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Posted on 03/29/2003 10:59:57 AM PST by Nov3
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To: phroebe
I don't recall it being particularly awfulIn 1951 it was. Many deaths reported, (according to relatives) and treatment was done at home. Home remedies.
Damages resulted in many kids. In fact, they really did not know what it was most of the time.
Now, it is not a big deal.
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posted on
03/29/2003 1:02:51 PM PST
by
Cold Heat
(Negotiate!! Blam! "Now who else wants to negotiate?")
To: Eric Cassano
42
posted on
03/29/2003 1:03:30 PM PST
by
Nov3
To: Nov3
I saw 12 Monkeys for the first time this week. Kind of chilling in the current context.
To: meyer
I've been fighting the esame thing you described for the last week.
To: Constitutionalist Conservative
It isn't that bad! (Unless you or someone you loves dies)
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posted on
03/29/2003 1:12:07 PM PST
by
Nov3
To: wirestripper
I meant I don't recall it being that bad for me when I had it (1957 or '58 probably), but then I got colds and flus and "stomach flu" all the time as a kid, plus all the "childhood diseases".
Hope your cold gets better soon. My best friend swears by Zicam, and I've seen a lot of Freepers say it's every bit as good as the commercials say, though you might have to use it at the first sign of a cold to get its full effectiveness. I bought a bottle to keep on hand "just in case." Last time I felt a cold coming on (mine always started with an unmistakable throat tickle), I took something like 32 grams of vit C in twelve hours, and nipped it in the bud completely.
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posted on
03/29/2003 1:12:57 PM PST
by
phroebe
(FREE from colds, flus, allergies and ALL drugs)
To: Nov3
You better have good medical evacuation insurance. That sounds like a $150,000 flight. Medevac on a commercial aircraft with an attending nurse can run $10,000 to $50,000.
Definately don't go overseas without it.
47
posted on
03/29/2003 1:15:34 PM PST
by
BJungNan
To: Nov3
It is killing healthy 30 year old men in hospital enviroments.Don't most hospitals use recycled air? I'm going to try and stay where I can breate outside air most of the time. I used to get a cold or flu every year until I stopped working in a hospital.
48
posted on
03/29/2003 1:26:21 PM PST
by
FITZ
To: meyer
Hi there! I cannot afford to get sick, since someone has to do my work, and if it's somebody else, he or she gets paid for it and I don't. :-/ I live with 7 cats and am thankful they never caused me any grief; they provide us too much happiness, and I think they'd stay no matter what inconvenience they could possibly ever cause!
My hayfever started when I moved to FL - all sorts of new and previously unencountered bits of strange flora in the air, and at all times of the year. It was getting worse by the year, culminating in a season during which I had to attempt to sleep in a chair at night, because I couldn't breathe in any position lying down. Weirdly enough, they disappeared completely the following year. At the time, I attributed this to an unusual catalyst - a magnetic mattress pad a friend persuaded me to try sleeping on - but it was likely a syncronicity of events aided by my ever-more-healthy dietary habits, as well as my refusal to ever take another drug to treat the symptoms (they only worked marginally for me, and the side effects were awful). Anyway, that was in 1996, but, coincidentally or not, I haven't had either the flu or a full-blown cold (or any illness) since then, either.
Be well!
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posted on
03/29/2003 1:31:36 PM PST
by
phroebe
(FREE from colds, flus, allergies and ALL drugs)
To: phroebe
Hi there! I cannot afford to get sick, since someone has to do my work, and if it's somebody else, he or she gets paid for it and I don't. :-/ I live with 7 cats and am thankful they never caused me any grief; they provide us too much happiness, and I think they'd stay no matter what inconvenience they could possibly ever cause! I'm in the same boat WRT work - If I call off sick, somebody else has to be called in. Since I surely don't want to be called in on my day off, I use sick time sparingly. As for the cats, I used to have one myself and much as I liked my little buddy, I had to give him away. I had to run the furnace blower through an electrostatic filter 24/7 and run a separate filter in the bedroom to tolerate him.
My hayfever started when I moved to FL - all sorts of new and previously unencountered bits of strange flora in the air, and at all times of the year. It was getting worse by the year, culminating in a season during which I had to attempt to sleep in a chair at night, because I couldn't breathe in any position lying down. Weirdly enough, they disappeared completely the following year. At the time, I attributed this to an unusual catalyst - a magnetic mattress pad a friend persuaded me to try sleeping on - but it was likely a syncronicity of events aided by my ever-more-healthy dietary habits, as well as my refusal to ever take another drug to treat the symptoms (they only worked marginally for me, and the side effects were awful). Anyway, that was in 1996, but, coincidentally or not, I haven't had either the flu or a full-blown cold (or any illness) since then, either.
