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Motorcycle was clocked at 157mph, court told (w/photo)
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Posted on 06/18/2003 8:15:48 PM PDT by chance33_98

Motorcycle was clocked at 157mph, court told

By Stewart Payne (Filed: 18/06/2003)

A motorcyclist was recorded travelling at 157mph as he flashed past a police camera, followed by a friend doing 148mph, a court was told yesterday.

It is believed to be the highest speed recorded on a British road and both riders were warned to expect a stiff penalty after pleading guilty to dangerous driving.

Neil Bolger pleads guilty after being caught in a police speed trap in Buckinghamshire doing 148mph

The men, both 29, were said not to be racing each other. Andrew Osborne, from Leamington Spa, Warwicks, who was clocked at 157mph, and Neil Bolger, from Gaydon, Warwicks, must wait until next month to find out their sentence, but were given interim driving disqualifications.

Magistrates in Aylesbury, Bucks, heard that the men were spotted on the A421 near Buckingham speeding through an underpass on a dual carriageway noted as an accident blackspot. The road had a 70mph limit.

Theresa Murphy, prosecuting, said they overtook a lorry on a sweeping bend before being caught by the speed trap.

Darren Rogers, defending Osborne, a master technician, argued that the case should be dealt with by magistrates and not referred to the Crown Court.

Nicholas Devine, defending Bolger, a lorry driver, said that although he was travelling at excessive speed there were no aggravating features. "There is no evidence of alcohol or drugs," he said.

The case was adjourned for four weeks for reports.


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To: Jhoffa_
130+ in a 280-Z.

My best "official" speed was 167 MPH in a 55 MPH zone... Clocked by California Highway Patrol...

It was a 1969 Buick Skylark- with drum brakes, no cage. But it did have a pumped-up Big-Block Chevy and a Muncie 4-speed. It's amazing I didn't smoke a bearing, and become one with telephone pole...

Of course, the kind officers seemed impressed with the car, but not with the fact that I'd pushed it that far....

((((Sigh)))) Stupid youth.... :-P

51 posted on 06/18/2003 9:58:39 PM PDT by Capitalist Eric
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To: Travis McGee; Squantos; TEXASPROUD
My old Suzuki GSR-1 with kunis and and a handformed yoshi etc would get in the high 150s

My later triple bored GPZ with all the trimmings possible would push 170 or so...she did 10.6 ETs all day long.

But...at speeds of over 130 or so I avoided curves like the one this gent is approaching at 148 in the vidcap.

Things actually seem sort of slow motion in a wierd way at those speeds if you're curled behind the faring and hugging the clip-ons over yer tank with yer feet planted in some rear sets...you can even talk to someone right next to you unless your pipes are uncapped.

I had nitrous on the GPZ too. These guys today have much lighter and nimble bikes and the tires are Star trek compared to my circa stone age 1979-1983 Dunlops or Michelins....I think Z-rated had just come out back then....now they have soft rubber compound stuff that will hold traction till your crankcase sides scrap.

I was in a Porsche RUF 928 S-4 on the Autobahn once with the preggers ex between Munich and Stuttgart and clipped about 180 or so out of her....when I hit a drifting wide turn....I felt like she was gonna go airborne...my ex woke up and tore my head off....I slowed down to respectable 130 or so...lol

I was only 29 or so.

Oh well....my 9 year old Land Rover will do about 95 downhill at low altitude with high humidity...she's all about torque.

I really was "Kenny Roberts" once...my first scooter was an H2 with all the go fast shite you could do to it. That was a real bike....nothing feels like a GP style 2 stroker on the power band...and the sound...wow....sort like multiple outboards on an import boat.
52 posted on 06/18/2003 10:12:13 PM PDT by wardaddy (I was born my Papa's son....when I hit the ground I was on the run.....)
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To: chance33_98
But but but England has "Imperial" Miles per hour don't they ?:o) Thus he was only doing 35 mph.
53 posted on 06/18/2003 10:12:20 PM PDT by Squantos (Cum catapultae proscriptae erunt tum soli proscript catapultas habebunt.)
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To: Pompah
" Can you imagine the "Pounds per square inch" holding that somebitch on the road.? Wow.!!

Ballpark is ~500-1000psi for hard and fast turns. It's the shear forces that cause the tire to slip though, and when the load approaches ~1000psi, the grip fails for most tires.

