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Motorcycle was clocked at 157mph, court told (w/photo)
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Posted on 06/18/2003 8:15:48 PM PDT by chance33_98

Motorcycle was clocked at 157mph, court told

By Stewart Payne (Filed: 18/06/2003)

A motorcyclist was recorded travelling at 157mph as he flashed past a police camera, followed by a friend doing 148mph, a court was told yesterday.

It is believed to be the highest speed recorded on a British road and both riders were warned to expect a stiff penalty after pleading guilty to dangerous driving.

Neil Bolger pleads guilty after being caught in a police speed trap in Buckinghamshire doing 148mph

The men, both 29, were said not to be racing each other. Andrew Osborne, from Leamington Spa, Warwicks, who was clocked at 157mph, and Neil Bolger, from Gaydon, Warwicks, must wait until next month to find out their sentence, but were given interim driving disqualifications.

Magistrates in Aylesbury, Bucks, heard that the men were spotted on the A421 near Buckingham speeding through an underpass on a dual carriageway noted as an accident blackspot. The road had a 70mph limit.

Theresa Murphy, prosecuting, said they overtook a lorry on a sweeping bend before being caught by the speed trap.

Darren Rogers, defending Osborne, a master technician, argued that the case should be dealt with by magistrates and not referred to the Crown Court.

Nicholas Devine, defending Bolger, a lorry driver, said that although he was travelling at excessive speed there were no aggravating features. "There is no evidence of alcohol or drugs," he said.

The case was adjourned for four weeks for reports.


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1 posted on 06/18/2003 8:15:48 PM PDT by chance33_98
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To: Howlin; Ed_NYC; MonroeDNA; widgysoft; Springman; Timesink; dubyaismypresident; Grani; coug97; ...
Brings new meaning to "crotch rocket"...

"Hold muh beer 'n watch this!" PING....

If you want on or off this list, please let me know!

2 posted on 06/18/2003 8:19:53 PM PDT by mhking
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To: chance33_98
The Brits give speeding tickets in mph?
3 posted on 06/18/2003 8:21:59 PM PDT by ChemistCat (Transformers look just as good by morning light as they did the night before.)
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To: chance33_98
The Bloke was also leaning into a turn when he was caught!

Good for him! Hope he enjoys walking for the next two years.

4 posted on 06/18/2003 8:22:21 PM PDT by ex-Texan (primates capitulards toujours en quete de fromage!)
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To: chance33_98; 68 grunt; A Navy Vet; angry elephant; archy; Askel5; baddog1; basil; beowolf; ...
FReeper Motorcycle Hooligan
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5 posted on 06/18/2003 8:23:44 PM PDT by martin_fierro (A v v n c v l v s M a x i m v s)
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To: chance33_98
Geez, at least they could have told us what the boys were riding. My guess would be Huyabusas, capable of approaching 200 mph. But not with me on it! The Brits are mad for their bikes.
6 posted on 06/18/2003 8:30:09 PM PDT by clintonh8r (You can have no better friend and no worse enemy than a US Marine.)
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To: chance33_98
(unless my eyes are too tired):
No mention of what brand/model of motorcycles were involved!

Guess they don't want other folks to get any ideas.
7 posted on 06/18/2003 8:32:56 PM PDT by VOA
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To: ChemistCat
I was wondering about that, too. Whenever I've watched TV shows that show the Brit cops after a suspect, the dash/road cam always showed kilometers/hour.
8 posted on 06/18/2003 8:33:13 PM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
Not only that, why would the camera be on a turn? Seems silly to me.
9 posted on 06/18/2003 8:36:12 PM PDT by abner (www.usflagballoon.com<<<----- Shameless plug)
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To: abner
I would think that somebody from the FIM would be calling these two guys for a test...
10 posted on 06/18/2003 8:40:50 PM PDT by ChefKeith (NASCAR...everything else is just a game!)
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To: abner
Also, based on my experiences, that curve and his lean angle look a little off for 157 miles an hour.
11 posted on 06/18/2003 8:41:58 PM PDT by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: VOA
Well, we can rule out Harley Davidsons right off the bat, of course.
12 posted on 06/18/2003 8:42:28 PM PDT by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: clintonh8r
Aprilia
13 posted on 06/18/2003 8:43:06 PM PDT by SICSEMPERTYRANNUS (Qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: chance33_98
I wouldn't presume to vouch for the accuracy of the speedometer on my V65 Magna which I owned in college, but I took that up to around 166-168 once on a straightaway on a calm evening. My helmet was threatening to rip my head off at the time so I couldn't see the exact number.
14 posted on 06/18/2003 8:44:17 PM PDT by SoDak
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To: mvpel
Well, we can rule out Harley Davidsons right off the bat, of course.

