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Toddler dies after being left in hot van - 'criminal charges to be filed' against Daycare Center
The Dallas Morning News ^ | June 3, 2003 | By IAN McCANN / The Dallas Morning News

Posted on 06/03/2003 10:56:47 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP

Toddler dies after being left in hot van

06/03/2003

By IAN McCANN / The Dallas Morning News

A 2-year-old left inside a hot daycare van in Lancaster for more than two hours on Friday died early Tuesday.

The boy, whose name has not yet been released, had been in critical condition at Children’s Medical Center in Dallas. He died about 12:15 a.m., hospital officials said.

Police said the boy and nine other children had returned from a field trip to a Chuck E. Cheese restaurant about 1 p.m. Workers realized that he was still strapped in a car seat inside the van about 3:25 p.m. and called 911. Temperatures topped 100 degrees Friday afternoon.

Representatives for the Little Dudes and Daisies Daycare and Learning Center on North Dallas Avenue could not be reached for comment.

Lancaster police have scheduled a news conference for Tuesday afternoon to announce criminal charges to be filed in the case.

The Texas Department of Protective and Regulatory Services, the agency that regulates daycares, is also investigating.

“[Police] are evaluating the incident,” said Stacey Ladd, a department spokeswoman. “Mostly, we’re evaluating the safety of the children. Obviously, we’re working closely together.”


Online at: http://www.dallasnews.com/latestnews/stories/060303dnmettotdies.804ccad3.html


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Rest in peace , little one.

Here is the article posted Saturday the 31st:

Child left in stifling day-care center van

1 posted on 06/03/2003 10:56:47 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP
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To: MeeknMing
This is happening so frequently, it reaffirms the sacrifices my ex-wife and I made in order for her to be a stay at home mom as having been on of the things we did right. Where do you hire someone so stupid they can't check the damn seats.
2 posted on 06/03/2003 11:05:11 AM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (Paper or plastic? That is the question.)
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To: MeeknMing
Very sad indeed!
3 posted on 06/03/2003 11:16:05 AM PDT by lilylangtree
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To: Flurry
You're absolutely right.
The mother of this child certainly deserves a big share of the blame - the child was HER responsibility, but the odds are she was too obsessed with the pursuit of material things to even consider staying home and raising the child she brought into this world.

I can just see her "friends" telling her, "Oh you poor thing, I know you must be suffering."
But not like her child did in his last minutes of life.
4 posted on 06/03/2003 11:21:17 AM PDT by Redbob
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To: Flurry
Sometimes it's the parents who leave them locked in a hot car, but often they don't get prosecuted (at least not to the extent I'd like).

How the heck does someone forget a child in a hot car?

LQ
5 posted on 06/03/2003 11:23:26 AM PDT by LizardQueen
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To: Redbob
I think it's time that COUPLES decide. Do we want things or children.
6 posted on 06/03/2003 11:26:33 AM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (Paper or plastic? That is the question.)
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To: Redbob
><> The mother of this child certainly deserves a big share of the blame - the child was HER responsibility, but the odds are she was too obsessed with the pursuit of material things to even consider staying home and raising the child she brought into this world. <><

This is pretty unfair. As a single mom of two girls, I really struggle with the daycare issue. I would hope that if something happened to my child at daycare that someone wouldn't say that my selfishness caused her to die.

Having said that, I get to KNOW my daycare workers by name, talk to them daily, I KNOW when field trips are scheduled to come and go, and call to check on my kids.

But that wouldn't stop someone elses negligence to somehow harm my child.
7 posted on 06/03/2003 11:26:52 AM PDT by proud_2_B_texasgal (a REAL dixie chick)
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To: LizardQueen
It should be life in prison. No differnce in this and drowning them. We took our kids inside to buy a coke at a convenience store. If you don't have time to properly treat the child, stay at home. Mine were 17 mos apart so you really planned things out.
8 posted on 06/03/2003 11:29:05 AM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (Paper or plastic? That is the question.)
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To: Flurry
Related...a couple of weeks ago, during a late May heatwave where it got up to around 115 here in the desert, the lady I work with was at WalMart and noticed a commotion.

A woman had locked her keys in her car - which also contained her strapped in baby. Needless to say in that heat, the mom disregarded suggestions to call a locksmith and proceeded to have a passerby get something from his trunk and blow out a window.

Maybe expensive, but the right thing to do....the situation was over with in less than 2 minutes.