54 posted on 06/18/2003 10:27:15 PM PDT by spunkets
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To: wardaddy
The most I've done is 115mph on my Ninja 250 (downhill) and 169mph two-up on my ex's Honda 929. He races and stunts, I was just holding on,(although I did get to kneedrag two-up at Road America last summer.)
55 posted on 06/18/2003 10:28:02 PM PDT by photogirl (Support Our Troops!)
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To: chance33_98
157 mph is moving. The fastest I've ever driven was 130 mph (on I-5 in Southern Oregon), and things got a bit hairy at that speed.
56 posted on 06/18/2003 10:31:06 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: Jhoffa_; Mulder
It's got to be the revenue stream & complete lack of fiscal dicipline that motivates this.

Insurance companies. They've been behind every "safety" campaign since the 1950's. "Speed kills", "Friends don't let friends....","55: A Law We Can Live With", etc., all those slogans came out of their shops.

And they get the legislatures to lean on the state safety officials to write up their favorite offense. It used to be, long ago, that "excessive speed" was to be checked as a contributory cause on every highway accident report. Nowadays it's alcohol, as insurance companies (IMHO) drive to reduce BAC limits in order to ring up social drinkers for penalty premiums.

It's all about the money, honey. The moms and dads in MADD haven't figured that out yet.

These companies' contempt for humanity is absolutely immense -- just look how they treat their own workers, paying them nothing, driving them like serfs, monitoring them like prisoners of the Gulag, and then laying them off in droves.

And now they're our doctors. Oh, goody. Can you spell "Soylent Green"?

57 posted on 06/18/2003 10:34:44 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: Melas
Let it go, Melas.

You gotta let the crotch rocket boy racer wannabees have their fun talking trash to the Harley riders. After all, they're the ones who have no recourse but to go down the road humping a football . . .

The ONLY time those bikes are enjoyable to ride is when travelling +20MPH over the speed limit. All the other times they're reduced to wrestling with a nervous, twitchy, two-wheeled PITA ready to bite them at a moment's notice.

Show some empathy for our plastic enshrouded Hooligans. It's like being born in India; if you're not aware of anything better, life is good!

58 posted on 06/18/2003 10:39:11 PM PDT by BraveMan
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To: photogirl
169 two-up is getting it hon....

I'm 200-220 depending on the season.....I bet a lighter race rocket fellow could pull another 10mph out of my old bikes.

Your ex's bike must have been hot.

Caveat:....if anyone owns a bike...at some point they will hit the pavement or a car will hit them....they simply do not see bikes well and misjudge a bike's speed grossly.

A little fender bender can kill a biker or a major 120mph slide out or over the bars land sail can simply leave a bruised and shaken rider and a destroyed bike....it depends of the level of impact resistance. I saw a guy slam head on another parked bike one night at 130 or so and he was propelled over the bike like a cannon shot and when we found him his Shoie full coverage was turned all the way around but he had not a scratch...in the grass. Another guy hit a garbage truck at about 70...he left this planet instantly.

I'm too old to ride hard and I will never ever be a Hog poseur...it ain't me. I love the real deal old tattooed ex con outlaw bikers but yuppies on 30K Hogs and their cute little leathers just doesn't do it for me.

Nothing personal Hoggies!
59 posted on 06/18/2003 10:40:28 PM PDT by wardaddy (I was born my Papa's son....when I hit the ground I was on the run.....)
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To: Melas
I disagree Melas, I know stretches of road where I can see more than 5 miles ahead and you can count on one hand the number of vehicles coming through in a day.
60 posted on 06/18/2003 10:46:30 PM PDT by SoDak
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To: chance33_98
How can they prove that HE was the one driving? No proof there.

1.6 kilometeres equals 1 mile. thuse 150 km would be 93.75 that is nothing remarkable, but at a turn?
61 posted on 06/18/2003 10:51:59 PM PDT by longtermmemmory
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To: Capitalist Eric
Made good bucks in NC swapping in 454BBs into 4wd Blazers w/wiped 350SBs.

Flywheel, stock Chevy PU motor mounts and exhaust.

Chevy & other GM BBs drop into big'ol Jeep Wagoneers using a GM Chevy or BPO or Caddy THM400 tranny case & the AM GM THM400 guts.

