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Missing Democrats an 'affront' to NAACP
herald.com ^ | 7-13-03 | PETER WALLSTEN

Posted on 07/13/2003 3:13:03 PM PDT by Paul Atreides

The NAACP's top leadership lashed out Saturday at several of the major Democratic candidates for president, calling their intention to skip Monday's candidate forum an ''affront'' to the nation's oldest civil rights organization.

As many as four of the nine candidates have refused to participate in the forum, expressing reluctance to appear on stage with their rivals in a debate format, NAACP officials said.

As of late Saturday, Sens. John Edwards of North Carolina and Joseph Lieberman of Connecticut and Reps. Richard Gephardt of Missouri and Dennis Kucinich of Ohio were not expected to attend. Sen. Bob Graham of Florida was scheduled to attend, along with former Vermont Gov. Howard Dean, former Illinois Sen. Carol Moseley Braun and the Rev. Al Sharpton. Massachusetts Sen. John Kerry plans to go to the convention, but his campaign is pressing for a change in the debate format.

The actions drew outrage Saturday from NAACP President Kweisi Mfume and Chairman Julian Bond, who told The Herald that any candidate who skipped the forum would lose credibility with black voters.

''If you can't come to the nation's oldest and largest civil rights organization's national conference to lay out what you believe in and the direction you think our country should go in, you certainly have no legitimacy going into black communities asking for votes,'' said Mfume, as he prepared to welcome delegates to the NAACP's annual conference. ``If you can't do a forum where you're simply asked a question and asked to respond, the question is can you really lead?''

He pointed to an elderly woman in a wheelchair and said, ``It's an affront to people like her, who came to this convention to see the presidential candidates.''

The tension comes as the candidates vie for black votes that have become increasingly important in the Democratic primary season.

After the Iowa caucuses and the New Hampshire primary, the candidates will compete just days later in South Carolina, where it is estimated that more than half of the Democratic primary electorate will be African-American.

Additional southern primaries come soon thereafter, in Virginia, Tennessee and possibly Alabama -- all states where the black vote is considered decisive in Democratic primaries.

The NAACP is credited with registering 2 million new voters in 2000 and almost putting Al Gore in the White House. It plans to play a vigorous role again in 2004.

Mfume's sharp language Saturday was supported by Bond, who said in an interview that those who did not attend the forum would send a clear message.

''Those who do come demonstrate as much by their presence as by their words that they're interested in what this audience has to say,'' Bond said. ``Their absence says the contrary.''

Mfume saved his strongest criticism for Edwards, who credits black voters with handing him his 1998 victory over an incumbent Republican. The Edwards campaign asked the NAACP in May to rearrange its convention schedule to accommodate the senator.

''I'm particularly perplexed by his actions,'' Mfume said. ``We dropped everything for him.''

Edwards spokeswoman Jennifer Palmieri acknowledged asking for a changed date but said the second date also was inconvenient.

Palmieri said late Saturday that the campaign was still trying to figure out a way for Edwards to attend. If that didn't work out, she said, ``We will turn our schedule upside down to find a time when we can come to Miami.''

Spokesmen for Gephardt and Lieberman said last week that their candidates had scheduling conflicts. Kucinich had initially planned to attend but told NAACP officials that he wanted to be in Washington for a vote instead.

The flap between the Democratic candidates and the leaders of one of the party's most important interest groups underscored a brewing conflict within the campaigns on the need to court critical black votes but avoid potentially risky events where the candidates cannot control the circumstances.

At other forums, including last month's Rainbow/PUSH Coalition event hosted by the Rev. Jesse Jackson, the major candidates have been largely overshadowed by the more animated Sharpton. Or, as in South Carolina in May, the event was dominated by snippy exchanges between Dean and Kerry.

The candidates recently signed an agreement with the Democratic National Committee establishing six officially sanctioned joint appearances before the primary elections begin in January.

Campaign officials argue that the agreement limits them to the six joint appearances.

According to NAACP officials, at least two campaigns -- Kerry and Edwards -- were involved in intense negotiations with the organization late Saturday, urging it to prevent a format in which the candidates appeared together.

Kerry's deputy campaign manager, Marcus Jadotte, said late Saturday that the senator was planning to attend the convention to meet with delegates, but that ``based on an agreement we have with the party and several of the other campaigns, we are working with the NAACP on a format for the public event that will allow Sen. Kerry to take part.''

