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I loathe America, and what it has done to the rest of the world.
Telegraph.Com ^ | Filed: 08/05/2003) | Margaret Drabble

Posted on 05/07/2003 5:15:08 PM PDT by Leisler

I knew that the wave of anti-Americanism that would swell up after the Iraq war would make me feel ill. And it has. It has made me much, much more ill than I had expected.

My anti-Americanism has become almost uncontrollable. It has possessed me, like a disease. It rises up in my throat like acid reflux, that fashionable American sickness. I now loathe the United States and what it has done to Iraq and the rest of the helpless world.

I can hardly bear to see the faces of Bush and Rumsfeld, or to watch their posturing body language, or to hear their self-satisfied and incoherent platitudes. The liberal press here has done its best to make them appear ridiculous, but these two men are not funny.

I was tipped into uncontainable rage by a report on Channel 4 News about "friendly fire", which included footage of what must have been one of the most horrific bombardments ever filmed. But what struck home hardest was the subsequent image, of a row of American warplanes, with grinning cartoon faces painted on their noses. Cartoon faces, with big sharp teeth.

It is grotesque. It is hideous. This great and powerful nation bombs foreign cities and the people in those cities from Disneyland cartoon planes out of comic strips. This is simply not possible. And yet, there they were.

Others have written eloquently about the euphemistic and affectionate names that the Americans give to their weapons of mass destruction: Big Boy, Little Boy, Daisy Cutter, and so forth.

We are accustomed to these sobriquets; to phrases such as "collateral damage" and "friendly fire" and "pre-emptive strikes". We have almost ceased to notice when suicide bombers are described as "cowards". The abuse of language is part of warfare. Long ago, Voltaire told us that we invent words to conceal truths. More recently, Orwell pointed out to us the dangers of Newspeak.

But there was something about those playfully grinning warplane faces that went beyond deception and distortion into the land of madness. A nation that can allow those faces to be painted as an image on its national aeroplanes has regressed into unimaginable irresponsibility. A nation that can paint those faces on death machines must be insane.

There, I have said it. I have tried to control my anti-Americanism, remembering the many Americans that I know and respect, but I can't keep it down any longer. I detest Disneyfication, I detest Coca-Cola, I detest burgers, I detest sentimental and violent Hollywood movies that tell lies about history.

I detest American imperialism, American infantilism, and American triumphalism about victories it didn't even win.

On April 29, 2000, I switched on CNN in my hotel room and, by chance, saw an item designed to celebrate the 25th anniversary of the end of the Vietnam war. The camera showed us a street scene in which a shabby elderly Vietnamese man was seen speaking English and bartering in dollars in a city that I took to be Ho Chi Minh City, still familiarly known in America by its old French colonial name of Saigon.

"The language of Shakespeare," the commentator intoned, "has conquered Vietnam." I did not note down the dialogue, though I can vouch for that sentence about the language of Shakespeare. But the word "dollar" was certainly repeated several times, and the implications of what the camera showed were clear enough.

The elderly Vietnamese man was impoverished, and he wanted hard currency. The Vietnamese had won the war, but had lost the peace.

Just leave Shakespeare and Shakespeare's homeland out of this squalid bit of revisionism, I thought at the time. Little did I then think that now, three years on, Shakespeare's country would have been dragged by our leader into this illegal, unjustifiable, aggressive war. We are all contaminated by it. Not in my name, I want to keep repeating, though I don't suppose anybody will listen.

America uses the word "democracy" as its battle cry, and its nervous soldiers gun down Iraqi civilians when they try to hold street demonstrations to protest against the invasion of their country. So much for democracy. (At least the British Army is better trained.)

America is one of the few countries in the world that executes minors. Well, it doesn't really execute them - it just keeps them in jail for years and years until they are old enough to execute, and then it executes them. It administers drugs to mentally disturbed prisoners on Death Row until they are back in their right mind, and then it executes them, too.

They call this justice and the rule of law. America is holding more than 600 people in detention in Guantánamo Bay, indefinitely, and it may well hold them there for ever. Guantánamo Bay has become the Bastille of America. They call this serving the cause of democracy and freedom.

I keep writing to Jack Straw about the so-called "illegal combatants", including minors, who are detained there without charge or trial or access to lawyers, and I shall go on writing to him and his successors until something happens. This one-way correspondence may last my lifetime. I suppose the minors won't be minors for long, although the youngest of them is only 13, so in time I shall have to drop that part of my objection, but I shall continue to protest.

A great democratic nation cannot behave in this manner. But it does. I keep remembering those words from Nineteen Eighty-Four, on the dynamics of history at the end of history, when O'Brien tells Winston: "Always there will be the intoxication of power… Always, at every moment, there will be the thrill of victory, the sensation of trampling on an enemy who is helpless. If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face - for ever."

We have seen enough boots in the past few months to last us a lifetime. Iraqi boots, American boots, British boots. Enough of boots.

I hate feeling this hatred. I have to keep reminding myself that if Bush hadn't been (so narrowly) elected, we wouldn't be here, and none of this would have happened. There is another America. Long live the other America, and may this one pass away soon.

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To: ThanhPhero
Link here.
141 posted on 05/07/2003 6:05:30 PM PDT by Leisler
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To: Leisler

This vile little cu#t wants us to remain a nation of victims so that her conciensce might be salved.

I, for one, refuse to lay down and take the barbarism dished out by the Arab world.

I will tell her so, myself.

Be Seeing You,


142 posted on 05/07/2003 6:06:40 PM PDT by section9 (Major Kusanagi: back from vacation! Tanned, rested, and ready.....)
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To: Paul Atreides
I imagine she does more than her part in keeping Duracell in business.

Just like Mo Dowd.

143 posted on 05/07/2003 6:06:41 PM PDT by NeoCaveman (Belgium is France's mimi-me)
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To: Travis McGee
If it wasn't for big mean Americans with cartoon characters painted on their tanks and bombers, she would be speaking German today, and wearing a swastika on her uniform.

She knows that, why do you think she's so pissed?

144 posted on 05/07/2003 6:07:30 PM PDT by Alouette (Why is it called "International Law" if only Israel and the United States are expected to keep it?)
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To: dubyaismypresident
Duracell? Hell, she's been to RadioShack:

145 posted on 05/07/2003 6:09:52 PM PDT by Petronski (I'm not always cranky.)
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To: kpml; fightinJAG
"History didn't start with 911." Would you care to enlighten us ,o learned one, and point us to the light?
146 posted on 05/07/2003 6:09:56 PM PDT by MEG33
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To: Leisler
Must have a lot of French in her bloodline.
147 posted on 05/07/2003 6:11:29 PM PDT by Beck_isright (If France actually won a war that mattered, would the world come to an end?)
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To: Leisler
148 posted on 05/07/2003 6:12:05 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: Leroy S. Mort
How about a Sorry, no good, skin wasting, Birkenstock wearing, patchouli oil saturated, sack of crap Alert?
149 posted on 05/07/2003 6:12:33 PM PDT by Axenolith (I wish I may, I wish I might ...have pizza for my dinner tonight.)
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To: Leisler
Poor Drabber! Margaret, get a grip. You don't have to have any intercourse with America, or Americans. We won't mind if you ignore, even snub us. Actually, we'd prefer it.

We actually like to name our weapons of mass destruction, paint fierce faces on our war planes, we mean business.

