Jewish lawmakers threaten walk-out over reference to Jesus

WorldNetDaily.com ^ | April 3, 2003 | Diana Lynne

[sauropod]

ty. I have heard of this.

[AnalogReigns]

Just a question, but why couldn't the prayer just have included G-d? Jews and Christians both worship the G-d of Abraham, why wasn't that enough?

Its very simple: Jesus claimed to be God, and specifically instructed that prayer be offered in His name. (John 14:13, 15:7, 15:16 16:19 & etc.) Praying in Jesus' name is an integral part of Christianity, from Jesus until today.

If Jews, Moslems or people of other religions don't like that: GET OVER IT. IT'S CALLED TOLLERANCE!

As a Christian I am deeply offended by neutral, ecumenical, namby-pamby prayers--they disobey the commands of Jesus, and they don't reflect reality...

[sauropod]

Yes. Thank you.

[yonif]

As a Christian I am deeply offended by neutral, ecumenical, namby-pamby prayers--they disobey the commands of Jesus, and they don't reflect reality...

You would say this even though you were making a prayer to a group of people which had Jews in addition to Christians?

[katnip]

To Christians, Jesus is G-d.
The fact that some find the utterance of his name offensive is kinda upsetting. It's becoming the word we're
not to say in polite company anymore.

Maybe Christians need to come up with a new politically correct codename for Jesus.

I don't think they should have the prayers at all by the way.

[djf]

As best I understand it, here's why:

Christ, even though he was raised Jewish and called Rabbi by his followers absolutely rejected the faith.

He stated "A man is not defiled by what he puts in his mouth, but by every word that comes out"
A rejection of Jewish tradition.

When he healed a man on the sabbath, many were critical, and he said "Which of you, whose pig had fallen into a put on the Sabbath, would not save it?"
Thus rejecting jewish tradition.

He chastised the apostles for trying to defnd him at the Garden of Gethsemene, and healed the ear of a soldier who had been struck of.
Thus rejecting Jewish philosophy of "An eye for an eye"

Commenting on the hoopla of the religious festivals, he said "Don't pray in public. Go into a closet and pray."
Rejecting the traditions that went along with Jewish festivals.

He went to the temple, and overthrew the tables, crying "My house is a house of prayer and you have made it a den of thieves!"
Rejecting a traditional mode of financial support for the priests.
Remember, each of those tables paid a fee to the temple priests for a spot.


Finally, he continually referred to the Jewish elders and Priests as hypocrites and scoundrels, and a good study of his trial and Jewish law at the time undeniably proves he was put to death not by the Romans, but by the Jewish power structure.

[Kuksool]

{This is a Pubbie/DemocRAT thing.}

Bingo! This is the latest attempt of the RATS to portray the Pubbies as intolerant bigots. First they played the race card with Trent Lott. Now MD RATS are playing the anti-semite card. Many Jews are unhappy with the RATS for not showing strong support for Israel. This incident in the MD General Assembly is a method to keep Jews on the RAT plantation.

Last month in the WA General Assembly, a Pubbie protested a Muslim Imam leading a prayer to Allah in the legislative chamber. The media and the RATS quickly smeared the Pubbie as racist. Religious expression is only politically correct for liberals.

[Gasshog]

Oh, you are going to get in trouble

tell ya what Ill draw their fire...since Im hittn the hay anyway

Hey, Everybody Jesus IS God! He is God the Son and inheriter of the Universes, the One and Only Potentate! This is what those leftists cant stand, and Jews cant accept (God luv em): Jesus IS GOD!

Now you can explain that to em

'nite

[sauropod]

Bring it on Counselor. I know who you are.

[TopQuark]

Again illogical and irrelevant:

What are you gonna do about the New Testament. Who is Jesus?

I am not going to do anything at all about New Testament.

I have an opinion about Jesus.

None of your questions have any relevance whatever to any and all of my previous posts.

Looks like you really enjoy divisiveness: we talked about a small disagreement that occurred today, and you are movign it into a theological discussion.

Please address it those who like to fight; I am not one of them. And, frankly, given your offensive remarks and the fact that you do not even bother to apologize for them, I have no desire to continue this conversation.

[mlmr]

Except for one thing...Christians pray in the name of Jesus Christ. If you include Christians as convocators (?) this is what they do. It is how they were instructed to pray by Christ. Just like Jews wearing yamakahs yamakas (beanies!!) you know what I mean!!

[yonif]

If Jesus = God, then it would be correct to say:
I believe in Jesus = I believe in God?

I thought Jesus was the Messiah. Christ = messiah. Jesus Christ = Jesus the Messiah.

[sauropod]

I don't cast spells. ;-). Unless it is with FReeper women...

[Edmund Burke]

They probably pulled this same stuff with the Germans.

[TopQuark]

an easily found source on the internet

If you are illiterate and have never been to the library, please do not make it sound like it is my fault: go to a comunity college, they have remedial courses. And you can find the address on the nearest library on the internet.

It's too bad you are still trowing temper tantrums, kid.

[nmh]

This is offensive. Don't folks find it odd that the name of Jesus has been allowed till now? Isn't it also odd that when sworn in the Holy Bible (OLD and NEW Testament) is used for the swearing in? Now this ... it's way out of line by our Jewish folks.

[Blake#1]

The USofA will not survive as a Jewish, Muslim, or Pluralistic nation. If you, and others like you, insist on "changing" what the USof A "is" tell us what you will replace it with before we start the "Revolution"!

[Gasshog]

Dont you know ONLY Christian are expected to be tolerant?

[Bobby777]

We retain our Faith in Christ ... The New Testament tells us that it is often much work to bring people to Faith in Christ ... not all will accept God's Free Gift ... nonetheless, the New Testament tells us about this situation exactly:

Romans 11 KJV
27 For this is My covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.
28 As concerning the Gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the Father's sakes.
29 For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance.

[sauropod]

Two prayers could have been said. One to honor the crew as a whole and one to honor the Israeli hero specifically.

Ain't tolerance fun?