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Motorcycle was clocked at 157mph, court told (w/photo)
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Posted on 06/18/2003 8:15:48 PM PDT by chance33_98

Motorcycle was clocked at 157mph, court told

By Stewart Payne (Filed: 18/06/2003)

A motorcyclist was recorded travelling at 157mph as he flashed past a police camera, followed by a friend doing 148mph, a court was told yesterday.

It is believed to be the highest speed recorded on a British road and both riders were warned to expect a stiff penalty after pleading guilty to dangerous driving.

Neil Bolger pleads guilty after being caught in a police speed trap in Buckinghamshire doing 148mph

The men, both 29, were said not to be racing each other. Andrew Osborne, from Leamington Spa, Warwicks, who was clocked at 157mph, and Neil Bolger, from Gaydon, Warwicks, must wait until next month to find out their sentence, but were given interim driving disqualifications.

Magistrates in Aylesbury, Bucks, heard that the men were spotted on the A421 near Buckingham speeding through an underpass on a dual carriageway noted as an accident blackspot. The road had a 70mph limit.

Theresa Murphy, prosecuting, said they overtook a lorry on a sweeping bend before being caught by the speed trap.

Darren Rogers, defending Osborne, a master technician, argued that the case should be dealt with by magistrates and not referred to the Crown Court.

Nicholas Devine, defending Bolger, a lorry driver, said that although he was travelling at excessive speed there were no aggravating features. "There is no evidence of alcohol or drugs," he said.

The case was adjourned for four weeks for reports.


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To: Bikers4Bush
The thing is, wire gagues, pipe sizes, 2x4's, and other nominal sizes don't change in metric construction.

Instead of 24" or 18" stud spacing, you have 600mm or 400mm stud spacing, and instead of 4x8 drywall or plywood, you have 1200x2400mm plywood (so that it fits nicely on your 600mm or 400mm stud spacing), of the same thickness. The modular stuff is about the only thing that actually has to change size.

And its easier in many ways too - "For example, which has the greater thermal capacity, a 22 million Btu/hr boiler or a 1000 ton chiller? Using metric units, you can tell instantly: the boiler is 6.4MW and the chiller is 3.5MW."

http://www.nibs.org/poster2.PDF
101 posted on 06/19/2003 9:43:50 AM PDT by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: 1Old Pro
I think the photo also shows 229 kph.

oops, 222

In my old riding days in England in the 1960s, *running the ton* [100MPH] was the usual common goal. If that sounds pretty tame compared to some of the numbers so casually kicked around elsewhere in this post, note that such burnouts usually happened after the bike's operators were finished with a day's work and tired, in English weather, at night, and with traffic on London's North Circular Road that included lumbering goods lorries just ahead...and on bikes that were *daily drivers* with little more protective gear other than a leather jacket and *maybe* a *puddin' bowl* helmet of that time period.

Now the number has grown a bit, switched over to the metric way of doing things too. Instead of the magic *ton* the mark to shoot for is now *deuces*- 222 KPH.

Been there, done that. Didn't fall off, so I'm still around to talk about it.

-archy-/-

102 posted on 06/19/2003 9:46:18 AM PDT by archy (Keep in mind that the milk of human kindness comes from a beast that is both cannibal and a vampire.)
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To: Travis McGee
My only issue was speed and handling and the fact that Hog posuers bug me.
I would love to own an old XR-750 like Jay Springsteen rode:


103 posted on 06/19/2003 9:48:34 AM PDT by wardaddy (I was born my Papa's son....when I hit the ground I was on the run.....)
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To: SoDak
I had a V45 up to 125....Always wanted a 65, another guy told me he had his up to 150, in the desert.....
104 posted on 06/19/2003 9:51:11 AM PDT by hobbes1 ( Hobbes1TheOmniscient® "I know everything so you don't have to" ;)
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To: archy
Nice car.

Nice car, indeed. The Miura was the first of the "exotics". What a beautiful blend of art and horsepower.

105 posted on 06/19/2003 9:51:37 AM PDT by Charles Martel
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To: JoeSixPack1
Had a 94 softail over 105, with a passenger on the back..so, Yes, 118 is def Possible.
106 posted on 06/19/2003 9:53:29 AM PDT by hobbes1 ( Hobbes1TheOmniscient® "I know everything so you don't have to" ;)
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To: archy
The Miura is one of my all-time favorite autos. That flat-12 sitting right behind the driver made one helluva beautiful noise. ....Capable of 190 mph, if I remember correctly.