However did the Brits, the Empire the Sun never set upon, turn into such a small nation of soggy squashy individuals? where are the the descendents of the savages that knocked the stuffings out of Cesaer? They are disgusting in their frenzied hatred of the US when I suspect it is really disgust for themselves that motivates then and pure envy that fuels the fire.
150 posted on 05/07/2003 6:12:34 PM PDT by wingnuts'nbolts (/)
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Poor woman. She's got to sneak up on her mirror in the morning.

Nam Vet

151 posted on 05/07/2003 6:12:35 PM PDT by Nam Vet (It may be that your sole purpose in life is simply to serve as a warning to others.)
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To: All
It is grotesque. It is hideous. This great and powerful nation [read Britian] bombs foreign cities and the people in those cities from Disneyland cartoon planes out of comic strips. This is simply not possible. And yet, there they were.

The British RAF, WWII, Germany, what the heck.

152 posted on 05/07/2003 6:12:50 PM PDT by Terp (Retired US Navy now living in Philippines were the Moutains meet the Sea in the Land of Smiles)
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To: BlackBirdII
"Incredible how far the British have fallen when drivel like this can get published."

Drabble's op-ed appeared in the Telegraph, Britain's most reliably conservative broadsheet.

My guess is they printed Drabble's hysterical drivel for the same reason that Limbaugh puts liberal callers at the front of the line...and then gives them free rein to rant and splutter.

Because it's illuminating! Exposure like this shows us what the left is really made of: Insane hatred of America and everything it stands for.

Everybody who read this vomitorium of bile in the Telegraph got a clear look at the enemy -- and a ration of chuckles and guffaws out of it. Just like we are, here on FR.

153 posted on 05/07/2003 6:13:40 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE.)
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To: Taffini
a lot of whiskey and a very dark room and a man with no scruples could do the job...he may need a loboyomy afterward though

I appears that at least a couple of (most likely) similarly endowed men have already done it......

"In 1960 she married her first husband, actor Clive Swift, who is best known for his role in the 1990 BBC television comedy "Keeping Up Appearances." They had three children in the 1960's and divorced in 1975. She subsequently married the biographer Michael Holroyd in the early 1980's. They live in London and also have a house in Somerset."

154 posted on 05/07/2003 6:13:48 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: Leisler

A special compilation mixed JUST FOR Ms. Drabble

Over 60% of Iraqis are under the age of 20

U.S. Marine Corps Maj. Chris Hughes shares some time with an Iraqi girl while U.S. Marines distribute food and water to Iraqi citizens.

A local Iraqi girl shows her enthusiasm for the US being in Iraq with a homemade sign.

U.S. Army Lt. Col. Tracy Wright of the 308th Civil Affairs Brigade speaks to a civil engineer in Ramatha, Iraq, on April 9, 2003. Lt. Col. Wright is gathering information that will help aide the Iraqi people improve its water efficiency and distribution. The U.S. Army Corps of Engineer and various Civil Affairs units are deployed in support of Operation Iraqi Freedom. (U.S. Army photo by Sgt. Kyran V. Adams)

Iraqis share a laugh with a U.S. Army Specialist Michael Toro during an effort to distribute food and water to Iraqi citizens in need. (U.S. Navy photo by Photographer's Mate 1st Class Arlo K. Abrahamson)

A U.S. soldier stops an Iraqi boy from walking out into traffic with him, as the soldier directs traffic accross a temporary Army bridge on the main road out of Baghdad, Wednesday, May 7, 2003. (AP Photo/Brennan Linsley)

Chanting in English, "New clean era! New clean figures", some 400 Iraqi doctors and medical personnel stand in front of an U.S. Army checkpoint after they marched through the center of Baghdad, Wednesday, May 7, 2003. Hundreds of Iraqi doctors in white lab coats took to the street Wednesday, insisting they will not accept the U.S. appointed head of the Health Ministry because of his ties to the overthrown regime of Saddam Hussein.(AP Photo/Alexander Zemlianichenko)

An Iraqi woman Suham Jassem and her five-month old nephew Muhammed Khaled board a train at Baghdad Central Station, Iraq, Wednesday May 7, 2003, to leave for the southern city of Basra. A passenger train departed from the Iraqi capital to the southern city of Basra for the first time since the start of the U.S.-led invasion. (AP Photo/Murad Sezer)

Iraqi students talk to each other as they arrive at the Baghdad State University Saturday, May 3, 2003. With the fall of Saddam Hussein, some Iraqi women say the future has never looked more hopeful. Others fear that men like the thousands marching outside will bring an extremist state; one that forces Iraqi women, among the region's most educated, to retreat to their homes.. (AP Photo/Alexander Zemlianichenko)

Two young Iraqis hang out of their van to watch U.S. Marines patrolling a main street in a western town of An Nasiriyah. U.S. Marine Corps photo by Lance Cpl Brent Harvey

An Iraqi family comes outside to wave to U.S. Marines patrolling in a western town of An Nasiriyah, Iraq, in support of Operation Iraqi Freedom. U.S. Marine Corps photo by Lance Cpl Brent Harvey

An Iraqi family stands outside the back of their house to show support for the U.S. Marine presense in a western town of An Nasariyah, Iraq. U.S. Marine Corps photo by Lance Cpl. Brent Harvey

Gen. Tommy Franks talks with Sgt. Lucas Goddard and Sgt. James Ward of the 327th Infantry Regiment, 101st Airborne Division, before giving them Bronze Stars for valor in combat. U.S. Army photo by Pfc. Joshua Hutcheson

IIraqi children step outside their door and wave as U.S. Marines pass by on a tour through a western town of An Nasiriyah, Iraq. U.S. Marine Corps photo by Lance Cpl. Brent Harvey

Iraqi boys in a village near the city of Najaf in Central Iraq appear glad to be back in school April 4, for the first time since the war started. U.S. Army soldiers from the 422nd Civil Affairs Battalion helped clean up the school that was damaged by artillery fire. The soldiers also took money out of their own pockets to pay the teacher several months salary in advance. U.S. Army photo by Staff Sgt. Kevin P. Bell

A soldier from the 422nd Civil Affairs Battalion speaks with a boy while bags of rice and wheat are delivered to a village near the city of Najaf in central Iraq on April 4. U.S. Army photo by Staff Sgt. Kevin P. Bell

An Iraqi girl attends to her lessons April 4 in a village school near the city of Najaf. U.S. Army photo by Staff Sgt. Kevin P. Bell

An Iraqi boy offers a flower to a British solider during patrols in Basra, April 8, 2003. Photo by Mark Richards, Pool/Reuters

Young girls hold hands as they walk with their father down a street on the outskirts of the town of Al Hillah south of Baghdad, April 9, 2003.

A smiling Iraqi woman holds her baby as a column of U.S. vehicles from the 2nd Battalion, 70 Armor passes through the town of Kerbala south west of Baghdad, April 7, 2003.

A member of 21 Squadron in Britain's 3 Regular Army Air Corps, 16 Air Assault Brigade, walks beside an Iraqi boy near the city of Basra in southern Iraq, April 7, 2003.

Iraqi women and children dance with joy as they see soldiers from Britain's 1st Battalion The Parachute Regiment enter their village, north of the city of Basra in southern Iraq, April 7, 2003

British Soldiers from 16 Air Assault Brigade throw chocolate bars from their ration packs to Iraqi children, in the village of Qaryat Nasr north of of the city of Basra, in southern Iraq, April 7, 2003.