9 posted on 06/03/2003 11:37:20 AM PDT by ErnBatavia (Bumperootus!)
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To: ErnBatavia
Good for this mother. I would do the same, in a heartbeat.
10 posted on 06/03/2003 11:43:18 AM PDT by Pan_Yans Wife (Lurking since 2000.)
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To: Redbob
That's a mean thing to say. Since when is a child only the mother's responsibility? Maybe her husband had a crummy job and she HAD to work? Maybe they have no relatives around available to babysit?

The slamming of working mothers is unnecessary. And, yes, I stayed home with my kids and still do.
11 posted on 06/03/2003 11:43:45 AM PDT by annyokie (provacative yet educational reading alert)
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To: MeeknMing
I do not understand how any parent with a modicum of common sense would ever consider sending their children to one of these disease infested daycare warehouses........why any mother would allow these minimum wage thugs to take the place of their nurturing care is beyond comprehension!!
12 posted on 06/03/2003 11:44:05 AM PDT by RomanCatholicProlifer
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To: MeeknMing
I am just sick to my stomach. The poor family.
13 posted on 06/03/2003 11:44:26 AM PDT by Under the Radar
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To: MeeknMing
Those who are responsible should face the death penality. Anyone who values life so little as to forget about a youngster needs to die.
14 posted on 06/03/2003 11:44:54 AM PDT by samuel_adams_us
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To: proud_2_B_texasgal
Amen. I had to put my youngest in daycare for a few months and it tore me up everyday to do so.

My then husband had lost his job and our car couldn't make its own payments.
15 posted on 06/03/2003 11:45:57 AM PDT by annyokie (provacative yet educational reading alert)
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To: MeeknMing
I am sicken by this needless death.
16 posted on 06/03/2003 11:48:13 AM PDT by TLBSHOW (the gift is to see the truth)
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To: Flurry; Wneighbor
Where do you hire someone so stupid they can't check the damn seats.

A lot of parents have been guilty of the same thing.

A few months back, here in Virginia a father of 13 (or was it 11) left the baby in the car for seven hours while he was at home inside with the other children.

This is not a defense of the daycare center (there is no defense). But, sadly, they aren't the only guilty ones.

17 posted on 06/03/2003 11:48:29 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands (http://wardsmythe.crimsonblog.com)
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To: Flurry
Sometimes it's not that simple. If I didn't work we would lose the house. Period. And it's not a big house (1000 sq foot ranch, one of the cheapest in the area).

It's just that hubby doesn't make enough for me to have kids and stay home and still have minimal food, clothing, and shelter. We ended up not having kids for this and many other reasons.

Now if the government would stop taking our income up through May (isn't that when Tax Freedom Day is?) we'd all be in a bit better shape and maybe more people could stay home with their kids.

Not all mothers who work work for luxuries, and I get real tired of the constant prattle of those who insist that ALL of them do.
Especially with today's house prices, there is only so much expenses you can cut before you are living in a cardboard box, if the husband's salary isn't top-drawer. And not all of us are that lucky.

LQ
18 posted on 06/03/2003 11:48:39 AM PDT by LizardQueen
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To: RomanCatholicProlifer
... sending their children to one of these disease infested daycare warehouses........why any mother would allow these minimum wage thugs ... come on people .. not all daycares are "disease infested warehouses" that employ "thugs"... this is so hurtful to someone who HAS to use a daycare. there are good daycares and bad daycares. I'm very happy with the one my daughter goes to, and I had to give up some things in order to afford it.
19 posted on 06/03/2003 11:48:57 AM PDT by proud_2_B_texasgal (a REAL dixie chick)
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To: proud_2_B_texasgal
>The mother of this child certainly deserves a big share of the blame-
> the child was HER responsibility, but the odds are she was too obsessed with
>the pursuit of material things to even consider staying home and raising
> the child she brought into this world.

This is pretty unfair. As a single mom of two girls, I really struggle with the daycare issue. I would hope that if something happened to my child at daycare that someone wouldn't say that my selfishness caused her to die.

Yes, it is unfair to criticize widows like yourself, who have no choice but to be single and deal with needing to work. Of course, it is different when discussing women who choose to be single, such as by divorce or having never been married. These women deserve the criticism. They are building their own personal, self-serving interests on the backs of their children.

20 posted on 06/03/2003 11:50:03 AM PDT by Under the Radar
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To: proud_2_B_texasgal
arrggg .. the above post is pretty jumbled.. clicked before i meant to .. sorry
21 posted on 06/03/2003 11:50:12 AM PDT by proud_2_B_texasgal (a REAL dixie chick)
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To: Redbob
The mother of this child certainly deserves a big share of the blame - the child was HER responsibility, but the odds are she was too obsessed with the pursuit of material things to even consider staying home and raising the child she brought into this world.