LOL! Yea, it would have skidded out on the oil slick it left behind...

Flame suit on...

15 posted on 06/18/2003 8:45:07 PM PDT by abner (www.usflagballoon.com<<<----- Shameless plug)
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To: mvpel
And of course, if it was a Norton, you can look for the leak tracks and the sore right knee... (grin)
16 posted on 06/18/2003 8:45:46 PM PDT by bootless (Never Forget)
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To: mvpel
What?
My FLHRCI can get up over 180 (during freefall).
17 posted on 06/18/2003 8:46:09 PM PDT by ChiefKujo
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To: chance33_98
My first instinct is to answer: COOL!

But, you can't let them continue to do this.. Some innocent is going to be killed eventually.

They're either going to have to move off the highway or go to germany and ride on the autobahn, where this kind of thing is expected.

18 posted on 06/18/2003 8:52:29 PM PDT by Jhoffa_
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To: ChemistCat
The Brits give speeding tickets in mph?

It doesn't surprise me. It's a total police state.

19 posted on 06/18/2003 8:54:40 PM PDT by Mulder (Live Free or die)
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To: ChemistCat
The Brits give speeding tickets in mph?

The mile is still in common usage, as far as I can remember. My British friends talk about going "0 to 60" not "0 to 100", and the last time I was outside of London, the traffic report I had on was reading off distances in miles.
20 posted on 06/18/2003 8:56:27 PM PDT by July 4th
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To: SICSEMPERTYRANNUS
You think perhaps an Aprilia RSV? The right-side oblong-shaped muffler looks like a good match:


21 posted on 06/18/2003 8:57:14 PM PDT by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: Jhoffa_
My first instinct is to answer: COOL!

I don't blame the guy one bit.

The Brits have banned guns. They no longer recognize the Right to self defense. They are trying to do away with private property and the Right to jury trials.

So if you're going to be treated as a slave, you might as well do as you damn well please.

I hope the Brits decide to strip this "criminal" of his citizenship, so he can come here and gain citizenship.

We sure could use some more folks who possess the spirit of Freedom and Independence.

22 posted on 06/18/2003 9:00:07 PM PDT by Mulder (Live Free or die)
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To: abner
"Not only that, why would the camera be on a turn? Seems silly to me."

It's England. They have cameras everywhere. Riders like to accelerate into and through a curve, so the cops just picked the highest camera reading.

23 posted on 06/18/2003 9:02:48 PM PDT by spunkets
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To: mvpel
"Well, we can rule out Harley Davidsons right off the bat, of course."

hahaha...

24 posted on 06/18/2003 9:04:00 PM PDT by spunkets
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To: Mulder
I have to admit, I am not real angry at this particular "criminal"

I have done far worse myself and throughly enjoyed every minute of it.

130+ in a 280-Z. Steering wheel in one hand, beverage in the other.

25 posted on 06/18/2003 9:04:42 PM PDT by Jhoffa_
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To: spunkets
If you decelerate through a curve on a motorcycle your rear tire is apt to slip out from under you, resulting in a "lowside" if the tire never regains its grip, and a "highside" if it does.


26 posted on 06/18/2003 9:06:19 PM PDT by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: chance33_98
A motorcyclist was recorded travelling at 157mph as he flashed past a police camera, followed by a friend doing 148mph, a court was told yesterday.

I hate this dude, I thought I was the overall speed champion clocked and ticketed at 149mph (not that the cops cought me, .

Since Europe uses metric system, that would amount to 238km/h.

27 posted on 06/18/2003 9:06:40 PM PDT by danmar ("The two most common elements in the Universe is Hydrogen and Stupidity" Albert Einstein)
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To: Jhoffa_
"But, you can't let them continue to do this.. Some innocent is going to be killed eventually."

For a skilled and seasoned motorcycle rider, and today's modern technology in bikes, and under the right conditions (no traffic, open stretch of empty highway), 157 mph can be accomplished quite safely. It's all relative.