Baby W!

Regimental Combat Team 1 gives medical attention to Iraqi civilians who led the Marines to a weapons cache in Aziz, Iraq

An Iraqi woman guides her daughter while taking a walk in a western town of An Nasiriyah, Iraq. U.S. Marine Corps photo by Lance Cpl. Brent Harvey

Iraqi children lean out onto a street from a corner to show their emotions towards the presence of the Marines in a western town of An Nasiriyah. Iraq. U.S. Marine Corps photo by Lance Cpl Brent Harvey

Two Iraqi girls run down a street to greet U. S. Marines in a western town of An Nasiriyah, Iraq, on April 17 who are there in support of Operation Iraqi Freedom. U.S. Marine Corps photo by Lance Cpl. Brent Harvey

Kids are digging them Marines!

"We are happy, so happy. For us, this is the real meaning of freedom."
Basim Hajar, coauthor and director of a play criticizing Saddam Hussein’s regime performed in a building where -- before the war -- only works sanctioned by the government were allowed. Los Angeles Times, 5/5/03

"You cannot imagine what it means for us to be here on this national stage, where everything we stand for was forbidden. Now it is ours."
Oday Rashid, an Iraqi musician and documentary filmmaker, Los Angeles Times, 5/5/03

"Officials with the Iraqi National Team said they hoped to begin training soon for the Olympic qualification games to be held next month in Damascus, Syria. About 200 athletes and other sports officials planned a demonstration (May 5) in Baghdad to drum up support for an Iraqi sports federation to replace the one headed by Saddam Hussein's son, Uday. Uday is said to have tortured and killed athletes who failed to win or performed worse than expected."
New York Times, 5/5/03

"This is the first step on the road to democracy. I promise I will be a faithful soldier."
Ghanam al-Basso, newly elected as Mosul’s mayor in Iraq’s first vote since Saddam Hussein was ousted, New York Times, 5/5/03

"This is something I just can’t forego. I’ve been waiting for this moment for at least 30 years."
Fawaz Saraf, an Iraqi in Virginia who is headed to his homeland to help rebuild, Washington Post, 5/4/03

"I think they suffered a lot, and they lost a lot when Saddam came to power. They lost their country. They lost their comforts. They felt so powerless, and they saw such intense suffering by the people who couldn’t leave the country. It’s so important for him to rebuild it."
Magda Cabrero, Saraf’s wife, 5/4/03

"I saw the world for the first time. I saw where we were. I saw presidents and cities and people from everywhere! The whole world!"
School Principal Bushra Cesar, after buying a satellite TV dish, New York Times, 5/4/03

"Before, so many books were forbidden -- anything that didn’t agree with the regime. Which means practically everything that was ever printed!"
Imad Saad, a teacher selling books at a Baghdad street market, Los Angeles Times, 5/3/03

"Now, everyone is talking and talking and talking, without worrying, and without stopping. About absolutely everything."
Mohammed Hishali, Café proprietor in Baghdad, Los Angeles Times, 5/3/03

"We will keep on somehow. Now we have the most important thing that we need. There is no one to stop us from saying anything we want onstage."
Basim Hajar, coauthor and director of a play criticizing Saddam Hussein’s regime performed in a building where -- before the war -- only works sanctioned by the government were allowed. Los Angeles Times, 5/5/03

"Before, if I had sold this, they would have cut my head from my body."
Imad Saad, selling a copy of an opposition-run paper, Los Angeles, 5/3/03

"You tell Mr. Bush I think he must be a Muslim for what he did for us.... This is God's land. Everyone deserves it. Every Christian, every Jew and every Muslim needs to live in peace -- and eat from God's gifts -- not from Saddam Hussein's hands." Abdul Razak al Naami, a sergeant in the Iraqi army until the Americans arrived, Knight Ridder, 4-29-03 "Saddam and his birthday were a black cloud over Iraq. We all want peace and freedom. He deprived us of these things."
Moayed al-Duleimi, Associated Press, 4-29-03

"Today is a day of happiness for me, because we got rid of him. He destroyed us. We ask God that he never returns, because we are happy and -- God willing -- things will be better."
Munhal Taleb, Associated Press, 4-29-03

"After the war, we will see our country change for the better, with freedom."
Jamila Jorj, a teacher in Baghdad,Washington Post, 4-29-03

"The resumption of school in Baghdad is the clearest sign of hope for the future that many Iraqis have had in years."
Washington Post, 4-29-03

"We had an open process of discussion among Iraqis that has made me really optimistic about the future. We heard a wide spectrum of views. This (political meeting) is something Iraqis have not been able to do in 45 years."
Feisal Istrabadi, Washington Post, 4-29-03

"Until this year, the birthday of Saddam required joyous, staged public festivals for the leader of the 35-year, iron-fisted regime. We would pretend we were happy, but on the inside we were sad."
Abdul Razak al Naami, Knight Ridder, 4-29-03

"Iraqi people have a double personality. One is me when I am in front of people related to the Baath Party, the secret services, the family of Saddam; I support them. Otherwise they would definitely put me in the jail or execute me. Among friends, people I know I can trust, I tell them what I really feel. Most Iraqis have that double personality."
Shafiq Qadoura, Newsday, 4-29-03

"The soldiers of the 4th Infantry Division received a much-needed and entirely unexpected treat when, after months of waiting, their convoy finally reached Baghdad: the sight of a Toyota filled with eight gleeful Iraqis, all waving and cheering. Then came thousands of other Iraqis, in cars and alongside the road, who hailed the U.S. Army troops as the Humvees passed through the city. The soldiers had missed most of the war after Turkey denied their division passage into northern Iraq from Turkish soil."
Los Angeles Times, 4-29-03

"America is like a new friend. I just met him. I must give him a chance."
Haidar Ali al-Assadi, New York Times, 4-28-03

"Freedom has been inside us all along. But until now we haven't practiced it."
Hamed Hussein, Sun-Sentinel (Fort Lauderdale), 4-28-03

"We are here hopefully to put down the structure or agree on the skeleton of a government. We are here to represent Iraqi women, who have in the past played very little role in Iraqi politics."
Delegate Zainab al-Suwaij at a political meeting in Baghdad, 4-28-03

"The people today after they were liberated from Saddam want security and stability. People want real participation. I am participating in this conference because those who are concerned with Iraqi issues must hear the voice of the people."
Delegate Hussein Sadr at a political meeting in Baghdad, 4-28-03

"Coming home after years abroad, Iraqis hugged and kissed as the gathering began. ‘In Baghdad?’ one delegate asked another in disbelief. ‘Yes, in Baghdad,’ the other replied."
Associated Press, report of political meeting in Baghdad, 4-28-03

"Whenever we had those elections for president, everyone voted for him 100 percent. And today nothing will happen, and this will prove that none of us liked him, not a one."
Hussein al-Khafaji, an Iraqi air force colonel, Associated Press, 4-28-03

"Saddam was a criminal, a dictator, and fascist. I thank the Americans a lot -- we praise them for ending Saddam, with God’s help."
Khalid Rahim Hussein, Christian Science Monitor, 4-28-03

"On one patrol this week, a boy tending his father's small grocery grabbed Air Force Technical Sgt. Keith Westheimer's notebook and wrote a message in broken English, hoping someone with clout would see it: ‘People Iraqi in Mosul need king leader of Mosul. People Iraqi very happy because Americans are here. Thank you. Karim Salah, 17 years old.’"
Newsday, 4-27-03