My 130 mph was in a Porsche Carrera 4. I was cruising along at a very easy 90 mph when some a-hole in a Toyota Supra decided to tailgate me. Didn't pass me, just tailgated. We were the only two out there on a wide open road, so I decided to see if he could keep up. He quickly became a dot in my rearview mirrow, so after a minute of that I slowed back down to 90 ....and he behaved himself thereafter.

107 posted on 06/19/2003 9:54:14 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: clintonh8r
at least they could have told us what the boys were riding.

Most any late model (99-03) sport 750, or literbike can run over 160mph. Honda Fireblades (900/929RR) are very popular and capable of 170ish.

Otherwise, a big Suzuki GSXR or Yamaha YZF can make 150 in less time than it takes to read this sentence.

The REALLY fast bikes, Hayabusas, ZX11/12, and Blackbirds, are good for nearly 200mph with a little work.

Japanese sport bike producers agreed to a moratiorum on top speed a few years back, so most of the sport bikes today are limited to 180mph, although few can nudge that limit.

108 posted on 06/19/2003 10:00:33 AM PDT by xsrdx (Diligentia, Vis, Celeritas)
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To: mvpel
I know, I'm just being a curmudgeon.

P.S. Sorry to read where you had to grow up. :-)
109 posted on 06/19/2003 10:01:27 AM PDT by Bikers4Bush
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To: archy
I was blowing down the autobahn once (I went to Europe a lot on business from 83-96) and I was doing about 120 in the rain in an MB 500 SEC(?) between Frankfurt and Basel on the Allemange side of the Rhine near Colmar France when a twin Turbo Renault rally-car blew by me like I was barely moving. My business partner and I were in awe.

Wish we could do that here.
110 posted on 06/19/2003 10:02:49 AM PDT by wardaddy (I was born my Papa's son....when I hit the ground I was on the run.....)
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To: archy
Nice car.

I have a unnatural, unrequieted love for the Muria.

My first love will probably always be the Ferrari Daytona, but that *particular* Lambo just gets me right where it hurts.

111 posted on 06/19/2003 10:06:30 AM PDT by xsrdx (Diligentia, Vis, Celeritas)
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To: xsrdx; archy; Charles Martel
Muria=Miura *doh*

You might enjoy this

Lamborghini Miura

112 posted on 06/19/2003 10:21:02 AM PDT by xsrdx (Diligentia, Vis, Celeritas)
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To: archy
Interesting
113 posted on 06/19/2003 10:26:41 AM PDT by 1Old Pro (The Dems are self-destructing before our eyes, How Great is That !)
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To: wardaddy
I was in a Porsche RUF 928 S-4

Wow. And an H2 triple also. You sound like a guy with a need for speed.

Always kinda dug that 928; Porsche needs to put that Cayenne turbo V8 in a front engined GT.

114 posted on 06/19/2003 10:27:21 AM PDT by xsrdx (Diligentia, Vis, Celeritas)
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To: hobbes1
The V65 had too much power really, I'm extremely lucky I didn't get killed on it. But, I did have a blast. In fact, lately, I have been cruising the ads looking for maybe a cheap Shadow or V65 to ride to work. I'd love a Harley, but I don't have 20K laying around.
115 posted on 06/19/2003 10:45:19 AM PDT by SoDak
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To: ChemistCat; archy
From the picture it seems as though he is riding on the right side of the road - don't they drive on the left side in GB?
116 posted on 06/19/2003 10:50:16 AM PDT by Semper
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To: SoDak
I picked up a 79 XLS Sportster for $1800, I got it from a Harley repair/equipment store. The owner of the bike was in a minor accident, and the insurance company was giving him $2000 for the bike, and he wanted 3800. The repair shop had the bike, and the owner agreed to sell it for 1800, plus the 2000 from the insurance company. I didn't have a car, just the Sportster, for two years in DC (winter kinda sucked, BTW), putting 70k miles on it, then sold it for $1500. If you're looking for a used Harley, I suggest cozying up to some local bike repair shops.
117 posted on 06/19/2003 10:59:14 AM PDT by USAF_TSgt
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To: USAF_SSgt
I'm 6'6, 290, I cannot be seen on a Sportster, I'd make it look like a moped.
118 posted on 06/19/2003 11:05:05 AM PDT by SoDak
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To: SoDak
Yeah, no Sportster for you, but there may be other, larger bikes in a similar pickle as the Sportster was for me.
119 posted on 06/19/2003 11:08:30 AM PDT by USAF_TSgt
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To: xsrdx
I saw a Cayenne Turbo SUV the other day...I thought from the rear it was a Volvo SUV till he stomped on it.