28 posted on 06/18/2003 9:07:49 PM PDT by Bob Mc
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To: chance33_98
I have a Kawasaki ZX-11, capable of 176 mph but have not seen it above about 145-150 (in Nevada). Also a Harley, capable of about 105 but it would probably blow up at that speed after about 10 minutes.
29 posted on 06/18/2003 9:09:31 PM PDT by JoeFromCA
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To: mvpel
Well, we can rule out Harley Davidsons right off the bat, of course.

My thoughts exactly!!!!!!!

30 posted on 06/18/2003 9:11:09 PM PDT by JoeSixPack1 (POW/MIA - Bring 'em home, or send us back! Semper Fi)
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To: mvpel
The concern is with the front tire. Acceleration transfers the load off the front tire. That allows it to keep it's grip. The back won't slip unless it's overloaded, or over braked.
31 posted on 06/18/2003 9:12:02 PM PDT by spunkets
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To: Bob Mc
You're absolutely right about relative speed. In Nevada, where you can see a straight road for 9 miles, 130 mph feels quite comfortable (although I have to admit that above that speed things begin to happen quite quickly).

Today's high performance motorcyles handle quite well at high speed, assuming you have an environment in which to place that speed.

32 posted on 06/18/2003 9:12:32 PM PDT by JoeFromCA
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To: Jhoffa_
130+ in a 280-Z.

That sounds like fun.

The safety nazis have really clamped down to the point where going 15 over in some states is now an arrestable offense.

33 posted on 06/18/2003 9:14:06 PM PDT by Mulder (Live Free or die)
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To: wardaddy; TEXASPROUD; Squantos
PING!
34 posted on 06/18/2003 9:16:07 PM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Mulder

Oh, I know..

There's no reason I can see for speed to be regulated as tightly as it is.

It's got to be the revenue stream & complete lack of fiscal dicipline that motivates this.

35 posted on 06/18/2003 9:16:33 PM PDT by Jhoffa_
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To: JoeFromCA
Also a Harley, capable of about 105 but it would probably blow up at that speed after about 10 minutes.

Nope.. I can get 118 out of mine and if I draft my pardner I get 122mph. Been there. Done that. And another thing, there is so much going on at 118 on my Electraglide FLHTC that I usually settle in at 100 and "style" down the road. :-)

But it likes 85 the best. :-)

36 posted on 06/18/2003 9:17:08 PM PDT by JoeSixPack1 (POW/MIA - Bring 'em home, or send us back! Semper Fi)
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To: Otto von Bismark
not that the cops cought me, .

What I ment, is that in Europe they "clock" you with cameras, and you receive your very own picture face and all, for your family album.

You are going to pay for the ticket, otherwise you will never see your bike registered, not to mention that your insurance is going sky high!

37 posted on 06/18/2003 9:18:23 PM PDT by danmar ("The two most common elements in the Universe is Hydrogen and Stupidity" Albert Einstein)
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To: Jhoffa_
In the 50s in Los Angeles we used to do better than that on San Fernando Rd. between Fletcher Dr. and Glendale Ave. tuning up the race cars.

Did have a cop write me up one time when I ducked into Van de Kamps drive in in the sprint car, guess it looked kind of out of place with the rest of the street cars!
38 posted on 06/18/2003 9:19:34 PM PDT by dalereed
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To: chance33_98
And the Bobbies caught them how...not in a Mini-Cooper I suspect.
39 posted on 06/18/2003 9:19:58 PM PDT by tubebender (FReepin Awesome...)
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To: martin_fierro
martin_fierro's all NEW RIDE! And he even tipped this one over a couple times before he figured it out.

*<|:-)~~~

He sez he likes the ALL STEEL seat, makes him feel the rode better! :-)

40 posted on 06/18/2003 9:23:46 PM PDT by JoeSixPack1 (POW/MIA - Bring 'em home, or send us back! Semper Fi)
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To: Jhoffa_
There's no reason I can see for speed to be regulated as tightly as it is.

I was almost in three wrecks on Friday alone, and none of them had anything to do with excessive speed. One wasn't paying attention and tried to merge into my lane. Another decided to make an illegal u-turn from the left-hand lane on a state highway with an 18-wheeler 100' back. And another failed to yield the right of way.

