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Anti-Atkins nutritionist working for flour millers
telegraph.co.uk ^ | 18/08/2003 | Tom Peterkin

Posted on 08/18/2003 6:07:05 PM PDT by PhilipFreneau

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To: Sabatier
Mushrooms are not a vegetable.
41 posted on 08/19/2003 7:57:48 AM PDT by monkeyshine
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To: MarkL
...I've lost 51 pounds and 9" around the waist so far, and am fast approaching the half-way point of my diet... 62 1/2 is exactly the half way poing. More importantly, within a week, I was feeling better. My joints felt better and I was sleeping much better. It seems that my body "likes" the fact that I'm eating far fewer carbs and processed, synthetic foods.

Hey! Did I write that??

Afraid my poundage is higher, not sure the specific inches (but ten pants-sizes so far, and counting), but otherwise, my experience is EXACTLY the same. Plus, relatively, I feel like I'm burning a higher-grade fuel, energy-wise. Isn't it truly remarkable... and far better than you might have hoped?

Dan

42 posted on 08/19/2003 7:57:51 AM PDT by BibChr (("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9]))
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To: PhilipFreneau
Don't be shy!

Tell Susan Jebb, the paid henchtwit of the flour producers, what you really think!

Contact information:

MRC Resource Centre for Human Nutrition Research (Non-University)
Elsie Widdowson Laboratory, Fulbourn Road, Cambridge CB1 9NL
Tel: +44 (0) 1223 426356
Fax: +44 (0) 1223 437515
Enquiries: Dr Susan Jebb, Director of Studies,
Email: susan.jebb@mrc-hnr.cam.ac.uk
Web: www.mrc-hnr.cam.ac.uk

Go for it!
43 posted on 08/19/2003 8:08:48 AM PDT by Stallone
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To: cashion
Balanced on what scale? If you compare it to the food pyramid, you're right, it's not balanced. Atkins is based on the concept that the food pyramid is completely off-kilter, so the generally recognized "balance" does not apply.

Exactly. What Atkins has been saying is that the nutritional theory on which the pyramid is based, is WRONG. Atkins redefines "balanced"

44 posted on 08/19/2003 8:09:24 AM PDT by SauronOfMordor (Java/C++/Unix/Web Developer === needs a job at the moment)
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To: CajunConservative
I personally have never eaten as well both for nutrition and for taste as I have while following a low carb plan

Total ditto to that.

Dan

45 posted on 08/19/2003 8:09:31 AM PDT by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: Agnes Heep
The Atkins diet appears to be quite a puzzlement to modern scientists. They can get it to work in practice, but not in theory.

I love that. It bears repeating, and repeating....

Dan

46 posted on 08/19/2003 8:11:20 AM PDT by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: CajunConservative
Cut out refined junk like white flour, cookies, white bread, high fructose corn syrup, most white foods, partially hydrogenated fats...

I don't "follow" Atkins, but when I look at your list, it's pretty much what works. High fructose corn syrup seems to be the real culprit, that and foods deep fried and saturated in grease.

When eating out, I like steak (lots of it), a salad, a good veggie, and some bread. Is the bread okay with that meal?

47 posted on 08/19/2003 8:16:10 AM PDT by grania ("Won't get fooled again")
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To: BibChr
GASP!!! WHAT?? SHE LIED???
 
 

never mind, we knew it already.. ;)

48 posted on 08/19/2003 8:16:29 AM PDT by carlo3b (http://www.CookingWithCarlo.com)
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To: BibChr
Here's another one: a "Herman" cartoon I saw many years ago, and would love to get a copy of, if I could. It shows a man standing in front of his doctor with a knife implanted firmly in the middle of his back. The doctor is studying an X-ray and saying "According to this, it's in your left ear."
49 posted on 08/19/2003 8:16:52 AM PDT by Agnes Heep
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To: SauronOfMordor
Has that diet change worked for her?

