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Democrats bolt again to New Mexico (Senators trying to halt new special session on redistricting)
The Dallas Morning News ^ | July 28, 2003 | By GROMER JEFFERS JR. and WAYNE SLATER / The Dallas Morning News

Posted on 07/29/2003 3:57:31 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP


Democrats bolt again – to New Mexico video

Senators trying to halt new special session on redistricting

07/29/2003

By GROMER JEFFERS JR. and WAYNE SLATER / The Dallas Morning News

AUSTIN – Eleven Senate Democrats bolted the state Monday rather than report for a second special legislative session ordered by Gov. Rick Perry in an increasingly bitter battle over congressional redistricting.

In a walkout mirroring the action by House Democrats in May, the senators boycotted the chamber, slipped out of the Capitol and boarded a pair of private jets to Albuquerque, N.M.

"Today, we 11 Democratic senators have availed ourselves of the tool granted to us under the Texas Constitution to break a quorum of the Texas Senate. This is not an action we take lightly," said Sen. Leticia Van de Putte, D-San Antonio, as the lawmakers took up residence at an Albuquerque Marriott hotel. "We didn't want to be here."

They were greeted by New Mexico's Democratic Lt. Gov. Diane Denish and several New Mexico state troopers on hand to provide protection – an apparent outgrowth of attempts by Republican leaders to deploy Texas Department of Public Safety officers to retrieve House members from Ardmore, Okla., in May during a similar protest.

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"Without question, we did the right thing," Sen. Royce West of Dallas said of the walkout by all but one of the Senate Democrats. "We're playing by the rules. When the other side doesn't play by the rules, you have to find other solutions to deal with it."

Mr. West said he is prepared to stay away for 30 days if necessary to kill the redistricting effort by denying the 31-member Senate the quorum it needs to do business.

With the lawmakers on the run, the secretary of the Senate issued a warrant for their arrest. But it was unclear that officials had the authority to round up the senators outside the state.

"I'm very, very disappointed," said Lt. Gov. David Dewhurst, a Republican. "Our Senate Democrats are putting their party affiliation over what they were elected to do."

Monday's escape was carefully planned and specifically timed to avoid any effort by the Republican leadership to keep lawmakers from fleeing Austin.

At midday Monday, Senate Democrats huddled in a third-floor conference room adjacent to the Senate chamber.

Mr. Dewhurst met twice with the group, appealing for them to work with Republicans on what he called a "fair" redrawing of congressional boundaries.

When Mr. Dewhurst left the room the second time to convene the day's Senate session, a cluster of reporters followed him. The senators then left the conference room and headed downstairs to waiting cars bound for the airport, where two private jets awaited. They belonged to constituents of Sen. Juan Hinojosa of McAllen – the David Rogers and Joe LaMantia families. Mr. Hinojosa said the transportation would be regarded as an in-kind contribution to the Democratic caucus.

"I didn't even know where we were going until we got on the plane," said Sen. Mario Gallegos Jr. of Houston.

New session

Without the 11 senators on hand, Mr. Dewhurst could not muster a quorum and adjourned the special session. The House followed suit, adjourning the session. Within minutes, Mr. Perry summoned lawmakers back immediately for a second 30-day special session.

"The governor has the right to call a special session over and over again," said Sen. Florence Shapiro, R-Plano. "They can't stay away 30 days, 60 days, 90 days. They will return at some point."

Mr. Dewhurst also vowed that a redistricting plan would eventually be passed.

"If I read the tea leaves correctly, we will pass a fair redistricting plan now or later," Mr. Dewhurst said.

Republicans in Austin and in Washington have pushed the effort to redraw the boundaries for the state's 32 members of Congress to produce more GOP seats.

Led by U.S. House Majority Leader Tom DeLay of Sugar Land and the White House, the attempt would undo the current configuration in which Democrats outnumber Republicans, 17-15.

The first attempt to pass a congressional plan died during the regular legislative session when more than 50 House Democrats boycotted the chamber, breaking a quorum, with many heading to Ardmore.

With the first special session ending in failure Monday, Mr. Perry summoned lawmakers for a second special session.

Although both the House and Senate were to convene for business Tuesday, the absence of the Democrats will shut down the Senate, where Republicans have a 19-12 majority.

Getting a tan?

Mr. Dewhurst predicted the wayward Democrats "will lose the public relations battle" by traveling to a vacation spot.

