

"I'm feeling sad now because my father is gone and I won't see him again," said Kenneth, who is in the fifth grade at Halstead Academy in Hillendale, Baltimore County.

Waters-Bey was the crew chief of the CH-46 Sea Knight, a bus- like helicopter with twin rotors used to fly troops to forward positions. The model is a Vietnam War-era aircraft that has been beset in recent years by mechanical difficulties.

Reports of the age and troubled history of helicopters like the one Waters-Bey was flying in when it crashed -- apparently by accident -- bothered his father. "The U.S. government owes me an explanation," Michael Waters-Bey said.

Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld and a Marine spokesman issued statements of condolences Friday, as did Maryland Gov. Robert L. Ehrlich Jr. and Baltimore Mayor Martin O'Malley.

O'Malley, who called the Waters-Bey family early Friday evening, ordered flags at city buildings to fly at half staff in Waters-Bey's honor.

"On behalf of the citizens of Baltimore, I extend my heartfelt condolences to his family, many friends and all who have been touched by his life and untimely death," the mayor's statement said.

The other U.S. Marines killed in Thursday's crash were Maj. Jay Thomas Aubin, 36, of Waterville, Maine; Capt. Ryan Anthony Beaupre, 30, of Bloomington, Ill., and Cpl. Brian Matthew Kennedy, 25, of Houston.

Tawanda Poteat, Kenneth's mother and Waters-Bey's first wife, was pregnant when Waters-Bey decided to join the Marines.

"He said he wanted to get away from being on the streets," Michael Waters-Bey said. "He wanted to do something positive to take care of his son."

A steady stream of friends called and stopped by the family's modest rowhouse Friday, many weeping openly, others holding back tears.

"Neighbors are taking it like family members. That's how good a person he was," Michael Waters-Bey said.

One neighbor, Darrell Holland, described Waters-Bey as "the nicest person you'd ever want to meet."

"The smile on his face tells you everything," Holland said. "You couldn't get a better brother, cousin or son."

At 6-feet-1 and over 200 pounds, family members said, Waters-Bey, whom they called Kenny, was an excellent swimmer who loved to barbecue ribs and make people laugh.

"He was always making jokes," said another sister, Shernell Waters-Bey. "He would cut up. He'd make funny faces. He'd walk funny."

Shernell Waters-Bey said she last talked to her brother before he left for Kuwait in early February.

"He said, 'Nellie, I love you. I'll see you when I get back,'" she recalled.

She said she was working the night shift at the Rite Aid warehouse in Harford County when a co-worker told her a helicopter had crashed and four U.S. servicemen had been killed.

"I wasn't thinking too much of it," she said. "Out of four people, I wouldn't ever imagine in my wildest dreams one of them would be my brother."

She learned of her brother's death when she arrived at the family home after getting off work and her mother, Angela Waters-Bey, was on the phone.

"I got to get off and tell Nellie," she heard her mother say.

"Tell Nellie what?" she asked.

"Kenny's gone," her mother said.

Poteat, Waters-Bey's first wife, said she had more of a premonition when she heard about the crash on television, even before the names of those killed were released.

That's because on Thursday, she and young Kenneth seemed to talk more than usual about Waters-Bey. Poteat had agreed she was going to try to get a computer for her son so that he could send e-mails to his father in the Iraqi desert.

"It was really odd for us to talk so much about his father on any day like we did that day," Poteat said. "Then when I heard about the crash, I just got a really bad feeling, like that's why his father was on his mind so much."

Waters-Bey is also survived by his wife, Belinda Waters-Bey of San Diego, Calif., and two other sisters, Sharita Waters-Bey and Nakia Waters, both of Baltimore.

Family members said they were told that Waters-Bey's body would be flown first to Germany and then to California. Funeral arrangements were pending.

Sun staff writers Lane Harvey Brown, Doug Donovan and Tanika White and wire services contributed to this article.
27 posted on 03/22/2003 12:42:39 PM PST by Diddle E. Squat
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To: Diddle E. Squat
U.S. officials did not immediately identify the two Marines killed in combat; both were members of the U.S. 1st Marine Expeditionary Force.
28 posted on 03/22/2003 12:45:52 PM PST by freepersup (find the enemy... destroy the enemy... remain vigilant)
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To: Diddle E. Squat
The United States and Britain suffered their first casualties as they pushed into Iraq, with two U.S. Marines killed in combat and another dozen American and British Marines dying in a helicopter crash that appeared to be accidental.

