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The Vast Dubya & DeLay Conspiracy
Rush Limbaugh ^ | June 30, 2003 | Rush Limbaugh

Posted on 06/30/2003 3:59:40 PM PDT by TLBSHOW

The Vast Dubya & DeLay Conspiracy

June 30, 2003

Depending on where you go and in what circles you travel, conservatives are livid with the Bush administration. Some, more so than others, are furious over the size of the federal budget, the failing to rein in any kind of spending, tax cuts for people who don't pay taxes, the Medicare prescription drug benefit, the list continues - and there’s a great deal of head scratching going on.

I came across an Associated Press story over the weekend that attempts to shed some light on what’s happening, which you can hear me read in the audio links below. However, the story seems to imply there’s a conspiracy between the White House and House Majority Leader Tom DeLay, R-Texas.

Here’s just one excerpt: “DeLay has become the most identifiable representative of the party's right wing, and the two Texans have had a sometimes scrappy relationship. Clashes may become more frequent as Bush moves beyond his current phase of fund raising among loyal Republicans and shifts his attention to the general electorate, analysts suggest. At the same time, Bush and his advisers are mindful that if they go too far, they could alienate conservatives whose support he needs. ‘Bush is carefully picking and choosing his fights,’ said GOP consultant Scott Reed. ‘There's a healthy back and forth between the White House staff and DeLay that is mutually beneficial to both.’”

The story continues to suggest that Bush is telling DeLay to go ahead and stop what he’s trying to do - on purpose. The idea being that Bush can thus claim credit for supporting whatever measure, while DeLay and other conservatives can point to victory for blocking its ultimate passage. A caller later asked: “Isn't this the same strategy that Bush used on campaign finance reform, only he is counting on the Supreme Court to shoot it down?” You can hear my answer below.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: bush; conservatives; conspiracy; delay
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To: TexasCowboy
Soft money donations are not allowable thanks to CFR. Bush's money is coming from individual donors who can donate up to $2000. He has raised his money with lots of small donors.

I am sorry, but I don't think that people who loved the President suddenly turned against him because of prescription drugs or the farm subsidy. Try another line of attack, because that one isn't going to fly.

81 posted on 06/30/2003 8:11:19 PM PDT by Miss Marple
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To: Southack
Those things are all wonderful, but they look a little fuzzy through the unimpeded stampede of illegals pouring into the country.
82 posted on 06/30/2003 8:12:17 PM PDT by c-b 1
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To: Miss Marple
Having a huge base with open wallets doesn't make him conservative just popular. Kind of like JLo.
83 posted on 06/30/2003 8:12:34 PM PDT by redangus
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To: habs4ever
Bump!
84 posted on 06/30/2003 8:13:49 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: c-b 1
That's nice. Do you have a certain "anti-illegal" candidate in mind, or do you simply want to be divisive?
86 posted on 06/30/2003 8:14:34 PM PDT by Southack (Media bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Miss Marple
Try another line of attack, because that one isn't going to fly.

It ain't an attack, it's reality. Please take off you rose-colored glasses.

87 posted on 06/30/2003 8:15:26 PM PDT by Fred Mertz
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To: Miss Marple
Let us reason together Miss Marple...

Is this a conservative site? Says it is right...

Are conservatives upset with how Bush is turning out? You betcha!

So why would posters go to the du, it would seem republicans that have their lips to Bushs back side should open their eyes as to why conservatives are upset..

Because Bush fooled us all but GOOD!......

well some of us......

IMO

Its not the people trying to keep W to the fire that are the problem its those with their lips that are planted on Bushs backside that are the problem.
88 posted on 06/30/2003 8:15:35 PM PDT by TLBSHOW (The Gift is to See the Truth)
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To: Fred Mertz
C#60
89 posted on 06/30/2003 8:16:08 PM PDT by Southack (Media bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Howlin
"and they are NOT deserting him.

That's wishful thinking of your part."

Howlin, I'd be willing to bet I talk to as many people every day as you do, and most of those have never heard of FreeRepublic.

The base in Texas is crumbling, and most of it is due to the massive illegal immigrant problem we see everyday.
GW cannot win without the electoral vote of Texas, and that is not a sure thing now, no matter how much you wish it to be.

90 posted on 06/30/2003 8:17:59 PM PDT by TexasCowboy (COB1)
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To: Southack
One more time, for those among us who are "slow learners..."

From the commentary today on "Realclearpolitics.com" --

Despite the disagreements many of the narrowly-focused constituencies on the right have with President Bush, there seems to be an overall appreciation of his character, integrity, and his unwavering commitment to U.S. national security. There also seems to be an understanding that Bush, like Reagan, is helping to facilitate a continued shift toward conservatism in U.S. public opinion.

Today, many conservatives say, American public opinion is shifting their way, so there is no reason to be impatient — or to pressure Mr. Bush into doing things before the election that might hurt him next year.

"The Republicans are looking at decades of dominance in the House and the Senate, and having the presidency with some regularity," Mr. Norquist said. "So if this year the tax cut isn't the one we wanted — no biggie. There's a sense that we can afford to wait."