Dan
50 posted on 08/19/2003 8:26:51 AM PDT by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: cashion
If you compare it to the food pyramid, you're right, it's not balanced. Atkins is based on the concept that the food pyramid is completely off-kilter, so the generally recognized "balance" does not apply.

I asked my Doc last week how soon the "Food Pyramid" would be revised and he said one group already had, putting grains etc on the littlle end. My Doc is a DO and is recommending a Atkins type diet. His assistant confirmed it. I have lost 14 pounds in the last few months and while that is not a large number I feel 15 years younger and I am rarely hungry plus the food is to my liking...

51 posted on 08/19/2003 8:28:00 AM PDT by tubebender (FReepin Awesome...)
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To: Agnes Heep
LOL. Kind of like the bumblebee which, according to the accepted scientific principles of aeronautics, can't fly...

...yet, never having studied aeronautics, stubbornly does anyway.

Dan
(c;
52 posted on 08/19/2003 8:29:30 AM PDT by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: grania
When eating out, I like steak (lots of it), a salad, a good veggie, and some bread. Is the bread okay with that meal?

Actually the plan I follow most of the time is a hybrid of Atkins/Carbohydrate Addicts. I have to restrict when I eat my carbs as well as the types. On CAD it is more of a controlled carb plan in that you can still eat them but only for one hour so yes eating the bread with a meal at a restaurant could be okay if it doesn't trigger cravings later.

53 posted on 08/19/2003 10:36:10 AM PDT by CajunConservative
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To: BibChr
Imagine that, Dan ;) Thanks for the ping. I'm feeling better about my new way of eating every day.
54 posted on 08/19/2003 11:39:31 AM PDT by lsucat
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To: BibChr
Has that diet change worked for her?

It worked immediately and completely. She no longer has "incidents" of irrationality and hysterical crying. She just finished 3rd grade, and tested as having a 7th grade reading level.

55 posted on 08/19/2003 11:43:37 AM PDT by SauronOfMordor (Java/C++/Unix/Web Developer === needs a job at the moment)
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To: SauronOfMordor
Thank God, that's great to hear. That whole Ritalin thing... there's a sitch where the word "quagmire" DOES apply.

Dan
56 posted on 08/19/2003 11:58:37 AM PDT by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: BibChr
That whole Ritalin thing... there's a sitch where the word "quagmire" DOES apply.

I wouldn't be surprised to find out that a decent percentage of school problems for which Ritalin is prescribed, could be better handled by diet and nutrition fixes. A lot of inner-city kids probably have a "breakfast" of twinkees and cola.

57 posted on 08/19/2003 12:04:20 PM PDT by SauronOfMordor (Java/C++/Unix/Web Developer === needs a job at the moment)
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To: BibChr
Yep, thought so. So with a low fat low calorie diet, no one can stay on it very long. The alternative to Atkins is a fried rubber egg fixed in a Teflon skillet, dry toast, blue skim milk, a portion of bacon the size of a postage stamp. Makes you want to race right out for that agonizing 'balanced' diet. I'm salivating already.
58 posted on 08/19/2003 12:28:19 PM PDT by RJayneJ (To see pictures of Jayne's quilt: http://bulldogbulletin.lhhosting.com/page50.htm)
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To: RJayneJ
Kee kee, I'm with you. Yum! Yum!

Dan
8^P
59 posted on 08/19/2003 12:31:03 PM PDT by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: Mihalis
The Atkins diet is a very effective way to lose weight quickly. But it has a huge problem: it's NOT balanced.

You mean that you don't get to eat cheesecake, ice cream, donuts, cake, candy bars, soda pop, french fries and pizza under Atkins? Yeah, I guess that is unbalanced.

If you are eating just meat, fish, vegetables, fruits, nuts and olive oils, you are on an unbalanced diet and are ruining your health. Get some Krispy Kreme donuts and Pop Tarts into your system before it is too late!

60 posted on 08/19/2003 6:13:27 PM PDT by SamAdams76 (Back in boot camp! 230.6 (-69.4))
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