"It is a happy day for us because we can pray freely. It has been a long time."
Mohamed Ghalib, Associated Press, 4/25/03

"A 30-year-old secretary in Baghdad named Lina Daoud ponders what lies ahead. Her words come out as pastel bubbles: ‘We want a happy future, we want technology, we want freedom, we want everything.'"
Washington Post, 4/25/03

"It’s a sight one old leatherneck said he ‘will never, ever, ever forget’: a man bent and wizened by age, pushing a wheelchair through the streets of a small town in Iraq. In the wheelchair was ‘an extremely bent, aged old woman,’ barely able to keep her balance in the rickety contraption. As Marine Lt. Gen. Earl B. Hailston, commander of U.S. Marine Corps Forces for U. S. Central Command, passed by in his Humvee, the Iraqi couple caught his eye. ‘Both gave a thumbs up, and the old woman started blowing kisses. It’s something that will never leave my mind.'"
Stars and Stripes, 4/25/03

“We are free to do things that were forbidden before.”
Ahmed Rubai, who sells previously banned satellite dishes, Wall Street Journal, 4-24-03

“The long-oppressed Saudi Shiites would have been heartened by their Iraqi counterparts' new-found freedom to practice their religious rituals. This will encourage them to press for their own rights.”
Saudi Arabian human rights activist Abdul Aziz al-Khamis, Agence France Presse, 4-24-03

“It was like a dream. We heard the bombs falling and I thought: 'We will die here.' But God gave me a new life.”
Annis Mohammed Saboowalla, Associated Press, 4-24-03

“’We couldn't talk about all this under Saddam, we couldn't look for our relatives who had disappeared or we would disappear too,’ says one man, sliding his thumb across his throat. “Being a relative of a prisoner meant your women could be raped, your houses destroyed and all your belongings confiscated, so most people kept quiet.’”
An Iraqi man, Financial Times (London), 4-24-03

“With the end of Saddam Hussein's rule, hundreds of thousands of Shi'ites from across Iraq were free to take part in this year's pilgrimage unhindered by the security forces who once outnumbered and arrested them. As they entered the shrine to pray, women kissed its marble walls and great wooden doors. As they exited, men bowed deeply towards the shrine before turning their backs. Shi'ites estimate that hundreds of thousands, some say several million, have reached Karbala.”
The Australian, 4-24-03

“We used to be executed or thrown in jail forever for doing this when Saddam Hussein was in power.”
Alaa al-Sarraf, in a procession, Reuters, 4-23-03

“This week marked the first time in nearly 30 years that Iraq's majority Shi'a Muslims could pray without fear of reprisal or execution by the government, and more than 1 million people flooded the holy city of Karbala to pay homage at the shrines of Hussein and Abbas, two of the most holy places for Shi'ites.”
The Boston Globe, 4-23-03

“This is the first time here for me. It is as if I am waking from a nightmare.”
Mohammed Jabal, in a procession, Reuters, 4-23-03

“We're still awaiting our freedom, but this is the first taste of it.”
Adnan Abdel-Mohsin, Washington Post, 4-23-03

“…crowds seemed to explode with fervor over their newfound freedoms. Long processions from Baghdad and cities in southern Iraq – Samawah, Nasiriyah, Najaf and Basra – paraded through the streets, waving green, black and red banners. Many stopped every few minutes to break into chants, beating their chests or foreheads in a ritual known as lutm.”
Washington Post, 4-23-03

“As in many lower-class parts of Iraq, some residents said U.S. President George W. Bush had the right idea in wanting to rid Iraq of Saddam. For two decades, the lower classes have been impoverished to the point where they felt they had nothing to lose.”
Victoria Times-Colonist (Canada), 4-23-03

“Bush gives us freedom. He is giving us a future.”
Abbas Ibrahim, Victoria Times-Colonist (Canada), 4-23-03

“For decades, we were used to watching ourselves. Now you can think with words. But to talk loudly and to think loudly takes time. Freedom needs practice, and it takes practice to be free.”
Poet Mohammed Thamer, Washington Post, 4-22-03

“For two-and-a-half decades, the religious spectacle unfolding in Iraq was unknown. The country's Shiite majority, brutally repressed by Saddam's Sunni-dominated cabal, was nominally permitted to make the pilgrimage, but given little freedom to do so in practice…. If pilgrims managed to make the journey at all, they did so under a cloud of secrecy and fear. And yet, this amazing story of religious freedom reborn has largely been ignored. Instead, the front pages of newspapers have been dominated by transient stories of looting and unrest.”
The National Post (Canada), 4/22/03

“I cannot believe I am here today openly celebrating. The government used to shoot us when we tried in the past.”
Hamid Muhammad, New York Times, 4/22/03

“I walked all the way from Al Hendia to Karbala. I am so excited I am able to visit Hussein (revered son-in-law of Muhammad) now without fear.”
Mona Ibrahim, New York Times, 4/22/03

“We were prohibited from visiting these shrines for a long time by the Baath Party and their agents. This year we thank God for ridding us of the dictator Saddam Hussein and for letting us visit these shrines.”
Abed Ali Ghilan, Associated Press Television News, 4/22/03

“To the south of Baghdad, thousands of Shiite Muslims converged on two of Iraq's holy cities, exercising religious freedom long denied them under Saddam.”
Associated Press, 4/22/03

“We are happy because we can follow our religion and Saddam Hussein is gone.”
Ziat Haddi, The Gazette (Montreal, Quebec), 4/22/03

“Chanting and singing, hundreds of thousands of Shiite Muslims from across Iraq walked toward the holy city of Karbala on Monday, freely making a pilgrimage that had been banned by Iraqi President Saddam Hussein.”
Knight Ridder/Tribune News Service, 4/22/03

“I say thank you (U.S. President George W.) Bush and thank you (British Prime Minister Tony) Blair. Whatever the reason, if it wasn’t for them, Saddam and his sons would be still around for another hundred years.”
Mohsen Abdul Ali Zubei, Agence France Presse, 4/22/03

“More than 1 million Shiites have been marching to Karbala, eager to reach the shrine in time for today's mass rites. They have marched, as tradition prescribes, because their annual season of mourning has come to an end. And this year, they have marched because they could. This is the first time in decades that Iraq's Shiites have been free to commemorate the death of Imam Hussein, grandson of the prophet Muhammad.”
Orlando Sentinel 4/22/03

"We need a natural life, a democratic life, like in any other country…when I came into Baghdad, I saw the ruins, but I also saw something else: freedom. We can be free."
Asad Quasi, a militia member, Washington Post, 17 April 2003

"Iraq has just emerged from a nightmare that lasted 35 years. The problems that Iraq has suffered under the rule of Saddam's regime cannot be eliminated in one or two days. Iraqis must hold several meetings until they agree on what they deem appropriate for the establishment of an interim government representing all Iraqi factions and capable of preparing a permanent constitution top be submitted to the people through a public referendum before the nature of [the next] government could be agreed. This requires a long time."
Muhammad Bahr-al-Ulum, Egyptian Radio, 16 April 2003

"I am ready to help. Thank you for liberating Iraq and making it stable, I hope we have a very good friendship with the United States."
Iraqi General Mohammed Jarawi to US Colonel Curtis Potts after signing the surrender in western Iraq, Gold Coast Bulletin (Australia), 16 April 2003

