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PARTIAL BIRTH ABORTION BAN - THE BETRAYAL IS NOW COMPLETE [BARF ALERT - ANTI-GOP PROPAGANDA]
NewsWithViews.com ^ | May 9, 2003 | By David Brownlow

Posted on 08/02/2003 10:39:40 PM PDT by Uncle Bill

PARTIAL BIRTH ABORTION BAN - THE BETRAYAL IS NOW COMPLETE

NewsWithViews.com
By David Brownlow
May 9, 2003
Source

A politician would have a hard time finding a more loyal special interest group than with those of us who oppose the legalized child killing industry. For the last thirty years of the war on the unborn, we have worked tirelessly to elect pro-life, mostly Republican, politicians.

Our loyalty was so strong that even though the Republicans failed to deliver us a single pro-life victory, we continued to send them back to Washington year after year. For thirty years, we trusted the Republicans when they told us to be patient, because they had a plan and a party platform that said abortion was wrong.

We now know that everything they told us was a complete pack of lies.

We know that because the Senate has finally passed the long awaited "Partial Birth Abortion Ban," Senate Bill S.3. Rather than being a useful tool in the fight to stop a barbaric and indefensible method of child killing, S.3 reads more like an instruction manual for abortionists.

In what can only be described as the mildest abortion restrictions that one could possibly put into words, Sec.1531 instructs the "doctor" to make sure and kill the child before "in the case of a head-first presentation, the entire fetal head is outside the body of the mother". Or "in the case of breech presentation", make sure the child is killed before "any part of the fetal trunk past the navel is outside the body of the mother". (Actual text of SB S.3 in quotes)

With toothless restrictions like that, it is highly unlikely that even a single life will be saved. The only thing this will do is to make sure all the children are killed before the "entire fetal head" or the "fetal trunk past the navel" is showing. We waited thirty years for this?

Excuse me for shouting, but IF THE HEAD IS ALMOST OUT OF THE MOTHER, WHY DO YOU HAVE TO KILL THE KID? Do we hate children so much that we cannot wait 10 more seconds for the child to be born? 42,000,000 children killed since 1973 and this is the best they could come up with. What kind of people have we been putting into office?

If Senate Bill S.3 was just plain bad legislation, we could almost forgive the politicians for their incompetence. But believe it or not, this bill gets even worse. It gets a lot worse.

Not content to just write a watered down, sorry excuse for an abortion ban, the Senate goes on in Sec. 4, to let us all know "The Sense on the Senate Concerning Roe. v. Wade". I am not sure what kind of sense these people have, but we have definitely found out what we get for thirty years of loyalty. The 48 Republican Senators who voted to approve S.3, pledged that,

You need to read that again. I've read it about 20 times and it still hurts to look at it.

Please understand that it was not just a few renegade Senators who voted for this. It was 48 Republican Senators, including every one of them who ever told us they were pro-life, who put their name on a bill that says; Roe v. Wade was "appropriate." This is a clear, unambiguous reaffirmation of the illegal Supreme Court decision that started this whole mess back in 1973. If I had not read it for myself I would not believe it.

The extent of their betrayal is absolutely breath taking!

So now we know why the Republicans have gone thirty years without a single pro- life victory. These guys are not even pro-life! We have been fooling ourselves that somehow, despite all the evidence to the contrary, the years of partisan efforts were getting us closer to ending legalized abortion in America. But if the "sense" of the Senate is any indication, we have not even started the fight. We can now only hope that the House has enough sense to put S.3 out of it's misery.

A decades old policy of voting for the lesser of two evils has left us with a Republican Party that is a mere hollowed-out shell of its former self, broken beyond any hope of repair. The only way we are ever going to win this fight is by putting men and women of integrity into office who will not bow to the political pressures.

Clearly, the team we have in there now is not up to the task.


Partial- birth abortion ban hits snag over Roe v. Wade affirmation
"President Bush supports the ban, but there has been no indication if he would sign it into law if it included the Roe resolution."


S 3 ES

108th CONGRESS

1st Session

S. 3


AN ACT

To prohibit the procedure commonly known as partial-birth abortion.

SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.

SEC. 2. FINDINGS.

SEC. 3. PROHIBITION ON PARTIAL-BIRTH ABORTIONS.

`CHAPTER 74--PARTIAL-BIRTH ABORTIONS

`Sec. 1531. Partial-birth abortions prohibited

--1531'.

SEC. 4. SENSE OF THE SENATE CONCERNING ROE V. WADE.

Passed the Senate March 13, 2003.

Attest:

Secretary.

108th CONGRESS

1st Session

S. 3

AN ACT

To prohibit the procedure commonly known as partial-birth abortion.

