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SCOTUS strikes down Texas sodomy ban
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Posted on 06/26/2003 7:08:23 AM PDT by Thane_Banquo

SCOTUS sided with the perverts.


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To: MineralMan
Still, there are a lot of good ol' boys down in the Bible belt who are committing these heinous felonies with their own wives. Now, if they knew that they could lose their right to own firearms if tried and convicted of sodomy, maybe some of those laws would get repealed.

In your haste to applaud judicial activism and edicts from the Duma, you have failed to notice that those laws have been overturned in almost every state by the duly elected legislators.

1,181 posted on 06/26/2003 2:00:41 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: MileHi
The fed said they would ignore state law

False again. The state law never purported to nullify federal law, and its proponents explicitly conceded the point on the ballot.

1,182 posted on 06/26/2003 2:00:56 PM PDT by Roscoe
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To: jmc813
You must be thrilled that Jim Robinson considers Libertarians "our good friends".

Fiscally yes, socially no, but I serve at his pleasure.

1,183 posted on 06/26/2003 2:01:05 PM PDT by Clint N. Suhks
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To: HumanaeVitae
The way this plays out in this debate today is that homosexuals tell us they have a 'right' to engage in their behavior, which is uniformly destructive and anti-social.

Would you like to see smoking cigarettes be banned? What about fast food joints?

1,184 posted on 06/26/2003 2:02:01 PM PDT by jmc813 (If you're interested in joining a FR list to discuss Big Brother 4 on CBS, please FReepmail me)
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To: HumanaeVitae
This behavior damages society in that way because it breaks a taboo of society, namely that sex is for procreation inside of monogamous marriage

FYI -- Common sense & experience shows that the overwhelming anount of people in this society do not regard sex outside of marriage or sex for reasons other than procreation as "taboo".

...if that taboo is broken, then heterosexuals will start engaging in non-marital, non-monogamous sex, and cause all kinds of other problems such as adulterous relationships, children born out of wedlock and so on.

There are millions & millions of people in our society -- and on this very website -- who have had non-marital, non-monagamous sex with no consequences whatsoever. Same with sex for reasons other than procreation.

1,185 posted on 06/26/2003 2:02:58 PM PDT by gdani
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To: rintense
so you advocate government intrusion in private organizations and businesses.

can you say boy scouts of america.

when the shoe is on the other foot, you'll scream bloody murder at the intrusion.

i know i should be more sensitive (gag me) but when i see 2 guys kissing on tv, i change the channel. when i see 2 women kissing, though, i hit the record button. (just kidding)

my theory on why some men are grossed out by 2 men having sex, but enjoy watching 2 women go at it...when 2 women are having sex there are 2 naked women to look at. the more the merrier. just a thought.
1,186 posted on 06/26/2003 2:03:01 PM PDT by dmz
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To: MineralMan
Would you mind FReepmailing me the screen name of the FReeper you described? I've gotta check this out.
1,187 posted on 06/26/2003 2:03:44 PM PDT by jmc813 (If you're interested in joining a FR list to discuss Big Brother 4 on CBS, please FReepmail me)
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To: tpaine
LOL. But of course, the only right not enumerated by the 14th amendment in your copy of the Constitution is the right to life for the unborn.

In that instance, you become a federalist.

1,188 posted on 06/26/2003 2:03:56 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: jwalsh07
Homo-apologists fail to notice lots of things ... it makes them funny, don'tcha know!
1,189 posted on 06/26/2003 2:04:03 PM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote Life Support for others.)
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To: 68 grunt
[The Liberals and Libertarians are both in bed on this issue, cheering judicial legislation.]

And laughing at you

Comrades.

1,190 posted on 06/26/2003 2:04:35 PM PDT by Roscoe
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To: Thane_Banquo
If the 14th amendment is meant to protect a broad continuum of rights, then who defines these supposedly self-evident rights?

Tpaine, of course. See 1188.

1,191 posted on 06/26/2003 2:05:47 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: MineralMan; Thane_Banquo
Thane_Banquo needs to be told..

- Not that he will understand, of course.
1,192 posted on 06/26/2003 2:06:47 PM PDT by tpaine (Really, I'm trying to be a 'decent human being', but me flesh is weak.)
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To: jwalsh07
As a small-l libertarian, I agree with you to the extent that I'd have much prefered Texas to scrap this law on their own. But then again, I've been having a great time watching the "God Hates Fags" crowd expose their hypocrisy and claim that they're annoyed over the Constitutional machinations. BTW, I'm not referring to you above.
1,193 posted on 06/26/2003 2:07:09 PM PDT by jmc813 (If you're interested in joining a FR list to discuss Big Brother 4 on CBS, please FReepmail me)
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To: Kevin Curry
Libertarians are cheering.

So, explain why it's the libertarian's fault this time!

1,194 posted on 06/26/2003 2:08:40 PM PDT by Cathryn Crawford (...you doping libertine!)
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To: Antoninus
If you believe everything the Founders did or said was holy and sacred and perfect, then we disagree.
1,195 posted on 06/26/2003 2:09:56 PM PDT by GraniteStateConservative (Putting government in charge of morality is like putting pedophiles in charge of children.)
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To: dmz
my theory on why some men are grossed out by 2 men having sex, but enjoy watching 2 women go at it...when 2 women are having sex there are 2 naked women to look at. the more the merrier. just a thought.

There was a FReeper claiming the other day that men who enjoyed watching lesbians were in the "perverted minority". Riiiiight....

1,196 posted on 06/26/2003 2:10:09 PM PDT by jmc813 (If you're interested in joining a FR list to discuss Big Brother 4 on CBS, please FReepmail me)
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To: Cathryn Crawford
So, explain why it's the libertarian's fault this time!

It's not the "libertarians fault". It is a fault by those libertarians cheering the finding of rights in the penumbra of the Constitution once again by the 9 robes.

The same people who roundly criticised O'Connor and the 4 dwarves for replacing the word "diversity" for equal protection under the law are here today cheering her and Kennedy for again ignoring the Constitution and legislating from the bench.

Two different things.

1,197 posted on 06/26/2003 2:12:41 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: Cathryn Crawford
Did you catch the hilarious series of posts by Lazamataz today in which he parodized Kevin? Great stuff.
1,198 posted on 06/26/2003 2:13:01 PM PDT by jmc813 (If you're interested in joining a FR list to discuss Big Brother 4 on CBS, please FReepmail me)
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To: HumanaeVitae
"Actually, this is a huge problem for strict libertarianism. Case in point:"

Your example fails, because the folks in your case in point aren't libertarians. They're authoritarians. Your example is centered around a majority denying a right to a minority. That is not Freedom, it is authoritarian rule. There is no right to not have your sensibilities offended. (l)ibertarians understand this.

What commandment have the folks that form the minority in your case in point broken?

1,199 posted on 06/26/2003 2:13:20 PM PDT by spunkets
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To: jmc813
Would you like to see smoking cigarettes be banned? What about fast food joints

I always love how you libertarians reflexively appoint me Tsar. I have one vote. So do you. If you don't like my positions, vote against them. And no, neither.

1,200 posted on 06/26/2003 2:14:11 PM PDT by HumanaeVitae (Catholic Epimethean)
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