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CA: Desert Cop Killer, Units Converging
local area tactical scanner | August 8, 2003

Posted on 08/08/2003 10:46:55 AM PDT by lainie

ATTENTION

Big doins right now on high desert ATAC. They're surrounding a house in the vicinity of 200 ST E and AVE R.

"be advised we've got no cover and are sitting ducks if he's scoping us.."

"we need more units!"

They're surprising the location.

Sounds like they might think they got him, getting SB involved.

Air ship on scene.


TOPICS: US: California
KEYWORDS: keuck; kueck; sorensen
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For those of you who've been following this story.

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1 posted on 08/08/2003 10:46:56 AM PDT by lainie
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Real Player. Sorry about the off & on quality.
2 posted on 08/08/2003 10:49:02 AM PDT by lainie
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To: lainie
An APC makes for dandy cover.
3 posted on 08/08/2003 10:49:09 AM PDT by Lazamataz (PROUDLY POSTING WITHOUT READING THE ARTICLE SINCE 1999!)
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To: Lazamataz
They seem to be really spread out in the middle of the desert. A few of them are coverless but they ought to at least have their vehicles.
4 posted on 08/08/2003 10:53:13 AM PDT by lainie
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To: lainie
It seems like the house would be wise by now -- helicopters circling around.

Earlier they described "friendlies" in the house. I don't know how they'd know this. Maybe an informant?
5 posted on 08/08/2003 10:58:45 AM PDT by lainie
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To: lainie
If you have your vehicle, you have cover. Engine blocks are reasonable cover but are NOT 100%.
6 posted on 08/08/2003 10:59:28 AM PDT by Lazamataz (PROUDLY POSTING WITHOUT READING THE ARTICLE SINCE 1999!)
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To: Lazamataz
A "friendly" should be leaving shortly to drive out to the CP. Has to be an informant.
7 posted on 08/08/2003 11:01:50 AM PDT by lainie
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To: lainie
HAs to be. Leaving within a minute.
8 posted on 08/08/2003 11:02:32 AM PDT by Bikers4Bush
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To: lainie
A "friendly" should be leaving shortly to drive out to the CP. Has to be an informant.

Or it could be someone who's just REALLY FRIENDLY.

9 posted on 08/08/2003 11:02:43 AM PDT by Lazamataz (PROUDLY POSTING WITHOUT READING THE ARTICLE SINCE 1999!)
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To: Bikers4Bush
"Friendlies"
10 posted on 08/08/2003 11:02:52 AM PDT by Bikers4Bush
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To: lainie
"we're not to contact the friendlies, let 'em drive out"

Hispanic family, let 'em drive out.
11 posted on 08/08/2003 11:03:16 AM PDT by lainie
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To: Lazamataz
They're in contact via phone so I'm making assumptions. If that's the case my other assumption is that they really think they have the perp.
12 posted on 08/08/2003 11:05:02 AM PDT by lainie
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To: lainie
well, they're in contact somehow. Guess I can't assume it's via phone.
13 posted on 08/08/2003 11:05:33 AM PDT by lainie
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To: lainie
Could you please indicate where this is taking place?

Thanks
14 posted on 08/08/2003 11:06:26 AM PDT by 2oakes (US citizen, ex-brit, and VERY glad of it)
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To: lainie
Real player sucks...any other links
15 posted on 08/08/2003 11:07:29 AM PDT by MD_Willington_1976
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To: MD_Willington_1976
Sorry, it's what we have access to.

Someone from the original thread posted this page, might find something there:

This is 483.0875 ATAC

16 posted on 08/08/2003 11:09:32 AM PDT by lainie
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To: lainie
friendlies moving, turquoise van tinted windows.
17 posted on 08/08/2003 11:10:05 AM PDT by Bikers4Bush
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To: 2oakes
East of Palmdale, California -- vicinity of 200th Street East and Avenue R.
18 posted on 08/08/2003 11:10:28 AM PDT by lainie
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To: All
This is hopefully the denouement of the original story -- from last Saturday
19 posted on 08/08/2003 11:12:43 AM PDT by lainie
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To: lainie
Thanks

Wanted to get aerial photo of area:

http://www.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp?location=Ha8QCJqJCu2WU35jer7In%2f6MVJkV0iZViXDVwPvkrijkD0oYzsO0dLPMnO31ePrJkIjz32a9B7Ug%2bslXfLM0pGB5BTmADOzyyUaV2pGcIhYA%2biIFugqT%2b4hpFDr0BlBg&address=200th%20Street%20East%20&city=Palmdale&state=CA&country=US
20 posted on 08/08/2003 11:12:59 AM PDT by 2oakes (US citizen, ex-brit, and VERY glad of it)
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To: MD_Willington_1976
Real player is working fine for me (I'm on a Mac).

I, too, would like to know where this is taking place.

