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Homelessness grows as more live check-to-check
USA Today ^ | 8/12/03 | Stephanie Armour

Posted on 08/12/2003 7:04:53 AM PDT by Gothmog

Edited on 04/13/2004 1:41:03 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

Homelessness in major cities is escalating as more laid-off workers already living paycheck-to-paycheck wind up on the streets or in shelters.

As Americans file for bankruptcy in record numbers and credit card debt explodes, more workers are a paycheck away from losing their homes. Now the frail economy is pushing them over the edge. With 9 million unemployed workers in July, the face of homelessness is changing to include more families shaken by joblessness.


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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
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To: LibertyAndJusticeForAll
Bush can't do anything about unemployment.
51 posted on 08/12/2003 7:39:44 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Be Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
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To: Alberta's Child
Funny. I was just stating the truth, I myself come from a upper class family, but have always remember what my grandmother funkhouser told me, "the world was built for the stupid."
52 posted on 08/12/2003 7:39:48 AM PDT by samuel_adams_us
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To: Gothmog
In San Francisco, the city reports that the homeless population in 2002 was 8,640, an 18% rise over 2001.

In a city of how many millions?? Please.

Nearly a quarter of Americans would be late on mortgages, rent or other bills if a single paycheck were delayed, according to a 2003 poll by Automatic Data Processing

Well then, save some money for a rainy day. If you spend 100% of your paycheck, you are living above your means.

53 posted on 08/12/2003 7:40:07 AM PDT by jrp
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To: AppyPappy
There you go again, showing that high emotional intellect.
54 posted on 08/12/2003 7:40:24 AM PDT by samuel_adams_us
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To: Tokhtamish
No, the news is based on a report by a bunch of (mostly) lib dem mayors with the political purpose of attacking Bush. Whatever facts included have been manipulated and are therefore not credible.

Instead of whining about me doing your thinking for you, why don't you ask the mayors who put this bogus report together to face the facts and solve homelessness if it is such a big problem for them. If it's anyone's job, it's theirs.

55 posted on 08/12/2003 7:40:56 AM PDT by Gothmog
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To: Gothmog
What do you call it went the Governments take 40% to 50% of your income?
56 posted on 08/12/2003 7:41:03 AM PDT by comnet
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To: Alberta's Child
I would venture to guess that most of the people you refer to as "the rich folks here" aren't really rich at all.

Rich is anyone who's got the good wisdom to live on less than they make and have a little money in savings.

57 posted on 08/12/2003 7:41:58 AM PDT by tdadams
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To: samuel_adams_us

Actually the statistics are true, last night in Denver bush only had 350 supporters show up for his benefit, only 1 million raised and there were over 4000 protesters outside with signs that read, "Where is my job?". Open your eyes and your ears and pay attention to your fellow man.


Sammy, after reading the Dever Post article, it dawned on my what a piece of feces you must be. You lied on purpose! That's so disgusting. That is the main reason you liberals are so lost in the world today. There is nothing -NOTHING- honest about you people. 4000 protesters! PLEASE! And the group inside with Bush were INVITED. I thought your breed where appalled at lies (tee-hee). Go pray for forgiveness.
58 posted on 08/12/2003 7:43:10 AM PDT by whereasandsoforth (tagged for migratory purposes only)
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To: samuel_adams_us
I myself come from a upper class family, but have always remember what my grandmother funkhouser told me, "the world was built for the stupid."

I myself did not come from an upper-class family, and I don't have any patience for people who react to every bump in the road of life by calling on the government to fix their situation for them.

The world may have been built for the stupid, but it sure wasn't built by them. If people were more interested in building the world than in having it built for them to their own specs, they would be far more successful.

59 posted on 08/12/2003 7:44:22 AM PDT by Alberta's Child
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To: tdadams
Actually from what I have always been told, wealthy means a person who lives well within their means and has made their money in an ethical way. Rich means someone who has screwed anyone and everyone to acquire what they have.
60 posted on 08/12/2003 7:44:27 AM PDT by samuel_adams_us
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To: whereasandsoforth
Listen, my family has been here since 1609, and I bow to nobody, including you, including the president, so go find a nice corner with the rest of the illbred trash and hump yourself.
61 posted on 08/12/2003 7:45:47 AM PDT by samuel_adams_us
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To: samuel_adams_us
At least I didn't turn 100 protesters into 4000
62 posted on 08/12/2003 7:46:08 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Be Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
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To: AppyPappy
I didn't either, was taking it from a radio station quote this morning. I already stated that, so remember what you read and if I am wrong then I will admit it.
63 posted on 08/12/2003 7:47:00 AM PDT by samuel_adams_us
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To: samuel_adams_us
so go find a nice corner with the rest of the illbred trash and hump yourself.

