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Iranian Alert -- DAY 41 -- LIVE THREAD PING LIST
The Iranian Student Movement Up To The Minute Reports ^ | 7.20.2003 | DoctorZin

Posted on 07/20/2003 12:02:52 AM PDT by DoctorZIn

The regime is working hard to keep the news about the protest movment in Iran from being reported.

From jamming satellite broadcasts, to prohibiting news reporters from covering any demonstrations to shutting down all cell phones and even hiring foreign security to control the population, the regime is doing everything in its power to keep the popular movement from expressing its demand for an end of the regime.

These efforts by the regime, while successful in the short term, do not resolve the fundamental reasons why this regime is crumbling from within.

Iran is a country ready for a regime change. If you follow this thread you will witness, I believe, the transformation of a nation. This daily thread provides a central place where those interested in the events in Iran can find the best news and commentary.

Please continue to join us here, post your news stories and comments to this thread.

Thanks for all the help.


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1 posted on 07/20/2003 12:02:52 AM PDT by DoctorZIn
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Join Us at the Iranian Alert -- DAY 41 -- LIVE THREAD PING LIST

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"If you want on or off this Iran ping list, Freepmail me”

2 posted on 07/20/2003 12:03:40 AM PDT by DoctorZIn (IranAzad... Until they are free, we shall all be Iranians!)
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Will CNN Never Learn?

Repeating their Iraqi mistakes in Iran.


It appears CNN is once again in the business of burying news stories when their reports might embarrass their host country. If it were not for a student from Iran I might not have heard of this report. Fortunately the world of the Internet makes it increasingly difficult for stories to remain hidden from the public. The story I am referring to was published on and while written in Farsi is available on the net. I contacted CNN for a response but they chose not to. is reporting that an Iranian student, Hamid, provided CNN with video of the attack on the student dormitories by the regime. The student was arrested by the regime and taken to the same prison, Evin where the Canadian/Iranian photojournalist Zahra Kazemi was tortured. Kazemi eventually died allegedly under the hands of the regime official Saeed Mortezavi, Tehran's Chief Prosecutor. The story of her murder has been international news for the past week.

But unlike Kazemi whose photos of the Evin prison remain in the hands of the regime, Hamid was successful in getting his footage to CNN. According to this report CNN is refusing to air the student’s footage, claiming it would endanger his life. But since they refused to air the footage the story has not received international attention and his life is now in grave danger.

It was reported that as the regime’s enforcers arrived to arrest him Hamid, he ate additional footage to keep it from the regime. They report that this young man was then taken to Evin prison where the same official responsible for the death of Kazemi ordered immediate surgery in the prison to retrieve the footage in his stomach. Since that time, due to infections caused by the surgery they were forced to move him to a hospital where it is reported he has four different infections.

Apparently CNN has not yet learned it lesson about protecting tortuous regimes. Just a few months ago CNN admitted that it sat on a variety of news stories in Iraq that would have exposed the nature of the Iraqi regime (New York Times, Editorial | April 11, 2003, Friday The News We Kept To Ourselves, by CNN producer Eason Jordan).

In both cases they use the same excuse that they are protecting the lives of their sources of information.

In reality, the only thing keeping the regime from killing this brave Iranian is international awareness of his situation. The regime needs to maintain the illusion of respect for human rights to provide the Europeans and Japan with an excuse for further economic ties. If CNN were to broadcast this report and attribute it to him it would provide him with the notoriety needed to keep him from being one more unnamed student executed by the regime. It is time for CNN to stop protecting this regime in order to maintain its office in Tehran. When journalists sell out their ethics for rating it destroys the value of a free press to protect the innocent from corrupt governments.

I hope CNN will reconsider its position on this story. It may save a life and perhaps redeem the soul of that network.

3 posted on 07/20/2003 12:10:23 AM PDT by DoctorZIn (IranAzad... Until they are free, we shall all be Iranians!)
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Do we have to send e-mails and requests to the Medias?
We have to draw the world's attention to this case.
4 posted on 07/20/2003 12:18:22 AM PDT by F14 Pilot
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I wrote the editorial above because no one is reporting this story. If you can help get this story out it may save a life.

