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Sex in nursing homes
The Kentucky Post ^ | 12 July 2003 | Post staff report

Posted on 07/12/2003 1:13:48 PM PDT by demlosers

When a 72-year-old grandmother and a 68-year-old man started holding hands at a Westwood nursing home, staff members thought it was cute. But when the unmarried couple announced they wanted to have sex, staffers were stunned.

"We thought, 'No way,' " said Sara Gramann, director of nursing at the home at the time. "Then we realized we would be violating their rights."

After checking with adult protective services, state officials, social workers and ombudsmen, nursing home officials briefed the couple on safe sex practices, gave them condoms and the use of a private room.

"The woman's children were irate and threatened to sue us because they didn't picture their mom having sex while she had grandkids running around the nursing home," said Gramann.

"It was quite an issue. Sexuality in any health care setting is just not talked about."

While nursing homes give elderly and sick people help ranging from medical care to personal hygiene to genial companionship -- sex is generally ignored.

"The whole subject is taboo," said Dr. Duncan MacLean, the medical director of Delaware's state-operated system of nursing homes who's studied the complicated issue. "Most nursing homes sweep it under the rug.

"However, sex is a fact of life in nursing homes that should not be ignored."

Nick Folchi, 85, of Erlanger, is wary of bringing up sex in a nursing home, even though it's on his mind.

Folchi, who lives in his own home, says he would like to have sex with his wife, Mary, 83, who resides in an Erlanger nursing home, but is afraid to ask staffers for the assistance it would require.

"My wife is paralyzed on one side and I have a bad back, so I would need somebody to put her in bed for me," he said. "But I wouldn't dare discuss it with the nursing home.

"Mary is there on Medicaid and they're cutting out a lot of Medicaid. If I came up with a proposition like that, Medicaid might say if you're well enough to have sex, you're well enough to live at home."

Sex, it turns out, is not a welcome topic at many nursing homes.

Sex in nursing homes will be impossible to ignore in a few years, predicted Dr. John Morley of St. Louis University, a geriatrics expert.

"We're going to see an explosion in the issue," he said. "You've got a lot of Baby Boomers like me coming along who are not going to be happy in nursing homes if we can't continue doing what we've been doing. Plus, we've got Viagra."

Baby Boomers, 78 million Americans born in the post-World War II population explosion from 1946 through 1966, now range in age from 37 to 57 years old and are expected to begin swelling nursing home populations in a few years.

Today, about 2 million Americans live in nursing homes. In 2030, when Baby Boomers will range in age from 64 to 84, U.S. nursing home population is expected to skyrocket to 5 million, according to estimates by the Mayo Clinic in Rochester, Minn.

Many Baby Boomers came of age during an era of sexual liberation in the 1960s and 1970s and the advent five years ago of Viagra, the popular drug already used by 16 million men to remedy erectile dysfunction (impotence), will help Baby Boomers continue to have sex as they grow older.

Viagra's effectiveness is not affected by age, said Daniel Watts, a spokesman for Viagra-manufacturer Pfizer.

"It works well in elderly patients," he said. "In clinical trials of men aged 65 and over, 92 percent showed improvement in achieving erection with Viagra."

Right now, though, nursing home staffers are reluctant to get involved in the sexuality of residents, said Morley.

"I'm sure I would get killed by everybody working in a nursing home if I prescribed Viagra for a resident," he said. "I don't think any nursing home employee wants to deal with sex among patients."

MacLean noted that one study of nursing homes found that two-thirds of staff members considered resident sexuality as unimportant to address.

Local nursing home administrators also downplay sex.

"There are no torrid sex scenes going on," said Barry Bortz, chief executive officer of Care Spring, which operates several nursing homes in Northern Kentucky and Cincinnati.

"I wouldn't be surprised if sex occurred, but I can't remember a specific incident where it happened among residents.

"Sex is still there, but sex becomes a different thing with them -- holding hands, caressing each other, combing each other's hair. It's a much more innocent process than you might think."