How do you know she was pursuing material things? Perhaps she was a single mom, pursuing food and clothing for her child.

No one denies that it's better for the mom's to keep the kids at home. But it's not always possible. And it's not always because Mom (or Dad) wants more stuff.

22 posted on 06/03/2003 11:50:46 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands (http://wardsmythe.crimsonblog.com)
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To: ErnBatavia
I never lock my keys in the car but I would have broken the window too. I once jimmied someone's car to get a dog in
distress out. Then I sent a friend for water. We sat there beside the car rehydrating the dog til the owner got back. It seems she was only going in the store for a few minutes but it ended up being an hour. I suggested that next time she leave the dog at home. She thanked us and tried to pay us. We turned down the money and reminded her how close her dog had been to a painful death. If it had been a child I would have held it til the cops got there. If you don't have any sense, please let someone else repopulate the world. We have enough stupid people already.
23 posted on 06/03/2003 11:51:45 AM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (Paper or plastic? That is the question.)
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To: Corin Stormhands
Stupid is as stupid does.
24 posted on 06/03/2003 11:52:39 AM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (Paper or plastic? That is the question.)
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To: LizardQueen
Your comment reminds me of a Catholic family who was very poor and owed a great deal of debt in their small farming community. They were barely scraping by, times were really lean. And on an outing in their little rural village, a person in the town admonished this mother, for being pregnant with her third child, saying that the family couldn't afford the family that they did have, why did they have another child?

Sometimes pregnancy happens, and a woman does have to struggle with her choices. Such criticism is extremely harsh. I do know that many women have to work, today. But, it is sometimes hard to justify those women who do work, when it is not a necessity.
25 posted on 06/03/2003 11:57:24 AM PDT by Pan_Yans Wife (Lurking since 2000.)
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To: TLBSHOW; Under the Radar
Re #13 & 16:

Yep, it's a shame alright. I think the article I posted Saturday from the Friday incident said the little fella had a 108 degree temperature. I was afraid of this.
26 posted on 06/03/2003 11:57:31 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (Bu-bye Dixie Chimps! / Check out my Freeper site !: http://home.attbi.com/~freeper/wsb/index.html)
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To: Corin Stormhands
How do you know she was pursuing material things? Perhaps she was a single mom, pursuing food and clothing for her child.

Too many women are single by choice, and expect to get the same pass as widows used to get. Sorry, if you are a divorcee or, worse yet, never been married, what right do you have to sympathy when it comes to having to work from the moment the child is 6 weeks old? Yes, you have to work to support the child, and yes, the child suffers for it.

27 posted on 06/03/2003 11:58:17 AM PDT by Under the Radar
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To: Flurry
When my oldest was an infant, I locked him in the car as it was my habit to always lock the car when I exited it. He was only six weeks old and I realized what I had done when I walked around to open the passenger door to get him out.

Fortunately, it was November and I was in my mother's neighborhood (she was to come home for lunch) and I found a neighbor to call AAA for me. My son slept through the whole thing.

Stuff can happen to anyone. Even very bad stuff.
28 posted on 06/03/2003 12:00:28 PM PDT by annyokie (provacative yet educational reading alert)
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To: Pan_Yans Wife
That was a great documentary called "The Farmer's Wife" about a young family in Nebraska.
29 posted on 06/03/2003 12:01:59 PM PDT by annyokie (provacative yet educational reading alert)
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To: Under the Radar
><> discussing women who choose to be single, such as by divorce <><

well, aren't we condescending?? lol.

I have NO intentions of explaining to you what led me to the "choice" to get myself and my kids out of that marriage .. and the divorce isn't final .. yet.

But the fact of the matter is, I HAVE to put my daughter in daycare right now, so I looked for the best one that I could find, then gave up some things to afford it, and will do everything I can to be a "part" of that daycare.

So go "condescend" somewhere else..
30 posted on 06/03/2003 12:02:47 PM PDT by proud_2_B_texasgal (a REAL dixie chick)
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To: proud_2_B_texasgal
So go "condescend" somewhere else... As you wish.

Your marriage must have been something awful if it was enough to make you pay other people to raise your children.

31 posted on 06/03/2003 12:04:41 PM PDT by Under the Radar
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To: Under the Radar; Wneighbor; RMDupree
Sorry, if you are a divorcee or, worse yet, never been married, what right do you have to sympathy when it comes to having to work from the moment the child is 6 weeks old?