Asked whether he considered Albuquerque a vacation destination, the lieutenant governor said, "I certainly think it's more of a vacation spot than Ardmore."

Ms. Van de Putte said Democrats chose Albuquerque because of available medical facilities that could aid Sen. Eddie Lucio of Brownsville, recuperating from a heart attack earlier this summer.

"Even though my doctor opposed it, I knew how important it was to have 11," Mr. Lucio said.

Ms. Van de Putte warned the Republican leadership against trying to arrest lawmakers. Democrats complain that proposed maps would dilute the influence of minority voters.

ESCAPING TO NEW MEXICO
Democratic state senators who left for Albuquerque on Monday:
Gonzalo Barrientos, Austin
Rodney Ellis, Houston
Mario Gallegos Jr., Houston
Juan "Chuy" Hinojosa, McAllen
Eddie Lucio Jr., Brownsville
Frank Madla Jr., San Antonio
Eliot Shapleigh, El Paso
Leticia Van de Putte, San Antonio
Royce West, Dallas
John Whitmire, Houston
Judith Zaffirini, Laredo

REMAINING IN AUSTIN:
Kenneth Armbrister, Victoria

"I think that would send a horrible message to the people of the state of Texas that their minority legislators are so opposed to the diminishment of voter rights for minorities that they did have to keep them locked up against their will," she said.

Senate rules require that two-thirds of the chamber support a bill before it can be taken up for debate. Mr. Dewhurst has said he would bypass the rule so that only a majority of senators would need to support a bill for it to be debated during a second special session on redistricting.

That vow and one by Mr. Perry to keep calling special sessions until a redistricting plan was approved drove the Democrats from the state, Ms. Van de Putte said.

"When the lieutenant governor said he wouldn't honor the two-thirds rule, we decided to break quorum," she said.

One stayed behind

Sen. Kenneth Armbrister of Victoria, the only Democrat who did not leave the chamber, said he did not judge those who left. He said he stayed because he wanted to ensure that rural Texas had a voice in the process.

The House has already approved a map, which could have given the GOP as many as 21 seats in the delegation.

The House sponsor of the redistricting bill said that he continues to negotiate with his Senate counterpart and is open to talking across party lines – but not long distance to New Mexico.

"I'm willing to work with anybody Republican or Democrat. We need to do our work at the Capitol, where it's in the public view – no shuttle diplomacy," said Rep. Phil King, R-Weatherford. "When you leave town, you're saying we are not interested in negotiation. We just want to kill the process."

Attorney General Greg Abbott suggested that the senators could be pursued across state lines, not necessarily by the DPS, but by the Senate sergeant-at-arms and his staff.

Mr. Abbott issued an opinion advising Mr. Dewhurst that the sergeant and his deputies have the legal authority to arrest AWOL members "wherever they may be found."

But, as a practical matter, Mr. Dewhurst said, the missing members are out of reach.

"The Texas Constitution does not apply here. They [DPS officers] have no jurisdiction," said Sen. John Whitmire of Houston. "We are protected by the laws and due process of New Mexico."

The senators' situation took center stage in a hearing Monday on a continuing court fight over state police authority to hunt the House members who fled earlier. Visiting State District Judge Charles Campbell, who had earlier issued a preliminary ruling that DPS has no power to hunt lawmakers, told lawyers that when he issues his final order it is unlikely to include a ban on hunting senators, since no senators were parties to the lawsuit.

Assistant Attorney General Jeff Boyd said he would advise the DPS that there's no legal reason the agency could not be used to hunt the senators within Texas. But an attorney for the Democrats disagreed.

Staff writers George Kuempel and Pete Slover in Austin and special contributor Zelie Pollon in New Mexico contributed to this report.

E-mail wslater@dallasnews.com


Online at: http://www.dallasnews.com/latestnews/stories/072903dntexredistrict.d42fd54e.html


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It just goes to show you that NO Democrat in Texas is above stooping to new lows to obstruct. Oh, excuse me, The [LIBERAL] Dallas Morning News calls it a 'boycott' so they can sell it as legitimate to their reading audience. Now we know the Texas 'RAT Senators are no better than the Texas House 'RATS.

Senate rules require that two-thirds of the chamber support a bill before it can be taken up for debate. Mr. Dewhurst has said he would bypass the rule so that only a majority of senators would need to support a bill for it to be debated during a second special session on redistricting.