Amazing but strange.

Yep...the old H2s were a blast but squirrely as hell. High speed oscillating in curves was the norm.

I had a set of 3 into 3 old Denco expansion chambers I used to put on it....geez...you could hear it for miles around.

I "Cafe-ed" it as best you could back then with reverse clubmans and rear sets and mikunis and stacks etc. She was about an 11 second bike.....very very quick from the top of first going into second when that power band struck...big wheelies. We're talking spring shocks back then..lol...about the same handling as a Norton Commando but much quicker.
120 posted on 06/19/2003 11:41:55 AM PDT by wardaddy (I was born my Papa's son....when I hit the ground I was on the run.....)
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To: wardaddy
Two stroke streetbikes are cool. Looks like even 500GP is moving to four strokes though, and now MX 4 strokes are pretty common.

I had a CR450R back in 1981, I weighed about 120 wet and the thing would get to 60 in about 2.5 seconds if I could hang on and keep the front end down.

My first streetbike was an 81 GPz550, then I sold it for an 82 1000 Katana. Funky ride, also lighting fast when it came out, 11.29@122mph IIRC.

Now my 96 ZX9R sits in the garage a lot, kids sort of change your schedule.

I like the new GSXR, but its ugly -I hope Honda can find some horsepower with the promised CBR1000 next year because I think the big RR's are great looking rides.

121 posted on 06/19/2003 12:02:50 PM PDT by xsrdx (Diligentia, Vis, Celeritas)
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To: wardaddy
"Buy your son a murdercycle for his last birthday."
122 posted on 06/19/2003 12:17:12 PM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Mr. Mojo
For a real high-speed treat, try dialing in at 135 on one of the old Mercedes 560 SEL's. If you're on an open highway, you have absolutely no feeling of speed whatsoever. Your only real indication is the speedometer (and maybe the Geo or two you smush along the way). It's like a high-speed baracalounger.
123 posted on 06/19/2003 12:21:34 PM PDT by atlaw
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To: Travis McGee
I don't want a pickle ...
124 posted on 06/19/2003 12:22:02 PM PDT by cinFLA
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To: Travis McGee
Pith master bump...

You need to screenwrite an Elmore James style movie with those lines...
125 posted on 06/19/2003 1:04:10 PM PDT by wardaddy (I was born my Papa's son....when I hit the ground I was on the run.....)
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To: hobbes1
Same engine, mine is a 95 flhtc.

(with a few goodies thrown in so the Honda guys don't beat me up too bad...:-)}
126 posted on 06/19/2003 1:13:22 PM PDT by JoeSixPack1 (POW/MIA - Bring 'em home, or send us back! Semper Fi)
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To: xsrdx
My road warrior days are over though I wish I had a stable of Dukes, Bimotas, Aprillas etc for investment purposes.

a good 900 desmo goes for multiples of the original price and looks great....

...so does a cherry H2 actually..

Who was that early GP racing great from the US...even before KR....I remember he wore a flat top haircut....??

I used to ride a friend's RD 350 or 400 (?)...it was a little pocket rocket too...

