Locked In Hot Car, 2 Young Boys Die; Woman [Foster Mother] Arrested in Deaths

Associated Press via CBSNews.com & Atlanta Journal-Constitution ^ | July 9, 2003

[luckystarmom]

We have a hybrid, and a kid would die in it if they were left in it for 5 hours.

It really doesn't matter what kind of car it is.

(By the way, hubby and I are die-hard republicans and my husband loves the hybrid because of the cool technology and the way it drives. He likes that it's better for the environment, but wouldn't drive it if he had to make any sacrifices on convenience.)

[luckystarmom]

One reason to get a hyrid is that you have a long commute, and they drive great! They handle much nicer than similar non-hybrid vehicles, and they are extremely quiet.

Unless you have test driven one, I wouldn't make a comparison.

My husband loves his much better than his old Mazda RX-7 sports car or his Ford Explorer.

[steplock]

Did you realize that lawyers WERE illegal by the Constitution of the United States? but it was changed?

The bar is totally illegal becasue by it's own laws and procedures, it bears no loyalty to the United States of America.

But then, LAWYERS make the laws, interpret the laws, and enforce the laws.

I guess there is only ONE way to change the laws then....... ??

[Walnut]

I wonder why they were put in foster homes in the first place. Were they in danger of being neglected?

[Walnut]

the way they pass out prozac I wouldn't doubt. I can't believe it. The case where the husband left the child in the car because he wasn/t used to the routine was bad enough but two? How do you leave two children even for a minute in that heat. (that may have been a woman who left the child to die while she worked all day. forgetting to bring the baby to day care. )Either way Its a hell of a shame to put it mildy also what was the reason for the foster parents in the first place. maybe they should have been left where they were. they would probubly still be alive.

[Pan_Yans Wife]

Here where I live, many children are placed with immediate family members. That sounds like a solution, but it often isn't. Quite frequently the children are no safer with an aunt or uncle, if they are moved. Children's services needs to be overhauled in much of the country.

[Walnut]

I agree l00% The left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing in most cases. I have so many reservations about the system its not even funny. In the mean time the kids will keep on suffering until they get it together. I think if they didn't pay the foster parents instead makeing it a rule that if they want children then they have to be able to afford them then only the people who really want to have children to love and rescue would get them. or provide food vouchers and clothes vouchers no rent or mortgage money . If they are on the level they don't need incentives. even the poorest of families get along fine without abuse.
I'm steady thinking of a solution. It has to be of the heart not of the pocketbook and believe me I have talked to foster parents who are in it for the money (They were) they are no longer foster parents. That was 50 years ago or so . It just goes to show you the problem has been here for a very ling time.

[pnz1]

http://www.wsmv.com/Global/story.asp?S=1354291&nav=1TcRGocM

A one year old died in a van in Nashville today, too.

[Pan_Yans Wife]

Just damn.

[AnnaZ]

Smoot told investigators she discovered the boys in their car seats when she returned in the afternoon and pulled them from the vehicle.

The Slimes' article had this:

 

She returned to the car five hours later and discovered the bodies on the floor, he said. The older boy apparently had unstrapped the younger one from his car seat.

And when I read that I cried for a good ten minutes.

[Walnut]

God help those poor poor children. How did the mother not miss the child all day? Am I missing something here? Now heres a mother leaving the child. Now I'm at a loss as to what to do. If this mother left the child in the car all day and went on the trip she should be arrested. no doubt about it.. She was responsible for the child getting inside . You need to carry out the full act of bringing your child or the child that is in your charge to the point of saftey. from your home to the INSIDE of the day care centers.

[Henrietta]

"The bar is totally illegal becasue by it's own laws and procedures, it bears no loyalty to the United States of America."

Oh, right...that must be why, when I was sworn into the bar, I was required to take an oath to uphold the laws and the Constitution of the United States of America, and of the State of Oregon.

You sound like you lost your tinfoil hat, pal.

[Lijahsbubbe]

My grandson is four and rides a two wheeler w/o training wheels! The little stinkpot!

[GATOR NAVY]

I think this is inappropriate for this post.

[Alouette]

It looks like the Viking Kittens have come to this thread and swept up all the kookiekrumbs. I have not seen such a thorough ZOT in a long time. Usually the X-treme ZOTZAPALOOZA is a maneuver reserved for recidivists from Stormfront, DU and Voz de Atzlan.

Hmmmm....gotta double my donation this quarter.

You go Admin Mods!

[cspackler]

Thanks for the reminder. She was charged, but never went to a jury. I believe that the prosecution agreed to a bench trial as opposed to a jury trial. Never really figured that one out.

[Lijahsbubbe]

I'm sure it won't be long before all vehicles will have to be equipped with a device that detects motion inside the vehicle after it's shut off for a certain amount of time.

[Rodney King]

Did you realize that lawyers WERE illegal by the Constitution of the United States? but it was changed?

That's a load of crap.

[steplock]

When someone passes the Bar exam and is admitted to the Bar to practice law in a State, they become an Officer of the Court. This makes them part of the Judicial branch of government. If they then run for public office and are elected to the legislature or to an executive office, it means that they simultaneously serve in two branches of government. This violates the principle of the Separation of Powers.


Now -what's a load of BS ?? Besides lawyers, of course...

[newgeezer]

They handle much nicer than similar non-hybrid vehicles

According to the Car and Driver Road Test, one of the Honda Insight's "lows" was its "Humpty Dumpty handling."

Of the 11 categories polled, the Toyota Prius received its lowest User's Road Tests ratings for its handling.

Add a few hundred pounds to a compact Japanese car and -- especially if fuel efficiency is key -- handling must be compromised.