Well, I'm not divorced. I'm a married father of two. And yes, when my wife teaches part-time (in an academy for homeschoolers), our youngest is in daycare three days a week.

But I'm amazed at the attitudes of the "family friendly" around here. What if a woman's husband got drunk and beat the crap out of her every night? Is it okay for her to leave and put the child in daycare? Or should she stay and cover up the bruises just to be able to be a stay-at-home mom?

People around here are even harsher on the single moms who rely on welfare.

Who among us has not made some bad choices? Mom's are single for lots of reasons. Some of their own choosing. Some not.

Kids are in daycare for lots of reasons. Some selfish. Some not.

32 posted on 06/03/2003 12:05:19 PM PDT by Corin Stormhands (http://wardsmythe.crimsonblog.com)
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To: Under the Radar
glad you could see that..
33 posted on 06/03/2003 12:05:37 PM PDT by proud_2_B_texasgal (a REAL dixie chick)
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To: annyokie
One of my favorites... and I was pleased later to learn that the wife did complete her education, remained with her husband, and that the family was doing very well. May God bless them! They certainly taught me a great deal about sacrifice.
34 posted on 06/03/2003 12:06:54 PM PDT by Pan_Yans Wife (Lurking since 2000.)
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To: Under the Radar; proud_2_B_texasgal; Wneighbor; RMDupree
Your marriage must have been something awful if it was enough to make you pay other people to raise your children.

That statement is just plain rude and ignorant.

35 posted on 06/03/2003 12:07:43 PM PDT by Corin Stormhands (http://wardsmythe.crimsonblog.com)
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To: LizardQueen
How the heck does someone forget a child in a hot car?

I think the rash of kids toasted in cars has grown with the requirement to put the car sear in the back of the care. It is conceivable that the baby falls asleep and forgotten without being seen or heard. Day Care Parents are so rushed and not used to dealing with the kids every minute of the day. Out of sight, out of mind.

PLEASE do not misconstrue this as an excuse, just a theory as how something so horrific could happen.

My kids were always in the front seat, usually making noise (still do). I couldn't help but see them. Also I was a full time mom and my kids are still permanently attached to my hip. (Happy 14th birthday to my big girl. She loooves it when I say that in front of her friends.)

36 posted on 06/03/2003 12:07:50 PM PDT by myprecious
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To: LizardQueen
You and your husband have made a wise decision to wait or even not have children. I was the third of 6 children and my dad worked 2 - 3 jobs so mom could be home. Children are very expensive even more today than in the past. My ex and I could afford to drop her job and still have a house two cars and all the things we needed. We didn't live in a 6000 sq ft home and drive Mercedes. I know too many couples who's second income barely covers day care. I know couples who deprive their parents of their golden years by making them raise their children. IMHO If you don't have time to raise them, don't have them. I have seen many cases of successfully raising children through daycare but it was daycare that few middle income families could afford. NO ANSWER IS ALWAYS RIGHT, this is just my opinion.
37 posted on 06/03/2003 12:10:30 PM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (Paper or plastic? That is the question.)
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To: Corin Stormhands; Qwerty
You raise some good points. I think it is similar to the abortion debate.

Many people would agree that there are some extreme circumstances when abortion would be acceptable, even if it were distasteful. Many would also agree that abortion-as-birth-control is deplorable.

The same with divorce. Most would agree that extreme circumstances may dictate divorce is necessary. We can all come up with examples of this. However, the low rates of domestic violence in this country do not jibe with our 50% divorce rates. Just like many women are using abortion as birth control, many women are divorcing for no good reason.

FR is notorious for being harsh on homosexuals, but the culture of divorce is much more brutal to children than gay pedophiles are. We should speak up about it, at least as much as we rail about the "homosexual agenda."

38 posted on 06/03/2003 12:10:53 PM PDT by Under the Radar
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To: Corin Stormhands
That statement is just plain rude and ignorant.

I stand by it.

39 posted on 06/03/2003 12:11:40 PM PDT by Under the Radar
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To: Pan_Yans Wife
I thought the segment where the two older daughters made her mac and cheese for her birthday supper was so sweet!

They must have beenn four and six at the time.
40 posted on 06/03/2003 12:11:54 PM PDT by annyokie (provacative yet educational reading alert)
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To: ErnBatavia
Ditto on that too. I had thought I had done this one time and as I looked quickly through my purse and pocket for my keys(they had fallen on the ground) my mind was thinking about how I could bust the windows out. We used to live in Phoenix, so there was no time for locksmiths or what have you when your baby is in the car. Fortunately, the few times I have locked my keys in the car, my children were out already and we got a coke while we waited for the locksmith to arrive. Now, times aren't as crazy as then. WE have preschool and kinder age and they will unlock the doors if requested.
41 posted on 06/03/2003 12:15:08 PM PDT by glory
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To: Under the Radar
Now you're just babbling.

