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Actor Robbins Says US Now Viewed as 'Rogue State'
CNSNews.com ^ | 4/16/03 | Jeff Johnson

Posted on 04/16/2003 3:35:41 AM PDT by kattracks

Capitol Hill (CNSNews.com) - Actor and anti-war activist Tim Robbins said Tuesday that "it is time to get angry" over the Bush administration's alleged reprisals against opponents of the war.

Robbins told an audience at the National Press Club that the Bush administration has taken advantage of the American people and squandered the good will the world had recently developed toward the U.S.

"In the 19 months since 9/11, we have seen our democracy compromised by fear and hatred," he claimed. "Basic inalienable rights, due process, the sanctity of the home have been quickly compromised in a climate of fear.

"A unified American public has grown bitterly divided," Robbins continued, "and a world population that had profound sympathy and support for us has grown contemptuous and distrustful, viewing us as we once viewed the Soviet Union, as a rogue state."

The actor-activist accused the Bush administration and other supporters of the war of a campaign of intimidation to silence those who disagree with them.

"A message is being sent through the White House and its allies in talk radio...[that] if you oppose this administration, there can and will be ramifications," Robbins claimed. "Every day, the airwaves are filled with warnings, veiled and unveiled threats, spewed invective and hatred directed at any voice of dissent."

Robbins also accused the American media of colluding with the U.S. government to conceal the consequences of the war against Saddam Hussein.

"Unlike the rest of the world, our news coverage of this war remains sanitized, without a glimpse of the blood and gore inflicted upon our soldiers or the women and children in Iraq," Robbins charged. "We are told it would be pornographic. We want no part of reality in real life."

He complimented the professionalism and achievements of the American military and challenged the argument that one cannot oppose the war while supporting the troops.

"Our ability to disagree and our inherent right to question our leaders and criticize their actions define who we are," Robbins argued. "To allow those rights to be taken away out of fear, to punish people for their beliefs, to limit access in the news media to differing opinions is to acknowledge our democracy's defeat."

Robbins called on those who agree or disagree with his anti-war stance to rise up against what he deems false patriotism.

"In this time when a citizenry applauds the liberation of a country as it lives in fear of its own freedom...when people all over the country fear reprisal if they use their right to free speech, it is time to get angry. It is time to get fierce," he continued. "Any instance of intimidation to free speech should be battled against. Any acquiescence to intimidation at this point will only lead to more intimidation."

War in Iraq Said to Be 'Trial Run' for 'World Military Dictator'

Thomas Andrews, who appeared with Robbins, now heads Win Without War, a coalition of some 40 groups including the NAACP, the National Council of Churches, the Sierra Club and the National Organization of Women.

He said Tuesday that the coalition opposed the war because it was "unnecessary, illegal and would leave our nation and our world less secure.

"Despite the much-touted successes of the military invasion," Andrews argued, "the costs and risks of this war remain enormous, and there is no reason to believe the U.S. is any more secure now than it was before."

The Maine Democrat and former U.S. representative from that state said he also fears that the Bush White House was merely "testing the waters" with the attack on Saddam Hussein's dictatorship.

"The U.S. war against Iraq is in many ways a trial run to establish what this administration calls a 'new norm' in international relations," Andrews said. "The Bush administration is pursuing a vision in which the U.S. is not only the world's policeman, but also the world's military dictator, answerable only to itself."

Andrews believes that the pre-emptive strike against Iraq will not have the desired effect of deterring other nations from developing weapons of mass destruction or selling them to terrorists.

"So-called rogue states could very likely conclude that they had better develop nuclear weapons or other weapons of mass destruction immediately, or they'll be vulnerable to a United States preventive war," he concluded.

The war against Iraq had little to do with stopping terrorism, Andrews claimed, and may - in his opinion - fuel more attacks on the U.S.

"As expected, the war has caused an upsurge in anti-American sentiment in the Middle East and around the world," he argued.

"Al Qaeda was created and became empowered by the U.S. presence in Saudi Arabia following the first Gulf War," Andrews continued. "What new networks will be spawned in reaction to the U.S. presence in Iraq?"

Bush Approval Ratings Rise as Statues of Saddam Fall

Newsweek.com reported Tuesday that President Bush's approval rating with the American public had risen 18 points in the past month to 71 percent.

