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Gen.: G.I.s who rip leaders will pay
New York Daily News ^ | 7/17/03 | HELEN KENNEDY

Posted on 07/17/2003 1:35:20 AM PDT by kattracks

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To: mystery-ak
Well, finding a wife at Ft Stewart whose husband is in Iraq would not be that hard...
41 posted on 07/17/2003 5:03:18 AM PDT by Cacophonous
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To: kattracks
I'm sure there will be at least one Freeper who pouts about perfumed princes of power, but the general is absolutely right !

The soldiers who permitted themselves to be televised for the purpose of stirring up bad feeling against the administration and the army should be charged with violation of Article 134:bringing discredit upon the service.

As to the reporters who did this hatchet job, I think they sould do the right thing: resign their posts and go to work directly for the DNC.
42 posted on 07/17/2003 5:05:41 AM PDT by genefromjersey (So little time - so many FLAMES to light !!)
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To: MinuteGal
Check out the dateline Leni.

This item is presented as a first person reporting of a news event that included precisely worded quotes attributed to specifically identified subjects.

Either this reporter was involved in some organized teleconference access to a managed showcase of provocative statements offered by six enlisted grunts in Baghdad, Iraq, or she misrepresented the authenticity of her original reporting.

So, this thing was teleconferenced? Or, did this reporter fabricate her exposure to the persons and statements?

How can anyone conduct their professional duties with such ethical disregard?

43 posted on 07/17/2003 5:06:31 AM PDT by ArneFufkin
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To: MinuteGal
"There's no doubt our enemy is within."

Speaking of that, has anyone heard any news of the raghaed Marine who fragged and killed several of his own troops?

Is there a hush-hush on that story?

44 posted on 07/17/2003 5:08:14 AM PDT by Happy2BMe (LIBERTY has arrived in Iraq - Now we can concentrate on HOLLYWEED!)
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To: astounded
I read this morning that these 6 will be disiplined, but the what is going to be left up to the unit commanders.

Considering this is was suppose to be the one week they were expecting a lot from the Iraqi's due to the holiday, I'm not surprise the leftist media put this show one.
45 posted on 07/17/2003 5:10:44 AM PDT by boxerblues (God Bless the 101st, stay safe, stay alert and watch your backs)
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To: Ronly Bonly Jones
This is an old damn story. Haven't any of you heard of the "Wanna-Go-Home" Riots in the late 1940s?

No. Got a link? Or just some info?
46 posted on 07/17/2003 5:12:58 AM PDT by George W. Bush
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To: Happy2BMe
He's heading towards a courts martial. There was a thread yesterday that he is being charged with two counts of premeditated murder and several counts of attempted murder. Death penalty possible. His lawyer is whining about him being persecuted because he's a muslim (big surprise).
47 posted on 07/17/2003 5:13:03 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim (The Preview button is for wimps!)
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To: ArneFufkin
The unidentified stripe hanger was probably a Nation of Islam puke.
48 posted on 07/17/2003 5:13:12 AM PDT by Lion Den Dan
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To: Neets
Your right but to many people do not understand what honor and duty and love of country is all about.
49 posted on 07/17/2003 5:14:19 AM PDT by Vaduz
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To: Happy2BMe
He is up court martial
50 posted on 07/17/2003 5:14:53 AM PDT by boxerblues (God Bless the 101st, stay safe, stay alert and watch your backs)
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To: kattracks
Disloyal media alert.
51 posted on 07/17/2003 5:15:44 AM PDT by verity
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To: Happy2BMe
Actually, he was in the 101st.

The reason why you aren't hearing anything is because the Army ain't in the habit of publicly commenting on impending courts-martial, and the guy's lawyer is more competent than Mark "Throw it on the wall and see if it sticks" Geragos.
52 posted on 07/17/2003 5:15:46 AM PDT by Poohbah (Crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentations of their women.)
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To: Tijeras_Slim; MeeknMing
" Death penalty possible. His lawyer is whining about him being persecuted because he's a muslim (big surprise)."

Yep - the raghead was persecuted all right. Hell, he should be allowed to just go into the barracks and start cutting infidel throats for tension release.

This is a hugh backfire on the PC crowd inside DoD.

They intentionally promoted Muslims inside the Chaplain Corps of all branches - some are even the top chaplains for their entire service (AF?).

PC bites again.

53 posted on 07/17/2003 5:18:20 AM PDT by Happy2BMe (LIBERTY has arrived in Iraq - Now we can concentrate on HOLLYWEED!)
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To: MinuteGal
Never mind, I see she identified ABCNews and Knight Ridder. She picked up the Pentagon Press Release and transcribed that, then she faithfully recounted as an assumed truth the ethically context and properly attributed quotations published in stories written by other reporters for other media outlets ... hey that's a journalistic effort worth a featured byline.
54 posted on 07/17/2003 5:23:47 AM PDT by ArneFufkin
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To: Cinnamon Girl
Wow, wow, wow. I can't believe I'm reading this.Same here. I know in my division and shop, we complain to each other and all but this was way out of line. I know if this particular senior NCO worked for me, I would probably be the first to officially bring back fan room counseling.
55 posted on 07/17/2003 5:26:43 AM PDT by wasp69 (The time has come.......)
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To: WhiskeyPapa
Hey!!!!!!! Walt! Glad to see you back from time out. I'm glad it wasn't permanent.
56 posted on 07/17/2003 5:31:16 AM PDT by wasp69 (The time has come.......)
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To: kattracks
>>"I've got my own 'Most Wanted' list," said a 2nd Brigade sergeant. "The aces in my deck are Paul Bremer, Donald Rumsfeld, George Bush and Paul Wolfowitz." <<

That has got to be actionable. That's outrageous.
57 posted on 07/17/2003 5:31:24 AM PDT by SerpentDove (Visit my profile page. Steal my graphics.)
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To: Poohbah
"The reason why you aren't hearing anything is because the Army ain't in the habit of publicly commenting on impending courts-martial, and the guy's lawyer is more competent than Mark "Throw it on the wall and see if it sticks" Geragos."

Tnx - Poobah!

Hey - will he be permitted to interview any of the fragging survivors or their relatives to prepare his defense case?

/sarcasm

58 posted on 07/17/2003 5:32:22 AM PDT by Happy2BMe (LIBERTY has arrived in Iraq - Now we can concentrate on HOLLYWEED!)
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To: kattracks
This is not new, sinister, or suprising to me or the soldiers involved. I almost bit my tounge off during the Carter administration.

After I retired in '92 my wife had to stay IRR to receive her annual VSI payments. At her reenlistment ceremony in '96 I pointed out to the Cpt administering her oath that the lines "support and defend the constitution from all enemies, foreign and domestic" and "obey the orders of the president" were totally incompatible.

As a retired NCO I have the freedom to express my opinions. All AD personnel and retired Regular Army officers are bound by the UCMJ to not make disparaging remarks.

59 posted on 07/17/2003 5:38:35 AM PDT by Feckless
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To: Happy2BMe
Akbar is a raghead soldier not a Marine.
60 posted on 07/17/2003 5:40:59 AM PDT by SMEDLEYBUTLER
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