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IRAQI SOLDIER CAPTURED WITH ANTHRAX & INSTRUCTIONS HOW TO KILL COALITION SOLDIERS
MSNBC | 3/2203 | Bob Arnot

Posted on 03/22/2003 12:14:16 PM PST by Steven W.

Breaking: Bob Arnot of NBC News reports coalition forces have captured an Iraqi soldier who was found to have an envelope with a suspicious powder, presumably anthrax, and instructions on how to kill coalition soldiers using it. Arnot is stationed with the medivac units supporting coalition forces.


TOPICS: Anthrax Scare; Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: anthrax; arnot; bioterrorism; biowarfare; blix; bobarnot; embeddedreport; frenchgerman; hansblix; illegalweapons; iraq; iraqanthrax; un; warlist; wmd
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To: American Soldier
UH OH! If this pans out, . . .

The Iraqis and their comforters will merely claim the envelope was planted on the soldier by US forces.

251 posted on 03/22/2003 1:15:21 PM PST by Kevin Curry
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To: 69ConvertibleFirebird
I believe I heard Tommy Franks on Fox about 15 minutes ago saying there is NO DOUBT that Iraq has WMD and they will find them and those who are guarding them.

He was very strong in saying there was NO Doubt. This must be an issue in many quarters today.

252 posted on 03/22/2003 1:15:24 PM PST by what's up
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To: aristeides
It won't surprise me if we hear nothing further about this report. And that won't necessarily be because the report is false.

Yep. If the military feels it shouldn't be reported right now, I'll support them.
If it's not real anthrax, that's even better.

253 posted on 03/22/2003 1:15:45 PM PST by concerned about politics (Anti-American protestors are inbread liberal Notsosmartso's.)
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To: EaglesUpForever
Is it too much to wait for confirmation of test results?
254 posted on 03/22/2003 1:16:05 PM PST by gabby hayes
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To: laz17
"Fair-minded" people probably won't assume that we are planting and faking these things. The people who believe that we would manufacture evidence in their knee-jerk manner will never be convinced anyway. IMHO.
255 posted on 03/22/2003 1:16:09 PM PST by wolf24
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To: wastoute
Harder for the appeasers to be believed we planted anything when embedded journalists are swarming around. They'll claim it but only the far left Hate America First crowd will believe it - because they want to believe it.
256 posted on 03/22/2003 1:16:22 PM PST by Peach
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To: BRL
I accept your apology. We are all on edge right now.
257 posted on 03/22/2003 1:16:53 PM PST by EllaMinnow (``No Saddam Hussein!'' one young man in headscarf told Gurfein. ``Bush!'')
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To: Schweet_Creeping_Zombie_Jesus
i dont know who planted it, i just think a package is a crummy way to distribute anthrax in the middle of a war.

Burning oil to obscure bombing targets with smoke when we have JDAMS is equally stupid. Don't give them too much credit if it isn't deserved.

We'll just have to wait for the verification or possibly an associated replicant. If there was one guy like this, there should be more.

258 posted on 03/22/2003 1:17:07 PM PST by Carry_Okie (Because there are people in power who are truly evil.)
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To: Schweet_Creeping_Zombie_Jesus
"and wouldn't the instructions be likely to say "destroy these instructions after you read them" saddam doesn't want people to know he has WMD"

First off, everyone who is actually in a position to know already knows (excluding Hans Blix, because having your head up your as does not qualify as a 'position to know'). Secondly, if our troops are attacked with antrax, we'll know who was responsible anyway.
260 posted on 03/22/2003 1:17:36 PM PST by Sofa King (-I am Sofa King- tired of liberal BS!)
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To: cyncooper
Here.
261 posted on 03/22/2003 1:17:43 PM PST by EllaMinnow (``No Saddam Hussein!'' one young man in headscarf told Gurfein. ``Bush!'')
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To: delacoert
If whatever he was carrying was in an "envelope", then it wasn't anthrax. This is bull.

Yeah who's ever heard of envelopes full of anthrax?

262 posted on 03/22/2003 1:17:56 PM PST by MattAMiller
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To: Joe Republc
Here's some proof for your brother.

Ping!