Thank you in advance for your help.

5 posted on 07/20/2003 12:19:54 AM PDT by DoctorZIn (IranAzad... Until they are free, we shall all be Iranians!)
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To: F14 Pilot
Yes, please contact the media and alert them of this story.

Here are a few sources you can contact and please email if any of the information needs updating or correcting:

E-mail major media:;;;;;;;;;;; (Arab)
CBS News...go to the "feedback" button at bottom of page


Associated Press

50 Rockefeller Plaza
New York, NY 10020
Phone: (212) 621-1610, 621-1500
Fax: (212) 621-7520

Chicago Tribune

435 North Michigan Avenue
Chicago, IL 60611-4041
Fax: (312) 222-2598

The Guardian (UK)

The Independent (UK)

Jewish Telegraphic Agency
330 Seventh Avenue, NY, NY 10001
Phone: (212) 643-1890
Fax: (212) 643-8498

Jewish Week (New York)
1501 Broadway
New York, NY 10036
Phone: (212) 921-7822
Fax: (212) 921-8420
Gary Rosenblatt, Publisher

Los Angeles Times

Times Mirror Square
Los Angeles, CA 90053
Phone: (213) 237-5000
Fax: (213) 237-4712
Jerusalem correspondents: Tracy Wilkinson, Mary Curtius

Miami Herald

One Herald Plaza
Miami, FL 33132
Phone: (305) 350-2111

New York Times
(include: full name, full address, day and evening phone numbers)

229 W. 43rd Street, NY, NY 10036
Phone: (212) 556-1234, (888) 698-6397
Fax: (212) 556-3690, 556-3622

251 W. 57th St.
New York, NY 10019
Phone: (212) 445-4000, (212) 445-4585
Fax: (212) 445-5068

747 Third Avenue
New York, NY 10017
Phone: (212) 833-9250
Fax: (212) 859-1717

Time Magazine
1271 Avenue of the Americas
New York, NY 10020
Phone: (212) 522-3817
Fax: (212) 522-9153
Jerusalem bureau chief: Matt Rees

The Times (London)

USA Today

1000 Wilson Blvd.
Arlington, VA 22229
Phone: (703) 276-3400
Fax: (703) 247-3108

U.S. News and World Report

1050 Thomas Davidson St., NW
Washington, DC 20007-3837
Phone: (202) 955-2000
Fax: (202) 955-2049

Wall Street Journal

200 Liberty Street
New York, NY 10281
Phone: (212) 416-2327
Fax: (212) 416-2653

Washington Post

1150 15th St., NW
Washington, DC 20071
Phone: (202) 334-6000, (202) 334-7512
Fax: (202) 334-7502


ABC News

47 W. 66th St
New York, NY 10023
Phone: (212) 456-7477, 456-3796
Fax: (212) 456-4866, 456-2795

World News Tonight with Peter Jennings
Phone: (212) 456-4040

Foreign Desk Editor: Chuck Lustig
Phone: (212) 256-2800
Fax: (212) 456-2771

Israel Correspondent: Gillian Findlay
FAX (972) 5-500-2051

BBC - British Broadcasting

CBC - Canadian Broadcasting

CBC Audience Relations
P.O. Box 500 Station A
Toronto, Ontario
M5W 1E6 Canada

CBS News
542 W. 57th St.
New York, NY 10019

News Desk:
Phone: (212) 975-4321, 975-3691
Fax: (212) 975-1893

Managing Editor: Chris Hume
Phone: (212) 975-3019
Fax: 212) 245-7560


1 CNN Center
POB 105366
Atlanta, GA 30348
Phone: (404) 827-1500, (404) 827-1519
Fax: (404) 827-1593, (404) 827-1784

Fox News Hume)

