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Annika Meets the Boys at Colonial [Finishes Day +1]
CBS Sports/USA Network and PGA.com ^ | May 22, 2003 | Jim Nantz

Posted on 05/22/2003 6:33:00 AM PDT by ewing

LPGA player Annika Sorenstam will be teeing off shortly in a men's PGA event at the Colonial Country Club [the first time in 60 years this has happened]

Live shot for shot coverage as long as she is in contention to make the cut on USA Networks, PGA Radio is free today for those cubicle bound and wanting live update (link included)


TOPICS: Breaking News; Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: annika; genderequity; gendershowboating; insecuremales; lpga; misogynists; pga; selfesteem; stuartsmalling
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To: San Jacinto
Stewart Cink is -2 after 6 holes, and 20 players are at -1. There are 13 at even (including Annika), 13 at +1, 3 at +2, and 2 at +3.
101 posted on 05/22/2003 7:40:20 AM PDT by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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To: KellyAdmirer
USA showing shots of her arms bulging vs. a couple years ago. Steroids?

She's been on a very rigorous strength training program for about 2 years.

Why don't y'all leave her alone and let her play the game?
102 posted on 05/22/2003 7:40:30 AM PDT by Your Nightmare
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To: N3WBI3
I agree with that.

What I'd really like to see, though, is an "BPGA." (Best Pro Golfer Assoc.)

LPGA would be under that, as would Division II PGA.

103 posted on 05/22/2003 7:40:49 AM PDT by HatSteel
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To: Teacher317
The hardest holes for Annika should be 12, 14, 15 on the back, and 3-4-5 (the Horrible Horseshoe) and 9 on the front.

If she plays those holes collectively at even par, or even a couple over, she could have a vey good round and make the cut.

104 posted on 05/22/2003 7:41:18 AM PDT by San Jacinto
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To: Teacher317
10th (par 4, 404 yds): On the fairway twice, birdie putt is short, makes par.
11th (par 5, 609 yds): On the fairway all three shots, birdie putt is short, makes par.
12th (par 4, 443 yds): On the fairway, second shot on the rim grass of the green, birdie putt misses.. about 16 inches to go.
105 posted on 05/22/2003 7:41:31 AM PDT by Teacher317
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius
Sure, maybe - if she spends four hours a day in the gym - along with plyaing her tournaments.
106 posted on 05/22/2003 7:41:56 AM PDT by KellyAdmirer
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To: Your Nightmare
I didn't realize I was getting in the way of her lies here.
107 posted on 05/22/2003 7:42:51 AM PDT by KellyAdmirer
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To: San Jacinto
Im waiting for her to play the Horeshoe, then we will know if she is serious.
108 posted on 05/22/2003 7:42:55 AM PDT by ewing
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To: 1Old Pro
Uhh, 609 yards....less than 10% of PGA players make that in 2.

I doubt you could reach it in 3.
109 posted on 05/22/2003 7:43:04 AM PDT by Guillermo (Proud Infidel)
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To: Teacher317
Good updates!
110 posted on 05/22/2003 7:43:09 AM PDT by 1Old Pro (The Dems are self-destructing before our eyes, How Great is That !)
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To: Your Nightmare
This bravado thing is very stupid. The facts are men are bigger, and stronger. That is why men basketball is different then women, and so on. Yes it is possible to find a big Amazon woman to play against a small midget man, and beat him. Would that be a triumph for all women? The excitement of the media is very stupid. Even if this particular Amazon woman wins, that does not change the reality that women, in general; smaller and weaker.
111 posted on 05/22/2003 7:43:14 AM PDT by philosofy123
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To: KellyAdmirer
She plays 3 or 4 days every other week or so, so why can't she hit the weights 4 hours a day on her training days?
112 posted on 05/22/2003 7:43:42 AM PDT by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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To: KellyAdmirer
It's very difficult for adult women to increase muscle mass without a little help...
113 posted on 05/22/2003 7:44:03 AM PDT by daylate-dollarshort (http://www.strato.net/~cmranch)
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To: philosofy123
I'd hardly call Annika an Amazon woman.
114 posted on 05/22/2003 7:44:17 AM PDT by mn-bush-man
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To: San Jacinto
10th (par 4, 404 yds): On the fairway twice, birdie putt is short, makes par.
11th (par 5, 609 yds): On the fairway all three shots, birdie putt is short, makes par.
12th (par 4, 443 yds): On the fairway, second shot on the rim of the green, makes par.
115 posted on 05/22/2003 7:44:47 AM PDT by Teacher317
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To: Ugly Truth
It would seem fairly simple to me, that in order to be fair, the LPGA start allowing men to play. Only fair.