A U.S. Marine was the first to die in action. His company was advancing on a burning oil pump station when he was shot in the stomach, a comrade said. President Bush was informed of the death early Friday and expressed his regrets.

He was from the U.S. 1st Marine Expeditionary Force, said Lt. Col. Neal Peckham, a British military spokesman in Kuwait. He died in the sweep on the Rumeila oil field in southern Iraq, where acrid smoke blackened the sky.
U.S. Central Command gave no other details.

The second Marine, also from the 1st Marine Expeditionary Force, died Friday at about 4 p.m. while fighting enemy Iraqi forces near Umm Qasr, a strategic port which came under allied control Friday.
29 posted on 03/22/2003 12:49:46 PM PST by freepersup (find the enemy... destroy the enemy... remain vigilant)
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To: Diddle E. Squat
--2nd Lt. Therrel S. Childers, 30, of Harrison, Miss.

--Lance Cpl. Jose Gutierrez, 22, of Los Angeles.




http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&cid=564&ncid=716&e=12&u=/nm/20030322/ts_nm/iraq_usa_marines_dc

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The Defense Department on Saturday identified two U.S. Marines killed in action in Iraq on Friday as a lieutenant from Mississippi and a lance corporal from California.

The Pentagon said 2nd Lt. Therrel Childers, 30, of Harrison, Miss., was assigned to the 5th Regiment of the 1st Marine Division based at Camp Pendleton, Calif.

Lance Cpl. Jose Gutierrez, 22, of Los Angeles, was assigned to the 1st Regiment of the 1st Marine Division at Camp Pendleton

30 posted on 03/22/2003 12:50:26 PM PST by Diddle E. Squat
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To: Diddle E. Squat
Could we add the names of all of the fallen heroes. I don't feel right excluding the names of the Brits and the Aussie. They are no less heroes because the were born someplace other than USA. I hope we can get all of the names and I hope God brings peace to all of the families affected. God bles the USA, God bless the liberators of Iraq and God Bless President Bush.
31 posted on 03/22/2003 12:57:41 PM PST by Diva Betsy Ross ((no more movies anymore))
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To: No More Gore Anymore
Seven crew members are feared dead after two Royal Navy Sea King early warning helicopters were today involved in a mid-air collision over international waters in the Gulf, UK Central Command in Qatar said. The Sea Kings went down at around 4.30am local time (1.30am UK time).

Westcountry crews from the Royal Navy base at Culdrose are currently serving in the Gulf. The camp, in Cornwall, has a fleet of Sea King helicopters. It is not known where the crashed aircraft were based.

Yesterday eight Royal Marines from the Plymouth-based 3 Commando Brigade and four Americans died when their helicopter crashed in Kuwait.
32 posted on 03/22/2003 12:59:49 PM PST by freepersup (find the enemy... destroy the enemy... remain vigilant)
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To: No More Gore Anymore
Sorry, not trying to exclude anyone, it is just I haven't yet found their names. Will post as soon as I can.

If anyone finds their names or pictures, please post.

33 posted on 03/22/2003 1:13:18 PM PST by Diddle E. Squat
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To: Diddle E. Squat
Oh, I am sorry I did not mean that you were trying to do anything wrong. I should have re-read for tone before I posted. This thread was a good idea.
34 posted on 03/22/2003 1:57:30 PM PST by Diva Betsy Ross ((no more movies anymore))
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To: Diddle E. Squat
Reporting- per ABC radio news- now identifying KIA aboard UK Royal Navy's Sea King helo that crashed into another UK Sea King helo over water, presumed lost at sea, as: US Naval Officer- Lt. Thomas Mullen Adams, age 27, La Mesa, Ca.,
35 posted on 03/22/2003 2:11:15 PM PST by freepersup (find the enemy... destroy the enemy... remain vigilant)
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To: No More Gore Anymore
No problem, I understood your point the first time, and it is a good one. The British press should be sending out Sunday stories within the next few hours.

So far I have a count of 7 Americans, all identified here, and 14 British(2 accidents involving 3 copters total). Let's hope that the count doesn't rise.
36 posted on 03/22/2003 2:28:03 PM PST by Diddle E. Squat
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To: Diddle E. Squat
believe that report is in reference to the 4 soldiers(not identified) reported killed in S. Central Iraq this morning.

Oh. OK thanks for the clarification.

37 posted on 03/22/2003 2:28:11 PM PST by amom
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To: Diddle E. Squat
Let's hope that the count doesn't rise.

I'm with you on that one.