But it was unclear Saturday that the agreement actually meant the candidates could not agree to more debates. A spokesman for the DNC, Tony Welch, said that candidates were free to schedule as many additional joint appearances as they desired.

Mfume suggested a different theory for the candidates' reluctance: a fear of matching wits with Sharpton or Dean, whose lively style and support for positions backed by the NAACP are likely to win enthusiastic applause.

''If you're afraid to appear against Al Sharpton, then maybe you need to be running for another office,'' he said.

Herald staff writer Sonji Jacobs contributed to this report.


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To: Paul Atreides; Liz; Howlin; ALOHA RONNIE; RonDog
The NAACP's top leadership lashed out...

Disarray? Partisan? Gridlock? Oh, yeah...

41 posted on 07/13/2003 6:16:26 PM PDT by Libloather (Gimme fuel, gimme fire, gimme that which I desire - ewww...)
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...you certainly have no legitimacy going into black communities asking for votes,'' said Mfume...

Can those votes be bought - Mf?

42 posted on 07/13/2003 6:19:51 PM PDT by Libloather (Gimme fuel, gimme fire, gimme that which I desire - ewww...)
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To: Paul Atreides
"The actions drew outrage Saturday from NAACP President Kweisi Mfume and Chairman Julian Bond, who told The Herald that any candidate who skipped the forum would lose credibility with black voters."

Let the games begin.

43 posted on 07/13/2003 6:53:27 PM PDT by sweetliberty ("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
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To: rdb3; Khepera; elwoodp; MAKnight; condolinda; mafree; Trueblackman; FRlurker; Teacher317; ...
"You should kneel before Zod!"

Sounds like the NAACP is starting to figure out they're irrelevant.

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44 posted on 07/13/2003 7:12:17 PM PDT by mhking
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To: Paul Atreides
>civil rights organization

The NAACP is not a "civil rights" organization. Civil rights are not specific to any race. It should be called what it is- a black liberal advocacy group. Liberals love hiding behind these altruistic and non-partisan sounding names (ie: National Organization of Women) while shamelessly peddling partisan politics. It works effectively on the masses who assume these groups have no political axe to grind. We should press the media to quit doing the bidding of the Democrat party, and adopt a policy of evenhandedness in labeling. We all know they would never mention any conservative group without throwing out "right-leaning" as if to instantly rob them of their objectivity.
45 posted on 07/13/2003 7:14:17 PM PDT by jagrmeister
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To: Paul Atreides
The NAACP is under scrutiny for practicing politics under a tax-exempt banner. Kweisi Mfume and Chairman Julian Bond are a couple of racist charlatans who could care less about America if it isn't of the black race. Civil Rights are their bread and butter for without strife among the Black Americans, they would have no jobs.

When you look at America you see every ethnic face the world over – we are the world; we are the free world with a Constitution better than any in the history of the world. Screw them and the horse they rode in on, their racist days are over. Even a democrat recognizes that!

46 posted on 07/13/2003 7:38:43 PM PDT by yoe
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To: mhking
"You should kneel before Zod!"

Geek test. It's either:

"Come son of Jor-El, kneel before Zod!"

or

"Come to me son of Jorel! Kneel before Zod!"

or

"Come to me Superman if you dare! I defy you! Come... come and kneel before Zod. ZOD!"

...but I don't think it's "you *should*". Muhahah!


47 posted on 07/13/2003 7:41:57 PM PDT by Kip Lange ("And yet it moves.")
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To: cidrasm
These morons have yet to figure out that they have NO clout in the Dem party precisely because 95% of them always vote for Dems.

If the Dems had to fight for their votes, then as a group, they would hold sway within the party.
48 posted on 07/13/2003 7:47:19 PM PDT by Guillermo (Proud Infidel)
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To: Kip Lange
Holy moly!
I sure am glad he didn't mis-quote Kipling.

<\:-)~~
49 posted on 07/13/2003 7:47:49 PM PDT by JoeSixPack1 (POW/MIA - Bring 'em home, or send us back! Semper Fi)
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To: Paul Atreides
Blacks are a passe victim group for liberals. How bad does it get? Will the DNC make Sharpton out to be the new Sister Soulja? Will dems hurt the ones who love 'em? (Bet on it)

The NAACP's top leadership lashed out Saturday at several of the major Democratic candidates for president, calling their intention to skip Monday's candidate forum an ''affront'' to the nation's oldest civil rights organization.