263 posted on 03/22/2003 1:18:05 PM PST by demlosers
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To: Sofa King
typo in previous post; as=ass
264 posted on 03/22/2003 1:18:06 PM PST by Sofa King (-I am Sofa King- tired of liberal BS!)
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To: razorback-bert
Who is that woman wearing pink,grey and brown jacket, I getting sick looking at it?

OMG. I saw that outfit. It's horrid! Even my husband said "look at that woman." He even noticed how awful it was. LOL

265 posted on 03/22/2003 1:18:41 PM PST by concerned about politics (Anti-American protestors are inbread liberal Notsosmartso's.)
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To: BRL
Freepers on the Live thread listening to MSNBC heard Peter Arnette say the same thing. It's great to have a link, and in a perfect world we ask them them and get them. War isn't a perfect world and something Peter Arnette reports, on camera, before millions of people, especially about ANTHRAX IN IRAQ, is news. How do you link to his words on camera? It's up to MSNBC to decide what they put on their website and they've not gone with it yet. Doesn't mean this didn't happen - not when so many Freepers heard the same thing.
267 posted on 03/22/2003 1:19:56 PM PST by Peach
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To: Steven W.
URL?
268 posted on 03/22/2003 1:20:03 PM PST by Recovering_Democrat (I'm SO glad to no longer be associated with the Party of Dependence on Government.)
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To: delacoert
If whatever he was carrying was in an "envelope", then it wasn't anthrax. This is bull.

I don't know if the story's true or not, but carrying anthrax in an envelope wouldn't prove or disprove its authenticity.

True, it would expose the person carrying it to anthrax, but it may take a week or more to actually debilitate the carrier, by which time he could be expected to infect many. Considering how the Iraqi regime has total disregard for its troops' life or safety, it wouldn't be inconsistent for them to use them this way. An uneducated peasant might not even know that he was being set up, but he would certainly know that refusal to do it would mean summary execution. Not much of a choice.

269 posted on 03/22/2003 1:20:05 PM PST by browardchad
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To: Schweet_Creeping_Zombie_Jesus
So it is your supposition that at least one member of the US Armed Forces, and at least one other person who could speak "Arabic" conspired to create an envelope of Anthrax and instructions for using it. Since it would be QUITE difficult for a regular troop to get Anthrax, he would have to also have the help of higher ups in the chain of command with the power to get Anthrax, so we essectially need an organized military effort.

That leaves us in the position of deciding whether US troops are enacting an organized effort to plant evidence on Iraqi soldiers, or whether the Iraqi's actually DO have WMD's, as the US government has claimed for at least twelve years.

I have to say, the "planted evidence" theory is much more inlikely, and smacks of desperation not to be proven wrong.

270 posted on 03/22/2003 1:20:52 PM PST by ez (Advise and Consent = Debate and VOTE!!)
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To: Maeve; Quix
Ping!
271 posted on 03/22/2003 1:21:05 PM PST by Canticle_of_Deborah
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To: browardchad
The deliverer could also be immunized.
272 posted on 03/22/2003 1:21:09 PM PST by aristeides
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To: Jay D. Dyson
You give newbies a bad name.
273 posted on 03/22/2003 1:22:13 PM PST by Nita Nuprez
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To: Jay D. Dyson
This is a direct ping to myself and you. If this story is discredited, I'll expect your public apology.

Likewise, if this story is proven true, I will tender my public apology to you.

That said, I've lived through enough wars to know that the only thing that flies across the globe faster than a lie is a rumor. I do not believe my skepticism is unwarranted or wrong.

Your priggish attitude is unnecessary--and unseemly for someone as new here as you.

274 posted on 03/22/2003 1:22:59 PM PST by Petronski (I'm not always cranky.)
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To: RAT Patrol
Did our troops get Anthrax vacinnations?
275 posted on 03/22/2003 1:23:26 PM PST by alnick
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To: Jay D. Dyson
"That said, I've lived through enough wars to know that the only thing that flies across the globe faster than a lie is a rumor. I do not believe my skepticism is unwarranted or wrong."