Use an early Olds Variable-Pitch GM THM400 front pump and torque converter and put a toggle switch on the dashboard.

High & Low torque multipication on top of the High & Low 4wd transfer case.

Wow.

12 speeds fwd to use...

4 wheels smokin' off the line, a quick toggle touch and instant higher top end; a literal 5th speed.

Boneyard science from W-NC NASCAR mountain boys...
62 posted on 06/18/2003 10:54:50 PM PDT by autoresponder (SOME CAN*T HANDLE THE TRUTH...THE NYT ESPECIALLY!)
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To: JoeSixPack1
got 115 out of my old dresser. It was stock so I fixed it to go little faster.

Harley's are harder to blow because of the size of the engine and the pistons in particular. Old shovel engines are purported to be bulletproof too.

Regardless of what you ride there is only one universal truth, keep the rubber side down.

63 posted on 06/18/2003 10:58:06 PM PDT by longtermmemmory
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To: longtermmemmory
That's England LTM.

Miles....look closely at the vidcap...it says mph.

At 148 approaching a curve, he is reaching for an amateur.
64 posted on 06/18/2003 10:58:50 PM PDT by wardaddy (I was born my Papa's son....when I hit the ground I was on the run.....)
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To: wardaddy
And you lived to tell the tale. That's the most amazing part. (You better be writing this stuff down!)
65 posted on 06/19/2003 12:32:52 AM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: BraveMan
Rice burners and Harleys: the great divide, and never the twain shall meet.
66 posted on 06/19/2003 12:36:08 AM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: chance33_98
"A motorcyclist was recorded travelling at 157mph . . . "

Don't try this in Benton Harbor.

67 posted on 06/19/2003 2:07:32 AM PDT by Neanderthal (Kick their @$$ and take their gas.)
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To: spunkets
The Labour Party thought 1984 was a good idea.
68 posted on 06/19/2003 2:51:32 AM PDT by SevenDaysInMay
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To: Travis McGee
Rice burners and Harleys: the great divide, and never the twain twin V shall meet.
69 posted on 06/19/2003 3:04:36 AM PDT by Gone_Postal
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To: ChemistCat
The Brits give speeding tickets in mph?

That's right: we still use MPH and miles exclusively on the road.

In fact, it's illegal to use kmh speed limit signs and km distance signs. A local council was fined last year for using km on a footpath sign.

70 posted on 06/19/2003 4:34:06 AM PDT by Da_Shrimp
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To: chance33_98
In dumber years, I once did 147 up I-95, late at night...

Redlined my Katana 750. Scared the he!! out of me.
71 posted on 06/19/2003 5:16:01 AM PDT by MonroeDNA (huh?)
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To: JoeFromCA
105? That's pathetic, I've got a 1200 Custom Sportster that's pretty much stock and even it'll do 110-115 without a problem.
72 posted on 06/19/2003 5:42:54 AM PDT by Bikers4Bush
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To: mvpel
Well, we can rule out Harley Davidsons right off the bat, of course.

BUWAHAHAHAH

73 posted on 06/19/2003 5:45:05 AM PDT by BSunday (My other post is a pulitzer - winner)
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To: BraveMan
Wannabees??? HA!

Many Harley riders only ride because they "look good" on it parading down the boulevard. Talk about wannabe motorcyclists.

Give me a crotch rocket, or a dirt bike, or a real touring bike, or even a scooter for fun, any day over a parade bike.

I don't have anything against Harleys, would love to have one, just most Harley riders are amateurs and wannabes than most other types.

74 posted on 06/19/2003 6:52:08 AM PDT by Bob Mc
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To: ChemistCat
"The Brits give speeding tickets in mph?"

Oh the horror!! Wait till I tell the EU that these pesky Britons have the audacity to insist on english measurements. The EU will crush these British upstarts, just like they crushed George Bush and the mean spirited US. Oh, wait a minute, it was the US that crushed the pathetic EU.
75 posted on 06/19/2003 7:02:47 AM PDT by OldCorps
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To: JoeSixPack1

JoeSixPack1 says, "157 MPH? I can do that!" <|:)~

LOL!!!

76 posted on 06/19/2003 7:06:54 AM PDT by martin_fierro (A v v n c v l v s M a x i m v s)
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To: ChemistCat
The Brits give speeding tickets in mph?