There you go again, showing that high emotional intellect.

64 posted on 08/12/2003 7:49:54 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Be Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
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To: AppyPappy
The U.S. Constitution grants Congress the power to "regulate commerce". And, Bush was given Fast Track authority by Congress.

Our gigantic trade deficit is evidence that they are not regulating commerce very well. Our small and mid-sized manufacturing firms are going out of business because they cannot compete with cheap products from China. China's Yuan is 40% devalued. China is not engaging in fair trade.
Offshoring, illegals, and visa workers are negatively impacting Americans, because all involve employing non-Americans over Americans.
The Bush team needs to address all of this, but they are just ignoring it.
65 posted on 08/12/2003 7:50:22 AM PDT by LibertyAndJusticeForAll
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To: Alberta's Child
If the world wasn't built by the stupid, then who in the heck built the great pyramids, the washington monument, I guess it must have been the American Medical Association right?
66 posted on 08/12/2003 7:50:56 AM PDT by samuel_adams_us
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To: samuel_adams_us
I believe you've been brainwashed and/or jaded by an inability to accumulate wealth (apart from that which you might inherit from your well-to-do family).
67 posted on 08/12/2003 7:51:44 AM PDT by tdadams
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To: AppyPappy
just stating the facts
68 posted on 08/12/2003 7:52:24 AM PDT by samuel_adams_us
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To: LibertyAndJusticeForAll
It sounds like Congress needs to step in, not the President.
69 posted on 08/12/2003 7:52:28 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Be Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
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To: samuel_adams_us
You're right. All wealth comes from government. In fact there's a big pile of money that the nasty, evil, rich people have stolen!!! (/sarcasm off)

Wake up pal. The jobs section of my local newspaper (and I'll bet yours too) is full of job offerings. If you lost your job, look or train for another one. Don't expect government to bail you out. Businesses create jobs, not government bureaucrats. Thank god Bush is trying to cut taxes to let businesses expand. Vote for the candidates who are pro-business, not the ones who promise to take care of everyone.

70 posted on 08/12/2003 7:53:26 AM PDT by driftless ( For life-long happiness, learn how to play the accordion.)
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To: tdadams
Funny!
71 posted on 08/12/2003 7:53:39 AM PDT by samuel_adams_us
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To: samuel_adams_us
You could put a thousand stupid people in the desert, along with all the materials they need and detailed designs showing exactly how to build a pyramid. And guess what -- go back in ten thousand years, and you might find a billion people there but you won't find any sign of a pyramid.
72 posted on 08/12/2003 7:53:55 AM PDT by Alberta's Child
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To: samuel_adams_us
A certain church member who lived in a home like a palace, and who had
large holdings in real estate, and a good-sized bank account, was
accustomed to have worship with his family each morning as they began
the day. He usually read a portion of Scripture, and then prayed
fervently and earnestly for the poor and needy in his neighborhood, in
the community, and in parts far removed from his home. He prayed for
other things, of course, but the burden of his prayer each morning was
for those in need.

Enjoying every comfort himself, he, however, did nothing to help those
in need who lived near by. One morning after he had offered the usual
prayer for the destitute and the poor, his little son said to him, "Dad,
I wish I had your grain elevator."

"What in the world would you do with my grain elevator?" the father asked.

"If I had all the corn you have, Dad, I would answer some of your
prayers myself."

By C. L. Paddock

Source: Our Times, Copyright (c) February 1948, Pacific Press,
http://www.signstimes.com
73 posted on 08/12/2003 7:53:59 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Be Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
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To: driftless
I didn' say I was out of a job, tell that to the protesters, not me.
74 posted on 08/12/2003 7:54:18 AM PDT by samuel_adams_us
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To: Alberta's Child
Are you quoting this from experience?
75 posted on 08/12/2003 7:55:03 AM PDT by samuel_adams_us
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To: AppyPappy
That's a good one!
76 posted on 08/12/2003 7:55:50 AM PDT by samuel_adams_us
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To: driftless; samuel_adams_us
Good post, Driftless.

