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Jeffords Warns GOP: Pressure Can Backfire
Washington Post ^ | may 4, 2003 | Helen Dewar

Posted on 05/04/2003 2:53:03 PM PDT by FairOpinion

Vermont Sen. James M. Jeffords had some not-too-subtle words of advice yesterday for Republicans as they push reluctant GOP moderates to support President Bush's tax-cut package: Don't forget what happened the last time you tried this.

It was two years ago this month that Jeffords decided to bolt from the Republican Party and become an independent, tipping the balance of power in the Senate to the Democrats until the GOP regained a narrow majority in November.

Now, Jeffords said in delivering the Democrats' response to Bush's weekly radio address, Republicans who disagree with Bush on fiscal priorities -- an apparent reference to Sens. Olympia J. Snowe (Maine) and George V. Voinovich (Ohio) -- are being pressured to toe the party line. Bush recently chose Ohio as the backdrop for a sales pitch on his tax-cut bill, and the Club for Growth, a conservative advocacy group, has run ads showing Voinovich and Snowe flanked by the French flag, which was not meant as a compliment.

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TOPICS: Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Maine; US: Ohio; US: Vermont
KEYWORDS: bushtaxcuts; clubforgrowth; jeffords; snow; taxcut; voinovich
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Isn't this just precious, Jeffords delivering the Dem response and "warning the GOP"?!
1 posted on 05/04/2003 2:53:03 PM PDT by FairOpinion
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To: FairOpinion
He would be the type to cuddle up with Chafee. Who's the receiver?
2 posted on 05/04/2003 2:54:55 PM PDT by Thebaddog (Fetch !)
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To: FairOpinion
Maybe Olympia J. Snowe and George V. Voinovich are in talks with Jeffords to become full rats?
3 posted on 05/04/2003 2:55:33 PM PDT by TLBSHOW (the gift is to see the truth so I must warn Freepers of the 10 Blind Mice at FR)
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To: FairOpinion
Maybe he thinks every other moderate Republican can be bought by the dems, you know, the classic projection of one's own thoughts into a given situation?

Sorry, Jeffy, most people won't sell out....like you did.
4 posted on 05/04/2003 2:56:15 PM PDT by OpusatFR (Using pretentious arcane words to buttress your argument means you don't have one)
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To: FairOpinion
Jimbonehead, don't forget what happened to libs who misunderestimate the Prez - see 2002. And you'll be lucky to get out of 2004 without loss of a few more seats in the Senate. Thereby rendering Vermont senators even more meaningless.
5 posted on 05/04/2003 2:57:29 PM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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To: FairOpinion
the Club for Growth, a conservative advocacy group, has run ads showing Voinovich and Snowe flanked by the French flag, which was not meant as a compliment.

ROTFLOL!!!! Wish I could see the ad!

I'm surprised Jumpin' Jim did not use the standard party line, "I'm deeply saddened and, oh yes, deeply concnerned also, that ......blah blah blah.

Screw him.

LVM

6 posted on 05/04/2003 2:58:28 PM PDT by LasVegasMac
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To: FairOpinion
LOL! LOL!

Jeffords is advising the Republican party..?

BWAHHAHAHAH!! It's too much!

Hey, BTW.. (LOL!) Have they disassembled his precious Dairy Monopoly yet?

7 posted on 05/04/2003 2:59:27 PM PDT by Jhoffa_ (Sammy to Frodo: "Get out. Go sleep with one of your whores!")
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To: FairOpinion
Jim Jeffords was always a Democrat, he just finally formalized it--and promptly lost all his leverage, poor baby.

If Snowe and others want to jump ship, they'll really enjoy being part of the minority after Nov 2004.
8 posted on 05/04/2003 3:00:27 PM PDT by Numbers Guy
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To: FairOpinion
Two thoughts:

1. Jeffords is trying to remind people he exists. I think his books have even been shoved out of the remainder bin to make space for more interesting reads.

2. Republicans who don't support income tax cuts are not Republicans. I can understand the differences on issues such as abortion, immigration, gay rights, etc., but if you aren't in favor of lower taxes, there is no reason to be a Republican.
9 posted on 05/04/2003 3:00:59 PM PDT by laurav
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To: FairOpinion
Jumping Jim, Baghdad Bob, Jumping Jim, Baghdad Bob.