It would only be fair if men and women were equal as a whole in their abilities to play golf. They aren't. Annika is an extraordinary female golfer and deserves a chance to play with the best golfers (men or women) in the world. And that happens to be the PGA.
116 posted on 05/22/2003 7:44:48 AM PDT by Your Nightmare
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To: ewing
She's off to a good start. Par 3 coming up.
117 posted on 05/22/2003 7:45:11 AM PDT by San Jacinto
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To: deport
Half the field off........ 13 players @ +1, 4 @ +2 and 2 @ +3

Leaders, 4 @ -2
118 posted on 05/22/2003 7:45:16 AM PDT by deport
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Ankia gets Tiger's security detail this week..


119 posted on 05/22/2003 7:45:33 AM PDT by ewing
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To: 1Old Pro
Thanks!

10th (par 4, 404 yds): On the fairway twice, birdie putt is short, makes par.
11th (par 5, 609 yds): On the fairway all three shots, birdie putt is short, makes par.
12th (par 4, 443 yds): On the fairway, second shot on the rim of the green, makes par.
13th (par 3, 178 yds):

120 posted on 05/22/2003 7:46:13 AM PDT by Teacher317
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To: 1Old Pro
Thanks!

10th (par 4, 404 yds): On the fairway twice, birdie putt is short, makes par.
11th (par 5, 609 yds): On the fairway all three shots, birdie putt is short, makes par.
12th (par 4, 443 yds): On the fairway, second shot on the rim of the green, makes par.
13th (par 3, 178 yds): 3 inches off of the carpet

121 posted on 05/22/2003 7:46:49 AM PDT by Teacher317
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To: Your Nightmare
Amazing how people here are bashing and rooting against her. They act as if she sued the PGA Tour to get a spot.

She would crush each and every one of them, every single time in match play.
122 posted on 05/22/2003 7:47:03 AM PDT by Guillermo (Proud Infidel)
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To: KellyAdmirer
Go Annika !
123 posted on 05/22/2003 7:47:12 AM PDT by ChadGore (Frustrate one liberal a day, that's all we ask.)
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To: Your Nightmare
Allowing men to compete in the LPGA would make about as much sense as letting 20-somethings play in the Senior Tour.
124 posted on 05/22/2003 7:47:17 AM PDT by triplejake
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To: Timesink
Go FR's Stewart Cink!


125 posted on 05/22/2003 7:48:42 AM PDT by ewing
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To: Your Nightmare
Did she have to qualify for it like all of the other guys in it? Just how did she get into the PGA tournament?
126 posted on 05/22/2003 7:48:54 AM PDT by NYC Republican
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To: ewing
I would have taken the under. This is a lot of fun to watch.
127 posted on 05/22/2003 7:49:13 AM PDT by TBall
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius
Anything is possible. Having worked out extensively myself, I know the limitations. I've seen people who used steroids and other enhancements to get ahead. It would not surprise me in her case, would certainly give her a big edge on the women.
128 posted on 05/22/2003 7:49:45 AM PDT by KellyAdmirer
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To: NYC Republican
Bank of America holds 8 exemptions total. What 7 men don't deserve to be here?
129 posted on 05/22/2003 7:49:46 AM PDT by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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130 posted on 05/22/2003 7:51:08 AM PDT by ewing
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To: All
Here's hole by hole info and "flyovers" OF THE HOLES:

http://www.pgatour.com/tournaments/r021/course.html

 

131 posted on 05/22/2003 7:51:15 AM PDT by 1Old Pro (The Dems are self-destructing before our eyes, How Great is That !)
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To: philosofy123
This bravado thing is very stupid. The facts are men are bigger, and stronger.

I didn't say they weren't. In fact, I was composing a message saying the same when you posted this one. The post I was responding to was questioning whether she took steriods to put on muscle mass. I was only pointing out that she's been working out very hard and that some of y'all would stop being so threatened and trying to trash her you might see that she really is an extraordinary athelete.
132 posted on 05/22/2003 7:51:30 AM PDT by Your Nightmare
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To: ewing
Announcer: "I don't think I've ever seen Colonial play any easier than it is today."
133 posted on 05/22/2003 7:52:08 AM PDT by KellyAdmirer
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To: Guillermo
I did make the brash statement that if she got decent breaks, she could par this course. I don't think she can do it four days in a row but she is capable of parring any course.
134 posted on 05/22/2003 7:52:17 AM PDT by dwilli
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To: NYC Republican
Annika got a sponsors exemption, this being a private inviational tourney.

The only qualification is that you have to have a less than '2' handicap..