"A good leader can bring many things to Iraq. I can see democracy happening in Iraq because they are good people. They may take some time getting used to it, but I can see it happening."
Tahani Hanna, 18 year old Iraqi expatirate, The Standard (St. Catharines) 16 April 2003

"The people of Iraq do not want Islamic rule. For 35 years we have lived with no freedom, and these religious leaders are not offering us freedom."
Taleb, Theater Director in Nasiriyah, London Daily Telegraph, 4-16-03

“It was a great day…I never thought I would have this freedom.”
Lt Sadeq Abdul Mohsen, deserted from Iraqi 63rd Infantry Brigade, Newsweek, 4-21-03

“I can't express my feelings. All I feel is joy. This is the first time I've seen this (Shiite celebrations) for 30 years. Saddam forbade everything. He forced us underground.”
Sami Abbas, a Shia at the holy shrine of Kadhimiy, Washington Post, 4-16-03

"I was afraid when I saw my city again, I would die of happiness…this is the first day of my life."
Ahmed Yassin Hamakarim upon return to Kirkuk, which his family had fled 15-years ago, U.S. News and World Report, 4-21-03

"'Under Saddam, we were not allowed to have beards,' as he fondly rubs a week's growth of stubble on his chin. 'This was just one more rule against the Shiite.'"
Feraz Hasan, Iraqi merchant, Toronto Star, 4-16-03

“As I drove into Basra, an ebullient crowd on a truck was dragging a statue of Saddam Hussein through the streets. When people saw me pull out my camera, they began cheering and whacking Saddam's face. ‘Thank you, Mr. Bush,’ one called out in English, and it was delicious to watch this celebration of newfound freedom."
The Gazette (Montreal, Canada), 4-14-03

“Storming the Al-Salam Presidential Palace, the looters marveled bitterly at Saddam's life of luxury as they passed shards of crystal from chandeliers and shattered mirrors. ‘That's how our pharaoh lived,’ said one man, who would not give his name. ‘Look how he lived when we couldn't even get bread,’ said another."
Washington Post, 4-14-03

“British soldiers relaxed with citizens at a nearby Iraqi home. Sitting Indian-style on Oriental rugs, they ate with local men and women and passed around wallet-sized photos of their English children.”
Scripps Howard News Service, 4-14-03

“Now people throw flowers at the few Warrior armored vehicles still patrolling the streets and men, women and children gathered along roadsides make peace signs and thumbs-up signals at passing soldiers, shouting ‘Hello’ and ‘Thank you’ in English."
Birmingham Post, 4-14-03

“It's all very interesting. The images of the statue are amazing. It's a new era in the Arab world, and we're happy to see that. We hope there will be new democracy in the Arab world… yes, the war was worth it.”
Ahmad, 40, watching events unfold in Kuwait, Agence France Presse, 4-14-03

“(Selma Dakhel) wants her 10-year-old girl, Nadine, to learn something other than to chant ‘I love Saddam’ at school, she said. We ‘want freedom and a government chosen by the people. We will have democracy in our new time.’”
Chicago Tribune, 4-14-03

“A lot of people from here have been taken away and tortured. We are very happy that Saddam is gone. We will cooperate with the British and the Americans.”
Najim Abdullah Ahmed, near Tikrit, The Guardian, 4-14-03

“Oh my God, I feel free to live. I have hoped for this day for so long.”
Hussain Thain, in Canada for two years, The Guardian (Charlottetown), 4-14-03

“I'm happy, Iraq is free and Saddam is gone.”
Ali Al-Hajavi, 17, The Canadian Press, 4-13-03

“Smiling citizens crowded every street around the American positions. There was a constant stream of people willing to give information and loudly condemn Saddam. American soldiers who a day before had been in close combat were now basking in the cheers and applause, their arms tired from returning friendly waves.”
Time, 4-14-03

“There were women and children in the crowds, but only the men did any talking. They would say the word Saddam and spit. Or run up to U.S. soldiers and shout 'George Bush good.'”
Time, 4-14-03

“The American people, particularly the movie stars against us being here, need to see this. These people need us. Look how happy they are.”
Sergeant Reuben Rivera in Iraq, Time, 4-14-03

“The downfall of Saddam Hussein's regime, metaphorically incarnate in the toppling of his statue in Firdos Square in Baghdad, filled me with hope. If the regime were still in power, I would not have had the courage to contribute even these few lines under my name to The New York Times. Although I am a self-exiled Iraqi who has lived in Beirut for the past two decades, I have family and friends in Iraq – and I had every Iraqi's dread that Saddam Hussein's security apparatus could sweep down on them at any moment.”
Hussain Abdul-Hussain, New York Times, 4-11-03

“I now feel very free; I know that I'll be able to sleep now. Saddam Hussein assassinated my brother in 1977 – he was hanged in prison for insulting the president. It was August 5, 1977, and since then my family has been punished by the security services. Saddam's Iraq was a dictatorship of torture, war and terror. So today is the first day I can speak.”
Salim Jaffar, Sydney Morning Herald, 4-11-03

"Over the years, the Baath Party has urged family members to write pro-Saddam slogans such as ‘Yes, Yes, to the leader Saddam Hussein!’ on the walls of their house. The family balked, prompting the local Baath Party officials to paint the slogans themselves. This week, one of the first steps the family took was to scrape the slogans off.”
Los Angeles Times, 4-11-03

“There was no justice under Saddam. He could do with us what he liked. The regime robbed the people."
Akkbal Abdulwahab, a teacher, Financial Times, 4-11-03

“We are still scared but we are happy. Thank God this has happened and the Americans have come. Saddam gave us nothing.
Maysoun Raheem, The Advertiser, 4-11-03

“As long as (Saddam) is gone, who cares if he is dead or in Paris?”
An elderly man in Iraq, The Advertiser, 4-11-03

“Iraqis watched with an amazement they dared not express before Wednesday's tumultuous collapse, as the dictator's aura of power faded to something akin to that of a petty thief on the run. It was as though they had awakened from a long, troubling sleep.”
The Age (Melbourne), 4-11-03

“We don't consider the presence of American soldiers as an occupation. They came to free us from injustice, tyranny and slavery. Under Saddam Hussein, our lives had no value, no sense.”
Diya Abdul Hussein, Agence France Presse, 4-11-03

“If the Americans are restoring our liberty they are welcome, and if they respect our dignity they can stay as long as they choose.”
Agence France Presse, 4-11-03

“We are one again. Finally, we are one. I am 50 years old, but my life just started today.”
Kareem Mohammad Kareem, Associated Press, 4-11-03

“We've been up all night watching TV, but we're not tired. We're too excited to sleep. I wanted them (his daughters) to see this historic day. This is the day of our freedom.”
Ali Il-Sayad of Dearborn, Mich., The Australian, 4-11-03

“This is a moment I was looking for all these years; it's like a dream coming true.”
Ridha Jawad Taki, Orlando Sentinel, 4-10-03

“I'm from Halabja," said Kafya Aziz, watching as a crowd swelled in Governor's Square. “I escaped the chemicals, but my son and husband did not. I'd like to cut Saddam to pieces for all he's taken. I'm happy today. I'm too old, or I'd be dancing.”
Los Angeles Times, 4-10-03

