SCOTUS strikes down Texas sodomy ban

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[Thane_Banquo]

SCOTUS sided with the perverts.

[Liberal Classic]

Libertarians are cheering the usurpation of the legislative powers reserved to the states by an all-powerful federal governmental body.

With all due respect KC, there's nothing specifically in the Texas Constitution about sodomy, but indecency with children and sexual assault are still defined as violent felonies. The Texas Constitution similar language as the 4th Amendment in its Bill of Rights (The people shall be secure in their persons, houses, papers and possessions, from all unreasonable seizures or searches, and no warrant to search any place, or to seize any person or thing, shall issue without describing them as near as may be, nor without probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation) and are guaranteed equal rights (All free men, when they form a social compact, have equal rights, and no man, or set of men, is entitled to exclusive separate public emoluments, or privileges, but in consideration of public services) and protection (Equality under the law shall not be denied or abridged because of sex, race, color, creed, or national origin.) under law.

Had a married couple been found in flagrante delicto by the police when searching the wrong house, nothing would have happened to them. This is a right to equal protection under law and to be secure in their persons and houses.

[Blood of Tyrants]

Hell, you can have sex with animals as long as it is in private. You have the RIGHT to do so, now.

[OWK]

Don't bother saying the Bill of Rights or any part of the Constitution means whatever you say.

The Bill of Rights means what it says.

But curiously, it is a list which desribes restraints on government power. It is not intended to (nor does it attempt to) list the rights of every human being.

Had you even the remotest familiarity with the document, you would know this.

Again, I suggest that you educate yourself.

Read the 9th amendment in particular.

Your opinion is worthless.

Uh... yes, of course it is.

As is the opinion of anyone who isn't a slack-jawed parrot of the party line

The authors and ratifiers of the Constitution and it's amendments are only held in contempt by a few of you on this forum.

On the contrary.

[HumanaeVitae]

The Bill of Rights and the Federalist Papers explicitly state that the enumeration of Rights in the Constitution by no means limits the number of Rights we have.

And if you look at the laws of that period, 'individual rights' did not include homosexual sodomy. In fact, buggery was punishable by death in many of the colonies/early states. You can say "times have changed", but if "times have changed" that should be reflected by...voting. Again, libertarians are against voting.

[dead]

What I love most about this is liberals like dead going on about how terrible it is letting the unwashed masses determine what is moral

Typical gutless move. Next time, show some courage and ping me if you want to call me names.

BTW, when the unwashed masses want to take your guns away, don’t go crying about your rights.

Embrace the tyranny of "democracy" or add hypocrite to the gutless label you’ve earned.

[jmc813]

Libertarians aren't friends of democracy.

You are correct. They're friends of constitutional republicanism.

[The Red Zone]

This is a right to equal protection under law

This wasn't decided on equal protection grounds, chum.

and to be secure in their persons and houses.

News: even before the decision there was no sex police squad bugging people's bedrooms.

[OWK]

What are rights?

What are their extent?

Define them for me.

[HumanaeVitae]

A Constitutional Republic that was established by...voting. I believe the state legislatures had to ratify the Bill of Rights. Strange, but you libertarians trust the state legislatures to amend the Constitution, but not pass statutes.

[Stone Mountain]

Homosexuals do not want privacy, I live across the street from a pair that like to exibit their depravity to the neighborhood kids in front of their picture window.

Are you talking holding hands or anal sex here? There are laws against indecent expososure for both straight and gay people.

[jmc813]

Maybe the fact that we live in a democracy?

We don't live in a democracy.

[The Red Zone]

As is the opinion of anyone who isn't a slack-jawed parrot of the party line

Except, of course, for slack-jawed parrots of the OWK party line

[spunkets]

"Libertarians cause rust."

and pitting!

[tdadams]

Libertarians are cheering the usurpation of the legislative powers reserved to the states by an all-powerful federal governmental body.

Libertarians may be cheering, but not for the reasons you state. They are cheering the fact that the USSC has struck down a law that, in contravention of our Bill of Rights and respect for individual liberties, had nevertheless existed for too many years.

[88keys]

Is not a person's sexual behavior part of their life and is it not also a liberty and a "natural right" as defined by the term liberty?

In a word...no!

In a few more words, yes you can make a case for "liberty" and "natural rights" but I don't think you can extend this interpretation of "liberty" to define specific "Constitutional rights".

Perhaps the original Texas law is/was poorly written, badly enforced, or obsolete, but I still don't think the Supreme Court has any business issuing rulings on any sexual behaviour. In effect, they are re-writing state laws, aren't they? The problem is, they're setting that precedent, and there could (likely will) be all kinds of "unintended consequences" that go way beyond this one decision.

It actually occurs to me that this whole "neighbor with a grudge" story was a set-up, to start at the bottom (LOL!) and eventually get this case all the way to the Supreme Court...Rush is saying similar right now, not about my "conspiracy theory" but about "Supreme Court arbitration"...

[The Red Zone]

What are rights? What are their extent? Define them for me.

How about let's all see YOU do that.

[OWK]

Except, of course, for slack-jawed parrots of the OWK party line

I have a fan club?

Cool.

[Lazamataz]

and pitting!

In the water, Libertarians cause cavitation.

[IowaHawk]

I don't know if I really want to live in a country where the police aren't allowed to arrest people for doing all kinds of icky-poo things, right out in the middle of their own bedrooms and such.