1211 Avenue of the Americas
New York, NY 10036
Phone: (212) 301-3000, (212) 301-5226, (212) 301-3164
Fax: (212) 301-4224


One MSNBC Plaza
Secaucus, NJ 07094
Phone: (201) 583-5000
Fax: (201) 583-5453

NBC News

30 Rockefeller Plaza
New York, NY 10112
Phone: (212) 664-5900
Fax: (212) 664-2914

NPR - National Public Radio
Ombudsman: Jeffrey Dvorkin

635 Mass Ave
Washington, DC 20001
Phone: (202) 414-2000
Fax: (202) 414-3324

PBS - Public Broadcasting

PO BOX 50880
Washington, DC 20091
Phone: (800) 356-2626



Kofi Annan - UN Secretary General,

Terje Rod Larsen - Personal Representative of the Secretary General to the United Nations in Palestine,

Mary Robinson - UN High Commissioner for Human Rights

UN Refugees Relief Agency

President George W. Bush

The White House
1600 Pennsylvania Ave. NW
Washington, DC 20500
Phone: (202) 456-1414
Fax: (202) 456-2883

Vice President Dick Cheney

Office of the Vice President
Old Executive Office Building
Washington, DC 20501
Phone: (202) 456-2326
Fax: (202) 456-7044

U.S. Secretary of State Colin Powell

Department of State
2201 C Street, NW
Washington, DC 20520
Phone: (202) 647-5291, (202) 736-4461

U.S. Secretary of Defense
The Pentagon
Washington, DC 20301
Phone: (703) 695-5261

U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations
799 United Nations Plaza
New York, NY 10017
Phone: (212) 415-4050
Fax: (212) 415-4443

U.S. Ambassador to Israel
Phone: (972) 3-510-8083

Your U.S. Senator
Find e-mail address at
United States Senate
Washington, DC 20510
Phone: (202) 224-3121
6 posted on 07/20/2003 1:08:06 AM PDT by DoctorZIn (IranAzad... Until they are free, we shall all be Iranians!)
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Another great article by Amir Taheri...

This time about Iraq.

"If you want on or off this Iran ping list, Freepmail me”
7 posted on 07/20/2003 1:56:16 AM PDT by DoctorZIn (IranAzad... Until they are free, we shall all be Iranians!)
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To: DoctorZIn

Any one sent any letter or e-mail to sleepy Medias?????
Let's focus on that poor boy tonight.
8 posted on 07/20/2003 2:34:48 AM PDT by F14 Pilot
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When you talk about going to Iran people have images of hanging out in leafy gardens and traditional tea houses or encountering crowds of angry men shouting "Death to America".

But I spent many of my evenings with my three-year-old child in burger joints like Mac Mashallas - an Iranian imitation of McDonald's - the fast-food icon of the "Great Satan".

American-style restaurants have rapidly spread throughout Tehran in the past year or two.

They are popular haunts for young people who now have access to western culture in a way that is unprecedented since the Islamic Revolution.

The ketchup may not be Heinz and the Coca-Cola is certainly not the real thing but these are places where you can feel you might be anywhere in the world - almost.

That is if it was not for the neon sign saying respect Islamic moral values, the head-scarved waitresses and the portraits of Iran's spiritual leaders that seem strangely out of place in the world of Happy Meals and Ronald McDonald.

Cutting edge

The differences are shrinking in a country that once talked about building a Chinese-style wall around itself to protect its values from outside corruption.

Disney has penetrated this market like every other - at amusement arcades they sell Mr Potato Head and Buzz Lightyear from the Toy Story films.
While children play on flight simulator video games which say US State Department, I wonder who they think the enemy is being bombed out of existence on the screen.

It is only the mothers who look a bit like something from another planet - some in diaphanous headscarves and chic coats - others shrouded in seemingly endless layers of black clothing despite the searing summer heat.

But the teenage girls in outdoor cafes and fast food restaurants are pushing the boundaries like never before.