That vow and one by Mr. Perry to keep calling special sessions until a redistricting plan was approved drove the Democrats from the state, Ms. Van de Putte said.

"When the lieutenant governor said he wouldn't honor the two-thirds rule, we decided to break quorum," she said.

So then when the Democrats didn't 'honor' that rule in 1992 to redraw the lines*, the 'RATS would have thought it was okay for the GOP to bolt, right ? < /MAJOR Sarcasm > The GOP stayed and played by the rules, to FIGHT for their constituents, NOT run away like children do when things don't go their way. I cannot express my thoughts and emotions on how this makes me feel. Just G-r-r-r! about sums it up, I guess.

"I'm willing to work with anybody Republican or Democrat. We need to do our work at the Capitol, where it's in the public view – no shuttle diplomacy," said Rep. Phil King, R-Weatherford. "When you leave town, you're saying we are not interested in negotiation. We just want to kill the process."

Attorney General Greg Abbott suggested that the senators could be pursued across state lines, not necessarily by the DPS, but by the Senate sergeant-at-arms and his staff.

Mr. Abbott issued an opinion advising Mr. Dewhurst that the sergeant and his deputies have the legal authority to arrest AWOL members "wherever they may be found."

But, as a practical matter, Mr. Dewhurst said, the missing members are out of reach.

So there are the options, I guess. The GOP can send agents to arrest these juvenile delinquents 'wherever they may be found' or just keep calling special sessions.

And, btw, are Texas taxpayers paying for these AWOL Senators vacation/dereliction of their constitutional duty ???

* I will document that in my links and excerpts references I will subquently post to this thread.


1 posted on 07/29/2003 3:57:31 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP
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To: yall
Here is a list of recent articles on Redistricting:

FR Search: Keyword "Redistricting"

07-28-2003
Session ends as 11 Democrats slip out
(Dem's Flee state again!)


07-26-2003
GOP effort to redraw districts is crushed
[Texas redistricting]


07-24-2003
Democrats may be free to flee - constitutionally protected, says lawyer


07-24-2003
As new Texas redistricting map offered,
Dewhurst says compromise is in the air


07-23-2003
Committee passes redistricting bill (Texas)


07-23-2003
Texas Republican Senators Forge Ahead on Congressional Redistricting Plans


07-19-2003
[Texas] Senators talk of boycotting any redistricting session

Mr. Dewhurst said he would be on solid ground in working around the Senate tradition requiring a two-thirds vote to take up a bill. The late Lt. Gov. Bob Bullock, a Democrat, did the same thing in a 1992 special session on legislative redistricting, Mr. Dewhurst said.

07-18-2003
New map, same pain for Dems
(Texas Redistricting fun)


07-17-2003
New map surfacing in Texas Senate


07-16-2003
Dewhurst at crossroads on redistricting in Texas Senate


07-15-2003
Ratliff joins Democrats to oppose redistricting

The state Republican Party was quick to point out that the [2/3rd’s] rule has been abandoned on occasion – such as when the Senate took up a state senatorial redistricting plan in 1992.

07-09-2003
DROP IT -- Redistricting would benefit few Texans, harm many
(Editorial)


07-08-2003
Senators have problems with House redistricting map - Texas redistricting


07-08-2003
House passes remap
Veteran Democrats may lose seats if bill goes through Senate


Above article is worthy of showing that a picture indeed is worth a thousand words:
First the Chicken D’s run away to Ardmore, Oklahoma. That didn’t work, so here they are,
still having a fit during the Redistricting debate:


As King began his argument for the new congressional boundaries Monday afternoon, about 30 Democrats in the gallery donned white socks as hand puppets to mock King. Every time he spoke, the little white mouths flapped.

07-07-2003
TEXAS REDISTRICTING--Vote TONIGHT!