“Firecrackers popped. Women wearing bright dresses and new lipstick walked arm in arm on the sidewalks as children, some sitting in the laps of their cigar-smoking fathers, smiled amid a joy they were too young to comprehend.”
Los Angeles Times, 4-10-03

“I'm so glad for victory. We've suffered much. As you see, I am not normal. I was in Saddam's prison, and then they forced me to fight on the front lines of the Iran-Iraq war. I was shot in the spine and cannot walk. This is the first day of my happiness.”
Taha Hamma Mamrashid, Los Angeles Times, 4-10-03

“We have just been saved. You know what this day means to me? It means never having to be afraid of another chemical attack. It means never having to fear my children's future.”
Halala Osman, Wall Street Journal, 4-10-03

“Now my son can have a chance in life.”
Bushra Abed, Washington Times, 4-10-03

“I saw it with my own eyes. People in Baghdad were dancing in the streets and burning Saddam's pictures and no one was firing at them. That was proof to me that Saddam is over.”
Taher Hassan, Sulaimaniyeh shopkeeper, Wall Street Journal, 4-10-03

“Today is a clear lesson for dictatorships in the Arab world. I think they should start looking for ways to change their people's lives.”
Mohammed al-Jassim, editor of Kuwaiti newspaper al-Watan, Washington Times, 4-10-03

“We discovered that all what the information minister was saying was all lies. Now no one believes Al Jazeera anymore.
Ali Hassan, Associated Press, 4-10-03

“Today, though, Adnan was a happy man, so happy that he could barely restrain his excitement. He was finally freed from a prison in downtown Basra, after British troops entered the city and drove the remaining defenders away. And as he took a small group of American journalists on a tour of the hospital, he enthusiastically led a crowd of fellow ex-prisoners, their families, friends and passersby in the first rendition of a pro-American chant that any of us have so far heard: ‘Nam nam Bush , Sad-Dam No’ (‘Yes, yes, Bush, Saddam No’). They chanted and danced, filling one of their former cells in a spontaneous celebration.”
Newsweek, 4-10-03

“It's like a birthday. We're ready to make a new Iraq.”
Ibrahim Al-Mansori, a 31-year-old butcher from Basra, New York Times, 4-10-03

“We have waited many years for this. Saddam is evil and he has gone. He killed Muslims, his own people and stole our money to buy palaces and cars and guns. He must pay the full price.”
Abal Malam Al Fussah, a student in Basra, The Sun, 4-10-03

“Man, I am very excited, every Iraqi person is very happy. We feel like we are reborn again. No more Saddam regime, no more of the Ba'ath Party. We are very happy, now we have got earth to go back to. We love America and we love Iraq too. This is like heaven for me right now.”
An Iraqi American, Channel NewsAsia, 4-10-03

“People, if you only knew what this man did to Iraq. He killed our youth. He killed millions.”
An elderly man in Baghdad beating Saddam’s portrait with his shoe, Los Angeles Times, 4-10-03

“As night fell, residents throughout Baghdad exuberantly embraced a new sense of freedom after decades lived in fear of an oppressive regime. While U.S. troops and tanks moved throughout the city, the citizens of Baghdad danced in the streets, waving rifles, palm fronds and flags. Shouts of traitor, torturer and dictator rang out in reference to the Iraqi president.”
USA Today, 4-10-03

“It was dangerous, it was impossible, to say, ‘Down with Saddam.’ But we have lived 35 years with the Baath Party. Today I am very free and I can talk. And I say, Thank you, Mr. Bush.”
Los Angeles Times, April 10, 2003

“I haven't seen such exhilarating scenes since the implosion of the Soviet empire in the late 1980s. What we have witnessed is something that the Iraqi people wanted the world to know, and that is they are glad to be rid of the loathsome dictator, Saddam Hussein.”
Australian Prime Minister John Howard, Agence France Presse, 4-10-03

"Now my son can have a chance in life."
Bushra Abed, Washington Times, 4-10-03

"I saw it with my own eyes. People in Baghdad were dancing in the streets and burning Saddam's pictures and no one was firing at them. That was proof to me that Saddam is over."
Taher Hassan, Sulaimaniyeh shopkeeper, Wall Street Journal, 4-10-03

"In the most visible sign of Saddam's evaporating power, the 40-foot statue of the Iraqi president was brought down in the middle of Firdos Square. Cheering Iraqis, some waving the national flag, scaled the statue and danced upon the downed icon, now lying face down. As it fell, some threw shoes and slippers at the statue....'I'm 49, but I never lived a single day,' said Yusuf Abed Kazim, a Baghdad imam who pounded the statue's pedestal with a sledgehammer. 'Only now will I start living. That Saddam Hussein is a murderer and a criminal.'"
Washington Post online, 4-9-03

“It confirms why we're here. This regime, all it does is honor itself. They build these huge lavish living quarters for the select few, but the rest of the country lives dirt-poor.”
Lt. Col. Rock Marcone, USA Today, 4-8-03

“The unit's interpreter, Khuder al-Emiri, is a local hero, a guerrilla leader who was forced to flee… in April 1991 after leading a failed uprising against Saddam Hussein. Word of Mr. Emiri's arrival spread through town by way of children's feet. Their hero was with the Americans and the crowd believed the marines' intentions were good. They began to chant in English. 'Stay! Stay! U.S.A.!'”
New York Times, 4-8-03

“The euphoria nearly spilled over into a riot. Children pulled at the marines, jumped on their trucks, wanting to shake their hands, touch their cheeks. A single chicken hung in the butcher's window and still the residents wanted to give the Americans something, anything. Cigarette? Money?”
New York Times, 4-8-03

“You are owed a favor from the Iraqis. We dedicate our loyalty to the Americans and the British. We are friends."
Iraqi Ibrahim Shouqyk to Marines, New York Times, 4-8-03

“For years we have lived oppressed lives here. Sunday was a day we had prayed for and now we are free of Saddam’s rule.”
Qusay Rawah, a student in Basra, Daily Mirror, 4-8-03

“The whole Iraq will be happy if the news about Saddam’s death is confirmed.”
Hussein Al-Rekabi, Iraqi exile of 30 years now in Kuwait, Arab News, 4-8-03

“For some, it was a day to hand flowers to British soldiers stationed in armored vehicles at a traffic circle or to gawk at British troops patrolling the city on foot beside their armored vehicles. For others, it was a day to vent rage at icons of the former authority.”
Washington Post, 4-8-03

"The reception that we received by the Iraqis have been mainly positive. Many children have come up to me wanting to hold my hand. Many of the British troops have been kissed by the children as they’ve gone by. Now, a few people have motioned to go back or to leave but they’re certainly in the minority."
Travis Fox,, 4-7-03

“The Marines here are still concerned some Iraqi fighters remain. ‘Keep away from the area,’ scream the loud speakers in Arabic. ‘It is for your security. The coalition forces will not hesitate to shoot you.’ But hundreds ignored that, surging forward to greet the Marines with an emotional celebration in this predominantly Shia Muslim town.”
CNN Correspondent Bob Franken, 4-7-03

"The closer the marines got to Baghdad, the warmer their reception. Troops soon encountered cheering crowds, with some people giving the thumbs-up sign. ‘You go to Baghdad, and then I am free,’ an Iraqi man told one soldier."
U.S. News and World Report, 4-14-03