The GPZs were arguably the first modern outta the box cafe bikes mass produced you know...
127 posted on 06/19/2003 1:49:55 PM PDT by wardaddy (I was born my Papa's son....when I hit the ground I was on the run.....)
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To: dalereed
I got a ticket for doing 20 in a 35 on Hawthorne Blvd., cruising in a lowered '54 Merc. That was before I caught the "need for speed". Corvettes only, now.
128 posted on 06/19/2003 2:04:06 PM PDT by A Navy Vet ( b)
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To: Travis McGee
(elmore leonard)....geez a dissolving cerebellum is a terrible thing to endure..
129 posted on 06/19/2003 2:09:06 PM PDT by wardaddy (I was born my Papa's son....when I hit the ground I was on the run.....)
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To: chance33_98
Boys will be Boys.
130 posted on 06/19/2003 2:14:41 PM PDT by VaBthang4 (Could someone show me one [1] Loserdopian elected to the federal government?)
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To: clintonh8r
>>>My guess would be Huyabusas, capable of approaching 200 mph. <<<

Huyabusas sounds about right. But I understand in the ER they call these 'donor' cycles.
131 posted on 06/19/2003 2:15:14 PM PDT by MalcolmS (Do Not Remove This Tagline Under Penalty Of Law!)
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To: xsrdx
It's not dead sexy like the Miura, but the Iso Grifo was one interesting piece of machinery, too. Those were the early days of Shelby-American and everyone was playing with the engine-transplant concept. Iso used a Can-Am spec Chevy big-block. All that torque made the lack of V-12 music easier to overlook.


132 posted on 06/19/2003 2:28:44 PM PDT by Charles Martel
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To: abner
Not only that, why would the camera be on a turn? Seems silly to me.

I think you're right. The speed radar works by detecting how fast something is moving away or toward it. A vehicle travelling through a turn (i.e. moving laterally with respect to the radar) would show a lower speed to the radar its than actual speed.

133 posted on 06/19/2003 4:39:09 PM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity
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To: Semper
From the picture it seems as though he is riding on the right side of the road - don't they drive on the left side in GB?

They do indeed, as in Japan, though in Germany they drive on the righthand side like Americans [mostly!] do. But the pic of that particular '67 Lambo Miura is of Kirk Stevenson's during *Italian Car Day* in Atlanta last year.

Those folks put on quite a showing; even had a couple of Ducati and Guzzi motorbikes show up last year.

That's Kirk's Miura, which was voted best Lamborghini at the event, on the right, next to the red ragtop.

-archy-/-


134 posted on 06/20/2003 11:04:31 AM PDT by archy (Keep in mind that the milk of human kindness comes from a beast that is both cannibal and a vampire.)
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To: Charles Martel
It's not dead sexy like the Miura, but the Iso Grifo was one interesting piece of machinery, too. Those were the early days of Shelby-American and everyone was playing with the engine-transplant concept. Iso used a Can-Am spec Chevy big-block. All that torque made the lack of V-12 music easier to overlook.

The purists with the Italian silk shirts and pointy-toe shoes would be outraged, but I suppose a 12-hole Jag engine might be transplanted into one....$700 Canadian for one [running!] from Longrun....


135 posted on 06/20/2003 11:13:43 AM PDT by archy (Keep in mind that the milk of human kindness comes from a beast that is both cannibal and a vampire.)
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To: wardaddy
Who was that early GP racing great from the US...even before KR....I remember he wore a flat top haircut....??

Mike *the bike* Hailwood? Not from the U.S., and I think of him with more of a receding hairline, but back around '67 when he took the French Grand Prix at Clermont Ferrand on a Honda 250cc 6-cylinder he may have had a crewcut. Flattracker Joe Leonard comes to mind, too, I think he got into GP bikes for a bit before switching over to Indy cars, and he wore his hair like the former Marine he was.


136 posted on 06/20/2003 11:34:59 AM PDT by archy (Keep in mind that the milk of human kindness comes from a beast that is both cannibal and a vampire.)
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To: SoDak; USAF_SSgt
I'm 6'6, 290, I cannot be seen on a Sportster, I'd make it look like a moped.

Yeah, no Sportster for you, but there may be other, larger bikes in a similar pickle as the Sportster was for me.

Roadog. I understand one of the two prototypes *Wild Bill* Gelbke built preceeding his *Auto Four* project is available for sale. And there were seven or eight of the Auto-fours completed, and one of them might be available. That ol' boy was WAY ahead of his time.


137 posted on 06/20/2003 11:49:37 AM PDT by archy (Keep in mind that the milk of human kindness comes from a beast that is both cannibal and a vampire.)
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To: archy
Whoah baby! That's a bike.
138 posted on 06/20/2003 11:54:45 AM PDT by SoDak
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To: mhking
Brings new meaning to "crotch rocket"...