"Bush gets strong marks for his handling of the war in Iraq and the larger war on terrorism, with 74 and 78 percent approving of his efforts in those areas respectively," Jennifer Barrett wrote for the newsmagazine's website.

"And a full 93 percent of those surveyed say they believe U.S. military efforts in Iraq have gone very well (73 percent) or somewhat well (20 percent) so far."

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1 posted on 04/16/2003 3:35:41 AM PDT by kattracks
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To: kattracks
LOL!!! Maybe Tim Robbins can hire Baghdad Bob to be his spokesman. :)
2 posted on 04/16/2003 3:41:58 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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3 posted on 04/16/2003 3:42:29 AM PDT by Support Free Republic (Your support keeps Free Republic going strong!)
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To: kattracks
"The Bush administration is pursuing a vision in which the U.S. is not only the world's policeman, but also the world's military dictator, answerable only to itself."

What a crock. If the US were a conqering state, we'd rule most of the world by now.

I watched snipets of Tim Robbins whiney ass speech; "Susan and I are labeled as trators...", boo freakin' hoo Tim, you and your silly bitch wife brought it upon yourselves.

4 posted on 04/16/2003 3:43:23 AM PDT by Pern
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To: kattracks
Tim Robbins is delusional.
5 posted on 04/16/2003 3:43:56 AM PDT by Jorge
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To: kattracks
I saw some of this last night. I'm glad the press is giving him so much airtime - he is so over the top that his ideas just sound silly now. He's become Martha Burke. Where'd he get that faux "Bill Buckley" accent anyway?
6 posted on 04/16/2003 3:44:23 AM PDT by americafirst
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To: kattracks
Would this idiot just please shut up????
7 posted on 04/16/2003 3:44:32 AM PDT by RightOnline
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To: RightOnline
The more he talks the more people will come to see exactly what the Hollyweird crowd is made of.
8 posted on 04/16/2003 3:48:03 AM PDT by kattracks
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To: kattracks
If what this poor fool is saying is true, then he would be in jail by now. Just the fact that he is still out there babbling is proof that he's wacked. Shouldn't actors be acting instead of gradstanding on topics where they obviously know nothing?
9 posted on 04/16/2003 3:48:25 AM PDT by Dr. I. C. Spots
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To: kattracks
Rogue to what, exactly?

"That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed. That whenever any form of government becomes destructive to these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shown that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such government, and to provide new guards for their future security."

I don't think the legitimacy of the United States government and its actions is the issue.

10 posted on 04/16/2003 3:49:01 AM PDT by Jim Noble
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To: kattracks
America needs no more pity!!

We've earned respect and the fear of the terrorists and that's what it's all about!!

Robbins is a shallow freak out of step with reality and out of step with his nation.

Rest in peace you jerk!!

11 posted on 04/16/2003 3:49:47 AM PDT by CROSSHIGHWAYMAN
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To: kattracks
Newsweek.com reported Tuesday that President Bush's approval rating with the American public had risen 18 points in the past month to 71 percent.

"Bush gets strong marks for his handling of the war in Iraq and the larger war on terrorism, with 74 and 78 percent approving of his efforts in those areas respectively," Jennifer Barrett wrote for the newsmagazine's website.

"And a full 93 percent of those surveyed say they believe U.S. military efforts in Iraq have gone very well (73 percent) or somewhat well (20 percent) so far."

Robbins said:

"A unified American public has grown bitterly divided,"

Seems like Robbins needs a math lesson. How does 93 percent translate into bitterly divided?

12 posted on 04/16/2003 3:50:09 AM PDT by dawn53
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To: kattracks
Seems to me that it's the people that are against him, I havn't heard the president calling them traiters.
13 posted on 04/16/2003 3:51:46 AM PDT by .45MAN (If you don't like it here try and find a better country, Please!!)
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To: Pern
What these jerks don't seem to realize is that if the United States were really out to conquer the world, it would've happened back in the early 1950's when we held the monopoly on nuclear weaponry.
14 posted on 04/16/2003 3:52:06 AM PDT by PhyreFox
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To: CROSSHIGHWAYMAN
I think that's what's driving these freaaks nuts. They don't want to see the US as a strong nation, protecting itself and it's citizens.

That's why they loved clinton, who nearly brought us to our knees, and spent a major portion of his time apologizing to third world countries for our standard of living.