John Hutcherson, administrator of Baptist Convalescent Center in Newport, said he assumes sex has occurred among residents, but said it has never posed a problem.

"There really isn't much sex talk here," he said. "The focus of residents is really elsewhere. Their focus is more on food."

At Hillebrand Nursing Center in Bridgetown, "sex has never been an issue," said the administrator, Richard Kidd.

"I don't think it (sex among residents) happens," he said. "The staff would know if individuals were going into a room together and closing the door."

Sex at some nursing homes is so private that not even other residents realize it's going on.

Beverly Clay of Fort Mitchell, a resident of Highlands of Fort Thomas Health Care Center and Rehabilitation, said she was "somewhat surprised" to learn from a staffer that sexual relations there had occasionally been privately accommodated.

"I just assumed it didn't happen here," she said. "Sex is a topic that has not come up here and that does surprise me some. I'm sure some residents think about sex, but they don't talk about it."

Clay noted that while she hasn't discussed sex with anyone, "I still have a desire. If I get a need, I'll read or play music. I have a belief that you do not have sex unless you're married.

"But, I'm not going to say I wouldn't like to see some nice-looking gentleman come in here."

Some nursing homes are operated by religious groups that might have opposition.

"Even in non-sectarian nursing homes, many staff members see their work as religiously motivated," noted MacLean. "These staff and facilities may approach sexual issues from the standpoint of moral teachings of their faith or from a general ethical perspective."

Pam Pangburn, the Northern Kentucky long-term care ombudsman and advocate for nursing home patients, said she has received no comments from residents about sexual matters.

"It's not an issue around here," she said. "If it is an issue, it's not been brought to my attention."

It is a big issue in some European nursing homes, where administrators have liberal sexual policies.

In the Netherlands, many nursing homes allow residents to bring in prostitutes, according to Dr. Peter Gott, who writes a syndicated newspaper column about health.

Gott lamented that "sex is a no-no in American nursing homes," but he advocated getting rid of the "misperception that sex after middle age is 'dirty' and somehow unnatural."

"If we did," he said, "American nursing homes might become far more responsive to the wishes of their residents, who should be entitled to the same privileges enjoyed by younger, non-institutionalized adults."

Although sex drives may diminish with age or illness, they don't disappear, as studies cited by MacLean show.

A study of healthy people aged from 80 to 102 found that 88 percent of men fantasized about sex, 66 percent had coitus and 72 percent used self-stimulation, while 72 percent of women fantasized about sex, 38 percent had coitus and 40 percent used self-stimulation.

Another study of nursing home residents found that sexual interest continued despite considerable barriers, including no available partner, lack of privacy and poor health.

While there are no laws against consensual sex among mentally competent nursing home residents, most nursing homes have no policies on how to assess its appropriateness or accommodate it.

"It's the age thing," said Morley. "As a society, we think that as people get older, they should give up sex. Unless you're Hugh Hefner.

"Another problem is the children of nursing home patients. Children often find it unacceptable for a parent to be having sex in a nursing home."

That's the wrong attitude, says Dr. Margo Tallmer, a New York City expert on geriatrics.

She said sexual activity among mentally competent nursing home residents should be encouraged because it "enhances life, gives pleasure and alleviates depression."

That view is shared by John Sammons, Kentucky's chief long-term care ombudsman.

"Sex is very natural, it is healthy, it is good for our lifestyle and residents of nursing homes have sexual needs and desires just like other individuals," he said.

In one instance, Sammons said, two residents had fallen in love and gotten married.

"The nursing home operator tried at first to accommodate the married couple, but perceived there were problems, when in fact there wasn't any more difficulty than ordinarily occurs with married couples," said Sammons.

"The local ombudsman talked with the residents and helped them move to another facility where they were able to stay in the same room. It turned out very well."

Federal law doesn't address sex in nursing homes, other than to require facilities to allow spouses to share a room if they wish, contingent on room availability and financial affordability.