Short white trousers to mid-calf with no socks, pointy, fashion-victim, high-heeled shoes and skin-tight overcoats that only reach to the knees.

That is with long dyed blonde hair that is only nominally covered with a half see-through white or pink headscarf.

The effect is fairly electric - especially when combined with huge quantities of make-up. It certainly has nothing to do with being modest and demure and everything to do with being a rebel.

These girls are among 45 million people who are today under the age of 30 - the massive force responsible for the winds of change currently blowing over Iran - a country of 65 million.

And it is these young Iranians who have been taking to the streets recently to protest against what they see as the lack of freedom.

Open to outside influences, they now have a taste of what they are missing and they are hungry for more.

Pushing for change

The frustration is huge - one young mother told me she was thinking of taking her two children out to anti-government protests and just leaving a note for her husband to find when he came back from work.

He had warned her not to go - asking who would look after the kids if something happened to her. She was propelled not by recklessness but by a desire for a better future for her daughters.

For the slightly older generation in their 30s who remember the pre-reform years, there is an attitude of awe and envy.

They talk about having had to go to weddings in ankle-length black cloaks with no make-up or nail polish in case they were stopped at a checkpoint and scrutinised.

One woman who grew up during the first years of the revolution described going to England and not knowing who the Hollywood star Richard Gere was - to the shock and horror of her new friends.

Those were the days of isolation - now satellite television, smuggled videos and the internet mean that young Iranians can watch the latest films and keep up with western fashions.

In a country where - if you are a woman - you have to cover even your ankles to enter a government office, you can still watch Fashion TV or sex channels among many hundreds of stations you can receive if you have an illegal satellite dish - something that is now common.

Explaining the paradox

There are so many contradictions that make life in Iran difficult to explain - especially to a three-year-old whose favourite word is why.

"Mummy, you look ugilee," said my son when I wore the obligatory headscarf and overcoat.

But being at a phase where he mimics everything I do he of course wanted to wear a headscarf too and be equally "ugilee".

There were tears if he did not have a cloth tied on his head too when we went out.

He attracted such extraordinary looks of either amusement or horror being a boy wearing a scarf that I finally coaxed him into removing it on the grounds that he would seriously offend people.

"Why?" was a question I found hard to answer in simple terms - not wishing to introduce ideas about men lusting after women's ankles to my toddler.
I just said it was the rule and then my child complained Iran had too many rules.

I could not help but wonder if he had accidentally strayed into the realm of political comment.

Young Iranians are now trying to change the rules, and the question is whether the system will bend to accommodate them.


9 posted on 07/20/2003 2:53:20 AM PDT by F14 Pilot
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Pentagon Team on Iran Comes Under Fire

A small Pentagon planning office under fire for its alleged manipulation of intelligence on Iraq is also dealing with other countries in the Persian Gulf, including Iran, raising concerns among critics about the shaping of Bush administration policy in this sensitive region.

Defense Department spokesmen acknowledge that a small, four-member team is working on Iran policy within the Pentagon's so-called Office of Special Plans. Critics contend that the office has been distorting intelligence on Iraqi weapons of mass destruction and links to Al Qaeda in order to strengthen the case for war.

A senior Pentagon official told the Forward that the office is "a pure policy-planning shop" and was not engaged in reviewing — much less distorting — intelligence.

The furor over the office and its role has emerged as a flashpoint in the larger administration debate over Iran policy, which pits moderates in the State Department against hawks in the Pentagon.

The administration is currently reviewing its policy toward Iran amid a flurry of accusations that Tehran is aggressively pursuing a military nuclear program, meddling in neighboring Iraq and harboring Al Qaeda operatives.

Neoconservatives inside and outside the administration have been urging an active effort to promote regime change in Tehran. Reports of possible covert operations have surfaced in recent weeks.

Several intelligence sources and Iran policy watchers told the Forward that the Office of Special Plans was a key factor in the push for a policy of Iranian regime change.