07-07-2003
Race rhetoric stokes Texas redistricting fire


07-07-2003
Tension may soar as map debate hits House floor - Texas redistricting


07-06-2003
House panel quickly passes Republican redistricting plan -
map likely to unseat six Democrats


07-04-2003
New GOP map restores (Rep. Martin Frost's) district


07-03-2003
Republicans pull proposed map - redistricting


07-03-2003
Chamber of Commerce and GI Forum Hire Temps to Testify


07-02-2003
The Great Texas Power Grab - redistricting


07-01-2003
Tx Democrats Trying Fight, Not Flight, Over Districts
(The-Terrific-Texan-Special-Session)


2 posted on 07/29/2003 3:58:20 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (Bu-bye Dixie Chimps! / Coming Soon !: Freeper site on Comcast. Found the URL. Gotta fix it now.)
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To: yall
The OBSTRUCTORS:

Democratic state senators who left for Albuquerque on Monday:

Gonzalo Barrientos, Austin
Rodney Ellis, Houston
Mario Gallegos Jr., Houston
Juan "Chuy" Hinojosa, McAllen
Eddie Lucio Jr., Brownsville
Frank Madla Jr., San Antonio
Eliot Shapleigh, El Paso
Leticia Van de Putte, San Antonio
Royce West, Dallas
John Whitmire, Houston
Judith Zaffirini, Laredo



The ONE Democrat that stay to represent his constituents:

Kenneth Armbrister, Victoria


3 posted on 07/29/2003 4:04:26 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (Bu-bye Dixie Chimps! / Coming Soon !: Freeper site on Comcast. Found the URL. Gotta fix it now.)
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To: yall
Photos taken from the Texas Senators of the 78th Legislature website.

The 11 Obstructors:


Gonzalo Barrientos, Austin/Rodney Ellis, Houston/Mario Gallegos Jr., Houston


Juan "Chuy" Hinojosa, McAllen/Eddie Lucio Jr., Brownsville/Frank Madla Jr., San Antonio


Eliot Shapleigh, El Paso/Leticia Van de Putte, San Antonio/Royce West, Dallas


John Whitmire, Houston/Judith Zaffirini, Laredo


The Lone Democrat that is staying:


Kenneth Armbrister, Victoria

4 posted on 07/29/2003 4:34:36 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (Bu-bye Dixie Chimps! / Coming Soon !: Freeper site on Comcast. Found the URL. Gotta fix it now.)
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To: MeeknMing
A Question. These people have to return sometime. On their return cant they be arrested and held until after the special session is held? Thats right arrest them and hold them in a penitentiary and only allow them to go to the session.
5 posted on 07/29/2003 4:35:49 AM PDT by sgtbono2002
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To: MeeknMing
Every elected body in this country needs to be shut down by Republicans where they have the means to do it. They will not do it tho because I dont know of a better way to demonstrate that government is useless and more about elected officials than those who elect them.
The so called rule of law is going to lead to anarchy if both sides respond this way and this bunch in Texas is going have their way or shut the government down.
6 posted on 07/29/2003 4:37:18 AM PDT by gunnedah
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To: Dog Gone; deport
There are the 11 obstructors.

I have to take my car in to get it fixed right now. But when I get back here, I'm
going to write/e-mail them expressing my disgust with their obstructionism.

I believe there are e-mail links in that link I posted with the pics.


7 posted on 07/29/2003 4:40:32 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (Bu-bye Dixie Chimps! / Coming Soon !: Freeper site on Comcast. Found the URL. Gotta fix it now.)
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To: MeeknMing; Liz; Howlin; ALOHA RONNIE; RonDog
Mr. West said he is prepared to stay away for 30 days.

Run out the clock. The Republicans should be prepared to keep this going until Christmas, if needed.

The RATS will do this again. Time to play hardball...

8 posted on 07/29/2003 4:45:55 AM PDT by Libloather (Proud member of the Vast Right Wing Fatwa...)
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To: Squantos; Clinger; GeronL; Billie; Slyfox; San Jacinto; SpookBrat; FITZ; DainBramage; COB1; ...
There are pics on #4 of the 11 Democrat obstructors, and the ONE that stayed.
Perhaps the 11 obstructors would enjoy hearing from Freeper constituents ??



Please let me know if you want ON or OFF my Texas ping list!. . .don't be shy.
No, you don't HAVE to be a Texan to get on this list!


9 posted on 07/29/2003 4:48:45 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (Bu-bye Dixie Chimps! / Coming Soon !: Freeper site on Comcast. Found the URL. Gotta fix it now.)
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To: MeeknMing
I think it is time for the democrats to change their party emblem. They now need to have a chicken as their emblem, rather than a jacka$$. Seems like they are playing chicken, rather than stand and fight for their constitutients. One thing they have done is make my job while voting harder. I used to vote split ticket, depending on who better suited my stance on issues. After what the 51 dumbos did last session, I vowed to vote straight party Republican. Now, I have decided to go thru each race, and vote AGAINST any and every dumbocRAT on each and every race. IDIOTS!!!
10 posted on 07/29/2003 4:57:58 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (Clone Ann Coulter, the woman sent by God)
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To: MeeknMing
Who pays their expenses while they are "boycotting"?
11 posted on 07/29/2003 5:04:18 AM PDT by WhyisaTexasgirlinPA
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To: MeeknMing
Scum sucking Rats at Mariott, Paseo and I-25. New Mexico FReepers are trying to coordinate something on the loacl board.