"We shall never forget what the coalition has done for our people. A free Iraq shall be a living monument to our people's friendship with its liberators."
Hojat al-Islam Abdel Majid al-Khoi, Wall Street Journal, 4-7-03

"’Ameericaah?’ a little girl asked a Marine who had entered her village and taken a defensive position as others began to search homes. The streets were deserted. People peered around their gates. The Marine smiled, wiggled his fingers in the girl's direction and her fear – and that of the rest of the townspeople – melted. Within minutes people had left their houses and began to shake hands with the Marines. Liberation from the strictures of the regime of Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein had come for a nameless village just a few miles from downtown Baghdad.”
United Press International, 4-7-03

“When some (Iraqi paramilitaries) fled, civilians from the nearby Shia Flats slum poured onto the streets in support of the British attack. Some shouted and cheered, greeting the British soldiers with waves, thumbs up and smiles. Other surrounded and attacked the fleeing Fedayeen Saddam forces.”
Washington Times, 4-7-03

“Believers (should) not to hinder the forces of liberation, and help bring this war against the tyrant to a successful end for the Iraqi people…. Our people need freedom more than air (to breathe). Iraq has suffered, and it deserves better government."
Ayatollah Ali Mohammed Sistani, Wall Street Journal, 4-7-03

“The cool, cement walls were welcome relief from the blistering afternoon heat. The colonel walked across a worn rug and sat at the far end of the room, next to the community patriarch, an old man who stayed mostly silent. The patriarch's eldest son, 63-year-old Said Brahim, served as ambassador. ‘We are so happy to see the Americans forces,’ Mr. Brahim told a Marine translator.”
Detroit News, 4-7-03

“Hundreds of people poured out to welcome and shake hands with the soldiers. Women in chadors hovered in the background, as soldiers talked and joked with civilians and let some boys look through their gunsights. A jubilant crowd of about 100 Iraqis surrounded two British tanks near a Saddam mural and cheered the soldiers inside, giving one soldier a small bunch of yellow flowers.”
Associated Press, 4-7-03

"Ayatollah Ali Mohammed Sistani is...the undisputed A'alam al-ulema (the most learned of the learned) of the mullahs who minister to the religious needs of Shiites, 60 percent of Iraq's population. This week he will resume lectures, banned by the Saddam regime for seven years, at the oldest Shiite seminary.

"....[T]he ayatollah said he had advised 'believers not to hinder the forces of liberation, and help bring this war against the tyrant to a successful end for the Iraqi people....Our people need freedom more than air [to breath]. Iraq has suffered, and it deserves better government.'"
Op-Ed by Amir Taheri, Wall Street Journal, 4-7-03

"As dusk fell yesterday evening, only a small girl dressed in rags could be seen on the streets of Jazirah al-Hari. She approached a [British] tank standing guard at one end of the village, and said: 'My parents will not come, but we need water.' The tank driver leant down and gave her a bottle of water. 'This is why we've come, isn't it?' he said."
The Daily Telegraph (UK), 4-1-03

"U.S. troops [are] getting a very warm welcome from the local Shia population. Now naturally, the Shiites...have no love lost for the Iraqi leader President Saddam Hussein. They have been very repressed by him in the past. And obviously...what they believe to be a continuous presence that they can count on, interest from the U.S. troops is something that they are quite happy to see."
Ryan Chilcote, CNN correspondent, 4-2-03

"Hundreds of Iraqis shouting 'Welcome to Iraq' greeted U.S. Marines who entered the town of Shatra....'There's no problem here. We are happy to see Americans,' one young man shouted. The welcome was a tonic for soldiers who have not always received a warm reception despite the confidence of U.S. and British leaders that the Iraqi people were waiting to be freed from Saddam Hussein's repression. 'It's not every day you get to liberate people,' said one delighted Marine."
The Independent (UK), 4-1-03

"'Saddam has given us nothing, only suffering,' said Khalid Juwad, with his cousin, Raad, nodding in assent. Mr. Juwad said he had four uncles who were in Hussein's jails, and he said he had deserted from the Iraqi Army three times in recent years. 'If the Americans want to get rid of Saddam, that's O.K. with me,' he said. 'The only thing that would bother me is if they don't finish the job. Then Saddam will come back, like he did in 1991.'"
New York Times, 3-31-03

"We've been waiting for you for 10 years. What took you so long?’ said an Iraqi man who, along with more than 500 others, surrendered near the Rumaila oil fields. Many had written such phrases as ‘U.S.A. O.K.’ on their arms or hands. Some even tried to kiss the hands of the nervous young Marines guarding them.”
Newsday, 3-24-03

“Ajami Saadoun Khlis, whose son and brother were executed under the Saddam regime, sobbed like a child on the shoulder of the Guardian’s Egyptian translator. He mopped the tears but they kept coming. ‘You just arrived,’ he said. ‘You're late. What took you so long? God help you become victorious. I want to say hello to Bush, to shake his hand. We came out of the grave.’”
The Guardian, 3-22-03

“As Iraqi Americans reach out to their relatives in Baghdad and Basra, in Kirkuk and Irbil, some are hearing words they never thought possible: Iraqis are speaking ill of Saddam Hussein. They're criticizing him out loud, on the telephone, seemingly undeterred by fear of the Iraqi intelligence service and its tactics of torture for those disloyal to the Baath Party regime. ‘I was shocked,’ said Zainab Al-Suwaij, executive director of the American Islamic Congress, a nonprofit group in Cambridge, Mass., that promotes interfaith and interethnic understanding. ‘It's very dangerous. All the phones are tapped. But they are so excited.’”
Los Angeles Times, 3-24-03

“’Me and my husband, an old man, have to stay at home because we are afraid. We want the American government to remove Saddam Hussein from power and kick these soldiers out of these hills.’”
Fatma Omar, San Francisco Chronicle, 3-24-03

“‘We're very happy. Saddam Hussein is no good. Saddam Hussein a butcher.’”
Abdullah (only identification available), as he welcomed U.S. troops in Iraq
Associated Press, 3-21-03

“I have been waiting for this for 13 years. I hate him more than American government because I told you the Iraq government killed many people from Iraq. They just put (my brother) in jail for a year. After this, they killed him because he don't want to go to the army because his brother is American citizen, and his brother lives in United State.”
Ayid Alsultani, WFIE-14 television station in Evansville, Indiana, 3-24-03

“‘(The trip) had shocked me back to reality.’ (Some Iraqis) told me they would commit suicide if American bombing didn't start. They were willing to see their homes demolished to gain their freedom from Saddam's bloody tyranny. They convinced me that Saddam was a monster the likes of which the world had not seen since Stalin and Hitler. He and his sons are sick sadists. Their tales of slow torture and killing made me ill, such as people put in a huge shredder for plastic products, feet first so they could hear their screams as bodies got chewed up from foot to head.”
Kenneth Joseph, anti-war demonstrator who traveled to Iraq with Japanese human shield volunteers, UPI, 3-21-03

“I was shocked when I first met a pro-war Iraqi in Baghdad - a taxi driver taking me back to my hotel late at night. ‘Don't you listen to Powell on Voice of America radio?’ he said. ‘Of course the Americans don't want to bomb civilians. They want to bomb government and Saddam's palaces. We want America to bomb Saddam.’ … The driver's most emphatic statement was: ‘All Iraqi people want this war.’… Perhaps the most crushing thing we learned was that most ordinary Iraqis thought Saddam Hussein had paid us to come to protest in Iraq. Although we explained that this was categorically not the case, I don't think he believed us. Later he asked me: ‘Really, how much did Saddam pay you to come?’” Daniel Pepper in an article “I was a naive fool to be a human shield for Saddam,”
Sunday Telegraph, 3-23-2003