I'll point out that I'm in the process of starting a business myself. And I can assure everyone here that unless something dramatic changes, I will never hire a single employee. I have no problem paying someone a dollar for a dollar's worth of work. But when it costs me $1.50 to pay someone $1, it's pretty clear to me that there is something deeply flawed in this country's "business model."

77 posted on 08/12/2003 7:56:39 AM PDT by Alberta's Child
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To: samuel_adams_us
Yes.
78 posted on 08/12/2003 7:57:32 AM PDT by Alberta's Child
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To: tdadams
""Less than a year ago, Kimberly Brochu was expecting a baby and living with her husband and four children in an apartment in Winslow, Maine. Then her husband, Allen, was laid off from his painting job. People think we get homeless because we're irresponsible, but it's hard finding jobs,'' says Brochu, 29""

It's irresponsible to have 5 kids and trying to live off of a painting job.
79 posted on 08/12/2003 7:58:34 AM PDT by Ronaldus Magnus Reagan
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To: Gothmog
I pity the poor fools who spend money on things they don't need.

Why buy a 3000ft^2 home for $250,000, when you can live in a trailer home for $10,000.

Don't pay $30,000 for that sports car when you can get a used car for $2000 and drive it till it breaks in 2-3 yrs and get another used one.

I wonder what these fools will do when the US Fed Notes collapse and hyperinflation takes place.

I laugh at the fools who keep their money in the tech stocks and bonds, when the only bull market in town is happening in the precious metals market. (stealth gold bull market for the last three years)

I pity the poor fool who doesn't even have 5% of his wealth in gold/silver.

80 posted on 08/12/2003 7:58:44 AM PDT by Chewbacca (Stay out of debt. Pay cash. When you run out of cash, stop buying things.)
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To: Gothmog
These must be the children of the Reagan Homeless population that was nowhere to be found during the Clinton Administration. Looks like, after a diligent search, the media has found them.
81 posted on 08/12/2003 7:59:06 AM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham
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To: Alberta's Child
Name any county in the world where you don't pay more than a dollar to anyone for a dollar's worth of work? Other than china where prisoners do all of the work and are taken care of by the communist state.
82 posted on 08/12/2003 8:00:59 AM PDT by samuel_adams_us
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To: Alberta's Child
BTW, this country isn't a business, it's a democratic republic.
83 posted on 08/12/2003 8:01:39 AM PDT by samuel_adams_us
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To: samuel_adams_us
It's the chicken and the egg problem and btw, more than half of these people were registered republicans so before you type cast someone, know what you are talking about.

Doubtful. Most Republicans and conservatives don't believe it's up to the federal government to provide them with jobs. The "Where is my job?" signs are the creation of RAT professionals.

84 posted on 08/12/2003 8:01:51 AM PDT by finnman69 (!)
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To: AppyPappy
Yes, Congress does. But, they recently granted the President Fast Track authority by a very close margin, giving him the power to negotiate new trade deals.
And, besides the growing unemployment concerns, our lopsided trade with Red China is a potential national security risk.
The Mexican border is another potential national security risk, but nothing is being done about that either. Illegals pour over the border every day. And, illegals do take jobs from Americans, mostly from the Americans with fewer savings and assets to survive the current economy; the Americans mentioned in this article.
85 posted on 08/12/2003 8:02:16 AM PDT by LibertyAndJusticeForAll
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To: LibertyAndJusticeForAll
one paycheck away here....guess i could get a third job...

yeah,im sorry i voted for george,see,he lied...
said he would work for the best interests of this country,yet does nothing about the millions of illegals pouring over our borders..
or the h1b visa program

or the companies outsourcing tech jobs to india

and now wastes billions on iraq

and now liberia

thanks george and the republicans,thanks worthless democrats

i dont think its even worth my time to vote for these punks...
86 posted on 08/12/2003 8:02:46 AM PDT by mediawatcher44
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To: Gothmog
The news is based on numbers. The numbers are not good. You can look around and see all the "Going Out of Business" signs and see that things are worse than they have been since the Great Depression. Whining about "lib mayors" does not change facts that are obvious to everyone. Unless you are someone flatly determined to believe only what he wants to believe.