15 posted on 04/16/2003 3:53:53 AM PDT by kattracks
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To: kattracks
"Rogue state?" Hardly.

We are a nation which will defend itself and destroy our enemies when attacked.

But, who cares what this pathetic entertainer says anyway?

16 posted on 04/16/2003 3:57:35 AM PDT by Skooz (Tagline removed by moderator)
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To: kattracks
Actor and anti-war activist Tim Robbins said Tuesday that "it is time to get angry" over the Bush administration's alleged reprisals against opponents of the war.

Reminds me of a study a couple years back where they determined that one of the compensations about being truly stupid was that you didn't realize that you were, in fact, stupid.

Exhibit A: Tim Robbins.

17 posted on 04/16/2003 4:01:12 AM PDT by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: Jim Noble
Rogue to what, exactly?

That's what I was thinking. With dictators on the Human Rights commission and Russians together with Europeans propping up a dictatorship to exploit Iraqis for oil deals, being a rogue sounds like the only appropriate position.

18 posted on 04/16/2003 4:01:47 AM PDT by Schnucki
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To: Jim Noble
"Rogue to what, exactly?"

When we stop toppling ruthless dictators who have us in their terrorists sights and we start invading Finland, Sweden or Berkley, CA., then I will agree that we have reached rogue status.

Until then, Mr. Robbins, shut up and worry about your wife's inventory of Depends and wrinkle cream.
19 posted on 04/16/2003 4:03:19 AM PDT by Bluntpoint
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To: kattracks
"Al Qaeda was created and became empowered by the U.S. presence in Saudi Arabia following the first Gulf War,"

Gee, and here I thought it was bin Laden and his Daddy's money. Thanks for clearing that up Tim.

20 posted on 04/16/2003 4:06:08 AM PDT by kanawa (Robbins the truth to feeds the fantasy)
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To: kattracks
The actor-activist accused the Bush administration and other supporters of the war of a campaign of intimidation to silence those who disagree with them.

I don't seem to understand your charge of intimidation. From the coverage you have been given, it appears that this statement is not true. Over the last few days you have been quoted in many place about your thoughts on the war with Iraq, and your thoughts about President Bush.

If I am correct, I have not seen any direct reply form the President concerning your slanted rantings.

There are brave men and women who through the ages have died to allow you to rant about all kinds of ego driven thoughts you have.

This great country where you live, make a good living and rant about intimidation is one a just a very few that this type of speach is not restricted.

Maybe instead of whining, you should be thankful that you have your little soapbox to stand on and spout your ego driven thoughts.

If this great country is so bad, maybe you could move to Iran, Syria, North Korea, etc. I'm sure they would be happen to put up with your rantings.

Oh wait, if I remember correctly they would arrest you put you in jail and you would never be seen again.

Wake up moron, America is not such a bad place to live. If you still feel the same about where you live, there are no chains keeping you here. It's your choice, but please no more whining like a spoiled little baby.

21 posted on 04/16/2003 4:07:08 AM PDT by chiefqc
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To: goldstategop
The actor-activist accused the Bush administration and other supporters of the war of a campaign of intimidation to silence those who disagree with them.

Why haven't we heard from Robbins championing the RIGHTS OF CONSERVATIVE ACTORS, ACTRESSES, SINGERS/SONGWRITERS, PUBLIC SERVANTS when those people have been intimidated, called foul names, blacklisted from acting parts? WHERE WAS ROBBINS, SARRANDON, SHEEN, and their ilk to defend conservatives who were attacked for speaking out?

1. When George Clooney made fun of Charlton Heston for having Alzheimers and then he had the audacity to defend himself: "When asked by Ms. [Liz] Smith if the remark went over the line, Clooney replied: 'I don't care. Charlton Heston is the head of the NRA; he deserves whatever anyone says about him.'"

SILENCE. 2. Colin Powell/Condi Rice, when Harry Belafonte said they are Uncle Toms, serving the Master in the House

SILENCE. 3. Charles Rangel, when he said our military are "bombers of women and children."

SILENCE. And these are only recent comments. This kind of ugliness has been occurring for years. What's the matter, Robbins, you can dish it out but can't take it, yourself?

THE SILENCE WAS DEAFENING!!

