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IRAN: God Wills It, But The People Don't Want It (Iranian youths calling Bush "the messiah")
strategypage.com ^ | April 24, 2003 | Q & D Headlines

Posted on 04/25/2003 7:55:21 AM PDT by Destro

IRAN: God Wills It, But The People Don't Want It

April 24, 2003: In Iran, young people are calling American president Bush "the messiah" and wondering when he will invade Iran and free the people from the dictatorship of the Islamic clergy. Meanwhile, the Islamic radicals see the departure of Saddam's forces as an opportunity to spread Islamic rule into Iraq. Most Iraqi Shias apparently don't want an Islamic republic. But neither do most Iranians. Makes no difference. God wills it and things are likely to get ugly before they get any better.

April 23, 2003: The Iranian rebels long based in Iraq, the People's Mujahadeen, say they have reached an understanding with American forces and have been allowed to keep their weapons and Iraq bases, as well as their goals of overthrowing the religious rules of Iran. The US government believes the People's Mujahadeen can muster about 5,000 fighters.

US Marine light armor are now patrolling parts of the Iraq border, checking for hostile (to America) Iranians crossing the border.

The US has warned Iran against sending agents and aid to Iraq in order to try and establish an Islamic republic.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News
KEYWORDS: bush; bushdoctrine; bushdoctrineunfold; geopolitics; iran; iranreform; iraq; iraqifreedom; july9th2003; marines; postwariraq; presidentbushlist; shias; shiite; shiites; southasia; southasialist; usmc; war
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1 posted on 04/25/2003 7:55:21 AM PDT by Destro
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To: Destro
What is wrong with these people? Can't they carry out their own trash. Ya know it's bad enough they have the audacity to murder our people and burn our flag then they expect us to clean out their toilets for free! And then after we finish the job they insult us. When they passed out the brass balls these guys must have been first in line. Semper Fi
2 posted on 04/25/2003 8:02:20 AM PDT by kellynla ( "C" 1/5 1st Mar Div '69 & '70 An Hoa, Viet Nam Semper Fi)
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To: Destro
Holy Crap!

Is Messiah in the Koran anywhere?

If not, somebody's been sneakin' Jesus in that country.

Talk about your brass balls!
3 posted on 04/25/2003 8:03:48 AM PDT by mabelkitty
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To: mabelkitty
The Arabic (and probably Persian) word for Christian is Masihi (pronounced: maseehee). It means a "follower of the Messiah".
4 posted on 04/25/2003 8:06:30 AM PDT by katana
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To: seamole
yes, but it was 12 monkeys.
7 posted on 04/25/2003 8:09:27 AM PDT by demosthenes the elder (If *I* can afford $5/month to support FR: SO CAN YOU)
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To: Destro
My best friend is an Iranian expat
He and I had a discussion on this very topic some few weeks ago.
He said something very like the content of this article.
Dubya might just be able to pull off a hattrick here.
8 posted on 04/25/2003 8:11:16 AM PDT by demosthenes the elder (If *I* can afford $5/month to support FR: SO CAN YOU)
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To: Destro
So this is the "angry response" from the "Arab street" that the Liberals warned us about.

Steeeee-rike!

-Jay
9 posted on 04/25/2003 8:13:22 AM PDT by Jay D. Dyson (Terrorists of the world, RISE UP! [So I may more easily gun you down.])
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To: Jay D. Dyson
Iranians are not Arabs.
10 posted on 04/25/2003 8:14:17 AM PDT by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorisim by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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To: seamole
ah.
12 posted on 04/25/2003 8:18:16 AM PDT by demosthenes the elder (If *I* can afford $5/month to support FR: SO CAN YOU)
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To: Destro
having once made the mistake of calling a Persian an Arab (yes, the same man who is now my best friend) and hyaving received a full set of lumps for the error, I can say: No shi'ite!
13 posted on 04/25/2003 8:20:05 AM PDT by demosthenes the elder (If *I* can afford $5/month to support FR: SO CAN YOU)
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To: Destro
Also on the page: "April 15, 2003: Coalition aircraft bombed the bases of The People's Mujahadeen, an Iranian opposition movement based in Iraq. Comprised mostly of secular Iranians who opposed, first the Shah, and then the Islamic revolution in Iran, they regularly stage raids into Iran. But in 1991 they also helped Saddam suppress rebellions by Kurds and Shias. They are thought to have 10-15,000 armed men and women in several camps along the Iranian border. It was thought that some of the camps were bombed as early as April 4th or 5th. Reporters visiting the camps have found them recently evacuated. Coalition forces report that they have been negotiating with the leaders of the People's Mujahadeen. If members of the People's Mujahadeen were sent back to Iran, many would be imprisoned and executed. Because of that danger, most People's Mujahadeen members have apparently fled the camps and are attempting to get out of Iraq."

I think we can productively use the MEK's 10-15K armed men and women in Iran. True, they aided Hussein against the Shia uprisings in 1991, but I think they were doing it for different reasons than Hussein-- Hussein feared that he would be toppled and the MEKs feared that Iraq would become a total theocratic state like the one Ayatollah Ali Hoseini-Khamenei wants in Iran-- making it considerably less likely that Iran would ever throw off its theocracy. We in the US felt the same fear as the MEK about those uprisings. We wanted a kinder, gentler military dictator to replace Saddam in 1991. I'd be willing to give them a blank slate if they decided to be a true ally against Iran and our other enemies. How about the rest of you here at FR?
14 posted on 04/25/2003 8:22:32 AM PDT by GraniteStateConservative (Putting government in charge of morality is like putting pedophiles in charge of children.)
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To: kellynla
When they passed out the brass balls these guys must have been first in line.

Either that or they were out bombing innocent children and missed the handout completely.

16 posted on 04/25/2003 8:25:06 AM PDT by Future Snake Eater (All generalizations are false.)
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To: seamole
The Koran
= Old Testament
- The Jews
+ New Testament
- The point of the New Testament
+ Mohammed's 20,000 amendments for global domination
+ Mullahs' "interpretations" about how Mullahs are great
17 posted on 04/25/2003 8:25:26 AM PDT by pgyanke (For evil to succeed, good men must do nothing.)
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To: pgyanke
Some very important observation there, friend.
18 posted on 04/25/2003 8:30:28 AM PDT by Paul_B
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To: Karl B; marron
When has the USA never given circumstancial support to mujahadeen at first? We were probably (and maybe still are) the most mujahadeen freindly Western nation.
19 posted on 04/25/2003 8:35:03 AM PDT by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorisim by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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To: pgyanke
Allah is not the God of Abraham.
20 posted on 04/25/2003 8:35:45 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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