However, MacLean points out that numerous Supreme Court decisions recognize a Constitutional right to privacy, including sexual rights.

Kentucky and Ohio government agencies that oversee nursing homes don't regulate sex among patients.

"Basically, the view is that nursing homes are the homes of these people and if they are consenting adults, then that is the way they are treated," said Gil Lawson of the Kentucky Cabinet for Health Services.

"They have just as much right to do what they want to do as anyone else does."

Michelle LoParo of the Ohio Department of Health said sex is a "residential right. Nursing home residents are allowed free choice, just like any other resident of the state."

Not quite.

"A lot of issues could play into sex among nursing home patients," LoParo added. "Many are Alzheimer's patients. You have to look at their cognitive ability. You have to check into their health and other issues that might come into play.

"The aging population might have aggressive behavior. Safety must be taken into consideration."

MacLean has circulated a proposal for discussion among 8,000 members of the American Medical Directors Association, but MacLean said very few nursing homes follow his policy or, for that matter, any policy.

At the Baptist Convalescent Center in Newport, for instance, there is no written policy on sex, Hutcherson said.

"It would be handled on a case by case basis," he said. "If residents said they wanted to have sex, I would need to bring together the appropriate people to discuss it and work out the best course of action."

MacLean said he hopes his proposed policy will "open a few doors" on the issue.


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To: demlosers
Having just spent the day with my Grandmother at her assited living home, this topic strikes me as particularly surreal. Didn't look like there was much action—real OR potential—going on there!
51 posted on 07/12/2003 3:58:14 PM PDT by avenir
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To: Conservababe
I believe the article said that the husband needed help getting into his wife's bed. I don't believe that anyone was invited to watch them have sex.

The writer drew some marvelous pictures here, weren't you watching?

52 posted on 07/12/2003 3:59:04 PM PDT by Old Professer
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To: wingnuts'nbolts
it doesn't shock me, but it does take me by surprise, i guess because i never thought of it before. everything you said makes sense. i feel bad for them and think that they should be accomodated, the poor old guy just wants to be with his wife. the fact that he still wants to be with her despite her being partially paralyzed , i find very touching.
53 posted on 07/12/2003 4:04:25 PM PDT by xsmommy
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To: Old Professer
The writer drew some marvelous pictures here, weren't you watching?

No, I did not. I think you are the voyeur.

54 posted on 07/12/2003 4:04:31 PM PDT by Conservababe
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To: chris1
No Comment. This story is sickening. Tothink that the nurses and staff would be helping the paralyzed patients have sex is a but one more example of good resources being utilized for bad purposes.

I've made some absolutely stupid remarks in my time.........but I have never made such an asshole remark as this.

55 posted on 07/12/2003 4:09:26 PM PDT by Focault's Pendulum (Successfully surviving on a single digit income without gub'mint assistance.)
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To: demlosers
I worked for years in two different nursing homes...and we were always given an introductory talk about how to handle residents who we might find engaged in sex, or how to approach the subject...

All states have their own guidelines, as to what they do and dont allow in their nursing homes...here in Washington state, the residents have a very wide range of rights...for instance, residents are allowed to have a couple supervised 'alcoholic' drinks, if they want it, and if their doctor oks it, that it wont interfere with any medicine....they arent allowed to get drunk, but a couple of beers, or a couple of wine coolers, was often the regular thing with some of our residents...the drinks are bought either by the residents family, or the nursing home takes the funds out of the residents account, and buys the stuff for them....its then kept in a locked fridge, in a locked cupboard in the nurses station....

Residents are also allowed to smoke...not whenever and wherever they want, but at designated times, and in designated smoking areas, with either nurses or aides in attendance for safety sake...

And the same goes for sex...and I dont understand this article saying that nursing homes dont even discuss this...that may be the norm, at least according to this article, but in the two nursing homes I worked at, we had full lectures on this very subject...