Confusing, isn't it?
10 posted on 05/04/2003 3:01:23 PM PDT by Nagual
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To: Nagual
"Jumping Jim, Baghdad Bob"

Don't forget, there is also a "Baghdad Jim (McDermott)", just to make it even more confusing. ;)
11 posted on 05/04/2003 3:03:53 PM PDT by FairOpinion
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To: FairOpinion
Getting rid of Jeffords was a hugh plus for the Republicans in the long run.

It showed other lefty Republicans that the party could be pushed only so far. Just like handling Iraq makes a very effective demonstration to other bad guys.

It got rid of a negative voice from within the party that totally infuriated the party ground roots. It is hard to take a position as a party when someone on the inside is vocally opposed to it.

It gave the Republican base a hugh incentive to get active and take back the Senate.

What the Republicans need to do is to continue to clean out those who claim to be Republican, but don't agree with the Republican principles.
12 posted on 05/04/2003 3:04:11 PM PDT by sd-joe
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To: FairOpinion
Message from the least significant, unacknowledged member of the minority party:

"All you Republican Senators defying Bush- look at me!"

13 posted on 05/04/2003 3:04:40 PM PDT by mrsmith
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To: anniegetyourgun
Lest we get overconfident, Illinois is highly likely to elect a Dem senator to replace Fitzgerald. This is because the Illinois Republican party has become completely corrupted. It is likely they will nominate a RINO and the conservatives will not vote for the RINO. And the Dems now control the Illinois state government lock, stock, and barrel.
14 posted on 05/04/2003 3:05:31 PM PDT by dark_lord (The Statue of Liberty now holds a baseball bat and she's yelling 'You want a piece of me?')
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To: mrsmith
Message from the least significant, unacknowledged member of the minority party:
"All you Republican Senators defying Bush- look at me!"
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Great point!! That should make all would be Republican traitors think twice about defecting from the Republican party.
15 posted on 05/04/2003 3:06:42 PM PDT by FairOpinion
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To: FairOpinion
Who is Jim Jeffords?
16 posted on 05/04/2003 3:07:23 PM PDT by GreatOne (You will bow down before me, Son of Jor-el!)
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To: dark_lord
"(The Statue of Liberty now holds a baseball bat and she's yelling 'You want a piece of me?') "

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Great sig line! :)
17 posted on 05/04/2003 3:08:18 PM PDT by FairOpinion
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To: anniegetyourgun
misunderestimate

Is that really a word?

One can estimate. One can also underestimate. If you "misunderestimate" does that mean you are back to estimate? Or still in the underestimate category?

Such complicated issues for a great Sunday afternoon, no? I’m not being the grammar Nazi here, I can - and frequently do - butcher with the best of them! Just never seen that word used before. My spell checker does not like it either.

LVM

18 posted on 05/04/2003 3:08:25 PM PDT by LasVegasMac
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To: sd-joe
Getting rid of Jeffords was a hugh plus for the Republicans in the long run.

I can you are series.

LVM

19 posted on 05/04/2003 3:10:28 PM PDT by LasVegasMac
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To: LasVegasMac
Misunderestimate = a Bushism.
20 posted on 05/04/2003 3:12:18 PM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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To: LasVegasMac
misunderestimate
Is that really a word?

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It is now.

http://edition.cnn.com/2003/EDUCATION/01/15/offbeat.bushisms.reut/

Don't misunderestimate Bushisms
Wednesday, January 15, 2003 Posted: 10:34 AM EST (1534 GMT)

BUSHISMS:
Misunderestimate To seriously underestimate.
Embetter To make emotionally better -- the opposite of embitter.
Resignate As in "They said this issue wouldn't resignate with the people."
Foreign-handed As in "I have a foreign-handed foreign policy."


LOS ANGELES, California (Reuters) -- Don't "misunderestimate" Dubya. Those verbal Bushisms are beginning to "resignate" with the American people. Maybe they'll even "embetter" the English language.

They may have started out as verbal slip-ups but several of President George W. Bush's mangled phrases found their way on Tuesday to a list of the top words of 2002.

"There are already 11,000 instances of 'misunderestimate' on the Web. The more people use words, whether jocularly or seriously, the more likely they are to enter the language and last for generations," said Paul J.J. Payack, chairman of yourDictionary.com, which compiled the list.

Payack, a man who refuses to misunderestimate the power of a president to shape the language, said, "Our lists attempt to capture those ... innovations in word choice and usage that tell us something about ourselves."

The list of most important words of 2002 was drawn up with help from visitors to the yourDictionary.com Web site and from the site's group of linguists, who monitor the use of the English language around the world.