It pisses me off that these jerks are using my state like some trashy drug-lords holing up in a third world country. BASTARDS!

12 posted on 07/29/2003 5:05:33 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: MeeknMing
I was listening to this story on the radio on the way to work this morning. The reporter said the Democrats were ready to run and hide from the redistricting issue as long as it took. My immediate thought was: why not continue to call special sessions right through the next election cycle? If they remain out of state their re-election efforts will be hurt big-time, and if they go back to Texas they can be herded into the assembly chamber for a quorum vote. I just hope the Texas Republicans have more balls then the Republicans in the U.S. Senate....
13 posted on 07/29/2003 5:11:06 AM PDT by whd23
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To: Squantos; Eaker; Shooter 2.5
Is it OK to despise these Texans?
14 posted on 07/29/2003 5:13:40 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Tijeras_Slim
It pisses me off that these jerks are using my state like some trashy drug-lords holing up in a third world country.

Drug lords are more respectable than these 'rat scum. Otherwise the comparison is apt.

15 posted on 07/29/2003 5:19:18 AM PDT by jimt
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To: Tijeras_Slim
Is it OK to despise these Texans?

I'm not a Texan, but I think "despise" is a bit too mild. Quit trying to be nice to the obstructioneers.

16 posted on 07/29/2003 5:22:40 AM PDT by dufekin (Eliminate genocidical terrorist miltiary dictator Kim Jong Il now.)
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To: Tijeras_Slim
Let me know what is going to happen ....I'll try to join you
17 posted on 07/29/2003 5:23:37 AM PDT by woofie
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To: MeeknMing
The Dimocratic Party goes out of power after over 100 years of having the majority. Dimocratic Party throws a big temper tantrum. That's it in a nutshell.
18 posted on 07/29/2003 5:26:23 AM PDT by Destructor
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To: MeeknMing
Austin Cowards: Interstate Men of Misery
Austin Cowards: The Guys Who Gagged Me
Austin Cowards: Holed-up Members

19 posted on 07/29/2003 5:29:23 AM PDT by Charles Henrickson (Don't Miss on Texas!)
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To: whd23
The media keeps reporting that a Senate "Rule" requires two thirds to take up a bill. Although two thirds are required for a quorum it only takes a majority to take up and pass a bill. The "Rule" refers to taking up a bill out of order, which requires a two thirds vote.

Because of this "Rule" a "Blocker" Bill is often introduced that is never taken up requiring any other bill to have two thirds vote to be taken up.

If Perry calls another Special Session it will be for redistricting only. No "Blocker" bill can be introduced and therefore no two thirds vote would be required.

All the Senate needs is 1 of the 11 missing Senators to be present to constitute a quorum, he/she doesn't have to vote for or against the bill.
20 posted on 07/29/2003 5:30:44 AM PDT by AndyMeyers
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To: MeeknMing
Lets call a special session of the "West of West Texas Senate Democrat Redisticting Caucus"
Im from Ft Worth so I speak a bit of Texan....anyone else know the language?
21 posted on 07/29/2003 5:45:23 AM PDT by woofie
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To: MeeknMing
I hope their repreated dereliction of duty will be remembered at the polls. Gosh, I bet Texans are getting sick and tired of this.
22 posted on 07/29/2003 5:45:52 AM PDT by pepperdog (God Bless and Protect our Troops)
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To: Tijeras_Slim
Is it OK to despise these Texans?

They are the talk of every radio show in Austin, Tx. today, and probably many all over Texas. Most callers are PO'ed at the 'RATS and are talking of never voting for these people again. My district had a 'RAT for judge some years ago, and was voted out about three years ago. I despise all 'RATS and will vote AGAINST all future 'RAT canditates, even if I have to vote for an Independent.

