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SCOTUS strikes down Texas sodomy ban

Posted on 06/26/2003 7:08:23 AM PDT by Thane_Banquo

SCOTUS sided with the perverts.

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Comment #361 Removed by Moderator

To: Amelia
Unmarried sex for free has also been illegal. Problem is, how are you going to enforce it?

That's the point that's been lost in all of this. The cops cannot enforce this ban. So why am I bitching about it?

It is the job of society to uphold the public morality. It is the job of society to define what is right and wrong and then enforce it informally by shunning, social pressure, standards and so on. When everyone in a society agrees on what is right and what is wrong, then they pass laws to affirm what they already believe to be true. Most of the time, these laws are enforced by social disapproval of the behavior. If people's standards have changed, then they will repeal these laws via their elected officials.

What dimwittitarians don't realize is that every time something like this happens it's not 'liberty'. It's the increasing encroachment of the Feds arrogating more power to themselves. The entire purpose of the enumerated and delegated power structure of the federal Constitution was to let states and localities define for themselves the way they wish to live. Congrats libertarians. You got what you wanted, no voting required.

BTW, libertarians, the Bill of Rights was voted on, wasn't it? Oh, that's right. It was handed down in stone tablets from Mount Ayn Randi.

362 posted on 06/26/2003 8:51:04 AM PDT by HumanaeVitae (Catholic Epimethean)
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To: BlackjackHF
I guess it's separation of morality and state now, because only churches care about morality anymore (some of them still do).
364 posted on 06/26/2003 8:51:45 AM PDT by RAT Patrol (Congress can give one American a dollar only by first taking it away from another American. -W.W.)
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To: Belial
365 posted on 06/26/2003 8:52:22 AM PDT by TLBSHOW (The Gift is to See the Truth)
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To: Belial
I corrected myself later in the thread. Sorry for the misunderstanding.
366 posted on 06/26/2003 8:52:24 AM PDT by rintense (Thank you to all our brave soldiers, past and present, for your faithful service to our country.)
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To: Belial
It is interesting SCOTUS did not use the right to privacy rationale. That is the big suprise of this opinion. The result of striking down the criminalization of sodomy was widely anticipated as almost certain.
367 posted on 06/26/2003 8:52:27 AM PDT by Torie
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To: Thane_Banquo
Yikes !!


Michael Stark, left, and Michael Lashner pop champagne
and kiss after their wedding ceremony yesterday.
Leshner called the ruling, "Day One for millions of gays
and lesbians around the world."

Gay couple married after ruling
(Toronto, Canada)

368 posted on 06/26/2003 8:52:36 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (Bu-bye Dixie Chimps! / Check out my Freeper site !:
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To: E Rocc
"Age-related laws have not been overturned nor will they be, indeed the Constitution not only allows age restrictions it contains them. This ruling only says that it is none of government's business what grownups do."

Does this clear the way for incest, polygamy, drug use, etc.? If the ruling is specific enough it may not be a problem, but behavior must be regulated to some extent. There are too many wackos out there to give carte blanc
acceptance of 'what grownups do'
369 posted on 06/26/2003 8:53:09 AM PDT by bk1000
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To: BlackjackHF
What you're saying is that any illegal act is A-OK as long as it happens on your property.

More correctly, any act between consenting adults, which does not result in the intiation of force or fraud against others, is A-OK, as long as it happens on your property.

370 posted on 06/26/2003 8:53:26 AM PDT by OWK
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To: dead
"The Bill of Rights overrules “democracy” in favor of individual rights. "

When did the Bill of Rights change to give this protection to homosexuals and deny the state the power to make this law?

It did not when it was passed. What in the Constitution has changed?

I can understand someone agreeing with the result of the decision, but I cannot understand anyone accepting the process.

371 posted on 06/26/2003 8:53:28 AM PDT by mrsmith
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To: Kevin Curry
Libertarians are cheering the usurpation of the legislative powers reserved to the states by an all-powerful federal governmental body.

Do you have any articles or other citations to back this up, or are you just spewing as usual?

372 posted on 06/26/2003 8:53:39 AM PDT by jmc813 (If you're interested in joining a FR list to discuss Big Brother 4 on CBS, please FReepmail me)
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To: BlackjackHF
Maybe the fact that we live in a democracy? Maybe if they tried to do that those politicians wouldn’t be going back to the capital building? But no, you libertarians are right, they only thing stopping us from being Saudi Arabia or Taliban Afghanistan is an unelected oligarchy. Idiots.

Excuse me if I am wrong, but isn't it a democracy that got us into this discussion in the FIRST place? I believe the judicial branch of the government was something the Founders had envisioned.

BTW, since when does pointing out a philosophical fallacy (the slippery slope argument) make one become a libertarian? I'm sure you are a righteous fellow, no need to act it out by throwing around juvenile names.

373 posted on 06/26/2003 8:53:51 AM PDT by MaxPlus305
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To: 88keys
How many Libertarians does it take to screw in a lightbulb?

Two opinions:

1. None. They already see the light.

2. None. It doesn't matter because they're always in the dark.

Either way, the answer is none. ;^)~

374 posted on 06/26/2003 8:54:22 AM PDT by Cooter
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To: Torie
striking down the criminalization of sodomy was widely anticipated as almost certain.

As well it should have been.

375 posted on 06/26/2003 8:54:32 AM PDT by OWK
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To: sinkspur
"How does one "consume" a marriage, anyway?"

I think that falls under the category of _oral_ sex. That's illegal in several states, of course.
376 posted on 06/26/2003 8:54:39 AM PDT by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: Thane_Banquo
I don't understand why so many Freepers are opposed to government expansion and intrusion except when their own special interest is involved.
377 posted on 06/26/2003 8:54:56 AM PDT by Natural Law
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To: toothless
Not all freepers are conservatives, many are religious fundamantalists.

I prefer to call them "Christian Socialists".

378 posted on 06/26/2003 8:56:27 AM PDT by jmc813 (If you're interested in joining a FR list to discuss Big Brother 4 on CBS, please FReepmail me)
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To: The Red Zone
One word:

While I don't actually think this kind of stuff is the government's business this penumbra concept thing is very irritating. To use a metaphor that will speak to Tucsonans: it's like putting out a fire by blowing up the mountain.
379 posted on 06/26/2003 8:56:30 AM PDT by discostu (you've got to bleed for the dancer)
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To: jimbo123
Someone PLEASE send THIS to SCOTUS!:
380 posted on 06/26/2003 8:57:15 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (Bu-bye Dixie Chimps! / Check out my Freeper site !:
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