"They are running their own intelligence operation, including covert action, and are using contractors outside the government to do some of the leg work," said a former top CIA official. "Their area of work has been concentrated on Iraq, which is why the intelligence on WMD was so bad, but they have a much broader portfolio. The office is undergoing some scrutiny from inside the government given its poor track record and the lack of 'sanity checking' their products with the intelligence community. A lot of material they produce is not shared with CIA, not coordinated, and finds its way into public policy statements by the likes of Rumsfeld and Cheney."

A senior Pentagon official strongly denied the allegations, however.

"The Office of Special Plans is a pure policy planning shop and it is not dealing with intelligence," the official told the Forward, stressing that the office was not pushing a hard line on Iran, nor was it conducting any covert operations.

In a news briefing on Wednesday, Douglas Feith, the undersecretary of defense for policy and a prominent neoconservative, rejected allegations that the Pentagon had in any way distorted intelligence information about Iraq.

The Office of Special Plans was first described by journalist Seymour Hersh in a recent New Yorker article. Hersh claimed that it had emerged as a rival to both the CIA and the Pentagon's own Defense Intelligence Agency as a main source providing intelligence on Iraq to President Bush.

The senior Pentagon official said such press reports were "utterly false and a complete fabrication."

The Defense Department has three distinct policy-planning divisions, the official said: one on South Asia, one on the Middle East and one dealing with the Northern Gulf. The latter was renamed "special plans" in October 2002 and had its personnel expanded because it had to deal with an upcoming war against Iraq as well as other issues like terrorism, the official said.

The three policy planning divisions are supervised by the deputy undersecretary of defense for special plans and Near Eastern and South Asian affairs, William Luti.

The senior official argued that the press was confusing the office with a now-disbanded two-person team set up 18 months ago by Feith to review intelligence on terrorist networks and Iraq.

One member of the Iran team, several sources said, is Michael Rubin, an expert who is on the record as favoring regime change in Iran. The other three members are veteran Pentagon Iran hands, some of whom do not share Rubin's views, said a source with close ties to the administration's Iran policymakers.

The source said the office was very active in seeking out advice on Iran and was much more up-to-date on issues than the State Department's Iran desk officers.

"They are interviewing a lot of people, they are gathering intelligence and willing to support pro-democracy people," the source said. "They want simple stuff like funding satellite TV and radio into Iran and want the U.S. government to send a signal to Iranians that if there is an uprising the U.S. will support them. That is all at the moment."

Several sources said the State Department was seeking to improve contacts with Tehran and was skeptical of the neoconservative assessment that the regime was on the verge of collapse.

Gregg Sullivan, a spokesman for the State Department's Near East bureau, declined to comment on the issue.

A clear illustration of the debate is the shifting attitude of the government toward the Mujaheddin el Khalk, or MEK, an opposition group based in Iraq and supported for years by Saddam Hussein that is listed as a terrorist organization by the State Department. After initially bombing MEK bases in Iraq, the American military proceeded to negotiate a cease-fire, before eventually deciding to disarm the group.

Even now, however, some hawks are pressing the administration to engage the group and possibly use it as a proxy against the Tehran regime.

"The Office of Special Plans has been willing to reach out to the MEK and use them as a surrogate to pressure Iran," said Larry Johnson, a former CIA and State Department official who has been among those alleging pressure on analysts by Pentagon hawks to skew intelligence on Iraq.

The senior Defense Department official strongly denied the allegations, contending that the Office of Special Plans had in fact advocated cracking down on the MEK. He said the ensuing policy confusion was due to other government agencies.

State officials also question the clout and democratic credentials of exiled opposition figures like Reza Pahlavi, the son of the late shah who has emerged as an advocate of Iranian secular democracy and a darling of neoconservatives.

The source close to Iran policymakers added that the Pentagon was very much in favor of regime change in Iran and enjoyed the support of the vice president's office. He said advocates were hoping to convince the president over the objections of the State Department.

Perhaps reflecting the fierceness of the debate, a major White House policy meeting on Iran was postponed last week and will only be held after the president returns from his trip to Europe and the Middle East.