I doubt any of them would have gotten citations (or even warnings) if a state trooper was behind them.

On the other hand, if you're doing 10 over the limit, the armed meter maids will happily pull you over and write you up.

It's got to be the revenue stream & complete lack of fiscal dicipline that motivates this.

Yep. To the state, it's all about revenue. To the armed meter maids, it's all about an ego trip.

41 posted on 06/18/2003 9:24:27 PM PDT by Mulder (Live Free or die)
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To: ChemistCat
I believe they are called English measurements.
42 posted on 06/18/2003 9:25:20 PM PDT by Old Professer
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To: JoeSixPack1
rode = road
43 posted on 06/18/2003 9:25:46 PM PDT by JoeSixPack1 (POW/MIA - Bring 'em home, or send us back! Semper Fi)
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To: mvpel
What about Buells?
44 posted on 06/18/2003 9:27:28 PM PDT by cyborg (I'm a mutt-american)
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To: clintonh8r
Could be any bike these days. All modern super bikes have electronically limited speeds of 300kph, or 186mph. So, now the emphasis is on acceleration, not top speed.
45 posted on 06/18/2003 9:40:25 PM PDT by Melas
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To: Bob Mc
For a skilled and seasoned motorcycle rider, and today's modern technology in bikes, and under the right conditions (no traffic, open stretch of empty highway), 157 mph can be accomplished quite safely. It's all relative.

Disagree there Bob. There is no such thing as "No traffic" on public roads, just no apparent (to the rider) traffic. It's the one you didn't expect that gets you. These kinds of speeds necessitate a closed course, where a rider doesn't have to assume there is no traffic around the next bend.

46 posted on 06/18/2003 9:46:53 PM PDT by Melas
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To: spunkets
The concern is with the front tire.
My thoughts too. Can you imagine the "Pounds per square inch" holding that somebitch on the road.? Wow.!!
47 posted on 06/18/2003 9:46:56 PM PDT by Pompah
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To: SoDak
No bike, but my sleeper "stock" 180HP (asbestos & aluminum wrapped stock cast iron exhaust manifold + a straight/no muffler 2 1/2" exhaust pipe out the rear)'65 Corvair Corsa (w/only a non stock front Z-28 Camaro spoiler and 7"x15" rear 'Vette wheels w/G-6015s [6"x14" Z-28 front w/F-7014s]) pulled down to the "P" (MPH) on my stock 140mph speedo without close to redlining once "somewhere in the US".

(13" stock Corvair wheels; I ran 15" rears; instant top end, esp. with higher boost from my TRW)

Early NHRA & later SCCA a key...

BUT FOUR (4) WHEELS, NOT TWO (2)!

- I had heard a Corsa turbo stocker had turned 173mph at Bonneville and early (less HP) Corvair "stock" turbos were breaking over 104mph at NHRA 1/4 drags.

This I received as a personal challenge.

...Then there was the week in '59 when I showed how to shoehorn a 283ci Chevy SB into John Schultz's blown 6 cyl. engine AC Bristol after using a yardstick on my 283ci 270hp Impala...

(Sorry Shelby, you saw it at Opa Locka airfield where your were racing a Birdcage Maserati...)
48 posted on 06/18/2003 9:48:17 PM PDT by autoresponder (SOME CAN*T HANDLE THE TRUTH...THE NYT ESPECIALLY!)
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To: JoeFromCA
Also a Harley, capable of about 105 but it would probably blow up at that speed after about 10 minutes.

Trash talk, and untrue at that. An 883 will do about 115, and it's the little guy in the Harley family. Hell, the Buell Blast (the baby Harley) will do 95, and it's a one lunged 500cc thumper.

To rub it in even more, since the advent of the Evolution engine (and successively the twin cams and Revolution engine), reliability issues are nil.

49 posted on 06/18/2003 9:54:07 PM PDT by Melas
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To: JoeFromCA
Also a Harley, capable of about 105 but it would probably blow up at that speed after about 10 minutes.

Trash talk, and untrue at that. An 883 will do about 115, and it's the little guy in the Harley family. Hell, the Buell Blast (the baby Harley) will do 95, and it's a one lunged 500cc thumper.

To rub it in even more, since the advent of the Evolution engine (and successively the twin cams and Revolution engine), reliability issues are nil.

50 posted on 06/18/2003 9:54:11 PM PDT by Melas
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