I basically outgrew my hay fever - no other explanation for it. It just gradually went away as I grew older. I will, however, take a Benedryl if I go visit my friends with their cat - otherwise, its sneeze-city. :^)
Be well!
I'm getting there - You do the same!
50
posted on
03/29/2003 1:38:04 PM PST
by
meyer
To: Jim Noble
If this thing where truly this contagious, would not nearly everyone that flew with these people have gotten SARS?
OTOH, we now have one dead WHO researcher and 3 sick CDC workers in Tawain? How'd that happen?
What I am struggling with---at what point do I stop school, gymnastics lessons, etc?
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posted on
03/29/2003 1:38:25 PM PST
by
riri
To: FITZ
Don't most hospitals use recycled air? I'm going to try and stay where I can breate outside air most of the time. I used to get a cold or flu every year until I stopped working in a hospital. They put these cases in negative pressure rooms.
52
posted on
03/29/2003 2:19:47 PM PST
by
Nov3
To: Nov3
We still don't and will probably never have a vaccine for the commond cold.
To: wirestripper
It's like gambling. If you _knew_ you were going to get it, you would want it now, since you would most likely get the best care. But, of course, we don't know how bad it's going to get, if it gets bad at all. Hmmm...I know I would not want to be turned away at the hospital in six months. I wish I had a crystal ball.
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posted on
03/29/2003 4:37:02 PM PST
by
ecru
((i'm bland, like the color))
To: AAABEST
"LOL. All that bureau-speak and they leave out "take an aspirin" and hydration, which is common knowledge for controlling fever to us regular folks."
Should you get this, (and I sincerely hope you do not), you will be far too sick to be able to hydrate yourself much less take an aspirin. An illness this severe will not be helped by aspirin anyway.
Same goes for zinc and oil of oregano (?). While these things may (or may not) have preventative value against the common cold, once you get a cold they are of absolutely no use. Same for SARS.
To: meyer
"What really bothers me about this is that I've got a nasty chest cold right now. Got a little fever, a deep cough, and lots of bad stuff coming up when I cough. No different from the annual cold that I always seem to get, but its bothering me a little more since this SARS outbreak. "
I just got over (about 2 weeks ago) what you are describing. It was a nasty bronchial chest cold and I coughed up lots of sticky, stringy white stuff. I caught it from my dentist's assistant. My elderly mother just got over it, too. We are all fine again. So while I understand your worries in light of SARS, I think you are going to be ok soon. Good luck.
To: An American In Dairyland
Same goes for zinc and oil of oregano (?). While these things may (or may not) have preventative value against the common cold, once you get a cold they are of absolutely no use. Same for SARS.Actually, there's at least one study that claims that zinc is helpful in shortening the time that one suffers from a cold. I don't know that its helpful against viruses however.
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posted on
03/29/2003 6:14:36 PM PST
by
meyer
To: An American In Dairyland
I just got over (about 2 weeks ago) what you are describing. It was a nasty bronchial chest cold and I coughed up lots of sticky, stringy white stuff. I caught it from my dentist's assistant. My elderly mother just got over it, too. We are all fine again. So while I understand your worries in light of SARS, I think you are going to be ok soon. Good luck.Yeah, I'm pretty sure that I'll pull through. :^) I'm wondering, since this SARS thing is a virus, I would think that it would have varying affect on different people depending on how their individual immunities and condition. I'm not saying that I have it, but I suspect that some will get it and treat it like a common cold while others will deteriorate quickly.
Oh well, as for me, I was due. I skirted 2 colds that were going around through the winter. This one caught me.
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posted on
03/29/2003 6:18:45 PM PST
by
meyer
To: meyer
We had something particulary nasty about 6 weeks ago. High fever, aches, terrible cough, headache and an intense pain throughout your entire back. After about three days it seemed like you were recovering and then the next day-bam!-sick again...
I rarely ever get an illness with a cough. Maybe, I have gotten 6 in my 33 years. I was hacking up a lung with whatever this was. Strange thing was, it seemed to hit my little guy, 2, the least.
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posted on
03/29/2003 6:23:18 PM PST
by
riri
To: meyer
If I don't post tomorrow, you'll know what happened. And no, none of you are in my will. I hope I don't catch it by reading your post.
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