When you examine what happens when three million jobs leave this country, a rational person would obviously see that it means a lot of people who had homes three years ago don't today. Or did you think that 3 million jobs could vanish without manifesting themselves in hard socioeconomic consequences (homelessness, crime, alcoholism, drug abuse) ?
87 posted on 08/12/2003 8:02:46 AM PDT by Tokhtamish
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To: tdadams
And that's not irresponsible? Have you never been introduced to the concept of a savings account?

And forego the recreational drugs and alcohol? Jeez, you are a mean-spirited conservative, aren't you? :O)

88 posted on 08/12/2003 8:02:58 AM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham
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To: samuel_adams_us
My family has been here since 1603. My gx4-grandfather was the first Postmaster General of the United States. You may WANT to bow to me, beg my forgiveness for spitting lies and then get down on your padded kness and pray for forgiveness.
89 posted on 08/12/2003 8:03:56 AM PDT by whereasandsoforth (tagged for migratory purposes only)
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To: whereasandsoforth
Whatever, postmaster, wow, now I know I was right.
90 posted on 08/12/2003 8:05:20 AM PDT by samuel_adams_us
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To: finnman69
No, people who are looking for work and can't find it. Colorado's unemployment rate is high and the odd thing is according to our governor, we have the most educated work force per capita in the world.
91 posted on 08/12/2003 8:06:31 AM PDT by samuel_adams_us
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To: samuel_adams_us
As reported in the Denver Post, there were 100 protesters, not 4000.

http://www.denverpost.com/Stories/0,1413,36~53~1565230,00.html

A crowd of about 100 protesters stood outside the Wings Over the Rockies Museum, their view of the president blocked by strategically parked buses.

The protesters, critiquing everything from the war in Iraq to high unemployment, waved signs such as ones reading "Bush lied, thousands died," and "Impeach Bush."
92 posted on 08/12/2003 8:06:54 AM PDT by finnman69 (!)
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To: LibertyAndJusticeForAll
I really don't think this would be a "negotiation". I think it will take Congress to hammer the Chinese. They will not agree to anything we propose.
93 posted on 08/12/2003 8:07:43 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Be Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
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To: finnman69
I already know that, and I apologize for being wrong but on the way in I heard 4k on the radio, KHOW.
94 posted on 08/12/2003 8:07:44 AM PDT by samuel_adams_us
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To: Gothmog
I remember my homeless years with great fondness.

Then all I needed was a change of clothes, a beach, fishin’ pole, and gas in my pick-up truck.

Now, mortgage, car payments, braces …. You get the picture.

It’s all a matter of perspective. My advice is enjoy it while you can.

Pass the bait and beer amigo!
95 posted on 08/12/2003 8:07:46 AM PDT by schaketo (White Devils for Al Sharpton in 2004... Pennsylvania Chapter)
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To: whereasandsoforth
Funny how hysterical you "let them eat cake" libertarians get when you are scared.
96 posted on 08/12/2003 8:07:51 AM PDT by Tokhtamish
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To: samuel_adams_us
Name any country in the world where you don't pay more than a dollar to anyone for a dollar's worth of work?

In case you haven't noticed, all these countries where employers pay more than a dollar for a dollar's worth of work are filled with people complaining that there aren't enough jobs.

Before the First World War, it was considered normal for an employer to pay his workers no more than the raw cost of those workers' labor. I find it interesting (and it's no coincidence) that you never saw people clamoring for "jobs" at presidential campaign appearances before that time, either.

97 posted on 08/12/2003 8:08:22 AM PDT by Alberta's Child
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To: finnman69
BTW, I hope bush can attract more than 350 people to his next benefits, otherwise it sure is going to get lonely out there for him.
98 posted on 08/12/2003 8:08:29 AM PDT by samuel_adams_us
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To: willieroe
So what you're saying is that this guy is a bald-faced liar. Thought so, thanks for clearing that up.
99 posted on 08/12/2003 8:08:31 AM PDT by Conservative til I die (They say anti-Catholicism is the thinking man's anti-Semitism; that's an insult to thinking men)
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To: samuel_adams_us
How's this the President's job?
100 posted on 08/12/2003 8:09:26 AM PDT by Conservative til I die (They say anti-Catholicism is the thinking man's anti-Semitism; that's an insult to thinking men)
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