IMHO, "numnutz" is the more appropriate terminology in this situation.
I'm sure FReepers will come up with plenty of other substitutes for these speeding weiners.

139 posted on 06/20/2003 12:09:24 PM PDT by Willie Green (Go Pat Go!!!)
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To: martin_fierro
This is the Martin-Fierro Butt Cycle, AKA The Spanish Moon Shot!


140 posted on 06/20/2003 12:15:57 PM PDT by JoeSixPack1 (POW/MIA - Bring 'em home, or send us back! Semper Fi)
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To: JoeSixPack1
Oh you're just jealous, you thilly thavage. <|:)~
141 posted on 06/20/2003 12:29:26 PM PDT by martin_fierro (A v v n c v l v s M a x i m v s)
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To: xsrdx
Nice car.

I have a unnatural, unrequieted love for the Muria.

My first love will probably always be the Ferrari Daytona, but that *particular* Lambo just gets me right where it hurts.

They're marvelous machines, but you either need the skills and shop to keep one in tune, or the services and ability of one so qualified and convenient to your location to keep one in the condition they deserve.

It may be that my initial encounter with that Muria unsettled me enough that my eye wandered elsewhere. But I've always had a fondness for the Diablo myself, though I can make do with something a little less exotic.


142 posted on 06/20/2003 12:33:04 PM PDT by archy (Keep in mind that the milk of human kindness comes from a beast that is both cannibal and a vampire.)
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
would show a lower speed to the radar its than actual speed

It seems likely that the actual speed is recorded in a straightaway directly toward the camera's speed sensor, (max speed in the line of sight, min speed across the line of sight, Then, after the rider passes the sensor, the camera takes the picture from behind in order to get the license plate. I'd bet a paycheck the speed displayed in the photo is not the speed at the time of the photo, but rather, the max speed since target acquisition. Just a guess, though.

143 posted on 06/20/2003 12:33:23 PM PDT by j_tull (# grep "truth" "Living History" > truth.txt ; wc truth.txt <cr> 0)
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To: martin_fierro
Hey, how did this thread turn into a 4-wheel cage show???

Thilly Thavage??? ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!

*<|:-)~~
144 posted on 06/20/2003 12:36:18 PM PDT by JoeSixPack1 (POW/MIA - Bring 'em home, or send us back! Semper Fi)
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To: SoDak
Whoah baby! That's a bike.

Not only that, it was Bill's daily driver. I first saw him and it at the Illinois State Fair at Springfield back in '65 or so. Seeing it and talking to him was what gave me the kick in the pants to rebuild my old Willys Jeepster, which had tossed a rod in it's six-banger flathead, with a Kettering 500 V-8 out of a '54 Cadillac.

It worked pretty good.

-archy-/-

145 posted on 06/20/2003 12:36:52 PM PDT by archy (Keep in mind that the milk of human kindness comes from a beast that is both cannibal and a vampire.)
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To: JoeSixPack1
Hey, how did this thread turn into a 4-wheel cage show???

I was just wondering that m'own se'f.

146 posted on 06/20/2003 12:38:26 PM PDT by martin_fierro (A v v n c v l v s M a x i m v s)
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To: Semper
would show a lower speed to the radar its than actual speed

Yes, but the article says the road is a "dual carriageway" which is Brit for a limited access freeway. The fast lane is the right hand lane.

147 posted on 06/20/2003 12:38:36 PM PDT by j_tull (# grep "truth" "Living History" > truth.txt ; wc truth.txt <cr> 0)
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To: JoeSixPack1
Hey, how did this thread turn into a 4-wheel cage show???

Good iron is good iron, even when bits of it are aluminum or fiberglass, or even less common things.

They run on the same roads.

-archy-/-

148 posted on 06/20/2003 12:39:07 PM PDT by archy (Keep in mind that the milk of human kindness comes from a beast that is both cannibal and a vampire.)
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To: clintonh8r
Not a BSA Lightning? (I guess I'm dating meself, mate...)
149 posted on 06/20/2003 12:40:17 PM PDT by Pharmboy (Dems lie 'cause they have to...)
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To: clintonh8r
Found a '71...


150 posted on 06/20/2003 12:44:13 PM PDT by Pharmboy (Dems lie 'cause they have to...)
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