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Iranian Alert -- August 16, 2003 -- LIVE THREAD PING LIST
The Iranian Student Movement Up To The Minute Reports ^ | 8.16.2003 | DoctorZin

Posted on 08/16/2003 12:04:44 AM PDT by DoctorZIn

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To: nuconvert
I do too. But, the terrorist thugs of Hamas, Fedayeen Saddam, Taliban and Al Qaida interact within poor urban Islamic neighborhoods the way the Vice Lords and Sultan Gangbangers interacted with the residents of the Cabrini Green HUD projects in south Chicago back in the late 80s. They reigned over a feudal society through menace and imminent violence, but none of the residents were stupid enough to narc them out to a Cop. The guys in the black doo rags with the shotguns and Rugers storming into your living room at will trumped the guys in blue with guns who couldn't come into your living room without knocking and politely asking permission.

The residents didn't want these goons around, they didn't support their activities, but they lived with them and just shook their head affirmatively and heartily agreed with anything they wanted. But, if the numbers added up, and the odds were sufficient, they'd delight in the arrest, killing or dispersal of the gangbangas. They knew who was victimizing them, but they wouldn't say so unless there was no chance of retribution.

51 posted on 08/16/2003 5:17:16 PM PDT by ArneFufkin
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To: cake_crumb
and there's no end to the terror after Palestine becomes an independent state, there will be hell to pay under international law.

Not only that, but the fact that there is a state, with defined borders and soverign virtue and a community with a shared experience and investment in the future ... is an automatic mitigator of terror. States are real, they have emotional appeal to the residents, and they have a vested interest in the maintanence and care of their "thing".

The Palestinian settlements are breeding grounds for terrorist operations, there's no sense of community threat or loss when mass murder of another countries innocents is staged and initiated from your neighborhood. It's not YOURS.

If it was Palestine, if it was your country and your people and your land as a Palestinian, now that guy who is trespassing on your street, plotting mayhem and recruiting murderers is a THREAT to your home, your tribe.

That's the imperative of a Palestinian State. Palestinians will protect their tribe, their turf. That's why Al Qaida flourished in Afghanistan, Sudan and Rugged Pakistan. Those nations had no sense of something to lose.

52 posted on 08/16/2003 5:45:13 PM PDT by ArneFufkin
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To: ArneFufkin
I understand what you're saying about the similarities between the terrorists and gangs operating in poor neighborhoods.

My hoping you were right,actually had to do with the Saudi royal family being willing to get rid of the "bad" side, in order to survive.
53 posted on 08/16/2003 7:09:06 PM PDT by nuconvert
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To: nuconvert
I posted on another thread that the Saudi Royal "Family" numbers 7000 blood relations, and with family, over 24,000. Each of the 7000 get an annual stipend of at least $500,000. If just 150 of that group give Bin Laden $200,000, that's $30 million annually for Al Qaida operations from just over 2% of the Royals giving 40% of their trust fund allowance for Holy Jihad. That's the complexity of just tagging the Saudi "Royals" as being benefactors and financiers of terror cells, there's a lot of slackers with a half mil of idle cash and lots of time on their hands. Many run oil brokering outfits, and there was a lot of black market oil available ... as much as 600,000 barrels per day, for sale during the Oil for Food embezzlement caper. At $30 a barrel, that's $18 million a day of hard cash filtering through places like Syria, Iraq, Iran and Yemen and there was no food on the wish list. $4.5 billion to buy nasty war toys from North Korean and China, finance terror monkeys and help out the French and German union-larded economies. That meanie Bush had to go and ruin the whole sweet shebang!
54 posted on 08/16/2003 7:40:01 PM PDT by ArneFufkin
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Prolific, aren't they? Does this stipend include the women? 40% seems a little high...how about 20?

"That meanie Bush had to go and ruin the whole sweet shebang!"

He hasn't ruined the whole thing, yet. But I hope he can in the next 5 years.
Next government collapse: Iran.
55 posted on 08/16/2003 8:04:11 PM PDT by nuconvert
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56 posted on 08/17/2003 12:23:29 AM PDT by DoctorZIn
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