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Guns Making Society Dangerous for Players [Sports Page Mega-Barf Alert!].
The Nashville Tennessean ^ | 07/03/03 | Joe Biddle

Posted on 07/06/2003 2:19:42 PM PDT by bourbon

Edited on 05/07/2004 9:20:25 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

Guns don't kill people. People kill people.

Can we all agree that it's more difficult to kill someone if neither party has a gun?

A Baylor basketball player is missing and feared dead. No body. No murder weapon. No answers. Yet.


(Excerpt) Read more at tennessean.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: Tennessee; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: bang; banglist; guncontrol; guns; utterfoolishness
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Memo to Sportswriters:
Please keep your dumb@$$ political opinions off my sports page.
1 posted on 07/06/2003 2:19:43 PM PDT by bourbon
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To: bourbon
McNair is the toughest man I know. Why would a 6-foot-2, 229-pound professional football player feel the need to carry a gun?

To protect himself against thugs with guns?

2 posted on 07/06/2003 2:22:07 PM PDT by zeromus
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To: bourbon
Ho, oh, I thought this was about PLAYAZ, NWA's, oH well.
3 posted on 07/06/2003 2:24:10 PM PDT by tet68
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To: bourbon
If the Left were really honest about this, instead of running a campaign of cynical emotional manipulation, they'd realize it's a lot harder to kill someone who also has a gun, but a lot easier to kill someone who is a lot weaker than you when they don't. Leftist motto - might makes right!
4 posted on 07/06/2003 2:24:46 PM PDT by thoughtomator (Abort, Retry, Ignore, Fail?)
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To: bourbon
Why would a 6-foot-2, 229-pound professional football player feel the need to carry a gun?

Gee, could it be that being a 6'2" 229-lb. muscle guy doesn't mean a whole lot when some nut is coming at him with a baseball bat or pointing a gun at his head?

5 posted on 07/06/2003 2:27:54 PM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (This space for rent, call 555-9388.)
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To: zeromus
Has the world we live in gotten that crazy?

Or has the world always been this crazy? Ty Cobb needed a police escort when playing away games in the early 1900s. And there were certainly plenty of guns around then. I bet many famous athletes from the past carried a piece from time to time.
6 posted on 07/06/2003 2:33:42 PM PDT by bourbon
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
Possibly the columnist should read More Guns, Less Crime. The point is that guns make it easier for bad things to happen, but they also make it easier for people to protect themselves and prevent bad things from happening. The columnist does seem to understand the second point at all.
7 posted on 07/06/2003 2:35:25 PM PDT by Washingtonian
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
I sometimes think when reading threads that I should just look up what you post and type in DITTO! :)
8 posted on 07/06/2003 2:36:29 PM PDT by Pan_Yans Wife (Lurking since 2000.)
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To: bourbon
We should be able to agree that we are dealing with a pair of vicious thugs who should never have been let near a college, much less given scholarships.

So9

9 posted on 07/06/2003 2:48:28 PM PDT by Servant of the Nine (Real Texicans; we're grizzled, we're grumpy and we're armed)
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To: bourbon
Anyone notice that this sportswriter isn't writing about the gals on the women's tennis and swim teams?

Does it surprise anyone that teams mainly recruited from slum culture keep acting it? O.J., anyone?

10 posted on 07/06/2003 2:48:59 PM PDT by DraftAshcroft2004
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To: bourbon
This man is an idiot. First he makes it sound like the big, tall basketballer bought a gun, which somehow, magically, killed him. Then the gun hid the big, tall, body and also itself! Then, he wonders why a big, strong, footballer needs a gun.

I don't know Mr. Biddle, maybe the footballer has a death-wish and hopes his gun will magically kill him, too.

Then again, maybe not.
11 posted on 07/06/2003 2:49:05 PM PDT by jocon307 (I swear this makes as much sense as what I just read.)
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To: bourbon
"Patrick Dennehy"

What will they say if it turns out he was strangled?

A colleague of mine, the day after the O.J. murders, stopped by to talk about the event. "It just shows how we need to control guns," he said.

"But...those people were killed with a knife!" I replied.

"Yes, but think how much easier it would have been for the murderer if he'd used a gun!"

This passes for 'logic' among the anti-gun nuts; they can turn anything into an "argument" for gun control.

--Boris

12 posted on 07/06/2003 2:52:15 PM PDT by boris (The deadliest Weapon of Mass Destruction in History is a Leftist With a Word Processor)
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To: bourbon
They all need to realize it only takes an armed person losing his temper for a split second to take a life.

People do kill people. If they have a gun, it makes it that much easier.

Sounds like a reason to arm yourself for self defence. - Tom

13 posted on 07/06/2003 2:56:24 PM PDT by Capt. Tom (anything done in moderation shows a lack of interest -Capt. Tom circa 1948)
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To: zeromus
Or how about that NYC bouncer who was fatally stabbed when he tried to enforce NY City's new no smoking ordinance? He was physically bigger than McNair. A knife killed the bouncer and the assailant was two "little" oriental guys. Size is important, but a lot less so when the other guy is armed, with anything, and all you have is your bare hands.
14 posted on 07/06/2003 3:10:18 PM PDT by Tahoe3002
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To: bourbon
So much ignorance--so little time....
15 posted on 07/06/2003 3:27:24 PM PDT by basil
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To: bourbon; *bang_list
Memo to Sportswriters:
Please keep your dumb@$$ political opinions off my sports page.

Man. No kidding !!


16 posted on 07/06/2003 3:49:21 PM PDT by MeekOneGOP (Bu-bye Dixie Chimps! / Coming Soon !: Freeper site on Comcast. Found the URL. Gotta fix it now.)
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To: bourbon
I don't watch spectator sports.

I do compete in the shooting sports such as IDPA and High Power Rifle. Every participant is expected to have, you guessed it, a gun.

No one has ever murdered or shot another participant on purpose in the entire history of the shooting sports.
17 posted on 07/06/2003 4:40:01 PM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (Don't punch holes in the lifeboat)
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To: Capt. Tom
We in Nashville have learned that the "Tennessean" newspaper has little interest in logic when an agenda must be put forth. Why is this sports writer editorializing? Because his editor told him to.
Can't wait for upcoming developments like leftist obituaries and politically correct yard sale announcements.
18 posted on 07/06/2003 5:18:03 PM PDT by NewRomeTacitus (All the bias that's print to fit.)
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To: Shooter 2.5
Exactly. In the past, kids in many parts of America used to take their .22s to school where they would learn marksmanship. Rarely, if ever, did they go off the deep end and turn their guns on their fellow students.

The argument that the large number of guns in the country correlates to an elevated murder rate is positively ridiculous. America has always been saturated with guns.

What has changed? Why do people use them more often for nefarious purposes today? Wise folks look to the culture and other factors for the answer. Not to the guns themselves.
19 posted on 07/06/2003 5:47:06 PM PDT by bourbon
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To: jocon307; boris
This man is an idiot. First he makes it sound like the big, tall basketballer bought a gun, which somehow, magically, killed him.

You are wrong. (well, not about the idiot part) He admits we don't know how Dennehy died (if he is indeed dead)

When he says It has been reported that Dennehy was worried about his safety, having received unconfirmed threats from someone. He and his roommate, Carlton Dotson, reportedly purchased a shotgun and hoped to trade it in for a couple of handguns. he is just pointing out that Sarah Brady is correct, if you buy a gun that in some magical fashion makes you more liable to become a victim of crime.

20 posted on 07/06/2003 5:47:40 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy (I'm sorry but I never apologise and never explain)
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