I think the photo also shows 229 kph.

As far as this being the fastest ever clocked, that's surprising. Many cars can easily go that fast.....the cameras must be new.

77 posted on 06/19/2003 7:13:06 AM PDT by 1Old Pro (The Dems are self-destructing before our eyes, How Great is That !)
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To: 1Old Pro
I think the photo also shows 229 kph.

oops, 222

78 posted on 06/19/2003 7:16:03 AM PDT by 1Old Pro (The Dems are self-destructing before our eyes, How Great is That !)
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To: chance33_98
What's the problem? I am sure they had slowed down.
79 posted on 06/19/2003 7:21:18 AM PDT by PatrioticAmerican (If the only way an American can get elected is through Mexican votes, we have a war to be waged.)
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To: ChemistCat
The Brits give speeding tickets in mph?

Miles, pounds, gallons etc. are all called "Imperial Measures" and are a gift from the Brits.

In fact, there was quite a row a few years back when British butchers had to replace their imperial scales with metric ones.

Personally, as much as I dislike the French, the metric system is far superior to imperial. It is a shame it has never really taken off in our country. The only Americans who use the metric system are scientists and drug dealers.

80 posted on 06/19/2003 7:23:26 AM PDT by Drew68
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To: Capitalist Eric
My best "official" speed was 167 MPH in a 55 MPH zone... Clocked by California Highway Patrol...

It was a 1969 Buick Skylark- with drum brakes, no cage.

I saw a recent brake test where a drum brake equipped car took a quarter mile to stop from 100 mph. I am surprised you could haul that thing down from 167 before you got to Colorado.

81 posted on 06/19/2003 7:29:46 AM PDT by hopespringseternal
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To: chance33_98
They need one of those James Bond switching license plates. Or a little curtin/rag to cover that plate when having a good time.
82 posted on 06/19/2003 7:35:15 AM PDT by US_MilitaryRules (Daddy needs a Hummer! The H2 will do!)
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To: Drew68
The metric system sucks.
83 posted on 06/19/2003 7:36:45 AM PDT by Bikers4Bush
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To: SICSEMPERTYRANNUS
RST 1000 (Just like my brother has)
84 posted on 06/19/2003 7:47:05 AM PDT by battlegearboat
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To: Bob Mc; Travis McGee
Give me a crotch rocket, or a dirt bike, or a real touring bike, or even a scooter for fun, any day over a parade bike.

I rode by an elderly gentleman on an elegantly understated Vespa the other day. It was painted a beautiful pale blue with tan custom striping. He was wearing a helmet with a matching paint scheme, a pale blue short sleeved shirt and tan polyester pants. The old guy was stylin' down the boulevard around 15mph. I thought he looked great!

As I overtook him (with my clutch in and throttle down), I waved and turned my head to offer him a smile. His face wore this look of fun and excitement. It would have been impossible for him to conceal the enjoyment he was having. I started to imagine myself in his polished wingtip shoes; twilight years, gentle breeze in the face, gliding along on a refined, quiet, unassuming platform . . .

 

 

 

Nah . . .

85 posted on 06/19/2003 7:55:36 AM PDT by BraveMan
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To: Bikers4Bush
The metric system sucks.

Now how on earth could the metric system possibly suck?

86 posted on 06/19/2003 7:57:34 AM PDT by Drew68
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To: BraveMan
The important thing is...was he having fun?
87 posted on 06/19/2003 8:06:24 AM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Drew68
It sucks because it would mean that all housing codes and all standards would have to be rewritten.

On a personal note not a bit of it other than meters, centimeters, or millimeters makes a damn bit of sense to me.
88 posted on 06/19/2003 8:22:12 AM PDT by Bikers4Bush
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To: Travis McGee
I don't know. If the Buells ever get the engine from the V-Rod it will be interesting.
89 posted on 06/19/2003 8:26:46 AM PDT by Liberal Classic (Quemadmoeum gladis nemeinum occidit, occidentis telum est.)
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To: wardaddy
You can also tell he's an amateur because he pleaded guilty, instead of hiring a lawyer.
90 posted on 06/19/2003 8:35:23 AM PDT by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: autoresponder
160+ in a modified 2003 Cobra.......Fun!
91 posted on 06/19/2003 8:39:23 AM PDT by brazos.357
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To: Bikers4Bush
They're already doing metric construction in government contracts. Check out the NIBS "Construction Metrication" newsletter and some of their other publications. And besides, a half inch pipe isn't a half inch, and a 2x4 isn't 2"x4" anwyay.