They include the so-called Bushisms; misunderestimate (to seriously underestimate), embetter (to make emotionally better -- the opposite of embitter), resignate (as in "They said this issue wouldn't resignate with the people") and foreign-handed (as in "I have a foreign-handed foreign policy").

In non-Bushisms, the post-September 11 world gave birth to "threat fatigue," while America's corporate and financial shenanigans introduced the verb to nasdaq (as in "His fortune was nasdaqued"), Nasdaq being the tech-heavy stock market.

There is also that well-known accounting practice disease known as Enronitis, and dot-communism (the conviction that everything on the Web should be free or, at least, paid for by someone else.)

But the most frequently used word on the planet, whatever the native language, is still "OK."


21 posted on 05/04/2003 3:13:28 PM PDT by FairOpinion
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To: FairOpinion
the Club for Growth, a conservative advocacy group, has run ads showing Voinovich and Snowe flanked by the French flag, which was not meant as a compliment.

A very ham-fisted attempt by the Club for Growth and their media firm Red Sea LLC. Accomplished absolutely nothing.

22 posted on 05/04/2003 3:15:14 PM PDT by montag813
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To: anniegetyourgun; FairOpinion
added to the spell checker.

LVM

23 posted on 05/04/2003 3:15:57 PM PDT by LasVegasMac
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To: FairOpinion
The last time we tried this, a closet Democrat left our ranks, and one election later we took over the Senate. And the people got tax relief.

Sounds like a good deal to me.

24 posted on 05/04/2003 3:16:05 PM PDT by William McKinley (You're so vain, you probably think this tagline's about you)
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To: LasVegasMac
There's realvideo and scripts of the ad here. pics here

another one of theirs:


heh!

25 posted on 05/04/2003 3:21:40 PM PDT by lainie
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To: FairOpinion
eff you jeffords...you're hystory, as in hysterectomy, you POS.

FMCDH

26 posted on 05/04/2003 3:24:33 PM PDT by nothingnew
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To: LasVegasMac
Are you familiar with "strategery?"
27 posted on 05/04/2003 3:25:23 PM PDT by Bahbah
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To: FairOpinion
Jim "Scarlet Letter" Jeffords giving the Democrap response, that is appropriate. The Democraps needed a political whore and they got the biggest one in the Bob & Billie Club (formerly U.S. Senate)!
28 posted on 05/04/2003 3:27:43 PM PDT by leprechaun9
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To: William McKinley
"The last time we tried this, a closet Democrat left our ranks, and one election later we took over the Senate."

More like we had to take it over again. And I'll bet the next to use the republican party to get elected just to run will be McCain. He couldn't beat Bush using the GOP last time, he won't even get that close this time.

But Jeffords brings something else to mind. Since he is no longer a republican, how is he going to get re-elected from a conservative voting state if he is a liberal and has to run against a real Bush backing conservative? Good luck and good bye Jim!
29 posted on 05/04/2003 3:29:51 PM PDT by Redwood71
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To: Bahbah
Yes, that one I've heard.

LVM

30 posted on 05/04/2003 3:30:42 PM PDT by LasVegasMac
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To: lainie
Thank you - great stuff!

LVM

31 posted on 05/04/2003 3:33:19 PM PDT by LasVegasMac
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To: LasVegasMac
>> "I can you are series."

Yes, Hugh and series. :)
32 posted on 05/04/2003 3:33:38 PM PDT by sd-joe
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To: TLBSHOW
Snowe and Voinovich








33 posted on 05/04/2003 3:34:58 PM PDT by ThreePuttinDude (The greatest 3 innings in baseball history ....8-8-88)
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To: FairOpinion
Jeffords said in delivering the Democrats' response to Bush's weekly radio address...

This nitwit's IQ has fallen to single digits...

Maybe Vermonters can elect a cadavor next time.

34 posted on 05/04/2003 3:36:32 PM PDT by F16Fighter (Democrats -- The Party of Stalin and Chiraq)
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To: sd-joe
spell checkers suck.

LVM

35 posted on 05/04/2003 3:36:48 PM PDT by LasVegasMac
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To: FairOpinion
Hey, Jimbo. How does it feel to be constantly referred to as the "ranking member"? How does it feel to be constantly referred to as "the minority"?

