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The Vast Dubya & DeLay Conspiracy
Rush Limbaugh ^ | June 30, 2003 | Rush Limbaugh

Posted on 06/30/2003 3:59:40 PM PDT by TLBSHOW

The Vast Dubya & DeLay Conspiracy

June 30, 2003

Depending on where you go and in what circles you travel, conservatives are livid with the Bush administration. Some, more so than others, are furious over the size of the federal budget, the failing to rein in any kind of spending, tax cuts for people who don't pay taxes, the Medicare prescription drug benefit, the list continues - and there’s a great deal of head scratching going on.

I came across an Associated Press story over the weekend that attempts to shed some light on what’s happening, which you can hear me read in the audio links below. However, the story seems to imply there’s a conspiracy between the White House and House Majority Leader Tom DeLay, R-Texas.

Here’s just one excerpt: “DeLay has become the most identifiable representative of the party's right wing, and the two Texans have had a sometimes scrappy relationship. Clashes may become more frequent as Bush moves beyond his current phase of fund raising among loyal Republicans and shifts his attention to the general electorate, analysts suggest. At the same time, Bush and his advisers are mindful that if they go too far, they could alienate conservatives whose support he needs. ‘Bush is carefully picking and choosing his fights,’ said GOP consultant Scott Reed. ‘There's a healthy back and forth between the White House staff and DeLay that is mutually beneficial to both.’”

The story continues to suggest that Bush is telling DeLay to go ahead and stop what he’s trying to do - on purpose. The idea being that Bush can thus claim credit for supporting whatever measure, while DeLay and other conservatives can point to victory for blocking its ultimate passage. A caller later asked: “Isn't this the same strategy that Bush used on campaign finance reform, only he is counting on the Supreme Court to shoot it down?” You can hear my answer below.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: bush; conservatives; conspiracy; delay
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To: MissAmericanPie
"Bush, whose first action after taking his hand off George Washington's bible and swearing to uphold the Constitution of the USofA. He flew to Mexico, embraced V. Fox and laid plans to dissolve our sovereign borders."

Why is it that Bush-bashers always get their facts mixed up, if they are even "facts" in the first place?

Consider:

"By Jamie York
On January 20, 2001, shortly after his inauguration, President George W. Bush broke his oath to uphold the U.S. Constitution when he declared that religion "will have an honored place in our plans and laws."
President Bush and his supporters are not interested in pluralism -- they want to create a Christian nation -- so it is no surprise that Bush's first act as president was to issue an executive order to stop federal funds to international health organizations that provide abortion services or counseling."

SOURCE: Leftist Screed Against Bush

121 posted on 06/30/2003 8:35:03 PM PDT by Southack (Media bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: MissAmericanPie
It was a stunner I couldn't believe slipped by the media.

As I said, you misinterpreted what he said.

Since it did, I assumed he didn't mean it.

Are you saying that since the media didn't pick up on it, Bush backed off?

122 posted on 06/30/2003 8:35:55 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Howlin
Here ya go dear heart. I knew I wasn't dreaming.

"Bush may not seek second term -- Associated Press Maybe he's just teasing, but W seems to be indicating that he hasn't decided whether to run again in 2004. "I'm doing everything I can to keep [my expectations] low," he said."

I can give you the link if you like.

123 posted on 06/30/2003 8:36:20 PM PDT by MissAmericanPie
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To: Miss Marple

OTOH, maybe Rush just scans the political horizon, puts 2+2 together and realizes: "Hey, Conservatives won't like the prescription drug benefit, or sending checks to people who don't pay taxes.. "

And then, viola!

Of course, if you wish to twist common sense & simple logic into some sort of grand conspiracy.. be my guest.

124 posted on 06/30/2003 8:36:21 PM PDT by Jhoffa_ (I am tired of voting AGAINST people.. Give me someone I can vote FOR.)
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To: habs4ever
I would say at this point in time

TLBSHOW is independent as in the party will have to earn my support as it is no longer a given. Bush wants to push left wing then no support. If he wants to push conservative ideals then he will have my support.

Bottom Line is this posters will not be bought off like the blind are.

125 posted on 06/30/2003 8:38:04 PM PDT by TLBSHOW (The Gift is to See the Truth)
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To: MissAmericanPie
I most certainly would like to read that in context.
127 posted on 06/30/2003 8:38:45 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: MissAmericanPie
I can give you the link if you like.

Thanks for the text. What was the date on that?

Bush is here to stay and then we'll get a Ford or a Dole.