23 posted on 07/29/2003 5:56:20 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (Clone Ann Coulter, the woman sent by God)
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To: MeeknMing
the attempt would undo the current configuration in which Democrats outnumber Republicans, 17-15.

At least that's accurate: "configuration" indeed!

24 posted on 07/29/2003 6:08:08 AM PDT by JohnnyZ (Bumper sticker: "Keep honking -- I'm reloading")
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To: Tijeras_Slim
Is it OK to despise these Texans?

Yes, with all your heart and resoueces!!

Eaker

25 posted on 07/29/2003 6:13:14 AM PDT by Eaker (This is OUR country; let's take it back!!!!!)
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To: MeeknMing
http://www.kob.com/index.cfm?viewer=storyviewer&id=3229&cat=HOME

Texas Democratic lawmakers flee to Albuquerque to thwart redistricting

The Texas lawmakers held a press conference in Albuquerque Monday.

Last Update: 07/29/2003 6:57:52 AM
By: Associated Press

(Albuquerque-AP) -- Governor Richardson says he’s proud to welcome eleven Texas state senators to New Mexico.

Eleven of the 12 Democrats in the Texas Senate fled their state Monday for Albuquerque.

They’re protesting a second special session on congressional redistricting.

Their absence forced the adjournment of the first special legislative session a day early, without a congressional redistricting bill approved.

But Texas Governor Rick Perry immediately called lawmakers back for another session on redistricting.

Richardson says New Mexico has a long history of helping people on the run.

He says he’d be happy to show the Texas senators the sites of New Mexico, and treat them to some terrific New Mexican food.

In May, during the regular spring session, the Republicans tried to push redistricting toward a vote in the GOP-controlled state House, but 51 Democrats in that chamber fled across the state line to Oklahoma to block a quorum, killing the bill.
26 posted on 07/29/2003 6:17:17 AM PDT by ican'tbelieveit
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To: ican'tbelieveit
Governor Richardson says he’s proud to welcome eleven Texas state senators to New Mexico.

I would like to let everyone know that this clinton rumpswab pussbag is a kalifornia carpetbagger who moved here to cherrypick a congressonal district.

27 posted on 07/29/2003 6:19:34 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Tijeras_Slim
He has also been nominated to chair the 2004 national convention... I feel so bad for NM.

http://www.kob.com/index.cfm?viewer=storyviewer&id=3231&cat=HOME
28 posted on 07/29/2003 6:21:51 AM PDT by ican'tbelieveit
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To: Tijeras_Slim
It looks like the might be here awhile....time to plan a nice reception
29 posted on 07/29/2003 6:23:13 AM PDT by woofie
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To: Tijeras_Slim
Lets call a special session of the "West of West Texas Senate Democrat Redisticting Caucus"
Im from Ft Worth so I speak a bit of Texan....anyone else know the language?
30 posted on 07/29/2003 6:25:44 AM PDT by woofie
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To: MeeknMing
Where can we get the info on who is paying for their stay at the Marriott, and at the HI in Ardmore? How much did it cost the state for both sets of defections?
31 posted on 07/29/2003 6:29:14 AM PDT by mathluv
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To: MeeknMing
The only reason Armbrister stayed behind is so he won't be voted out next time around, IMO. They all need to go ... I'm tired of these idiots wasting my tax dollars!!!! >:(
32 posted on 07/29/2003 6:32:24 AM PDT by al_c
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To: WhyisaTexasgirlinPA
Who pays their expenses while they are "boycotting"?

I would say you and I, but since you're still in PA, then it's just us Texans that haven't flown the coop. ;o)

33 posted on 07/29/2003 6:34:34 AM PDT by al_c
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To: MeeknMing
My sign at the Freep of these morons will read.

"The Yellow Foes of Teaxas should go home."

34 posted on 07/29/2003 6:37:19 AM PDT by Pistolshot
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To: CindyDawg; All
CD ... you get hold of your reps office (Eddie Lucio Jr. ?)and let them have it. These idiots need to know their constituents are mad as hell.

Anyone else that lives in these districts needs to do the same. Thank God I live in the conservative northern part of the state.

