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Sen. John Edwards is expected to announce he will not run for Re-Election
The Hill ^ | September 3, 2003 | Peter Savodnik

Posted on 09/03/2003 8:25:54 AM PDT by Pubbie

North Carolina. Democratic Sen. John Edwards is expected to announce within two weeks that he will not run for re-election to the Senate so that he can focus on his struggling White House bid.

Last week, former South Carolina Gov. Jim Hunt (D), a key Edwards supporter, predicted Edwards would drop out of the Senate race when he officially declares his candidacy for president Sept. 16, in his hometown of Robbins, N.C.

Several Democrats may run if Edwards opts not to seek a second Senate term. They include former White House chief of staff Erskine Bowles, who lost to GOP Sen. Elizabeth Dole last year, and former state Rep. Dan Blue, who lost to Bowles in the 2002 primary. The Democratic nominee would likely face Republican Rep. Richard

Burr, who has close to $3.5 million in his campaign war chest.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: North Carolina
KEYWORDS: 2004; burr; edwards; edwardswatch; johnedwards; moose; northcarolina; oldnorthstate; retirements; richardburr; senate
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To: Pubbie
What's the deal? I read somewhere that Reid is Mormon. I always thought Mormons were very conservative. Was this wrong? How can a Mormon be a social liberal?
51 posted on 09/03/2003 9:22:12 AM PDT by Conservateacher
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To: Constitution Day
You beat me to the punch! I love it when newsnerds can't get even the most basic of information right.

I don't think this is that big in that I feel Burr would have walked away with the seat even had the Breck Girl decided to fight for his seat. Breck Girl is toast in this state for now. He is hated almost as much as Bill Clinton, which has to be some sort of record!

I voted for Burr when he ran for the House & have always felt he was one of our best representatives. I think he may finally break that Senate seat's curse of "one & done" terms.
52 posted on 09/03/2003 9:24:34 AM PDT by Littlejon
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To: Pubbie
I guess he wants to go back to enriching himself by bankrupting businesses practicing law.
53 posted on 09/03/2003 9:27:12 AM PDT by CFC__VRWC
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To: Live free or die
I'm still registered to vote in NC. Should I reregister or is this gonna be a close race?

You should vote where you live. No need sinking to the opposition's level.

54 posted on 09/03/2003 9:28:28 AM PDT by gridlock (Remember: PC Kills!)
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To: TexasNative2000
Will he make his announcement in front of a battleship?

Nope. a decommisioned Battleship. The way Kerry did yesterday. What a dolt.

55 posted on 09/03/2003 9:31:57 AM PDT by Cobra64 (Babes should wear Bullet Bras - www.BulletBras.net)
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To: Conservateacher
He's a Mormon, but he is a complete liberal - there's no law saying he has to be a social conservative.
56 posted on 09/03/2003 9:32:37 AM PDT by Pubbie (Bill Owens for Prez and Jeb as VP in '08.)
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To: Conservateacher
***How can a Mormon be a social liberal?***

There are Catholics who are pro-abortion liberals. Just ask Ted Kennedy.
57 posted on 09/03/2003 9:34:19 AM PDT by Kuksool
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To: AuH2ORepublican
What, Danny DeVito isn't available?

Fred Flintstone is definitely available. A staffer at the DNC said so.

58 posted on 09/03/2003 9:34:55 AM PDT by Cobra64 (Babes should wear Bullet Bras - www.BulletBras.net)
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To: *Old_North_State; **North_Carolina; mykdsmom; 100%FEDUP; 2ndMostConservativeBrdMember; ~Vor~; ...
NC ping!
Please FRmail me if you want to be added to or removed from this North Carolina ping list.
59 posted on 09/03/2003 9:35:39 AM PDT by Constitution Day
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To: *Edwards Watch
Indexing to Edwards Watch...
60 posted on 09/03/2003 9:36:20 AM PDT by Constitution Day
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To: Constitution Day
let's help edwards pack up ...he he he
61 posted on 09/03/2003 9:38:48 AM PDT by rrrod
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To: Pubbie
There is no way he can win-trying for a V.P. slot in 2008 ?
62 posted on 09/03/2003 9:49:55 AM PDT by y2k_free_radical (ESSE QUAM VIDERA-to be rather than to seem)
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To: mabelkitty
I think he's running for V.P. in 2008
63 posted on 09/03/2003 9:55:30 AM PDT by y2k_free_radical (ESSE QUAM VIDERA-to be rather than to seem)
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To: goldstategop
Bingo..it really means that Edwards doersn't want to spend another 6 years in the minority..especially on the Judiciary committe..fighting over a whole passel of SC nominations..
64 posted on 09/03/2003 10:28:45 AM PDT by ken5050
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To: Kuksool
Yes, but....if the GOP nominee is smart enought to campaign with Liddy Dole...he'd win going away..
65 posted on 09/03/2003 10:29:59 AM PDT by ken5050
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To: TexasNative2000
Will he make his announcement in front of a battleship?

Where is Hillary, anyway?