128 posted on 06/30/2003 8:39:39 PM PDT by Fred Mertz
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To: Jhoffa_
There's a bunch of Freepers that are either idolaters or just, flat, need to be comitted.

There's a bunch of Bush haters that are either idolaters or just, flat, need to be comiteed. (sic)

129 posted on 06/30/2003 8:39:52 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: MissAmericanPie
Well we can put that "seems to be saying to bed" can't we? I think he's announced he's running......
130 posted on 06/30/2003 8:40:21 PM PDT by deport ( BUSH/CHENEY 2004...... with or without the showboy)
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To: Jhoffa_
The word is voila. Viola is a large fiddle.

I am sorry, but since I saw you post the other day that you didn't consider Bush a Christian, I have found your opinion to be a bit suspect. I think you dislike him so much that you will use any avenue to attack him.

131 posted on 06/30/2003 8:40:28 PM PDT by Miss Marple
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To: MissAmericanPie

Don't worry Dubya, so am I..

132 posted on 06/30/2003 8:40:54 PM PDT by Jhoffa_ (I am tired of voting AGAINST people.. Give me someone I can vote FOR.)
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To: Mo1
Makes sense to me


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was there any doubt that would be you're comment?
133 posted on 06/30/2003 8:41:10 PM PDT by TLBSHOW (The Gift is to See the Truth)
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To: Southack
Being against partial birth abortion has nothing to do with being a socialist. The Christian Socialist Party in Italy is against all abortion. France is a socialist country and partial birth abortion is illegal there.

A socialist is someone who promotes or believes in socialism. Socialism is a system where the state controls the capital and property. Hitler is the author of modern socialism. His national socialism differed from communism in that the state just controlled property, and capital rather than owning it. Both systems redistributed wealth from the productive to the society as a whole.

Bush didn’t arm pilots. Congress did over the objections of his appointees, Minetta and Ridge.

As for judges, Bush nominated Owen and Estrada but he also re-nominated all the Clinton judges who were unconfirmed when Clinton left office. He has yet to nominate a SC judge so we don’t know what he will do there.

Bush’s tax cuts were mostly offset by his two huge tax increases.

There is no chance in the world that Bush will privatize Social Security in the next 6 years. NONE.

The Bush/Kennedy school bill sets the stage for the feds to run the local schools. The testing provision is the foot in the door. Because tests are meaningless unless they are standardized, Bush and Kennedy will come back and create a standard test for all schools.

Once they do that, whoever writes the test will control what is taught in every local school in America. Vouchers will also allow the feds into free market schools. In order to get the money, the free market schools will have to teach the same thing the government schools teach and the kids will have to take the test Washington creates.

Bush did well on the Kyoto Treaty, International Criminal Court, the ABM Treaty, and he is talking a good game on Star Wars. Bush would make a good Secretary of State. His domestic policies are socialistic, big government, liberalism. They are certainly not conservative by any stretch of the term.

134 posted on 06/30/2003 8:41:35 PM PDT by SUSSA
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To: Miss Marple

I am well aware of this, thanks..

Regarding the rest of your post, believe me.. the feeling is mutual.

I get sick and tired of singing praises to the guy only to be dubbed a part of some plot when he screws up and does something stupid.

Either you people need professional help, or there's "conspiracies" everywhere.

I am going with the former.

135 posted on 06/30/2003 8:44:24 PM PDT by Jhoffa_ (I am tired of voting AGAINST people.. Give me someone I can vote FOR.)
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To: TLBSHOW
was there any doubt that would be you're comment?

You have a problem?

136 posted on 06/30/2003 8:44:46 PM PDT by Mo1
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To: SUSSA
"Bush’s tax cuts were mostly offset by his two huge tax increases."

That sort of rhetoric simply won't sway any but the most gullible loners.

137 posted on 06/30/2003 8:44:55 PM PDT by Southack (Media bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: TLBSHOW
So, you're meglomania makes you talk in the third person?

138 posted on 06/30/2003 8:45:24 PM PDT by habs4ever
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To: Mo1
Just telling it like it is..........
139 posted on 06/30/2003 8:45:55 PM PDT by TLBSHOW (The Gift is to See the Truth)
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To: Howlin
What?

Now, you think there's a giant conspiracy also?

Did you honestly think Conservatives were going to be happy about his high stakes pandering?

Is it "un-conservative" to not be as pissed at Dubya as you would have been at Clinton over this?

The bill is still going to come due, so what's the difference?

140 posted on 06/30/2003 8:47:11 PM PDT by Jhoffa_ (I am tired of voting AGAINST people.. Give me someone I can vote FOR.)
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