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Yes Rush, itís true: RNC chief rejects GOP traditions (follow-up Union Leader editorial)
Manchester Union Leader ^ | 9-3-03 | Editorial oard, Manchester Union Leader

Posted on 09/03/2003 4:08:24 AM PDT by GraniteStateConservative

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To: the gillman@blacklagoon.com
Who shall undertake that perilous quest?

Well, we can be certain it won't be any of the dwarves in the RNC. Cowards.

101 posted on 09/03/2003 8:05:01 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (For an Evil Super Genius, you aren't too bright are you?)
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To: sam_paine
To demonstrate what would have happened to Dagny if she hadn't "shrugged;" a death be it literal, spiritual or both. See also Tagert's innocent wife.
102 posted on 09/03/2003 8:15:12 AM PDT by KantianBurke (The Federal govt should be protecting us from terrorists, not handing out goodies)
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To: Dead Corpse
Never a damned Hobbit around when you need one!
103 posted on 09/03/2003 8:15:15 AM PDT by the gillman@blacklagoon.com (Let all the poisons that lurk in the mud, hatch out!)
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To: the gillman@blacklagoon.com
No end the number of Gullums running around though. Next thing you know, someone will let loose the barrow wights.
104 posted on 09/03/2003 8:20:23 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (For an Evil Super Genius, you aren't too bright are you?)
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To: Dead Corpse
The Republicanses sssaid they would protects us, they did. They swore it on the precious. Yeesss!

But they betrayed us!
105 posted on 09/03/2003 8:36:42 AM PDT by the gillman@blacklagoon.com (Let all the poisons that lurk in the mud, hatch out!)
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To: Dane
Also I wonder why the Union-Leader is afraid to publish the whole interview. Just the straight transcript of the interview.

This does not quite pass the smell test with me either. Pay close attention to this paragraph...

“Those questions have been decided,” was his response. The public wants an expanded federal role in those areas, and the Republican Party at the highest levels has decided to give the public what it wants.

Unless there is a typo, everythinng after "was his response" is paraphrasing by the paper, due to the lack of quotation marks.

That said, I'd feel a heck of a lot better hearing Gillespie clarifying this himself.

106 posted on 09/03/2003 8:38:41 AM PDT by jmc813 (Check out the FR Big Brother 4 thread! http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/943368/posts)
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To: Uncle Jaque
So the only hope for American Culture, heritage, and Liberty in my humble opinion is to take our Party BACK from the usurpers and parasites.

Amen! Are you familiar with the Republican Liberty Caucus?

107 posted on 09/03/2003 8:51:16 AM PDT by jmc813 (Check out the FR Big Brother 4 thread! http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/943368/posts)
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To: Mind-numbed Robot
I note how quickly the personal attacks come out when someone disagrees with the pragmatists.
108 posted on 09/03/2003 8:55:08 AM PDT by B Knotts
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To: xzins
"In California they'd almost certainly be endorsing McClintock OVER Arnie."

Except for the fact that McClintock has little money, or name recognition, and Cruz 'LaRaza' Bustamante has the 80 million dollar backing of organized labor on his side.

The media Love Davis and Bustamante, and despise McClintock. They are also limited in their ability to attack Arnie, since he has quite a following. This evening there will be a televised 'debate' between the candidates in the town where I grew up. The Contra Costa Slimes, which played a big part in attacking Bill Simon with false inuendo in the last election, is sponsoring said 'debate' (along with KQED the local Communist TV station), so I'd say that Arnie has made a wise decision to avoid that circus, with it's canned, pre-set questions (public need not apply).

I wasn't a Swartzeneggar proponent until it became clear last week that he is the only chance we have to halt the slide of our state.

It is encouraging that he has shown the good judgement to avoid giving that forum any false validity. - (McClintock and Uberroth, why are you going?)

109 posted on 09/03/2003 8:56:07 AM PDT by editor-surveyor ( . Best policy RE: Environmentalists, - ZERO TOLERANCE !!)
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To: xzins
"Have you seen the picture of Washington Praying at Valley Forge?"

Speaking of recordings and "actual qutoes," was that picture a photograph, or was it a painting by someone with perhaps his own agenda?

Hypothetically speaking, of course.

110 posted on 09/03/2003 8:57:13 AM PDT by Redbob
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To: Dead Corpse; the gillman@blacklagoon.com; ksen; g'nad; HairOfTheDog; ecurbh
Well, we can be certain it won't be any of the dwarves in the RNC. Cowards.

I can assure you, there are no dwarves running the RNC. Dwarves are many things, but they are not "cowards."

Not sure you have a true Middle-Earth analogy to the folks of the RNC. They are not dwarves, not even elves. They are sort of faceless creatures who hunger for power, but lack the spine to seek it.