66 posted on 09/03/2003 10:30:00 AM PDT by Kieri
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To: TexasNative2000
You mean the one with no sailors on it?
67 posted on 09/03/2003 10:31:08 AM PDT by gulfcoast6 (The Clintons, remember when we were told 'TWO FOR ONE'?)
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To: Kieri
LOL!
68 posted on 09/03/2003 10:31:08 AM PDT by TexasNative2000 (You may disagree with me, but I will fight for your right to be in error.)
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To: Conservateacher; AuH2ORepublican
Re Harry Reid, he was originally a pro-life social conservative. He has since converted to pro-abort orthodoxy in Washington, similar to Dick Gephardt and many other Rats. Who knows what they really believe?

Will it be Erskine vs. Blue again? Or are Congressmen Etheridge and/or McIntyre interested?

I'm guessing the congresscritters will stay put for now. State treasurer Richard Moore, Rat golden boy, may run. Bowles is definitely interested, as is Blue; a 3-way primary would be very interesting and winnable for each.

69 posted on 09/03/2003 10:39:01 AM PDT by JohnnyZ (Robot robot robot)
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To: JohnnyZ
Will Harvey Gant try again? He won't have to deal with Jesse Helms if he runs.
70 posted on 09/03/2003 10:41:02 AM PDT by Kuksool
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To: Kuksool
Will Harvey Gant try again?

Oh, wow . . . is Gantt still active? I have heard zip about him or Jim Hunt running, and Gantt, at least, has to be getting up there.

Maybe newscaster Sonja Gantt will run :)

(she is Harvey's daughter)

71 posted on 09/03/2003 11:21:59 AM PDT by JohnnyZ (Robot robot robot)
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To: Kuksool
Wow, apparently Harvey's only 60. Still, haven't heard anything. Maybe he swore off politics after his second run for senate.
72 posted on 09/03/2003 11:28:20 AM PDT by JohnnyZ (Robot robot robot)
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To: JohnnyZ
In Spring of 2001, Harvey Gantt thought about challenging Jesse Helms for a 3rd time. However, he decided not to run again. He complained about Jesse being a dirty campaigner.
73 posted on 09/03/2003 11:40:19 AM PDT by Kuksool
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To: Kuksool
Well, the nomination is his if he wants it, I would imagine. Why didn't he run when Jesse said he was retiring, then, if that was his reason for not running?
74 posted on 09/03/2003 11:44:49 AM PDT by JohnnyZ (Robot robot robot)
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To: 1Old Pro
She can't keep her seat if Rudy runs. He beats her by 20%, and the campaign hasn't even started yet!

75 posted on 09/03/2003 11:45:42 AM PDT by zbigreddogz
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To: Kuksool
I think you overestimate Bowles, I mean, he lost by 10 points, that isn't a small loss. I'm not saying it's a sure thing or anything, but it seems to me like he has a WHOLE lot of work to do.

76 posted on 09/03/2003 11:47:26 AM PDT by zbigreddogz
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To: zbigreddogz
She can't keep her seat if Rudy runs. He beats her by 20%, and the campaign hasn't even started yet!

Hey, that's my dream come true, but I'll share.

77 posted on 09/03/2003 11:49:36 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: JohnnyZ
After Harvey Gantt formally announced in the Spring of 2001 that he would not challenge Jesse Helms, he disappeared from the political radar screen. Perhaps, Gantt's desire for running for the Senate were motivated more by his personal dislike for Jesse than wanting to serve in Washington D.C.
78 posted on 09/03/2003 11:58:33 AM PDT by Kuksool
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To: Rebelbase; Constitution Day
Do you think Hunt will be the one to run against Burr for the Senate seat?

Are you trying to give me a stroke?????

79 posted on 09/03/2003 12:14:46 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Howlin
Gantt denies any responsiblity for mold


DURHAM -- Charlotte architect Harvey Gantt denied Thursday that his firm was responsible for construction delays and flaws at several N.C. Central University buildings and said suggestions about what has caused mold to grow in two dorms he designed is speculation.

Gantt, a former Charlotte mayor and Senate candidate, said recent media coverage "jumps the gun" on what has caused mold in the dorms, which opened in 1999. He suggested that the aging steam heating system, which was hooked up to the building to heat water and appears to have caused mold in other older buildings, could be a culprit. He said officials knew when the building opened that there was a leak in the system.

"Nobody really knows," Gantt said. "There are people that are speculating out there."

Former NCCU Chancellor Julius Chambers agreed Thursday that observers should withhold judgment in the matter and also look at why the state didn't catch the problems.

"I think, number one, you ought to look further and see what was actually done," he said. "After the buildings were turned over, were the repairs made? What did [Gantt] sign off on? ... Did the state see the buildings? What did they sign off on?"

"I think it's unfair to single out one person. I think it's the state's responsibility."

Gantt's firm, Gantt Huberman Architects, has offered to bring in a mold expert to help find the cause, he said. "We think that's the appropriate way to do it, to have someone examine it and see what is causing the problem, rather than speculating."

