CA: Desert Cop Killer, Units Converging

local area tactical scanner | August 8, 2003

[lainie]

ATTENTION

Big doins right now on high desert ATAC. They're surrounding a house in the vicinity of 200 ST E and AVE R.

"be advised we've got no cover and are sitting ducks if he's scoping us.."

"we need more units!"

They're surprising the location.

Sounds like they might think they got him, getting SB involved.

Air ship on scene.

[lainie]

For those of you who've been following this story.

Audio patch (stream) -- live only, no archive

[lainie]

Real Player. Sorry about the off & on quality.

[Lazamataz]

An APC makes for dandy cover.

[lainie]

They seem to be really spread out in the middle of the desert. A few of them are coverless but they ought to at least have their vehicles.

[lainie]

It seems like the house would be wise by now -- helicopters circling around.

Earlier they described "friendlies" in the house. I don't know how they'd know this. Maybe an informant?

[Lazamataz]

If you have your vehicle, you have cover. Engine blocks are reasonable cover but are NOT 100%.

[lainie]

A "friendly" should be leaving shortly to drive out to the CP. Has to be an informant.

[Bikers4Bush]

HAs to be. Leaving within a minute.

[Lazamataz]

A "friendly" should be leaving shortly to drive out to the CP. Has to be an informant.

Or it could be someone who's just REALLY FRIENDLY.

[Bikers4Bush]

"Friendlies"

[lainie]

"we're not to contact the friendlies, let 'em drive out"

Hispanic family, let 'em drive out.

[lainie]

They're in contact via phone so I'm making assumptions. If that's the case my other assumption is that they really think they have the perp.

[lainie]

well, they're in contact somehow. Guess I can't assume it's via phone.

[2oakes]

Could you please indicate where this is taking place?

Thanks

[MD_Willington_1976]

Real player sucks...any other links

[lainie]

Sorry, it's what we have access to.

Someone from the original thread posted this page, might find something there:

This is 483.0875 ATAC

[Bikers4Bush]

friendlies moving, turquoise van tinted windows.

[lainie]

East of Palmdale, California -- vicinity of 200th Street East and Avenue R.

[lainie]

This is hopefully the denouement of the original story -- from last Saturday

[2oakes]

Thanks

Wanted to get aerial photo of area:

http://www.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp?location=Ha8QCJqJCu2WU35jer7In%2f6MVJkV0iZViXDVwPvkrijkD0oYzsO0dLPMnO31ePrJkIjz32a9B7Ug%2bslXfLM0pGB5BTmADOzyyUaV2pGcIhYA%2biIFugqT%2b4hpFDr0BlBg&address=200th%20Street%20East%20&city=Palmdale&state=CA&country=US

[basil]

Real player is working fine for me (I'm on a Mac).

I, too, would like to know where this is taking place.

[lainie]

Dark haired male seen walking on west side of property

[lainie]

#18

[lainie]

The suspect's picture

[stumpy]

This would be twenty miles due east of Palmdale Ca.

[lainie]

Property owner says all friendlies are out
No one else to his knowledge should be there (but someone is)
Might be our guy; might just be another desert transient


Air unit is now attempting contact with announcement
He is not acknowledging
Treating as barricade situation
Locking down are roads

[2oakes]

Thanks - the aerial photo below seems to fit well..

http://www.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp?location=Ha8QCJqJCu2WU35jer7In%2f6MVJkV0iZViXDVwPvkrijkD0oYzsO0dLPMnO31ePrJkIjz32a9B7Ug%2bslXfLM0pGB5BTmADOzyyUaV2pGcIhYA%2biIFugqT%2b4hpFDr0BlBg&address=200th%20Street%20East%20&city=Palmdale&state=CA&country=US

[lainie]

Dude's running on foot?

[lainie]

a family called 911 to say "some guy's living in our shed?" (PURE SPECULATION)

[lainie]

They're confirming that no one should be there at this time -- no repairmen, no visitors, etc.

[Not now, Not ever!]

Any idea what freq L-tac is?

[lainie]

L-TAC 11 is 483.1875

[lainie]

male, dark shirt, dark hair; walked around the property after the friendlies' van had departed

[from occupied ga]

Gee I wonder why there isn't this sort of activity when an lowly ordinary citizen is killed? < / sarcasm>

[lainie]

The guy they're seeing looks like he has a "glass eye" according to one LEO.

Suspect has a "lazy" eye, with tattoo underneath it, according to another.

[lainie]

"want to shut down x, and x, and x for traffic?"

"Shut down everything."

[dorben]

A face that only a mother could love ? He looks like the Fuller Brush salesman knocking on my door yesterday with that 1,000 yard stare .

[lainie]

ping

[lainie]

I wish I could find a better picture. I know I heard LEO last weekend telling each other he was a "second striker." Whether that means this is third, or he only had one before the incident, I don't know.

[lainie]

A quick glance around the news wires brought this to my attention:

Slain deputy was feuding with town council, had filed suit alleging intimidation

[dorben]

3rd strike is automatic life if I total recall . This perp might want to go down .. suicide by cop .

[lainie]

CP moving to Mt. Carmel
units en route from "down below" -- what we call L.A. area

[lainie]

Certainly could happen. He is rumored to have the deputy's firearm AND radio.

[Riley]

Fascinating link. Hmmm...

[Not now, Not ever!]

Any portable radio would by now have a dead battery.

Unless the suspect had facilities to charge it, not likely that the officer had that with him at the time he was killed.

[dorben]

And the plot thickens ! The officer said the media is not welcome bump .

[lainie]

"those news guys are definately not welcome on the property."

"yes sir, I had the pleasure of telling them that myself."

ha!

[lainie]

Yes you're right of course. Not likely at all. He's been on the run afaik.

[lainie]

Wonder what's the significance of the LEO who left his patrol car roadside to get into the chopper? Wonder who he is.

[Not now, Not ever!]

Did we just get busted? "someone's trying to listen in"