I'd say that skepticism about conspiracy theories is more called for.
276 posted on 03/22/2003 1:24:23 PM PST by Sofa King (-I am Sofa King- tired of liberal BS!)
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To: Peach
What threw me for a loop, and why I got confused then angry is this:

Ewing posted the same info in a thread he started. He sourced the information by linking it to the MSNBC homepage. I (and another) spent some time searching that page (before I even knew about this thread) for the story. Nothing was there. I became suspect. I don't appreciate people making things up.
277 posted on 03/22/2003 1:24:32 PM PST by BRL
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To: alnick
Did our troops get Anthrax vacinnations?

I think I've read that they did.

278 posted on 03/22/2003 1:25:01 PM PST by aristeides
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To: BRL
OKAY - I'm over 200 posts through this thread - there's no new info - just a bunch of people arguing about something that's stupid to argue about. Cut it out - some people want actual news.
279 posted on 03/22/2003 1:25:15 PM PST by Peach
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To: Badabing Badaboom
One could also patch it out in the desert to be kicked up as dust by armored vehicles.

IMO, it's still a stupid choice of a bug for warfare, as the spores are persistent in soil and may dust up for years and spread by Bedouin livestock. Using it near Baghdad is really dumb unless you want to take your countrymen with you.
280 posted on 03/22/2003 1:26:44 PM PST by Carry_Okie (Because there are people in power who are truly evil.)
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To: Peach
just a bunch of people arguing about something that's stupid to argue about.

Give 'em hell, Peach! :-)

281 posted on 03/22/2003 1:26:50 PM PST by concerned about politics (Anti-American protestors are inbread liberal Notsosmartso's.)
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To: All
I'm not defending anyone but please - I GET IT. You've repeated it enough times everyone gets it. Let's move on. People should NOT have to read through such useless drivel tring to find if there's more information on this important topic. Let's all act like grown-ups.
282 posted on 03/22/2003 1:27:12 PM PST by Peach
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To: Peach
Nice of you to start a conversation with me and then tell me to cut it out.
283 posted on 03/22/2003 1:27:31 PM PST by BRL
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To: Steven W.
I am "deeply saddened" by this news.
284 posted on 03/22/2003 1:27:42 PM PST by cowtowney
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To: BRL
Ewing posted the same info in a thread he started. He sourced the information by linking it to the MSNBC homepage. I (and another) spent some time searching that page (before I even knew about this thread) for the story. Nothing was there. I became suspect. I don't appreciate people making things up.

The part you are missing is the fact that NOBODY MADE ANYTHING UP... All they did was post a link to the website of the NETWORK THAT AIRED THE REPORT... Get a grip...

285 posted on 03/22/2003 1:28:02 PM PST by Chad Fairbanks (FREE THE ARMADILLO FIVE!)
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To: alnick
Did our troops get Anthrax vacinnations?

I was under the impression they did.

286 posted on 03/22/2003 1:28:13 PM PST by RAT Patrol
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To: Steven W.
Wonder whether J Garofalo is getting a bit nervous. She promised to crawl on broken glass, etc.
287 posted on 03/22/2003 1:28:48 PM PST by TomGuy
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To: Peach
My wife and I have been talking about this for weeks. O'Reily has said that when the evidence is found he is going to "hold some people's feet to the fire", but those people have had their feet to the fire before and they haven't changed their minds one bit. The "Hate America" first crowd won't ever give up.
288 posted on 03/22/2003 1:29:23 PM PST by wastoute
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To: Carry_Okie
Tell me about it. I have an old friend on the Left Coast who is barraging me with emails reagrding his opposition to this war. The amount of half-truths, conspiracy theories, and pure propoganda is mind-boggling. It comes down to him simply taking a side and not willing to believe anything good from the US/Bush. Even as he braces for a successful liberation of Iraq, he concludes that will only be dumb luck.

Some people...
289 posted on 03/22/2003 1:29:26 PM PST by over3Owithabrain
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To: Carry_Okie
Their every move and involvement will carry implied entrapment with it.

Yes indeed. From this moment on, we should treat our former "allies" as if they had the plague and keep them at a distance. No more playing games, no more making nice in the interest of diplomacy. We are dealing with evil, and evil will kill you if you blink for an instant. Bush and Blair cannot afford to let ONE single Frenchman set foot on Iraqi soil and have the opportunity to seize or destroy evidence. No one belonging to any nation not a member of our coalition should come anywhere NEAR Iraq. So Chirac doesn't want the US and UK administering post-war Iraq? What are you gonna do about it, Jacques? Send troops? Go ahead, if you want to lose them. You're gonna find out we are NOT playing games.