What they said was this...competent residents of the nursing homes , have the right to have sex...often we had both partners in a marriage sharing a room, often it was just one partner, with the other partner living outside the nursing home...we were never embarrassed to discuss sex with our residents, nor their spouses, and frankly, it seems to me, that all those acting all goofy over this, need to grow up a little bit...does one really think that the sex drive disappears with age?...it does not, and with couples that have always had a healthy sex life before illness or age crept in, often still try to continue to have some sort of a sex life even into those senior years...I dont understand why anyone thinks there is something awful or nasty about it...

I will agree with a previous poster, who added the even the best of nursing homes can be abysmal at times...way too many residents are dumped there by their families, and the family rarely visits...loneliness, unhappiness, depression, and great sorrow at being left behind, are found all too often in nursing homes...

If a married couple, because of circumstances, find that one spouse needs the help of nursing home, while the other is able to remain outside the nursing home, and they want to have a sexual relationship, how grand for them, that they still do love each enough to want that intimacy...

And heres what else all workers in the nursing home were instructed about, and I suppose there are those who are going to go off the deep end on this one...they also discussed the subject of masturbation...if we go into a room, ,and the elderly resident is masturbating, we are not to reprimand them, and stop them, and treat them as if they are naughty little children...we are simply to draw their bedside curtain around them, close the door, and check back on them every 15 minutes, or so, just to make sure that they are safe....

The whole point of this is as follows...some of these seniors residents of the nursing home, may be ill, but many are not....they are simply old, unable to care for themselves, need help in their daily activities, such as washing, dressing, toileting, etc...and they need someone to cook their meals, and keep the place clean....they are not ill, to the extent that they need to be in a hospital...when they go to a nursing home, that nursing home, becomes their home, and they have many rights in that home, as they would in their own home...

As I said, each state sets its own standard of what they will or will not allow their residents to do...and not all those residents are getting financial assistance....in the last nursing home I worked in, more than 70 percent of the residents were private pay, and they were paying a good deal of money....they were not on the dole...eventually tho, most private pay residents, if they live long enough, do have to have some sort of financial assistance...But whether private pay, or on the dole, if they want to smoke, drink, have sex, or masturbate, and all within reason, supervised, and approved of by their doctor, I hardly see what is so awful, or icky or bad about that...Goodness knows, eventually all of us, if we are lucky, will become senior citizens...should it happen that we need a nursing home, hopefully we will get one, that respects the rights of the elderly...

Another way to solve the problem, is for fewer people to be putting their senior relatives into nursing homes...I have seen way too many seniors, dumped into nursing homes, and left there and forgotten...seniors who could with a little assistance, still be able to live at home...trouble is, the family does not want to take care of them...they dont want to be bothered...and that is truly the really sad story....
56 posted on 07/12/2003 4:10:15 PM PDT by andysandmikesmom
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To: demlosers
"There really isn't much sex talk here," he said. "The focus of residents is really elsewhere. Their focus is more on food."


The talk is usually of their last meal and their next bowel movement!!
57 posted on 07/12/2003 4:12:17 PM PDT by Betteboop
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To: avenir
Having just spent the day with my Grandmother at her assited living home, this topic strikes me as particularly surreal. Didn't look like there was much action—real OR potential—going on there!

Well, maybe Strom Thurmond did not answer her love letters.

I am laughing so hard at youthful naivte, really.

58 posted on 07/12/2003 4:12:19 PM PDT by Conservababe
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To: demlosers
WE LOVE TO EAT AT 4:30PM !!!!!

WE LOVE TO EAT AT 4:30PM !!!!!


59 posted on 07/12/2003 4:13:46 PM PDT by cmsgop (Has anyone seen my Schwab ?)
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To: demlosers
KENTUCKY!!! Must be something in the water. I lived in Lexington many years ago. They had just completed a high rise for elderly folks. From people I knew who worked and lived there it was a lively place. Really, why not?
60 posted on 07/12/2003 4:21:43 PM PDT by OldEagle (Haven't been wrong since 1947.)
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To: andysandmikesmom
If a married couple, because of circumstances, find that one spouse needs the help of nursing home, while the other is able to remain outside the nursing home, and they want to have a sexual relationship, how grand for them, that they still do love each enough to want that intimacy...