END


Bush Signs Largest Family Planning Bill In U.S. History

Covenant News
Staff
January 11, 2002

On Thursday, January 10, 2002, the White House reported President Bush signed the ominous $15.4 billion foreign appropriations bill, H.R. 2506, for fiscal-year 2002. The bill authorizes $446.5 million U.S. tax dollars to be given to other countries for abortion- family planning activities throughout the world. The abortion-family planning funds approved by Bush represents an increase of $21.5 million over last year for international family planning.
[end of excerpt]
SOURCE

U.S. Quietly OKs Fetal Stem Cell Work - Bush allows funding despite federal limits on embryo use

White House killed human-cloning ban
Although President Bush has endorsed a complete ban on human cloning sponsored by senators Sam Brownback, R.-Kan., and Mary Landrieu, D.- La., White House lobbyists contacted Republican senators June 18 to ask them to vote that morning for cloture (a closing of debate to bring a legislative question to a vote) on the Senate's terrorism insurance bill (S 2600), thus preventing an up-or-down vote on a human cloning amendment that Brownback wanted to attach to the bill. His amendment would have banned the patenting of human embryos – effectively destroying any economic incentive for the experimental cloning of human beings."


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News
KEYWORDS: abortion; bush; gop; pbaban2003; republican
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To: Bellflower
"CHAPTER 74. PARTIAL-BIRTH ABORTIONS

‘‘Sec.

‘‘1531. Partial-birth abortions prohibited.

‘‘§ 1531. Partial-birth abortions prohibited

21 posted on 08/03/2003 12:33:32 AM PDT by Luis Gonzalez (Yo soy la Cuba libre.)
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To: Bellflower
What part of "partial birth abortions prohibited" do you not understand?
22 posted on 08/03/2003 12:34:11 AM PDT by Luis Gonzalez (Yo soy la Cuba libre.)
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To: omegatoo
Bill, the absolute POS that he is, is trying to divert attention away from a Bush victory.
23 posted on 08/03/2003 12:35:45 AM PDT by Luis Gonzalez (Yo soy la Cuba libre.)
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To: Uncle Bill
Busj promised to ban partial birth abortions, partial birth abortions have been banned.

Where's the betrayal you lying SOS?
24 posted on 08/03/2003 12:37:10 AM PDT by Luis Gonzalez (Yo soy la Cuba libre.)
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To: Uncle Bill
Are you a DU plant or something ?
25 posted on 08/03/2003 12:39:14 AM PDT by John Lenin
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To: Jim Robinson
Have you seen this?

Banning partial birth abortions (as promised) is a betrayal?


26 posted on 08/03/2003 12:39:29 AM PDT by Luis Gonzalez (Yo soy la Cuba libre.)
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To: John Lenin
Bill is worse than that, at least most people at DU are honestly stupid.
27 posted on 08/03/2003 12:40:07 AM PDT by Luis Gonzalez (Yo soy la Cuba libre.)
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To: Luis Gonzalez
I agree, and I'm happy to see this bill. It's not that I have any particular complaints about it, it's just that we have a long journey ahead of us to make abortion illegal, an even longer way to go to make all Americans see it for the evil that it is. This bill is a good start.
28 posted on 08/03/2003 12:42:19 AM PDT by gsrinok
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To: Uncle Bill
Are you president of the dementedly obtuse?

Your posted article is dated May 2003. Get current!

Partial birth murder has been banned.
29 posted on 08/03/2003 12:44:55 AM PDT by onyx (Name an honest democrat? I can't either!)
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To: Bellflower
We cannot vote for Bush anymore!

Bush can only the sign or not sign the bill as handed to him. Would rather he just not sign this bill at all?

30 posted on 08/03/2003 12:45:11 AM PDT by Jeff Gordon
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To: Luis Gonzalez
But Bill IS stupid.
Honestly.
31 posted on 08/03/2003 12:46:08 AM PDT by omegatoo
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To: Luis Gonzalez
It's part of the DNC plan, like when they call in to radio shows and act like conservatives to bash Bush. Like people are really that naieve to believe them.
32 posted on 08/03/2003 12:46:44 AM PDT by John Lenin
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To: gsrinok
"This bill is a good start."

And it's no betrayal.

What's funny about the abortion issue is that conservatives abandon all semblance of any support for State's rights, and demand that the Fedral government intervene.

The issue of abortion should be left to each individual State.

33 posted on 08/03/2003 12:55:03 AM PDT by Luis Gonzalez (Yo soy la Cuba libre.)
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To: Mercuria
Mercuria:

You wrote:

"And heartbreaking as it is for me to say this, neither does Mr. Santorum care. Nor, for that matter, any other Republican who tries to paint the possible passage of a clearly flawed and ineffectual bill - that will save not one child from this barbaric procedure - as a victory for anyone or anything but their campaign managers, who will no doubt use the blockage or passage of this bill to play upon the ignorance and gullibility of their constituents again during the next election go-round.