136 posted on 05/22/2003 7:52:54 AM PDT by ewing
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To: Teacher317
10th (par 4, 404 yds): On the fairway twice, birdie putt is short, makes par.
11th (par 5, 609 yds): On the fairway all three shots, birdie putt is short, makes par.
12th (par 4, 443 yds): On the fairway, second shot on the rim of the green, makes par.
13th (par 3, 178 yds): 3 inches off of the carpet, birdie putt is GOOD!!!
14th (par 4, 457 yds):
15th (par 4, 430 yds):
16th (par 3, 188 yds):
17th (par 4, 383 yds):
18th (par 4, 427 yds):
137 posted on 05/22/2003 7:53:01 AM PDT by Teacher317
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To: NYC Republican
Did she have to qualify for it like all of the other guys in it? Just how did she get into the PGA tournament?

she received a 'sponsor's exemption'. Those are the 4 or 5 spots handed out to whoever the sponsor wants to. Often they go to good local college players or an older professional with some sort of local tie-in -- people like that. Annika is not costing anyone a spot in the tournament who would be considered a regular tour player.

138 posted on 05/22/2003 7:53:05 AM PDT by San Jacinto
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HOLE 14 INFO:
14 4 457
This long dogleg left requires a draw off tee and a long approach shot. The green can be tricky.

139 posted on 05/22/2003 7:53:13 AM PDT by 1Old Pro (The Dems are self-destructing before our eyes, How Great is That !)
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To: NYC Republican
The praise the announcers keep heaping on her is sickening. We all know that because if the PC world we live in, they're all afraid to criticize anything she does.

She's playing really well, and deserves credit for that, but come on, their praise is so over the top.
140 posted on 05/22/2003 7:53:41 AM PDT by NYC Republican
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To: dwilli
One under
141 posted on 05/22/2003 7:54:02 AM PDT by Protagoras (Putting government in charge of morality is like putting pedophiles in charge of children)
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To: Teacher317
birdie putt is GOOD!!!

tHE BOYS ARE GETTING NERVOUS

142 posted on 05/22/2003 7:54:06 AM PDT by 1Old Pro (The Dems are self-destructing before our eyes, How Great is That !)
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To: ewing
That's pretty slim for someone folks are accusing of being a steroid freek.
143 posted on 05/22/2003 7:54:19 AM PDT by dwilli
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To: Teacher317
She's one shot off the lead!!??
144 posted on 05/22/2003 7:54:46 AM PDT by ewing
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To: Teacher317
Within two of the leader (3 straight birdies for Brian Gay, she's tied for 9th, even par is tied for 20th place. 12 of top 19 started on the back 9)
145 posted on 05/22/2003 7:54:51 AM PDT by Teacher317
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To: NYC Republican
Sponsors of tournaments each get a certain number of exemptions that they are allowed to give to whomever they please.

Sorenstam did not take the place of a card holding player. She did not sue the Tour or Sponsor to force them to let her play. She was invited by the people who pay for the tournament and assume all the risk.

146 posted on 05/22/2003 7:54:53 AM PDT by Guillermo (Proud Infidel)
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To: NYC Republican
Did she have to qualify for it like all of the other guys in it? Just how did she get into the PGA tournament?

For each PGA tournament, the sponsor gets a limited number of exemptions that they can distribute. Some of them must go to tour players not exempt from qualifying, but the sponsor can give a few to pretty much any golfer with a 2 handicap or better. Annika was given one of these exemptions. In short, she was invited in a proper manner.

It will be interesting to see what the gap is between the best men and women.

147 posted on 05/22/2003 7:55:12 AM PDT by the bottle let me down
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To: 1Old Pro
photo
148 posted on 05/22/2003 7:55:15 AM PDT by ChadGore (Frustrate one liberal a day, that's all we ask.)
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To: Teacher317
Uh Oh! A birdie! Now she has to bogey 6 of the remaining 14 holes to hit 75 today.
149 posted on 05/22/2003 7:55:25 AM PDT by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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To: aslanspal
The PGA does not now, nor never had a gender requirement for play, in fact a woman played the PGA tour in the 40's!! IT has never been about "men" only.

The LPGA on the other hand is founded for women only. Annika playing is neither a precident setting event or a violation of the PGA rules.

There is this idiocy that PGA is a mens only organization, and that is just not true. I have never seen so many grown men acting like children! Annika could wipe the floor with nearly anyone posting here... this isn't about men or women its about golf. The sponsors used the rules to let her place, so let her play! Her playing is not a threat to anyones scrotum and its a shame that far too many are so insecure that they think it is.
150 posted on 05/22/2003 7:55:30 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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