An excellent and informative post, but with one omission.

Even unmarried couples or those with living spouses do have the right to have sex with anyone, as others do outside of nursing homes.

Another poster said, states vary in the law. This is incorrect. Federal law says that persons in a nursing homes are residents with full rights as if they lived in their own homes.

61 posted on 07/12/2003 4:26:18 PM PDT by Conservababe
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To: Conservababe
You are of course correct about mentally competent seniors, being able to have sex with whoever they chose, regardless of whether or not they are married to each other...

It does become a bit problematic tho, especially with Alzheimers patients...we need to make sure that they actually do understand what it is that they are doing...we do seem to assume that if they are having sex with their spouses, that this is more comfortable and familiar to them...having sex with another resident, and at least one of them having Alzheimers, is something that I have never encountered...and many Alzheimers residents, may not realize what they are doing, or with whom...

The Alzheimers residents do have the right to have sex, but they also need to be protected, if they are being taken advantage of, and are unable to articulate this, or unable to express this...

Having worked only in Washington State nursing homes, I just thought that what I experienced was regulated by the state...I did not realize that it was the Federal law which stated that persons in nursing homes are residents with full rights as if they lived in their own homes...good information...
62 posted on 07/12/2003 4:37:30 PM PDT by andysandmikesmom
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To: Cedric
If combing each other's hair is sex, then I'm impotent. Bbbbald to the bbbbone!
63 posted on 07/12/2003 4:41:43 PM PDT by breakem
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To: breakem
Read reply #50 for a frightening warning of things to come, assumdely, from a tubby {but horny} geezer}!
64 posted on 07/12/2003 4:52:34 PM PDT by Cedric
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To: Cedric
Sweei sentiment, brought a tear to my eye.

Went with some friends on their move to Washington. We picked his dad up twice for dinner from his seniors home. 4 guys and 33 women. What a world.

65 posted on 07/12/2003 4:55:29 PM PDT by breakem
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To: breakem
sweei = sweet
66 posted on 07/12/2003 4:55:54 PM PDT by breakem
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To: patton; sit-rep; wardaddy; TEXASPROUD
ROTFLMAO..........Hold gramma's teeth alert !........Stay Safe !
67 posted on 07/12/2003 4:56:36 PM PDT by Squantos (Cum catapultae proscriptae erunt tum soli proscript catapultas habebunt.)
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To: Squantos
"It would be handled on a case by case basis," he said. "If residents said they wanted to have sex, I would need to bring together the appropriate people to discuss it and work out the best course of action."

Uh, a committee?

68 posted on 07/12/2003 5:05:13 PM PDT by patton (I wish we could all look at the evil of abortion with the pure, honest heart of a child.)
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To: patton
I thought a different course of action was still illegal in most states ?

This reminds me of the episode of Night Court when they busted the old babe who was trading sex for pudding cups.......Dan Fielding BTTT !!

Stay Safe Patton !.......BTW....why the heck ain't you out on that boat ?

69 posted on 07/12/2003 5:09:03 PM PDT by Squantos (Cum catapultae proscriptae erunt tum soli proscript catapultas habebunt.)
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To: Norse
" And I never said that there is anything wrong with old, wrinkly people having sex. I just don't want to hear, think about it-------"

Then why did you bother to read and respond to this post?

Years ago, I read of an epitaph on someones tombstone. It went something like this ---
"As you are now, so once was I.
As you see me, you soon will be."

Think about it.

70 posted on 07/12/2003 5:29:19 PM PDT by Exit148 ($45,89 from the Loose Change Club for the current Freepathon. Only $3.83/week.)
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To: Physicist
What makes this a bad purpose again?

Something tells me that the answer you'll get to this question will be a huge wad of scripture. Or perhaps, for extra rhetorical cogency, just a JPG of a Bible.