Oh, and so will the other side, btw, when they paint Republicans as "extremists" for producing an "anti-choice" bill to begin with, even though it in fact does nothing more than hint to abortionists that they themselves will have to get a little more creative in their "choice" on how to stay on the legal side of an elective PBA. I say if the Republicans are going to get trashed by the Democrats, they might as well get trashed for something real.

Fraud Republic has the utter gall to shut out the truth about S.3 as "propaganda", and then uses a soft-soaped pro-Pubbie spin and the spectre of brutalized unborn babies - none of whom will be rescued by this Potemkin PBA ban being bandied about - to prop up the GOP and S.3 as any way effective about this issue. And to add insult to injury, they "coincidentally" present a "new" (actually old) column about morality being problematic in the pro-life debate just hours after Uncle Bill's original post got pulled and he got booted."

Sorry, Mercuria, but I ain't buying it. You're gonna have to explain to me how this legislation is a sell out and how Mr. Santorum and the rest of the Republicans are putting one over on us. This bill looks like it calls for a jail term for any doctor performing a partial birth abortion.

34 posted on 08/05/2003 2:13:20 AM PDT by Jim Robinson (Conservative by nature... Republican by spirit... Patriot by heart... AND... ANTI-Liberal by GOD!)
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To: Mercuria; JohnHuang2; kattracks; jwalsh07; billbears; MissAmericanPie; Free_at_last_-2001; ...
What do y'all think? Is Mercuria right about this? Is Mr. Santorum putting one over on us? Have we been betrayed by the Republicans? Looks to me like this bill says any doctor that uses the so-called partial birth abortion procedure to kill a baby gets fined or goes to jail.
35 posted on 08/05/2003 2:43:42 AM PDT by Jim Robinson (Conservative by nature... Republican by spirit... Patriot by heart... AND... ANTI-Liberal by GOD!)
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To: Jim Robinson
Looks to me like this bill says any doctor that uses the so-called partial birth abortion procedure to kill a baby gets fined or goes to jail.

Seems clear cut to me too.

For years we have been trying to get partial birth abortions banned. Now, when it's finally happened, it's seen as a loss, a betrayal?

I can only imagine what those who are screaming the loudest about the passage of this bill would have said if a bill hadn't been passed.

I detect something more than dissatisfaction with this particular bill behind all of the wailing and gnashing of teeth.

36 posted on 08/05/2003 3:20:00 AM PDT by kattracks
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To: kattracks
"I detect something more than dissatisfaction with this particular bill behind all of the wailing and gnashing of teeth."


The author of this "material" is an '04 Constitution Party candidate for Congress from Oregon. Consequently, the motivation is anti-Republican propaganda.

http://www.davebrownlow.com/

A similar, if not exact, thread was pulled night before last. You might note the campaign page doesn't show up in the link posted.
37 posted on 08/05/2003 3:55:08 AM PDT by windchime
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To: windchime
The background of the author explains the splashy title of the article and post.

I'm asking for mercy on those who would get righteously indignant on this topic - the killing of babies. Compassion is deeply spiritual and always emotional, even to the point of righteous anger. Some of us DO understand that there are necessary political strategies, and timings, and an opposing group. But based on the topic, consider mercy for why there is blindness in this area, where some don't want to appear to compromise. I think they're blinded and swayed by the deep compassion that rises - it rises in all of us, especially on this topic. I'm not condoning poor judgement.

Just something to consider. spoken as a minister

38 posted on 08/05/2003 4:23:49 AM PDT by bets
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To: cricket
The fact is, we need more and 'better' Republicans on board to help pull the boat here and get it to 'safe harbor'.

That may be. The fact is, a lot of things that have passed...more aid to education, prescription drugs, AIDS money to Africa, etc....would've been strenuously fought by the Republicans if Clinton were still President.

This abortion bill from the Senate might be awful. But, it's a first step. I don't see how anyone can explain why GWB didn't sit the HOR and Senate down, quickly, after it was passed, and get something. The fact that something is signed (even if imperfect) would be a powerful message that this country cares about life. Instead, GWB went to the Mideast, then Africa, now it's summer recess. It will not be acceptable to say in September. Ooops....too late....wait for the next election.

39 posted on 08/05/2003 4:32:40 AM PDT by grania ("Won't get fooled again")
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To: onyx
Partial birth murder has been banned.

Am I mistaken? I thought that the Senate and HOR hadn't gotten together on one bill to be signed yet, and until that happens PBA is not banned.

40 posted on 08/05/2003 4:37:12 AM PDT by grania ("Won't get fooled again")
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