10 posted on 07/20/2003 2:59:05 AM PDT by F14 Pilot
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We have to pay attention that, " Mortezavi" is not in a position to beat or order himself.
He has strong back up and support among hard-liners and he got orders from them.
He is not a human but the person or the team which order these cruel actions.
11 posted on 07/20/2003 5:18:16 AM PDT by F14 Pilot
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To: DoctorZIn
CNN is going to hear about this!
So is FOX, MSNBC,Washington Times, Canadian Broadcasting, and don't forget the BLOGS. They can spread news very quickly and some get a lot of attention from Washington types and the media. If someone has a list of some of the more popular blogs and can post them that would be great.
Seamole seems to be familiar with a number of them, if I'm not mistaken.
12 posted on 07/20/2003 8:03:18 AM PDT by nuconvert
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To: seamole
Hey seamole, are you there?
13 posted on 07/20/2003 8:04:12 AM PDT by nuconvert
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To: nuconvert
Most weblogs are registered there.
2nd you can search as weblogs+news+politics in Google or Yahoo!
This way, you can find a list of weblogs.
I will try mine to give a list later.
Remember, most weblogs are filtered in Iran.
14 posted on 07/20/2003 8:26:57 AM PDT by F14 Pilot
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Iran's Khamenei inaugurates new ballistic missile capable of striking Israel
Al Bawaba, the Middle East Gateway July 20 2003

Posted on 07/20/2003 9:52 AM CDT by knighthawk

Iran's supreme leader on Sunday inaugurated a new ballistic missile that brings Israel within range of the Islamic republic, praising the event as a key moment in the defense of the Palestinian cause.

"Today our people and our armed forces are ready to defend their goals anywhere," Ayatollah Ali Khamenei told a ceremony for the elite Revolutionary Guards carried on state television.

"This divine force has answered all threats, and we are witnessing today that this divine force is now doing the same for the Lebanese and the Palestinian people," he added in the ceremony to bring the Shihab-3 missile into service.

Television pictures showed Khamenei flanked by officers and other clerics, at least 1,000 troops in ceremonial dress, and three of the Shihab-3 rockets on what seemed to be mobile launchers.

The report said the Revolutionary Guards, who have their own air force, were also given some new but unidentified attack and transport helicopters as well as an undisclosed number of Russian-built Sukhoi-25 jets, according to AFP.

Yahya Rahim-Safavi, the head of the Revolutionary Guards, said in his speech during the ceremony in Tehran that his force was now "ready to defend Iran against any threat".

15 posted on 07/20/2003 8:33:50 AM PDT by Valin (America is a vast conspiracy to make you happy.)
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To: F14 Pilot
A lot of material they produce is not shared with CIA,

Or anyone else. Of course the same can be said about the CIA, FBI, NRO, NSA..etc. And herein lies(sp) a major problem with the anti-terrorism bureaucracy.
16 posted on 07/20/2003 8:44:06 AM PDT by Valin (America is a vast conspiracy to make you happy.)
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To: Valin
Did you pay attention to the story of that Student?
17 posted on 07/20/2003 8:51:33 AM PDT by F14 Pilot
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To: F14 Pilot
Did you pay attention to the story of that Student?

? Could you point it out to me. Thanks.
18 posted on 07/20/2003 9:01:12 AM PDT by Valin (America is a vast conspiracy to make you happy.)
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To: F14 Pilot
And these idiots wonder why we were hit on 9-11. First the complain that we didn't pay attention to intelligence we had but couldn't prove, and now they complain because we are paying attention to intelligence we have. Which one do they want?

Intelligence is NEVER absolute.

19 posted on 07/20/2003 9:08:51 AM PDT by McGavin999
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To: F14 Pilot
I'll look to see if some specifically accept hot news tips without having to sign up. This type is the fastest to get info out on.
20 posted on 07/20/2003 9:58:57 AM PDT by nuconvert
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