P.S., Mr. Robbins: It ain't the Bush Administration who's doing anything to you and your ilk, it's us, the American people, many of whom are now in the military fighting this war, who've lined your pockets and allowed you to fly your private planes and get those lucrative acting parts---we've been the ones who've paid for all those movie tickets, CD's, concert tickets. WE'RE THE ONES WHO AREN'T BUYING IT, ANYMORE.

22 posted on 04/16/2003 4:09:31 AM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: kattracks
Maybe Robbins would be happier if someone from the White House got him a fruit basket.


23 posted on 04/16/2003 4:10:25 AM PDT by mhking
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To: Pern
Hey Tim and Susie..........If the shoes fits.......!
24 posted on 04/16/2003 4:12:07 AM PDT by StoneColdTaxHater
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To: kattracks
One question this guy has yet to answer is will there be a sequel to Howard the Duck?
25 posted on 04/16/2003 4:12:22 AM PDT by YourAdHere (Jenna will win Survivor)
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To: dawn53
How does 93 percent translate into bitterly divided?

I think it is the 7% that Robbins represents who are bitter.

26 posted on 04/16/2003 4:18:36 AM PDT by TN4Liberty (Lord, Protect the troops...)
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To: Pern
"Susan and I are labeled as traitors...". We call them as we see them Tim.
27 posted on 04/16/2003 4:28:57 AM PDT by anoldafvet (Freedom isn't free, it's the most costly gift you'll ever receive.)
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To: goldstategop
Tim..I am angry. Lets do lunch. Also you might want to bring a first aid kit!
28 posted on 04/16/2003 4:32:22 AM PDT by IC Ken
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To: kattracks
Actor and anti-war activist Tim Robbins said Tuesday that "it is time to get angry" over the Bush administration's alleged reprisals against opponents of the war.

An outright lie and paranoid delusion. This guy actually thinks the White House is after his sorry little ass! It's the American public that rejects what this creep has to say.

The White House has far better things to do than to sully his name.

29 posted on 04/16/2003 4:33:13 AM PDT by dennisw
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To: goldstategop
I heard part of his rant yesterday. He spoke of a nephew who stood up and said,"STOP IT." when a teacher made a comment.

Robbins needs to know that we yell out the same thing when we see peace rallies that carry signs saying,"We support our troops, when they kill their officers. or when see American flags with Nazi symbols drawn on them.

30 posted on 04/16/2003 4:38:04 AM PDT by mware
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To: goldstategop
The Great War A.D. 2003

Baghdad Bob says
"U.S. Forces are not in Baghdad...er...wait a minute."


Baghdad Bob and his
lookalike, Dustin Hoffman

LOL!!! Maybe Tim Robbins can hire Baghdad Bob to be his spokesman. :)

hehe !

Man ! How moronic can one person get?

And, apparently he never heard that when you find yourself in a hole, the FIRST rule is to STOP DIGGIN' !! . . .

31 posted on 04/16/2003 4:39:02 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (Bu-bye Saddam! / Check out my Freeper site !: http://home.attbi.com/~freeper/wsb/index.html)
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To: kattracks
What a frenching idiot.
32 posted on 04/16/2003 4:40:00 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
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To: kattracks
Although I don't watch him as much as I used to, O'Reilly had a great response to Timmy last night. Can anyone find it and post it?
33 posted on 04/16/2003 4:41:20 AM PDT by laker_dad
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To: yall
Of course, like another person said, Robbins is delusional, so he doesn't
know he's in a hole I guess (doesn't have a clue) . . .
34 posted on 04/16/2003 4:43:50 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (Bu-bye Saddam! / Check out my Freeper site !: http://home.attbi.com/~freeper/wsb/index.html)
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To: kattracks
"A message is being sent through the White House and its allies in talk radio...[that] if you oppose this administration, there can and will be ramifications," Robbins claimed.

Actions have consequences, Timmy. Trent Lott made one wrong comment at Strom Thurmond’s birthday dinner and there were ramifications that Robbins probably was more than happy to help inflict.