111 posted on 09/03/2003 8:59:56 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands (HHD)
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To: xzins
HOW does one repeat that process?

You need to find another champion. It is not me.

112 posted on 09/03/2003 9:01:40 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands (HHD)
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To: Corin Stormhands
Yes, dwarves was a lousy analogy....
113 posted on 09/03/2003 9:01:59 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog (20 days to go..... And whither then? I cannot say)
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To: Dane
Re: "Did you check out reply #34."

Yes; I did, Thank you.

How clever!; Our Party "might" pass a bill prohibiting partial-birth infantacide, "pretty soon", and "if" they do, the President will "probably" sign it.

Right.

This way they placate their "Conservative" Base with a theatrical show of good intentions, while at the same time avoiding the ire and certain revenge of the socialist power mongers among them, including (alas!) a few bearing the "R" stamp next to their State of Representation.

We have a couple of those from my Home State who, it seems, have never seen an abortion they didn't like.

The Left seems pretty confident that no such Bill will, in fact, ever see the light of day outide of the halls of Congress.

And in the unlikely event that it might, can we rely on the Chief Executive's "pledge" to sign it into Law any more than his previous "pledge" to offer Working-Class American Parents and Students some other affordable educational alternatives to Government-monopoly mandated socialist/Heathen/New Age indoctrination Centers, AKA "Public Schools"?

Whatever became of that "pledge", anyway?
Have you checked the Clinton Memorial Ashtray?

And in the unlikely event that such a "Law" got past the President's desk (and I doubt that he'll really like it nearly as much as he did the McCain/Feingold Campaign finance Deform Bill) The Tyranical and untouchable Federal Judiciary, as another contributor has so aptly pointed out, will see to it that it is null and void in no time at all.

"Dead On Arrival", as Sen. Daschole used to crow in triumph so very often in response to Republican initiatives.

Sort of like millions of innocent American infants lately...

114 posted on 09/03/2003 9:03:20 AM PDT by Uncle Jaque ("Rock of Ages; Cleft for me; Let me hide myself in Thee...")
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To: Redbob
Well, obviously not a photograph.

Certainly someone capturing an impression they had read about.

Whether a Cherry Tree moment or not is insignificant. The symbolism of Washington's faith fits in well with his adopted daughter's writings about him.

115 posted on 09/03/2003 9:05:07 AM PDT by xzins (In the Beginning Was the Word!)
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To: Corin Stormhands
Which type would you recommend: Aragorn, Gimli, Legolas, Merry, Pippin?

A wizard would be nice.

116 posted on 09/03/2003 9:08:51 AM PDT by xzins (In the Beginning Was the Word!)
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To: Landru
"We asked him three times to explain why President Bush and the Republican Congress have increased discretionary non-defense spending at such an alarming rate, and why the party has embraced the expansion of the federal government’s roles in education, agriculture and Great Society-era entitlement programs. “Those questions have been decided,” was his response. The public wants an expanded federal role in those areas, and the Republican Party at the highest levels has decided to give the public what it wants."

Apparently, conservative GOPers who believe the Federal Leviathan should be looking to devolve power to States, Localities, and Individuals are being shunned by the Republican Party, and the Pubbies have become DemonRATlite!! This is a prescription for disaster at the polls, imho, as Dubyuh's lookin' more and more like his MilquetoastModerateDaddy every day!!

SHEEEEESH...I've never felt this disconnected from the GOP...MUD

117 posted on 09/03/2003 9:13:27 AM PDT by Mudboy Slim (RE-IMPEACH Osama bil Clinton!!)
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To: Corin Stormhands
Smeagol/Gollums?
118 posted on 09/03/2003 9:14:47 AM PDT by the gillman@blacklagoon.com (Let all the poisons that lurk in the mud, hatch out!)
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To: jmc813; lockeliberty
Republican Liberty Caucus

Yes, I'm familiar. It's republicans with a libertarian ideology. They've struck me as a group open to libertarian ideas; not terribly open to ideas beyond that. Libertarians tend to be non-interventionist throughout the range of their positions.

Christian Conservatives tend to be limited interventionists and moral functionalists.

Therefore, I believe this nation was founded on Judeo-Christian moral principles; that it won't function if the Judeo-Christian underpinnings are cut out from beneath the structure.

119 posted on 09/03/2003 9:16:38 AM PDT by xzins (In the Beginning Was the Word!)
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To: Mind-numbed Robot
"Those who argue that the Republicans are not conservative enough so we should all vote for some obscure ideologically pure party are aiding and abetting the liberals."

Balderdash!! Those who vote for RINOs who implement the DemonRATS' Socialist Agenda are the ones aiding and abetting the liberals...MUD

120 posted on 09/03/2003 9:18:05 AM PDT by Mudboy Slim (RE-IMPEACH Osama bil Clinton!!)
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