71 posted on 07/12/2003 5:32:01 PM PDT by BlazingArizona
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To: Old Professer
For the most part, sex is a selfish act.

Then you're not doing it right.

72 posted on 07/12/2003 5:37:57 PM PDT by BlazingArizona
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To: BlazingArizona
"Something tells me that the answer you'll get to this question will be a huge wad of scripture. Or perhaps, for extra rhetorical cogency, just a JPG of a Bible."

Why let the Bible stand in the way of getting a little?
73 posted on 07/12/2003 5:38:00 PM PDT by Cedric
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To: demlosers
"-------nursing home officials briefed the couple on safe sex practices ------"

That made me laugh! These wonderful Geezers and Geezerettes could probably tell the officials a thing or two.

Comics would have a field day with the phrase "dirty old man", but, I'm delighted, and think it's wonderful that these people have sex on their minds.

As an aside, I'm amazed how many pop-ups have popped up, about nursing homes and Viagra, since I've been reading this thread!!

74 posted on 07/12/2003 5:38:42 PM PDT by Exit148 ($45,89 from the Loose Change Club for the current Freepathon. Only $3.83/week.)
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To: demlosers
No pictures. Please. I beg you.....
75 posted on 07/12/2003 5:41:06 PM PDT by Chancellor Palpatine (the preview button is my friend...the preview button is my friend...the preview button is my friend.)
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To: breakem
Went with some friends on their move to Washington. We picked his dad up twice for dinner from his seniors home. 4 guys and 33 women. What a world.

Yes, this is the world of the elderly. Too few men and too many women. LOL

I have a friend who opened up a senior community gathering place. He soon got frustrated with the whole ordeal.

As soon as enough men had joined the memembership, the ladies started demanding that he shut out other women.

Believe me, these women were not interested in companionship of other women. They wanted the attentions of the men....and not for bingo partners.

If persons think the elderly forget their sexuality, then those persons have not had any to begin with, methinks.

LOL

76 posted on 07/12/2003 6:01:11 PM PDT by Conservababe
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To: Conservababe
amen
77 posted on 07/12/2003 6:03:41 PM PDT by breakem
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To: Exit148
Years ago, I read a message on a condom package. It went something like this...

"Young men use this for what must seem
To geezers just a distant dream."

Don't even think about it.
78 posted on 07/12/2003 6:16:29 PM PDT by Cedric
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To: xsmommy
Yes, it is touching. He still loves her and wants to hold her. At least that's what I'd like to think. I don't know why people think that we change as we age, you don't, you know. If I meet a nasty old person I know they were nasty when they were young. If a person was not a touchy feely kind of girl or guy high touch in old age may not be interesting, but for many physically demonstative folks it still is, wouldn't you think? I don't think I will outlive my need to be hugged and loved. I sure hope not!
79 posted on 07/12/2003 6:20:19 PM PDT by wingnuts'nbolts
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To: DannyTN
LOL! The kickstand effect!

The ol' morning missile, Wakin up with a chubbie, pitching a tent,
80 posted on 07/12/2003 6:24:57 PM PDT by ovrtaxt
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To: Cedric
Years ago, I read a message on a condom package. It went something like this... "Young men use this for what must seem To geezers just a distant dream."

Geezers use it because they are not young men with only wet dreams.

81 posted on 07/12/2003 6:29:01 PM PDT by Conservababe
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To: kms61
Should you be fortunate enough to reach that age I suspect you won't find the thought so horrifying.

I'm sure your urges get the better of you and sounds like a good idea. But then you've got to see your partner naked.

Some of the posts on this thread are beyond belief.

Everybody's just making wisecracks, relax.

82 posted on 07/12/2003 7:04:19 PM PDT by MattAMiller (Down with the Mullahs! Peace, freedom, and prosperity for Iran.)
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To: Conservababe
Weak. And it doesn't even rhyme.
83 posted on 07/12/2003 7:04:27 PM PDT by Cedric
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To: Conservababe
Correction, plenty of seniors have wet dreams. But, fortunately now we have Depends!