“As US forces push deep into Iraq, farmers and remote villagers are greeting them with white flags and waves. But the ground forces, backed by massive artillery and air support, are encountering pockets of resistance from Iraq's military. One man, about 30, yesterday ran from a field towards a US convoy shouting insults about Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein. Other men and boys stood in fields waving white flags. In keeping with the local Muslim custom, no girls or women appeared from their houses.”
Lindsay Murdoch in southern Iraq, The Sun-Herald, 3-23-2003

“….The return of the Americans to Safwan was also an occasion for hope, even if mixed with wariness. ‘Saddam finished!’ shouted another young [Iraqi] man, who gave his name as Fares. ‘Americans are here now.’ His friend, Shebah, added, in broken English, ‘Saddam killed people.’”
Washington Post, 3-23-03

“Coming into Basra as part of a massive military convoy, I encountered a stream of young men, dressed in what appeared to be Iraqi army uniforms, applauding the US marines as they swept past in tanks.”
BBC reporter, 3-22-03

"Ajami Saadoun Khlis, whose son and brother were executed under the Saddam regime, sobbed like a child on the shoulder of the Guardian's Egyptian translator. He mopped the tears but they kept coming. 'You just arrived,' he said. 'You're late. What took you so long? God help you become victorious. I want to say hello to Bush, to shake his hand. We came out of the grave.'"
The Guadian, 3-22-03

“As hundreds of coalition troops swept in just after dawn, the heartache of a town that felt the hardest edges of Saddam Hussein's rule seemed to burst forth, with villagers running into the streets to celebrate in a kind of grim ecstasy, laughing and weeping in long guttural cries.

“‘Oooooo, peace be upon you, peace be upon you, peace you, oooooo,’ Zahra Khafi, a 68-year-old mother of five, cried to a group of American and British visitors who came to the town shortly after Mr. Hussein's army appeared to melt away. ‘I'm not afraid of Saddam anymore.’”
New York Times, 3-22-03

"We've been driving since dawn today in southern Iraq, and so far we've come across scores of Bedouin herdsmen. We've been greeted by friendly greetings of ‘inshallah’ and ‘salaam aleikum’…we've seen both women and men waving greetings and shouting greeting to the U.S. troops.”
Radio Free Europe correspondent Ron Synovitz, 3-21-03

"They told me that Saddam Hussein is not allowing anyone to leave Baghdad. I don't fear the Americans. I was in Baghdad in the war in 1991 and I saw how surgical an operation it was. Saddam Hussein has persecuted everyone except his own family. Kurds, Arab Shiites, Turkoman - everybody has suffered. But our country was a rich country and we can be rich again.'”
Financial Times Information, 3-21-03

"These are US Marines being greeted if not with garlands, with hand shakes by residents of the town in the deep-south corner of Iraq.”
CBS News, 3-21-03

"One little boy, who had chocolate melted all over his face after a soldier gave him some treats from his ration kit, kept pointing at the sky, saying 'Ameriki, Ameriki.'"
Associated Press, 3-21-03

"Milling crowds of men and boys watched as the Marines attached ropes on the front of their Jeeps to one portrait and then backed up, peeling the Iraqi leader's black-and-white metal image off a frame. Some locals briefly joined Maj. David 'Bull' Gurfein in a new cheer. 'Iraqis! Iraqis! Iraqis!' Gurfein yelled, pumping his fist in the air...

"....A few men and boys ventured out, putting makeshift white flags on their pickup trucks or waving white T-shirts out truck windows....'Americans very good,' Ali Khemy said. 'Iraq wants to be free. Some chanted, 'Ameriki! Ameriki!'

"Gurfein playfully traded pats with a disabled man and turned down a dinner invitation from townspeople. 'Friend, friend,' he told them in Arabic learned in the first Gulf War.

"'No Saddam Hussein!' one young man in headscarf told Gurfein. 'Bush!'"
Associated Press, 3-21-03

"Iraqi citizens were shown 'tearing down a poster of Saddam Hussein' and Dexter Filkins of The New York Times was interviewed, saying that Iraqis he had seen were 'hugging and kissing every American they could find.'"
NBC Nightly News, 3-21-03

"Here was a chance to stop and I clambered down, eager to get a first word from an Iraqi of what he thought of this whole affair. 'As salaam alekum,' I said in the traditional greeting, then ran out of Arabic and quickly added, 'Do you speak English?' No go. But with a fumbled exchange of gestures we slowly managed to communicate. Thumbs up for the American tanks, thumbs down for Saddam Hussein. Then he pointed north into the distance and said 'Baghdad.'"
Reuters, 3-21-03

"A line of dancing Kurdish men, staring directly into the mouth of the Iraqi guns less than a mile away, defiantly burned tires, sang traditional new years songs and chanted, 'Topple Saddam.'

"March 21 is the Kurdish New Year....And bonfires have long been a symbol of liberation in this part of the world. 'We're celebrating [Nawroz] a national holiday,' said Samad Abdulla Rahim, 22. 'But today we also celebrate the attack on Saddam.'

"Many expressed hope that deadly fire would light the night sky over Baghdad in the days ahead, bringing an end to the Kurd's epic 30-year struggle against Hussein and his Baath Party. 'I can't wait for the U.S. planes to come and liberate Kirkuk,' said Shahab Ahmed Sherif, a 33-year-old Kurd who had fled the oil-rich city four days earlier."
Copley News Service, 3-21-03

Unidentified Iraqi man: "Help us live better than this life. Let us have freedom."
ABC World News Tonight, 3-21-03

155 posted on 05/07/2003 6:13:51 PM PDT by Spruce
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To: Eala
There are many citations to the birth of Saigon and the origin of its name. In the 15th century, this area were swamps, marshes and thick forests. By the early 17th century, a small township was formed. According to one theory, Saigon or Sai Con has its root in a Khmer word Prei Kor (Kapok Tree Forest).

The name Saigon was used officially in 1698, when Lord Nguyen Phuc Chu sent Mr. Nguyen Huu Canh to this region to create various districts and to form a government for this southern outpost.

Way before the french got there!

BTW Happy Seis de Mayo!(The day after Mexico defeated the french!)
156 posted on 05/07/2003 6:14:14 PM PDT by SwinneySwitch (Freedom is not Free - Support the Troops!)
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To: Spruce
That may very well be the longest post in the history of FR.
157 posted on 05/07/2003 6:14:34 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: Leisler
She's going to pop a vein if she's not careful. I need to buy some stock in British Kleenex. She must use a lot wiping all that foam off her mouth.

Reminds me Beavis when he got that head vibrating shaking thing going on.
158 posted on 05/07/2003 6:14:37 PM PDT by Arkinsaw
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To: BlackBirdII
Unless we put the military of the Pols and Czechs on an English crash course that is

Probably wouldn't be much of a chore. I think they all get English in school.

159 posted on 05/07/2003 6:14:38 PM PDT by ThanhPhero
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To: Spruce

I just love this photo! Look at those cheeks!

160 posted on 05/07/2003 6:16:28 PM PDT by Petronski (I'm not always cranky.)
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