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French Government Bans Term 'E-Mail' (Internet Surrenders!)
AP ^ | 7-18-2003 | JAMEY KEATEN

Posted on 07/18/2003 10:19:37 AM PDT by visagoth



French Government Bans Term 'E-Mail'


Associated Press

Goodbye "e-mail," the French government says, and hello "courriel" - the term that linguistically sensitive France is now using to refer to electronic mail in official documents.

The Culture Ministry has announced a ban on the use of "e-mail" in all government ministries, documents, publications or Web sites, the latest step to stem an incursion of English words into the French lexicon.

The ministry's General Commission on Terminology and Neology insists Internet surfers in France are broadly using the term "courrier electronique" (electronic mail) instead of e-mail - a claim some industry experts dispute. "Courriel" is a fusion of the two words.

"Evocative, with a very French sound, the word 'courriel' is broadly used in the press and competes advantageously with the borrowed 'mail' in English," the commission has ruled.

The move to ban "e-mail" was announced last week after the decision was published in the official government register on June 20. Courriel is a term that has often been used in French-speaking Quebec, the commission said.

The 7-year-old commission has links to the Academie Francaise, the prestigious institution that has been one of the top opponents of allowing English terms to seep into French.

Some Internet industry experts say the decision is artificial and doesn't reflect reality.

"The word 'courriel' is not at all actively used," Marie-Christine Levet, president of French Internet service provider Club Internet, said Friday. "E-mail has sunk in to our values."

She said Club Internet wasn't changing the words it uses.

"Protecting the language is normal, but e-mail's so assimilated now that no one thinks of it as American," she said. "Courriel would just be a new word to launch."


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TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: email; france; internet

1 posted on 07/18/2003 10:19:37 AM PDT by visagoth
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To: visagoth
Even 58 years after we drove the Nazis out of France, the French are still reminiscing on the good old days of fascism.
2 posted on 07/18/2003 10:25:21 AM PDT by Thane_Banquo
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To: visagoth
Sacre' bleu!!

FMDH

3 posted on 07/18/2003 10:25:26 AM PDT by nothingnew (the pendulum swings and the libs are in the pit)
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4 posted on 07/18/2003 10:26:13 AM PDT by Support Free Republic (Your support keeps Free Republic going strong!)
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To: visagoth
"Sacre' bleu!!"

Sack a' somethin'! Like the French's Mustard people recentl said, "The only thing our mustard has in common with the French is that it's yellow."
5 posted on 07/18/2003 10:30:50 AM PDT by laweeks
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To: visagoth
You may check the number of occurrences of e-mail on French government web pages with text in French:

http://www.alltheweb.com/search?advanced=1&cat=web&cs=iso-8859-1&jsact=&_stype=norm&type=all&q=e-mail&_b_query=&l=fr&ics=iso-8859-1&cs=iso-8859-1&wf%5Bn%5D=3&wf%5B0%5D%5Br%5D=%2B&wf%5B0%5D%5Bq%5D=&wf%5B0%5D%5Bw%5D=&wf%5B1%5D%5Br%5D=-&wf%5B1%5D%5Bq%5D=&wf%5B1%5D%5Bw%5D=&wf%5B2%5D%5Br%5D=&wf%5B2%5D%5Bq%5D=&wf%5B2%5D%5Bw%5D=&dincl=gouv.fr&dexcl=&geo=&limip=&doctype=&dfr%5Bd%5D=1&dfr%5Bm%5D=1&dfr%5By%5D=1980&dto%5Bd%5D=18&dto%5Bm%5D=7&dto%5By%5D=2003&size%5Bp%5D=%3D&size%5Bv%5D=&size%5Bx%5D=0&hits=10&nooc=on

it was 1,976
6 posted on 07/18/2003 10:31:18 AM PDT by AdmSmith
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To: visagoth
To p--- off French people, use the word "courriel" when talking with them instead of the word "E-mail." But pronounce it like an American word, "corry - ell." Do the same thing for computer (they say "ordinateur" ==> you say "ordinator").

They are trying to avoid English-sounding words, so this should drive them up the wall.

7 posted on 07/18/2003 10:31:46 AM PDT by xm177e2 (Stalinists, Maoists, Ba'athists, Pacifists: Why are they always on the same side?)
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To: visagoth
The Culture Ministry ... The ministry's General Commission on Terminology and Neology ...

Ugh.

8 posted on 07/18/2003 10:32:25 AM PDT by Quicksilver (FreeRepublic.com is show-prep for Rush)
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To: visagoth
When I came across the story - my first thought was:

Freedom Mail!


heh heh
10 posted on 07/18/2003 10:37:28 AM PDT by visagoth (If you think education is expensive - try ignorance)
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To: visagoth
French ebonics?
11 posted on 07/18/2003 10:39:35 AM PDT by AF_Blue (It's the color of the sky when you look up to watch the jets fly over.)
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To: AdmSmith
And the number for courriel is..