Unless of course you're advocating that women who will have to put a child in daycare should have an abortion.

Your logic escapes me.

42 posted on 06/03/2003 12:15:19 PM PDT by Corin Stormhands (http://wardsmythe.crimsonblog.com)
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To: Redbob
The mother of this child certainly deserves a big share of the blame - the child was HER responsibility, but the odds are she was too obsessed with the pursuit of material things to even consider staying home and raising the child she brought into this world.

Thanks a whole heck of a lot there Buddy. I've been a single parent for most of my life thanks to the guy that promised to take care of things and keep a job so that I could be home to take care of my kids. He was having so much fun down the road at the business he started that he walked out on me for a hussy that liked to come in the shop and hang all over him, left me with the kids to raise and in the last 14 years I got 2 child support payments, the second of which bounced. So, after being a stay at home mom my youngest was sent to daycare for the first time at age 3. I am sure I have cried more than she ever did for having to go to daycare and at the same time I've had to deal with people criticising me because in the midst of going to work and supporting my kids I've become something of a success story in the work that I do to support them. When I began hearing this story on the radio Sunday all those horrors of leaving the kids hit me again. And then this morning when the radio news came on that death was the item that woke me up. You ought to remember that you don't always know what mother's who put their kids in daycare have had to go through to land them in the spot where they're taking those kids to a daycare. A whole lot of time it has a lot to do with dead-beat men who don't stand up to taking care of their families!

43 posted on 06/03/2003 12:16:12 PM PDT by Wneighbor (this is my new tag line)
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To: Corin Stormhands
I am dumbfounded by anyone who could possibly blame the mom in this scenario!!!!

I am fortunate enough to have my mom care for my kids while I pay the bills. I am going to ignore the "holier than thou" crew on this thread.

As Hair would say....PFFFFFT!!!!!!

44 posted on 06/03/2003 12:16:26 PM PDT by RMDupree (HHD: Deep roots are not reached by the frost..)
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To: LizardQueen
Taxes, Schmaxes...........I do not understand these milquetoast, socalled "men" who cannot figure out how to support their family. If your educational and technical abilities are not up to par to support your family, you know what? get a second job, work over time, etc, etc, but do everything under the sun to keep your kids away from these miscreants making minimum wage at these so called day care centers......have you ever driven by one of these sad places around 5 pm, watching those poor kids waiting for their mothers?

It is heart wrenching.
45 posted on 06/03/2003 12:16:39 PM PDT by RomanCatholicProlifer
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To: annyokie
If it had been summer you would have busted the window. You wouldn't have gone in the house and smoked crack with your boyfriend or watched your favorite soap. I do not believe you would have left him there for hours. We are responsible for our actions. The way we respond to adverse conditions separates a mistake from a catastrophy. I would never have entrusted the care of my babies to someone making minimum wage. As many times as daycare centers have done this, it is no longer permissible.
46 posted on 06/03/2003 12:16:44 PM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (Paper or plastic? That is the question.)
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To: Under the Radar
CS: That statement is just plain rude and ignorant.

UTR: I stand by it.

CS: My work here is done.

47 posted on 06/03/2003 12:16:44 PM PDT by Corin Stormhands (http://wardsmythe.crimsonblog.com)
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To: Flurry
We decided that if we couldn't do it right (or at least what we have decided is right), we wouldn't do it at all. I had broached the subject of me working (I make about half again what he does) and him staying home but it was received with a snort.

A friend of my sister has that arrangement - the wife is very career-oriented and makes megabucks, while the husband is very mellow and non-ambitious, had a low-paying job and would rather be bird-watching ::lol::. He stays home with their daughter while she works, and it's worked out well for them.
The problem for him is isolation - a lot of the soccer moms think he's weird because he doesn't work, and he gets left out of the neighborhood mom-gatherings, which is too bad.

LQ
48 posted on 06/03/2003 12:17:34 PM PDT by LizardQueen
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To: Wneighbor
thank you, thank you, thank you ....
49 posted on 06/03/2003 12:18:07 PM PDT by proud_2_B_texasgal (a REAL dixie chick)
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To: Wneighbor; RMDupree
'bout time y'all showed up!
50 posted on 06/03/2003 12:19:05 PM PDT by Corin Stormhands (http://wardsmythe.crimsonblog.com)
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