21 posted on 08/08/2003 11:13:13 AM PDT by basil
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Dark haired male seen walking on west side of property
22 posted on 08/08/2003 11:13:27 AM PDT by lainie
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To: basil
#18
23 posted on 08/08/2003 11:13:58 AM PDT by lainie
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To: lainie
The suspect's picture


24 posted on 08/08/2003 11:17:52 AM PDT by lainie
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To: 2oakes
This would be twenty miles due east of Palmdale Ca.
25 posted on 08/08/2003 11:21:00 AM PDT by stumpy
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To: lainie
Property owner says all friendlies are out
No one else to his knowledge should be there (but someone is)
Might be our guy; might just be another desert transient


Air unit is now attempting contact with announcement
He is not acknowledging
Treating as barricade situation
Locking down are roads
26 posted on 08/08/2003 11:21:48 AM PDT by lainie
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To: stumpy
Thanks - the aerial photo below seems to fit well..

http://www.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp?location=Ha8QCJqJCu2WU35jer7In%2f6MVJkV0iZViXDVwPvkrijkD0oYzsO0dLPMnO31ePrJkIjz32a9B7Ug%2bslXfLM0pGB5BTmADOzyyUaV2pGcIhYA%2biIFugqT%2b4hpFDr0BlBg&address=200th%20Street%20East%20&city=Palmdale&state=CA&country=US
27 posted on 08/08/2003 11:22:17 AM PDT by 2oakes (US citizen, ex-brit, and VERY glad of it)
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To: lainie
Dude's running on foot?
28 posted on 08/08/2003 11:22:29 AM PDT by lainie
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a family called 911 to say "some guy's living in our shed?" (PURE SPECULATION)
29 posted on 08/08/2003 11:25:37 AM PDT by lainie
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They're confirming that no one should be there at this time -- no repairmen, no visitors, etc.
30 posted on 08/08/2003 11:27:36 AM PDT by lainie
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To: lainie
Any idea what freq L-tac is?
31 posted on 08/08/2003 11:28:35 AM PDT by Not now, Not ever! (10101100)
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To: Not now, Not ever!
L-TAC 11 is 483.1875
32 posted on 08/08/2003 11:31:06 AM PDT by lainie
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To: lainie
male, dark shirt, dark hair; walked around the property after the friendlies' van had departed
33 posted on 08/08/2003 11:32:16 AM PDT by lainie
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To: lainie
Gee I wonder why there isn't this sort of activity when an lowly ordinary citizen is killed? < / sarcasm>
34 posted on 08/08/2003 11:33:18 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your enemy, and Bush is no conservative)
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The guy they're seeing looks like he has a "glass eye" according to one LEO.

Suspect has a "lazy" eye, with tattoo underneath it, according to another.
35 posted on 08/08/2003 11:35:22 AM PDT by lainie
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"want to shut down x, and x, and x for traffic?"

"Shut down everything."
36 posted on 08/08/2003 11:37:36 AM PDT by lainie
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To: lainie
A face that only a mother could love ? He looks like the Fuller Brush salesman knocking on my door yesterday with that 1,000 yard stare .
37 posted on 08/08/2003 11:39:51 AM PDT by Ben Bolt
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To: BenLurkin; dorben; RGSpincich; Johnny Gage; jdontom; TERMINATTOR; ArmstedFragg; Riley; ...
ping
38 posted on 08/08/2003 11:43:32 AM PDT by lainie
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To: dorben
I wish I could find a better picture. I know I heard LEO last weekend telling each other he was a "second striker." Whether that means this is third, or he only had one before the incident, I don't know.
39 posted on 08/08/2003 11:44:32 AM PDT by lainie
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To: lainie
A quick glance around the news wires brought this to my attention:

Slain deputy was feuding with town council, had filed suit alleging intimidation

40 posted on 08/08/2003 11:51:30 AM PDT by lainie
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To: lainie
3rd strike is automatic life if I total recall . This perp might want to go down .. suicide by cop .
41 posted on 08/08/2003 11:51:35 AM PDT by Ben Bolt
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To: lainie
CP moving to Mt. Carmel
units en route from "down below" -- what we call L.A. area
42 posted on 08/08/2003 11:56:39 AM PDT by lainie
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To: dorben
Certainly could happen. He is rumored to have the deputy's firearm AND radio.
43 posted on 08/08/2003 11:57:27 AM PDT by lainie
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To: lainie
Fascinating link. Hmmm...
44 posted on 08/08/2003 11:59:02 AM PDT by Riley
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To: lainie
Any portable radio would by now have a dead battery.

Unless the suspect had facilities to charge it, not likely that the officer had that with him at the time he was killed.

45 posted on 08/08/2003 12:00:18 PM PDT by Not now, Not ever! (10101100)
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To: lainie
And the plot thickens ! The officer said the media is not welcome bump .
46 posted on 08/08/2003 12:01:40 PM PDT by Ben Bolt
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"those news guys are definately not welcome on the property."

"yes sir, I had the pleasure of telling them that myself."

ha!
47 posted on 08/08/2003 12:01:47 PM PDT by lainie
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To: Not now, Not ever!
Yes you're right of course. Not likely at all. He's been on the run afaik.
48 posted on 08/08/2003 12:02:23 PM PDT by lainie
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Wonder what's the significance of the LEO who left his patrol car roadside to get into the chopper? Wonder who he is.
49 posted on 08/08/2003 12:03:15 PM PDT by lainie
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To: lainie
Did we just get busted? "someone's trying to listen in"
50 posted on 08/08/2003 12:06:20 PM PDT by Not now, Not ever! (10101100)
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