http://www.alltheweb.com/search?advanced=1&cat=web&cs=iso-8859-1&jsact=&_stype=norm&type=all&q=courriel&_b_query=&l=fr&ics=iso-8859-1&cs=iso-8859-1&wf%5Bn%5D=3&wf%5B0%5D%5Br%5D=%2B&wf%5B0%5D%5Bq%5D=&wf%5B0%5D%5Bw%5D=&wf%5B1%5D%5Br%5D=-&wf%5B1%5D%5Bq%5D=&wf%5B1%5D%5Bw%5D=&wf%5B2%5D%5Br%5D=&wf%5B2%5D%5Bq%5D=&wf%5B2%5D%5Bw%5D=&dincl=gouv.fr&dexcl=&geo=&limip=&doctype=&dfr%5Bd%5D=1&dfr%5Bm%5D=1&dfr%5By%5D=1980&dto%5Bd%5D=18&dto%5Bm%5D=7&dto%5By%5D=2003&size%5Bp%5D=%3D&size%5Bv%5D=&size%5Bx%5D=0&hits=10&nooc=on

yes it is 174

So as always with the frogs they say one thing and do something else.
12 posted on 07/18/2003 10:40:12 AM PDT by AdmSmith
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To: Quicksilver
Whenever I hear the term Culture Ministry, I know it's code for Left-wing PC Fascism Ministry.
13 posted on 07/18/2003 10:40:28 AM PDT by Thane_Banquo
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To: visagoth
andouilles !!
14 posted on 07/18/2003 10:40:34 AM PDT by Publius6961 (Californians are as dumm as a sack of rocks)
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To: visagoth
Internet surfers in France are broadly using the term "courrier electronique" (electronic mail) instead of e-mail

YOu call it tomaaato, I call it tomahto...

16 posted on 07/18/2003 10:41:46 AM PDT by Zavien Doombringer (Ain't nothing worse than feeling obsolete....)
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To: visagoth
Pretty soon the the Minister of Culture is going to have to do away with the Tour De France because it is getting too American. Go USPS!!!!!!
17 posted on 07/18/2003 10:42:25 AM PDT by vastrightwc
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To: visagoth
What a bunch of weenies!

I am waiting for them to insist that all aircraft approaching all French international airports communicate exclusively in French.

He he he he

18 posted on 07/18/2003 10:43:34 AM PDT by Publius6961 (Californians are as dumm as a sack of rocks)
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To: visagoth
Online Poll - How would you rate this new word?

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19 posted on 07/18/2003 10:44:14 AM PDT by Honcho Bongs
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To: visagoth
Let's send them an "e-mail" right now.
20 posted on 07/18/2003 10:51:08 AM PDT by polemikos (This Space for Rant)
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To: visagoth
The Culture Ministry has announced a ban on the use of "e-mail" in all government ministries, documents, publications or Web sites, the latest step to stem an incursion of English words into the French lexicon.

I guess it is only fair, since we have taken steps to stop the incursion of twisted French influence by substituting "cheese eating surrender monkey" for Frenchman in our lexicon.

21 posted on 07/18/2003 11:12:52 AM PDT by SpinyNorman
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To: xm177e2
To p--- off French people, use the word "courriel" when talking with them instead of the word "E-mail." But pronounce it like an American word, "corry - ell." Do the same thing for computer (they say "ordinateur" ==> you say "ordinator").
Funny. Funny. Funny! :D
22 posted on 07/18/2003 11:28:44 AM PDT by Rate_Determining_Step (US Military - Draining the Swamp of Terrorism since 2001!)
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To: visagoth
The word 'courriel' is not at all actively used," Marie-Christine Levet, president of French Internet service provider Club Internet, said Friday. "E-mail has sunk in to our values."

The word "Internet" has also sunk into their values too, by the looks of things. Will they move to ban that, too?

23 posted on 07/18/2003 11:29:05 AM PDT by marshmallow
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To: marshmallow
OK, just for that, I will no longer use the word derriere...I will just call it "butt". Two can play at this game!!!! (/sarcasm off)
24 posted on 07/18/2003 12:12:47 PM PDT by Gopher Broke (Abortion: Big people killing little people)
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To: visagoth
Next is the word "internet" which Al Gore invented.
25 posted on 07/18/2003 12:19:19 PM PDT by monocle
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To: vastrightwc
Pretty soon the the Minister of Culture is going to have to do away with the Tour De France because it is getting too American. Go USPS!!!!!!

Except most of the members of Team USPS are not from the United States.

26 posted on 07/18/2003 12:23:48 PM PDT by Labyrinthos
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To: Publius6961
He he he he, and the pilots would have to eat lots of beans, turn their hinies to the mike........ and after landing they could say: "Pardon my French."
27 posted on 07/18/2003 12:31:50 PM PDT by F.J. Mitchell
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To: xm177e2
But pronounce it like an American word, "corry - ell."

That's NOT how it's pronounced ?

28 posted on 07/18/2003 12:38:10 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (We are crushing our enemies, seeing him driven before us and hearing the lamentations of the liberal)
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To: visagoth
The French just want attention. They are a loser government which in a few decades will be taken over by its Muslim population (democratically).
29 posted on 07/18/2003 12:52:10 PM PDT by yonif
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To: visagoth
Why doesnt the french government do something productive like passing a ban on birth.
38 posted on 07/18/2003 1:24:11 PM PDT by Enemy Of The State (If we don't take action now, We settle for nothing later!)
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