This tolerance of Bush only runs so deep, of course, and if the economy doesn't enjoy a robust recovery the President can't afford to have conservative groups sitting on their hands next November.

Meanwhile, the upside for conservative groups in the coming election is bigger than ever: if the economy does spring back to life and conservatives come out en masse for the President, it could produce a landslide victory and an historic mandate for Bush and his conservative agenda.

2 posted on 06/30/2003 7:26 PM EDT by My2Cents ("Well....there you go again.")

91 posted on 06/30/2003 8:18:15 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Sandy
That is too funny. LOL!
92 posted on 06/30/2003 8:18:19 PM PDT by Fred Mertz
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To: Miss Marple
You don't want a reason to support him. Go to DU and find a candidate to your liking.

I'll head over there right after you finish your kool-aid.

93 posted on 06/30/2003 8:18:24 PM PDT by c-b 1
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To: Southack
Nothing you listed can romance the sovereignty of the USofA from underneath me. Here are a few quotes from Bush, whose first action after taking his hand off George Washington's bible and swearing to uphold the Constitution of the USofA. He flew to Mexico, embraced V. Fox and laid plans to dissolve our sovereign borders.

"I want to see a "Free Trade Zone" from the north of Canada, to the tip of Cape Horn".

"If you only make 5 bucks an hour in Mexico and you can make 50 bucks an hour in Detroit, your going to come aren't you" (wink)

Explain to me what difference it makes, in a nation whose constitution is overrun by the votes of millions of marxist invaders, whether a liberal Republican party, or a liberal Democrat party is in charge of the destruction? What difference will Koyoto or any of it make then?

I'm a little more far sighted than to watch a magicians right hand while his left picks my pocket. This is the prize being fought for here, sovereignty. And I won't take my attention off of it debating spending and national debt.

I would advise everyone to look at how this "Free Trade Zone" is proposed to be set up. A committee of appointed, not elected over seers who settle disputes and decide which side wins. The disputs have already begun between Canada and the USofA over additives to gasoline, between the USofA and Mexcio over mexican trucking. I don't think it a smart move to place the outcome of such disputes in the hands of some entity with power over our constitution and sovereign best interests. Bush on the other hand has make it clear he loves the idea.
94 posted on 06/30/2003 8:19:17 PM PDT by MissAmericanPie
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To: TexasCowboy
Howlin, I'd be willing to bet I talk to as many people every day as you do, and most of those have never heard of FreeRepublic.

Exactly. Which is why a lot of people around here have such a slanted view of what is really going on.

I talk to Republicans AND Democrats who did not vote for Bush last time and they ARE going to vote for him in 2004.

And that says something to me: that he is the president of ALL the people, not just the "PPO conservatives."

95 posted on 06/30/2003 8:20:08 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Miss Marple
I'm not trying to develop this into a flame war.
I'm just stating my opinion, but I can flame if that's the way you want to discuss this.

How difficult do you think it is to channel money?
Corporations do it all the time.

Please do not call me a liar when I said that I loved this President. I supported him all the way in the war with Iraq and still do.
I just see some things that tells me he is not the Conservative he claimed to be. I can't turn a blind eye to that.

96 posted on 06/30/2003 8:22:57 PM PDT by TexasCowboy (COB1)
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To: Howlin
He said it during an interview the first few days after the election was settled. It shocked me to hear him say it. Doesn't anyone watch the news anymore? lol

In 2001, after all the rallies and the bitter fight for victory over the Democratic vote fraud machine, I was fired up for Bush and hanging on every word he said like it was gospel.
97 posted on 06/30/2003 8:24:15 PM PDT by MissAmericanPie
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To: MissAmericanPie
When did George W. Bush say he may not run again?
98 posted on 06/30/2003 8:24:32 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: TLBSHOW; Miss Marple
To: Miss Marple

You don't like mine try this one from DoughtyOne

(Vote RIPublican in 2004: Socialism's kinder gentler party: "We will leave no wallet left behind!")

19 posted on 06/30/2003 6:41 PM PDT by TLBSHOW (The Gift is to See the Truth)


You and I agree on a number of issues, but I do not agree with you taking my tagline and throwing it up to Miss Marple.

I am not ashamed of my tagline.  If I didn't believe what it said, I wouldn't use it.  However, Miss Marple and I had an exchange of views and I left her by wishing her to take care.  She was kind enough not to take issue with a tagline I imagine she finds highly objectionable.  Out of curtousy I would not have pushed the issue and I'm sorry you did.

Miss Marple, I appologize for that.



99 posted on 06/30/2003 8:25:05 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Vote RIPublican in 2004: Socialism's kinder gentler party: "We will leave no wallet left behind!")
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To: MissAmericanPie
I'm sure you misunderstood or misinterpreted what he said.

You're the only person I've ever seen even imply that.
100 posted on 06/30/2003 8:25:15 PM PDT by Howlin
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