35 posted on 04/16/2003 4:44:35 AM PDT by Celtjew Libertarian (No more will we pretend that our desire/For liberty is number-cold and has no fire.)
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To: kattracks
Message to Tim: President Bush has bigger issues to deal with than your whiney drivel. Your self-importance goes unnoticed by people who have real things to do in this world. None of the real things in our society are centered around your make-believe world.
36 posted on 04/16/2003 4:45:37 AM PDT by abclily
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To: kattracks
Now Timmy please shut up. There are no fish beneath the ice, the skating rink is closed. Go home.
37 posted on 04/16/2003 4:47:03 AM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (Saddam's Hiding In Tikrit He's Eating Another Daisy)
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To: Celtjew Libertarian
Exactly. Liberals who hate America should definitely pay a price for assaulting this country. No more free ride. If you don't like it here Timmy, move to someplace more congenial to your outlook.
38 posted on 04/16/2003 4:48:36 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: kattracks
Fortunately tim robbins is about as important as billy boy
39 posted on 04/16/2003 4:51:13 AM PDT by The Wizard (Saddamocrats are enemies of America)
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To: dawn53
"And a full 93 percent of those surveyed say they believe U.S. military efforts in Iraq have gone very well (73 percent) or somewhat well (20 percent) so far."

Robbins said:
"A unified American public has grown bitterly divided,"

Seems like Robbins needs a math lesson. How does 93 percent translate into bitterly divided?

I am among the 93 percent who thinks that the war has gone well. I'm amazed at what our military is able to do. But that does not mean that I think the war should have happened. That's probably what Robbins meant by "bitterly divided".

40 posted on 04/16/2003 4:57:44 AM PDT by wafflespirit
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To: kattracks
What are these guy's credentials?
41 posted on 04/16/2003 5:02:00 AM PDT by The Duke
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To: wafflespirit
The Liberal New Math means if you don't hate America, you're not a good Leftie.
42 posted on 04/16/2003 5:02:29 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: kanawa
"Al Qaeda was created and became empowered by the U.S. presence in Saudi Arabia following the first Gulf War,"

Al Qaeda became empowered by the sick religion of Islam, and its teaching that killing and murdering infidels (especially civilians) is the highest form of spiritual advancement.

43 posted on 04/16/2003 5:06:39 AM PDT by angkor
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To: goldstategop
Dear Tim Robbins;

You are a complete moron. Please shut your mouth before you bring more shame on the human race. You and your wife are socialist America haters who would probably be more comfortable in France or Canada anyway. Oh yes, could you take Alec with you too? PS Don't get too offended by my signature gif, okay? Weenie.


44 posted on 04/16/2003 5:08:07 AM PDT by BSunday (Robins tend to get eaten by eagles)
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To: goldstategop; yall
I just did a Google Search to look for Tim Robbins e-mail address
so I could send him my 2 cents on his idiocy! I couldn't find it.

I did find this site, and apparently it's been SWAMPED with hits, LOL !

Does anybody have Tim's e-mail address?? . . .

45 posted on 04/16/2003 5:11:41 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (Bu-bye Saddam! / Check out my Freeper site !: http://home.attbi.com/~freeper/wsb/index.html)
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To: The Wizard
Robbins is cryin'. Typical lib boo-hooing and denial that they also have responsibilities associated with their freedom of speech.

Prairie
46 posted on 04/16/2003 5:13:52 AM PDT by prairiebreeze (Freedom isn't free.........unless you live in France.)
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To: wafflespirit
I am among the 93 percent who thinks that the war has gone well. I'm amazed at what our military is able to do. But that does not mean that I think the war should have happened. That's probably what Robbins meant by "bitterly divided".

And what would have been your alternative to war with Iraq????

47 posted on 04/16/2003 5:14:27 AM PDT by dawn53
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To: BSunday
Robbins and Saranwrap are partners only. common law marriage at best.

Prairie
48 posted on 04/16/2003 5:14:42 AM PDT by prairiebreeze (Freedom isn't free.........unless you live in France.)
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To: kattracks
Where is a director when you need one to tell this guy "quiet on the set!". He seems determined to completely alienate himself from the public who pays to watch his movie. Or should I say used to watch his movies.
49 posted on 04/16/2003 5:16:59 AM PDT by Russell Scott (Liberals are slaves to their ideology, so don't expect them to embrace a free Iraq.)
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To: kattracks
The more he talks the more people will come to see exactly what the Hollyweird crowd is made of.

I agree. Let him self-destruct. More and more people are catching on to what the hollywierd people stand for.

50 posted on 04/16/2003 5:17:45 AM PDT by Snowy (My golden retriever can lick your honor student)
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