Suck it up, Jimbo, it ain't going to get any better.
36 posted on 05/04/2003 3:37:28 PM PDT by jackbill
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To: FairOpinion
This can backfire both ways. Snowe and Voinovich can bolt, but the fury that will be unleashed on them will not be pretty. Time for some tough talk at the woodshed. You are either with us or against us. Choose wisely.
37 posted on 05/04/2003 3:39:07 PM PDT by VRWC For Truth
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To: LasVegasMac
JEFFY-WHO!!!!
38 posted on 05/04/2003 3:40:20 PM PDT by jocko12
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39 posted on 05/04/2003 3:43:54 PM PDT by lainie
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To: Redwood71
I wish Vermont was a conservative voting state. Dean was Governor, Bernie Sanders (openly socialist) is the Representative, and the other Senator is Patrick Leahy.

If that is a conservative voting state, give me a liberal voting one.

40 posted on 05/04/2003 3:44:46 PM PDT by William McKinley (You're so vain, you probably think this tagline's about you)
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To: FairOpinion
In the excerpted part of the article, it suggest Voinovich and Snowne are being "villified." I don't see any evidence of that by and large. I have doubts about as large a tax cut as Bush wants myself. In any event, I suspect Jeffords is simply projected his own twisted saga onto others whom, while perhaps somewhat moderate, are not Benedict Arnolds, try to be team players consistent with their own consciences and good judgment, and at bottom, find little that is attractive about the current state of the Democrat party. OK, maybe I'm projecting, but that is the way I see it.
41 posted on 05/04/2003 3:44:50 PM PDT by Torie
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To: Redwood71
But Jeffords brings something else to mind. Since he is no longer a republican, how is he going to get re-elected from a conservative voting state if he is a liberal and has to run against a real Bush backing conservative? Good luck and good bye Jim!

Vermont a conservative voting state? The state that elects Bernie the socialist?
42 posted on 05/04/2003 3:45:02 PM PDT by nospinzone
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To: jocko12
You know, the "dairy dude". HeHe.

LVM

43 posted on 05/04/2003 3:45:57 PM PDT by LasVegasMac
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To: FairOpinion
Yes Jim, and you're a prime example of what happens to people who abandon their principles, they end up being an "independent" with no friends.

I'm not as angry at Snow and Voinavich as some around here, but I think they're being silly and not approaching this in a smart manner. They could still get their spending concessions without looking like they are totally against tax cuts.

Frist needs to stand up more.

44 posted on 05/04/2003 3:46:16 PM PDT by McGavin999
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To: Torie
In the excerpted part of the article, it suggest Voinovich and Snowne are being "villified."
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That is Jefford's view. The article was written from Jefford's point of view, reflecting what he was saying, "warning" the GOP.
45 posted on 05/04/2003 3:49:30 PM PDT by FairOpinion
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To: FairOpinion
Bad attitude = attirude.
46 posted on 05/04/2003 3:59:45 PM PDT by gcruse (Piety is only skin deep, but hypocrisy goes clear to the soul.)
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To: anniegetyourgun
Pollsters are predicting a possible 8 seat gain by repubs in Senate ... I sure hope so!
47 posted on 05/04/2003 4:08:21 PM PDT by CyberAnt ( America - You Are The Greatest!!)
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To: FairOpinion
Jeffords, why does than name sound familiar? Didn't there use to be a Senator named Jeffords who became utterly irrelevant when the Republicans took back the Senate?
48 posted on 05/04/2003 4:13:02 PM PDT by Bubba_Leroy
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To: TLBSHOW
Maybe Olympia J. Snowe and George V. Voinovich are in talks with Jeffords to become full rats?

I've never understood just how this can happen. What about the VOTERS who elected Snowe & Voinovich (and Jeffers as well)? Doesn't switching parties after an election basically cause their votes to be null and void? I wondered this even when the switch was from Dem to GOP like Ben Whitehorse Johnson or whatever his name is. This kind of thing allows the unelected party to use threats and ultimately to rule. Isn't there some kind of law that could be used to prevent it?

49 posted on 05/04/2003 4:16:23 PM PDT by arasina
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To: montag813
Sorry! The attack ads shook up Voinovich (there isn't much there there to wake up Snow), and even better, it warned the Republican senators (a sorry lot if there ever was one) that the rank-and-file were paying attention. If the effort continues it could really shake-up the Republican Party. For example, conservatives in Arizona are pleading for a TV campaign to attack McCain on his miserable record on taxes. (His attempt to suborn the Constitution on free speech issues would be another matter.)
50 posted on 05/04/2003 4:18:21 PM PDT by gaspar
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