And let me say something which just occurred to me. For weeks now, it's been apparent that part of the reason for Turkey's intransigence has been the meddling of Chirac. Has anyone considered that Chirac could actually go so far as to ask that Turkish troops going into northern Iraq to deal with Kurds also be on the lookout for evidence they can seize or destroy?

290 posted on 03/22/2003 1:29:49 PM PST by laz17 (Socialism is the religion of the atheist.)
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To: Canticle_of_Deborah
Reminds me of a prophecy on the other thread!

Thanks.
291 posted on 03/22/2003 1:29:54 PM PST by Quix (QUALITY RESRCH STDY BTWN BK WAR N PEACE VS BIBLE RE BIBLE CODES AT MAR BIBLECODESDIGEST.COM)
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To: Schweet_Creeping_Zombie_Jesus
and didn't somebody plant atta's wallet at the WTC site?

Yep, and what's more, the entire 9/11 terrorist attack was organized by Cheney using Israel's Mossad agents who installed remote-controlled auto-pilots on the jets. There were supposed to be only three (3) airliners attacking (WTC1, WTC2, Pentagon) but Bush insisted on a fourth plane to hit the White House while he was gone. GWB's eyes began roving after seeing all the young interns and Laura was getting on his nerves. Unfortunately for GWB, the fourth plane was hastily rigged up and failed to complete its mission.

If we put our heads together, we can unravel this whole conspiracy! Keep up the good work!

292 posted on 03/22/2003 1:30:15 PM PST by mikegi
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To: alnick
Our troops get vaccinated for anthrax, smallpox, and practically everything else under the sun. You get on line, and walk down like an assembly line while the doctors stick you like a pin cushion.
293 posted on 03/22/2003 1:30:47 PM PST by jpl
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To: wastoute
The "Hate America" first crowd won't ever give up. Yep. They've managed to spin utter defeat regarding the Cold War and Soviet communism. They will no doubt do the same here.
294 posted on 03/22/2003 1:31:50 PM PST by over3Owithabrain
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To: Steven W.
Surprised the cable networks aren't even mentioning this! At least in the wrap-ups I have seen in the last hour.
295 posted on 03/22/2003 1:33:19 PM PST by Freedom of Speech Wins
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To: Carry_Okie
  "How in the hell are we going to handle such finds in a way that convinces fair-minded people that we didn't plant or fake this?"

Frankly, I don't care about the opinions of the "international community". The fair minded will recognize the truth, the America haters wouldn't be convinced if the truth came to them inscribed on stone tablets (Oh wait, that's already been done).

Besides, if this report is true, that envelope will have come from a very much larger source. When that is found, the skeptics, naysayers and conspiracy theorists will have just too hard a time explaining that away.

--Boot Hill

297 posted on 03/22/2003 1:34:56 PM PST by Boot Hill
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To: zeaal
Exactly the reason there are embedded journalists among our military units.

Exactly. I made the same point yesterday on a thread that spoke of the history of atrocities committed by Saddam's son Uday, and someone started handwringing that the press would cover it up.

No way. The embedded journalists will be there when this stuff is found and be witnesses to it, plus get to tell the story.

I hate the media along with the best (witness the idiots at the press briefings), but the reporters along for the ride with the troops will be invaluable to keeping the record accurate.

298 posted on 03/22/2003 1:35:41 PM PST by cyncooper (God be with President Bush, PM Blair, and the Coalition of the Willing)
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To: Steven W.
What were the libs saying about proof that Iraq has hidden WMD and wants to use them? As usual, the libs and American muslims will dismiss this with a wave of the hand and flatly say that it was fabricated.
299 posted on 03/22/2003 1:37:30 PM PST by Excuse_My_Bellicosity
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To: cyncooper
There are some who can be convinced, and some who are providing real evidence.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/872426/posts
300 posted on 03/22/2003 1:38:34 PM PST by EllaMinnow (``No Saddam Hussein!'' one young man in headscarf told Gurfein. ``Bush!'')
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