50 posted on 07/13/2003 7:55:09 PM PDT by GOPJ
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To: Kip Lange
but I don't think it's "you *should*"

Details, details...what is this, some kind of Spanish Inquisition?

[g]

51 posted on 07/13/2003 8:02:36 PM PDT by mhking
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To: AnAmericanMother; ConservativeMan55
But I don't think it makes a "civil rights" organization

AAM, you have a hard time distingishing humor? Lighten up.

CCM, see the link in post #30.

52 posted on 07/13/2003 8:20:24 PM PDT by farmfriend ( Isaiah 55:10,11)
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To: mhking
ROFL! Chumming the waters?
53 posted on 07/13/2003 8:25:48 PM PDT by JoeSixPack1 (POW/MIA - Bring 'em home, or send us back! Semper Fi)
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To: mhking
Oh, you won't get me that easy.

Okay, yes you will.

"NOBODY expects the Spanish Inquisition! Our chief weapon is surprise...surprise and fear...fear and surprise.... Our two weapons are fear and surprise...and ruthless efficiency.... Our three weapons are fear, surprise, and ruthless efficiency...and an almost fanatical devotion to the Pope.... Our four...no... Amongst our weapons.... Amongst our weaponry...are such elements as fear, surprise.... I'll come in again."
54 posted on 07/13/2003 9:00:27 PM PDT by Kip Lange ("And yet it moves.")
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To: Paul Atreides
Shades of algore! Sounds like some of the limousine libs are suffering from a "Low Negro Tolerance Level". Wonder if the eventual 'Rat candidate will pass on kissing Oprah this time too?


55 posted on 07/13/2003 10:43:27 PM PDT by Stultis
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To: Paul Atreides
''...to lay out what you believe in and the direction you think our country should go in...

Come on boys--you need to get with the program. The NAACP wants to know what the "gimmes" are going to be. I think leftist/liberal blacks are soon to have a rude awakening in this country. The Dems will continue to take them for granted and the Republicans have all but given up on ever making inroads with any sizeable numbers to matter and moved on to the Hispanic vote where the potential in numbers is much better.(I don't like the fact that some Republicans will start to schmooze the Hispanics with "gimmes" to get votes BTW). Looks like Queasy and company have voted themselves into a corner with not too many bargaining chips. The gimmes are like a drug and the leftist/liberal blacks are too silly to realize the Democrat leadership has got them just where they want them--dependent on the system. Where are they going to go now? Maybe Al and Jesse can start their own party and make blacks even more irrelevant to the two party system than they are becoming. No offense meant to my conservative brothers and sisters out there who happen to be black--but 90% of the population ain't playing it smart.

56 posted on 07/14/2003 1:03:05 AM PDT by beaversmom (Celebrating May 5th and all days with an American Flag)
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To: Paul Atreides

Count the number of democrats that arived at this Carol Mosley Braun anouncement party.

Zero, nadda, zippo.

Not one single democrat in the Chicagoland are could even bring themselves to *show up* at Ms. Browns anouncment.

57 posted on 07/14/2003 4:58:02 AM PDT by ChadGore (Kakkate Koi!)
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To: Paul Atreides; rdb3; Khepera; elwoodp; MAKnight; condolinda; mafree; Trueblackman; FRlurker; ...
I'm going to be in studio (at least in Atlanta) for Joe Scarborough's show on MSNBC tonight on this very topic.

From what I understand, it'll probably be in their opening segment.

58 posted on 07/14/2003 9:10:59 AM PDT by mhking
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To: Paul Atreides
He pointed to an elderly woman in a wheelchair and said, ``It's an affront to people like her, who came to this convention to see the presidential candidates.''

Think about the old handicapped people! C'mon demonrats!
59 posted on 07/14/2003 12:38:20 PM PDT by honeygrl
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To: Cacique
Cacique you hit the nail on the head with that one. I am sick and tired of black folks acting like whitey owes us something. STFU and get a job. These idiots critize everything and they wouldn't know the truth if it walked up and bi$&h slapped them. Even on O'Reilly tonight that guy Guyot was spewing the same crap. It is time for the people to start refuting and I hope Mike does it tonight on Scarbourgh Country.

Hope all is well up where you are.
60 posted on 07/14/2003 5:39:52 PM PDT by Warrior Nurse (We came, we saw, we kicked their a$$. Who's next?!)
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