38 posted on 03/22/2003 2:31:29 PM PST by amom
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To: freepersup
DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE IDENTIFIES AMERICAN OFFICER KILLED IN ROYAL NAVY HELICOPTER COLLISION

The Department of Defense announced today the identity of the American officer killed when two Royal Navy Sea King helicopters collided over international waters March 22. Killed was Navy Lt. Thomas Mullen Adams, 27, of La Mesa, Calif.

Adams had been assigned as an exchange officer with the Royal Navy's 849 Squadron since October 2002. The squadron's detachment is currently embarked on the Royal Navy aircraft carrier HMS Ark Royal.
39 posted on 03/22/2003 3:44:44 PM PST by freepersup (find the enemy... destroy the enemy... remain vigilant)
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To: Diddle E. Squat
Let's update this thread as names are released. Their ultimate sacrifice for others and in service of our country should not be forgotten. We will forever be in debt to them, and lift prayers for comfort for their families on their loss.

I salute, and grieve for those who made the ultimate sacrifice. Lest we forget.

40 posted on 03/22/2003 4:07:25 PM PST by mrustow
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http://www.nytimes.com/2003/03/23/international/worldspecial/23CASU.html?ex=1049000400&en=a611f5b8b1d4a40e&ei=5062&partner=GOOGLE

Portraits Are Emerging of 2 Marines Killed in Iraq
By DAVID W. CHEN


Therrel S. Childers, it seemed, was always on the move.

As a child, he moved around the world with his father, Joseph, who was a Navy Seabee. At times, the experience was harrowing: he lived in Tehran during the American hostage crisis, but his family managed to get out.

As a young man, he enlisted in the Marines, and did so well that the Marine Corps sent him to the Citadel, where he made the dean's list. But whenever he visited his parents in Wyoming, he could not sit still, either: he was always training for marathons, it seemed, or doing 100-mile bicycle rides, or camping and hiking in the snow, or running up steep hills.

As a marine, he lived an itinerant life, too, with a passport that would have been the envy of National Geographic. He fought in the Persian Gulf, during Desert Storm. He spent time in Africa, in Geneva, and most recently, in southern Iraq.

On Friday, Second Lt. Therrel S. Childers, 30, was one of two marines who were killed in Iraq, both of whom were assigned to Camp Pendleton in California. The other Marine who died was Lance Cpl. Jose Gutierrez. As of yesterday afternoon, little information was available about Corporal Gutierrez, other than the fact that he was 22, originally from Los Angeles, and was assigned to the 2nd battalion, of the 1st Marine Regiment, 1st Marine Division.

But by early afternoon, a clearer portrait was emerging of Lieutenant Childers from friends and relatives, who called him Shane, his middle name, and spoke in unison about how decent and generous and capable he was.

Lieutenant Childers was the middle of three children in a family with deep, and proud, military roots. In addition to his father, who served in Vietnam, Lieutenant Childers's younger brother, Sam, served in the military, as did their grandfather, said John Van Valin, a close friend and neighbor of the family.

A cousin that Lieutenant Childers was close to may now be aboard an aircraft carrier near the Korean peninsula, said Jackie Brown, who is the mother-in-law of Lieutenant Childers's sister, Sandra. And Sandra's husband, Richard Brown, is in the Army. In fact, he is now at Fort Hood, in Texas, and is scheduled to be deployed to the Iraq region any day, according to Ms. Brown.

According to the Department of Defense, Lieutenant Childers's hometown was Harrison County, Miss. And while he graduated from high school there, according to family and friends, it is not clear how much time he spent there, or what kind of attachment he had to that place.

There were many places around the world that the Childers family called home, but there were probably few years more trying than the ones they spent in Iran.

During the turbulent time of the shah's last days in power, Lieutenant Childers's father was initially taken captive by Iranian militants, according to Mr. Van Valin, but then released. And whenever the children ventured outside, their mother had to change their appearances.

"The boys were blond-headed, so she had to dye their hair," he said.

Neither Ms. Brown nor Mr. Van Valin was sure of what Lieutenant Childers specialized in as a marine. But Mr. Van Valin said that he did serve as a marine security guard at one point.

Lieutenant Childers was single. And he loved to exercise. He was an accomplished runner, competing in several races around the country. He had climbed Mount Hood, in Oregon, with some marine buddies. When he visited his parents, in Powell, Wyo., he like to keep fit by running up a steep hill that local residents called "the Bench."