One of their past issues had a story about the tricks they had to use to redo the Pentagon on a metric grid. Also, a lot of the high-end shingles these days are a meter long, instead of three feet.

92 posted on 06/19/2003 8:42:27 AM PDT by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: mvpel
Very true but I KNOW a 2x4 isn't actually 2x4 and a half inch pipe isn't half inch. It's not like I have to work at learning it.

Basically I'm too lazy to re-learn any of that stuff so by default I must say that it sucks.
93 posted on 06/19/2003 8:53:37 AM PDT by Bikers4Bush
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To: BraveMan
Now that's what I call a "parade bike"!

That old man has got it right. Ride till you die! That's my motto!

94 posted on 06/19/2003 8:56:06 AM PDT by Bob Mc
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To: spunkets
The concern is with the front tire. Acceleration transfers the load off the front tire. That allows it to keep it's grip. The back won't slip unless it's overloaded, or over braked.

And with aerodynamics. Without a fairing over the front tire and wheel, at a little over 160mph, sufficient lift is generated by the front rim to raise the front wheel off the ground, eliminating steering control, and can raise the front end enough for the airflow to continue raising the front end up until a 160mph endover occurs. They found that out back in the 1940s at Bonneville, but there are still folks rediscovering it on the streets with their new rice rockets every day. Usually only once.

-archy-/-


95 posted on 06/19/2003 9:15:00 AM PDT by archy (Keep in mind that the milk of human kindness comes from a beast that is both cannibal and a vampire.)
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To: martin_fierro
Hey, That things got a jet pack!!

I can do that!!

<|:-)~~
96 posted on 06/19/2003 9:23:55 AM PDT by JoeSixPack1 (POW/MIA - Bring 'em home, or send us back! Semper Fi)
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To: Mr. Mojo
157 mph is moving. The fastest I've ever driven was 130 mph (on I-5 in Southern Oregon), and things got a bit hairy at that speed.

I once ran a BMW factory R60 bike with taller than usual gearing [being prepared for the 24-hour endurance race in France, where the speeds average over 100 MPH for 24 hours, with a usual relay of riders] on the then speed limitless South Autobahn out of Munich at 138 MPH/222 KPH on a certified speedo...at those speeds, I was much more interested in watching what I was doing rather than looking at the clock.

But it was a beautiful and unseasonably warm Bavarian morning, with minimal traffic, and just right for a flat-out free ride of a VERY nice bike. And just as I topped the rise of a nice, long straightaway, I became aware of a pretty little red sportscar pulling up alongside of me. For all of a second or two, the driver looked at me with a *Very nice bike- I'll have to get one of those* look on his face. Then he pulled away from me at a good ten or 15 MPH better than I was doing.

Nice car.


97 posted on 06/19/2003 9:33:29 AM PDT by archy (Keep in mind that the milk of human kindness comes from a beast that is both cannibal and a vampire.)
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To: US_MilitaryRules
They need one of those James Bond switching license plates. Or a little curtin/rag to cover that plate when having a good time.

Refrigerator magnets work nicely. If your home state is one of those that uses aluminum plates, a plate-sized square of galvanized sheet steel beneath the license tag solves the problem.

And you'll sometimes see two shop towels sewn together with a magnet at each of the four corners. Same idea.

-archy-/-

98 posted on 06/19/2003 9:37:49 AM PDT by archy (Keep in mind that the milk of human kindness comes from a beast that is both cannibal and a vampire.)
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To: Travis McGee
My children will never own a motorcycle in my house...a four wheeler for deer camp is fine but a scooter...no way.

They can do like I did...get their own when they leave.

My little brother wants a crotch rocket like a Ducati or Bimota....I told him I was gonna get a term life policy on him....seriously...he didn't find that funny.
99 posted on 06/19/2003 9:38:26 AM PDT by wardaddy (I was born my Papa's son....when I hit the ground I was on the run.....)
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To: mvpel
Good Point.
100 posted on 06/19/2003 9:39:01 AM PDT by wardaddy (I was born my Papa's son....when I hit the ground I was on the run.....)
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