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Jewish lawmakers threaten walk-out over reference to Jesus
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | April 3, 2003 | Diana Lynne

Posted on 04/03/2003 6:25:58 PM PST by honway

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To: TopQuark
Open a book on teh history of the Church, on history of Byzantium, or Jewish history.

I am requesting a source for a very serious claim you made about the Catholic Church. Do you have a title and page number?

261 posted on 04/03/2003 7:51:29 PM PST by honway
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To: Illbay
You may be right, but he was a Christian, invited to give a prayer. If his manner of prayer includes the word Jesus, and that offended someone, blame the person who extended the invitation. They got just what they asked for.
262 posted on 04/03/2003 7:52:13 PM PST by wcbtinman (Not from 'my cold dead hands', but from your's.)
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To: 1 spark; Thinkin' Gal; Bobby777; DittoJed2; Jhoffa_
Either one accepts the New Testament or one does not.

Narrow is the road...

263 posted on 04/03/2003 7:52:47 PM PST by sauropod (If the women don't find you handsome, they should at least find you handy...)
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To: sauropod
If something you knew to be true was labeled "hateful" by all of the "tolerant" and "broad-minded" folk around you, would you disbelive your eyes?

Of course not. And this is the point you are missing: not all the truth must be said.

YOu actually follow this rule every day: your teenage son or daughter is about to make what you think is a (Small) mistake but, trying to give some room, you don't say anything, letting the child see the consequences on his own. HEy, even simpler: you see a peace of lettuce stuck in your guest's teeth, and you do not say anything.

If I said that only Jews are human, you would go through the roof: " How dare you exclude me," you would say. But you yourself so easily state, "THis is a Christian nation."

No, it's not about what you see. It's about mere tack and politeness. It's surprising that not only you do not exhibit the latter -- you even cannot tell these two notions apart.

265 posted on 04/03/2003 7:54:49 PM PST by TopQuark
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To: Byron_the_Aussie; Chancellor Palpatine
LOL! I'll add American Idol. Or the Neocon Bordello ;-).
266 posted on 04/03/2003 7:55:29 PM PST by sauropod (If the women don't find you handsome, they should at least find you handy...)
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To: DoughtyOne
We pray to Jesus. They pray to the Messiah.

It was my understanding, Jews pray to God, not the messiah. They await the messiah, and do not equate messiah to God, as Christians do.

Calling all Jews...do i have this wrong?

268 posted on 04/03/2003 7:56:14 PM PST by 1 spark
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To: wcbtinman

No kidding. I don't blame the guy at all.

What do you expect a Christian to say, anyway and how is a hollow, "multicultural" prayer any more than a feel good pep talk before the den of theives get's down to business?

269 posted on 04/03/2003 7:56:21 PM PST by Jhoffa_ (Frodo sleeps with men...)
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To: plano29
God is not the name of this power. His great name is "blank". When a jew passes upon it, he replaced it with God or lord. It is this "blank" name which when written on things, those things cannot be thrown away.
270 posted on 04/03/2003 7:56:45 PM PST by yonif
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To: sauropod
I have not gone through this thread, but there's a really website that addresses this.

http://www.wallbuilders.com David Barton's site dedicated to American history, particularly America's christian history.
271 posted on 04/03/2003 7:57:45 PM PST by cyborg
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To: TopQuark
It was confusing and begs the question. What are you gonna do about the New Testament. Who is Jesus?
272 posted on 04/03/2003 7:57:49 PM PST by sauropod (If the women don't find you handsome, they should at least find you handy...)
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To: Delphinium
Let them walk and tell them their resignations are accepted.
273 posted on 04/03/2003 7:58:07 PM PST by philetus (Keep doing what you always do and you'll keep getting what you always get)
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To: 1 spark
We Pray to God not the Messiah.
274 posted on 04/03/2003 7:58:49 PM PST by yonif
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To: Jhoffa_
I haven't read all the posts, but enough to see that most are missing the point. As a Christian, I am REQUIRED to pray in the name of Jesus because He said to. All power has been given to the Son acording to my beliefs. If I want my prayer heard and answered, I must pray to the one that can do something about it.(This is also a divider between me and Catholics. We don't believe St. so and so has any more influence than I do since the Bible declares that I am already a saint and a royal priest) If a Jew prays to G-D, and a Muslim prays to Allah, I just pray my own prayer in the name of Jesus, or look out the window till they are finished. Just like Jesus said "Forgive them Father, for they know not what they do." One cannot know the truth unless shown. The Holy Spirit is in charge of revealing Jesus to His people. People shouldn't be frightened of hearing a prayer in the name of Jesus, unless of course they are frightened that He is really the King of Kings. His Bride has nothing to fear, from anybody or anything.
275 posted on 04/03/2003 7:58:58 PM PST by chuckles
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To: Delphinium
Yep, you are absolutely right. Jewish friends, tell these people, their timing is pretty atrocious in these trou bled times. If we do not stick together, we will hang apart. Put it on the back burners--- please!
276 posted on 04/03/2003 7:59:33 PM PST by Peter Libra
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To: sauropod
You don't even want to start with me.
277 posted on 04/03/2003 7:59:45 PM PST by Chancellor Palpatine (going into an election campaign without the paleocons is like going to war without the French)
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To: Illbay
..now you've offended me...

Sorry about that. But without a bunch of Christian activists getting their dander up some 200 years ago, what would the US be now? Canada? Australia?

I just find it amazing that everyone's so ready to ignore the fierce Christian aspect of a Washington, a Jefferson, a Reagan, or even a GWB, yet be happy to thrive in the world they've made using their core motivation. 'A charge to keep', Illbay.

278 posted on 04/03/2003 7:59:59 PM PST by Byron_the_Aussie
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To: chuckles
Yes, but is that opinion applicable if the person was invited to make the prayer to not only Christians?
279 posted on 04/03/2003 8:00:08 PM PST by yonif
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To: Pharmboy
???? Please explain your thing with the chicken.

You lost me.

280 posted on 04/03/2003 8:00:42 PM PST by sauropod (If the women don't find you handsome, they should at least find you handy...)
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