"For a normal guy like me, it would be torture," said Mr. Van Valin. "But it was fun to him."

Lieutenant Childers had his flair for renaissance living, too. He loved to read, particularly anything on the history of the Marine Corps. He also wanted to train horses someday, not for rodeos or racing, but just as all-purpose animals that could be used on rugged trails.

Then there was the cooking. One time, Mr. Van Valin said, Lieutenant Childers prepared an unusual dinner: goose.

"He had his cookbooks out, and how he prepared this thing, I don't know," Mr. Van Valin said. "But it was excellent. I've eaten goose before, and it didn't thrill me, but this was excellent."


41 posted on 03/22/2003 4:58:37 PM PST by Diddle E. Squat
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To: Diddle E. Squat
Helicopter crash

Maj. Jay Thomas Aubin, 36, of Waterville, Maine.
Capt. Ryan Anthony Beaupre, 30, of Bloomington, Ill.
Cpl. Brian Matthew Kennedy, 25, of Houston, Texas.
Staff Sgt. Kendall Damon Watersbey, 29, of Baltimore, Md.

Hostile fire

2nd Lt. Therrel S. Childers, 30, of Harrison, Miss.

Lance Cpl. Jose Gutierrez, 22, of Los Angeles.

Helicopter collision

Navy Lt. Thomas Mullen Adams, 27, of La Mesa, Calif.

42 posted on 03/22/2003 8:08:21 PM PST by freepersup (find the enemy... destroy the enemy... remain vigilant)
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To: Diddle E. Squat
All humanity is of one Author, and is one volume; when one dies, one chapter is not torn out of the book, but translated into a better language; and every chapter must be so translated; God employs several translators; some pieces are translated by age, some by sickness, some by war, some by justice; but God’s hand is in every translation, and his hand shall bind up all our scattered leaves again for that library where every book shall lie open to one another.

-- JOHN DONNE (1572–1631)
43 posted on 03/22/2003 8:15:38 PM PST by Samwise (prayers for our troops)
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To: Diddle E. Squat
Reporting- ABC radio news- one US Army soldier from the 101st ABN DIV- attacked by US soldier- now being reported as killed (murdered)- attacker in custody
44 posted on 03/22/2003 9:23:51 PM PST by freepersup (find the enemy... destroy the enemy... remain vigilant)
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To: freepersup
Have you found any articles with the British names? Sunday London papers are out, but still nothing coming up in Google News.

Hopefully there will be hometown articles on Thomas Adams and Jose Gutierrez(almost no info so far) with pictures in the morning.

Thanks for your contributions.
45 posted on 03/22/2003 9:28:37 PM PST by Diddle E. Squat
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To: Diddle E. Squat
Reporting- ABC radio news- US casualty- Humvee accident resulting in death of soldier near Al Nasira (sic ?)
46 posted on 03/22/2003 10:42:31 PM PST by freepersup (find the enemy... destroy the enemy... remain vigilant)
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To: Diddle E. Squat
Did some searching at the BBC news website. No luck in finding names of any UK KIA.
47 posted on 03/22/2003 10:56:50 PM PST by freepersup (find the enemy... destroy the enemy... remain vigilant)
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To: Diddle E. Squat
Ryan Beaupre of St. Anne died a local hero at age 30.

I saw a short report on TV about Beaupre's home and family.
They said that he'd written three letters home since being deployed...but had not
phoned home.
He explained in his letters that the waiting lines for the phones were long and
that the phone calls should go to the troops who had "spouses and children to talk
to back home".

Sounds like the military truly lost an "Officer And A Gentleman".
48 posted on 03/22/2003 11:08:45 PM PST by VOA
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To: No More Gore Anymore
Could we add the names of all of the fallen heroes. I don't feel right excluding
the names of the Brits and the Aussie.


This was the first thing that came to mind after I heard about the loss
of the 4 US and 8 UK personnel in the helicopter crash.

From this day to the ending of the world
But we in it shall be remembered,
We few, we happy few, we band of brothers.
For he today that sheds his blood with me
Shall be my brother
; be he ne'er so vile,
This day shall gentle his condition.
And gentlemen in England FRANCE now abed
Shall think themselves accursed they were not here


(apologies to The Bard...)
49 posted on 03/22/2003 11:21:18 PM PST by VOA
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To: VOA
Having a bit of difficulty in locating UK casualties (by name)- by all means locate them and post them here
50 posted on 03/23/2003 12:26:54 AM PST by freepersup (find the enemy... destroy the enemy... remain vigilant)
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