35 posted on 07/29/2003 6:41:00 AM PDT by al_c
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To: al_c
I have just e-mailed our governor and Lt gov, asking them to stand up for redistricting. Of course, my state sen is RATliff, who is a huge RINO, and the reason we are still having this problem.
36 posted on 07/29/2003 6:44:35 AM PDT by mathluv
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To: WhyisaTexasgirlinPA
That's what I want to know.....are they taking a vacation on my tax dollar?
37 posted on 07/29/2003 6:45:37 AM PDT by mables
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To: MeeknMing
Democreeps voters BOLT to GOP.Only the stupid and socialists will vote Democreep in the next election.Texans deserve better than a bunch of cowards Dim-Wits.
38 posted on 07/29/2003 6:52:21 AM PDT by solo gringo (Always Ranting Always Rite)
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To: mables
are they taking a vacation on my tax dollar?

I think it's a safe bet to say "yes."

39 posted on 07/29/2003 6:54:17 AM PDT by al_c
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To: ican'tbelieveit
"Richardson says New Mexico has a long history of helping people on the run."

I have always been under the impression that harboring a fugitive was a crime.

40 posted on 07/29/2003 6:58:31 AM PDT by Ben Hecks
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To: MeeknMing
I certainly hope they are not drawing salaries while they play hooky from work. There must be some provision under Texas law to dock them their pay during these escapades.

All that time at the Marriott for all those vagabonds must be costing someone a pretty penny.

41 posted on 07/29/2003 6:59:19 AM PDT by KellyAdmirer
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To: MeeknMing
"Today, we 11 Democratic senators have availed ourselves of the tool granted to us under the Texas Constitution to break a quorum of the Texas Senate".

A quorum is not a tool. It is a protection of the people’s rights! Quorums are designed to insure that the people's voice will be heard during legislation by insuring that a majority of legislators are present during debate and voting. Should disease or other disasters keep legislators from the capitol the quorum keeps the minority from passing legislation during the absence. The quorum also protects the peoples rights by compelling a majority of legislators to be present, preventing the legislators from being lazy or lackadaisical in their duties.

A quorum is not a tool, it is a protection of the people's rights and these Senators are abusing this legal protection.

42 posted on 07/29/2003 7:05:28 AM PDT by Between the Lines
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To: MeeknMing
They may think they are saving dem seats in the house and senate but in all actuality they are hurting ANY dems reelection, or election, chances by doing this a second time.

Obstructionists is a very accurate term for these people.

43 posted on 07/29/2003 7:10:18 AM PDT by Just another Joe (FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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To: Tijeras_Slim
I've only got one thing to say to those dirtbags.

GET THE HELL OUT OF MY STATE AND GO DO YOUR F****** JOB!

I'm tired of this petty crap.

44 posted on 07/29/2003 7:13:25 AM PDT by CougarGA7
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To: AndyMeyers
Most excellent, consise...well stated analysis.....please keep us apprised of your thoughts on this matter...regards
45 posted on 07/29/2003 7:14:58 AM PDT by ken5050
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To: mables; WhyisaTexasgirlinPA; mathluv
I'm not sure if they are getting help for some other source to cover expenses while on the lam. They are paid $600 a month and a per diem [$95 or so, I think] and mileage during sessions or business.... Some other group political group maybe kicking in some money, who knows.

It has been reported that the cost of a special session is some $1.8 million.
46 posted on 07/29/2003 7:15:57 AM PDT by deport
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To: mathluv
Just curious..do you have access to the last election results for these 11....are any of them close to vulnerable, or are all the districts safe?...
47 posted on 07/29/2003 7:17:09 AM PDT by ken5050
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To: Tijeras_Slim
It reminds me of that Cybil Shepard commercial when she would say, "Don't hate me because I'm beautiful". Someone would yell at the TV, "No, we hate you beause you're a vain, egotistical bitch".

It's the same with this one. We don't hate them because they're Texans. We hate them because they're cowardly, obstructionist dems. They're costing the state millions of dollars because of their selfish actions.

The dem party loves spending taxpayer's money for their whims.
48 posted on 07/29/2003 7:24:40 AM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (Don't punch holes in the lifeboat)
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To: MeeknMing
There is something seriously wrong when 2 opposing sides can *both* declare that they are following "the law". I am not smart enough to figure his out. I would appreciate some help with this.
49 posted on 07/29/2003 7:25:47 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: Tijeras_Slim
Is it OK to despise these Texans?

These aren't Texans.

REMEMBER THE ALAMO!
REMEMBER ARDMORE AND ALBUQUERQUE?
REAL TEXANS
DON'T RUN AWAY

50 posted on 07/29/2003 7:31:14 AM PDT by DrewsDad
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