Sincerely,
June Allison
84 posted on 07/12/2003 7:09:57 PM PDT by Cedric
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To: breakem
Went with some friends on their move to Washington. We picked his dad up twice for dinner from his seniors home. 4 guys and 33 women. What a world.

And they can all take their teeth out.

85 posted on 07/12/2003 7:18:25 PM PDT by MattAMiller (Down with the Mullahs! Peace, freedom, and prosperity for Iran.)
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To: demlosers
You know, with all the aging baby boomers ladies who've had breast enhancements and aging baby boomer men taking Viagra, when they all get old together there will be geriatric couples with both big boobs and big erections -- but with the onset of Alheimer's, they just won't know what to do with them.

Just a thought...

86 posted on 07/12/2003 7:22:50 PM PDT by ReaganCowboy
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To: demlosers
I've been in a few of the Northern Kentucky nursing homes. This sheds a whole new light on the residents that live there. All I can say is, I hope they are happy.
87 posted on 07/12/2003 7:24:42 PM PDT by Pan_Yans Wife (Lurking since 2000.)
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To: chris1
I disagree. Geez..they keep you alive and then they don't let you have ANY fun.
88 posted on 07/12/2003 7:25:23 PM PDT by Hildy
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To: Exit148
I guess the key is to enjoy youth...especially since it doesn't last long...
89 posted on 07/12/2003 7:43:11 PM PDT by Norse
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To: Norse
"I guess the key is to enjoy youth...especially since it doesn't last long..."

You've got it!!

I don't know what age I'd like to be. Not the teens, certainly. I used to think 29 was the ideal age, but I have second thoughts on that one. Maybe a healthy, wealthy 40+?

George Bernard Shaw said "Youth is wasted on the young". Does he have something there? I remember as a kid, people would say "If only I knew then, what I know now." or "If I could be that age, but have the know-how that I have now."

Whatever age -- make the most of it and enjoy it, and keep on enjoying it right into old age --sex and all!

90 posted on 07/12/2003 8:08:24 PM PDT by Exit148 ($45,89 from the Loose Change Club for the current Freepathon. Only $3.83/week.)
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To: MattAMiller
now, cut that out. What's next? Short with a flat head.
91 posted on 07/12/2003 8:44:53 PM PDT by breakem
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To: Exit148
I agree,40 would be a good age if I had to choose.
92 posted on 07/12/2003 8:55:03 PM PDT by 2rightsleftcoast
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To: ovrtaxt
I know a joke about nursing home sex. It has to do with Parkinsons.

If it's the one about going to the movie, I loved it.
93 posted on 07/12/2003 10:09:34 PM PDT by gcruse (There is no such thing as society: there are individual men and women[.] --Margaret Thatcher)
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To: gcruse
No, it's like this--

Mort and Gladys were close friends at the nursing home. Every day, they would sit on the bench outside and she would unzip his pants and hold his wankie. They would sit there all day and talk, and at the end of the day, they would go back inside.

One day, Gladys found Mort sitting on the bench with a different woman. She was holding his wankie just like she did. She indignantly asked him, "What does she have that I don't have?"

He replied, "Parkinson's."
94 posted on 07/13/2003 5:06:52 AM PDT by ovrtaxt
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To: ovrtaxt
Same ending, different setup. Cute joke.
95 posted on 07/13/2003 9:28:56 AM PDT by gcruse (There is no such thing as society: there are individual men and women[.] --Margaret Thatcher)
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To: Squantos
I hope to die "in the saddle" before I'm home-ready.

But, it's nice to know there is still hope....

I visited my WWII uncle at a State Run vets home last weekend. I don't know about the sex, he has Parkinsons pretty bad but I must say that even poor ass Mississippi runs Vets services better than any Fed facility I've ever seen.
96 posted on 07/13/2003 10:34:05 AM PDT by wardaddy (DIVERSITY IS BEST SERVED EARNED)
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