Gantt also corrected an error in a Tuesday Herald-Sun story that said the university withheld his $1,004,260 fee for more than year while problems with the building were being resolved. In fact, Gantt already had been paid much of that fee and the university withheld only the final payment, which he said was $43,250. He maintained that the payment was withheld over a minor issue involving electronic card readers that didn't function properly, and he attributed that to the electrical contractor.

The Herald-Sun reported this week that NCCU officials knew shortly after Gantt's twin dorms opened that they were plagued with water leaks, climate-control problems and other defects. As the designer in charge of the dorms, Gantt personally signed off on the work.

Experts who inspected the dorms recently said it is infested with mold and moisture and may have to be partially gutted. The university expects to have a full assessment by Sept. 30.

Chambers, who served from 1993 to 2001 and is a longtime friend of Gantt's, said he recalls complaints being made about the new dorm buildings in 1999. But he said he thought repairs had been made and that the state approved the repairs.

"I think the [dorm complex] was inspected by the state. I think we had a problem initially and we closed a portion of the [complex] ... and made additional repairs," Chambers said. "I thought the building [complex] was approved by the state."

The Herald-Sun also reported that a second Gantt building at NCCU, the School of Education, which opened in 2000, ran into initial construction difficulties but that it has not been identified as having mold or any continuing problems.

Records show that electronic card readers, electrical work, telecommunications system and other fixtures weren't working properly and that the State Construction Office initially rejected Gantt's final report on the building and final request for payment. The university also complained for months that the building, scheduled to open in 1998, was too far behind schedule.

Gantt said Thursday that the delays were due to bad soil discovered at the beginning of the project and to contractors not being able to keep up with the schedule. He noted that his firm was paid an additional fee of more than $100,000 for its extra time on the project.

"We had worked on the project almost two years longer than would have been the case," he said. "The delay and completion of the building had nothing to do with the architect."

"I don't know that anybody was upset with us with the level of effort we were giving," he added.

Project documents show that there were disputes among the parties working on it. The electrical consultant, Regency Electric, blamed Gantt Huberman for faulty design and filed a claim against the state seeking $373,839.44 in additional payment. The claim was settled, with Regency accepting $180,000. The company also was refunded $14,300 in fines it was assessed over delays.

Also, letters between NCCU and Gantt at the time of construction show an increasing level of frustration from the university.

In July 1999, NCCU Physical Plant Director Edward Eng wrote that Gantt's firm "may be lacking in its performance of the design agreement ... The university is extremely concerned about the level of effort given to the successful and timely completion of this project by [Gantt Huberman Architects] and its subconsultants."

In another letter dated May 2000 -- sent to Gantt after the school's Board of Trustees voiced concerns -- Arthur Smart, the school's building systems engineer, wrote again that the university was "very displeased" with the building's progress, calling some delays "totally unacceptable."
80 posted on 09/03/2003 12:30:41 PM PDT by blackbag
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To: Pubbie
Iksome Bowels is having the runs.
81 posted on 09/03/2003 1:15:36 PM PDT by boomop1
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To: goldstategop
"If Jack Woodcock works hard"

Oh, dear.

82 posted on 09/03/2003 1:48:43 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~RINOs can eat my shorts - and you don't want to know when I washed 'em last~)
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To: JohnnyZ
Drat. She's cute. Too bad she's a 'Rat. Did Ole Harve marry a model to get a kid this attractive ?
83 posted on 09/03/2003 1:51:51 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~RINOs can eat my shorts - and you don't want to know when I washed 'em last~)
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To: JohnnyZ
"Maybe newscaster Sonja Gantt will run :)"


She's cute. Is she 30 years old yet? If so, she may run for the RATs and give Burr a run for his money. In elections, all else being equal, cute beats homely every day and twice on Sunday.
84 posted on 09/03/2003 3:09:25 PM PDT by AuH2ORepublican (Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice, moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.)
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To: fieldmarshaldj; AuH2ORepublican
Now, c'mon, Sonja ain't all that. (She's not going to run, at least at this point, anyway. I don't know if she's interested in elective office but she'd start out in local govt, you gotta figure.) You should see the chicks over on FOX. Hello, Ashley Anderson . . .

not to mention Suzette Rhee and Patty Pan

I love watching the local news in Charlotte!!!

85 posted on 09/03/2003 4:57:14 PM PDT by JohnnyZ (Robot robot robot)
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To: JohnnyZ
(To clarify, Patty Pan for another network, not FOX; Suzette is I'm not sure where these days)
86 posted on 09/03/2003 5:05:06 PM PDT by JohnnyZ (Robot robot robot)
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To: JohnnyZ; fieldmarshaldj
That Ashley Anderson is a hottie! If she's a conservative, we should nominate her right away to run against Sue Myrick in the primaries. I'd much rather watch Ashley on C-SPAN than ol' Sue.

Speaking of hotties, have you seen Brooke Adams, who's running as an independent in the CA recall? Here's her site: http://www.brookeforgovernor.com/ She's fairly conservative for a Californian (from her site I think she's against partial-birth abortion and most gun-control, and for tax cuts). Someone should encourage her to run for Congress in Southern California (but not me, my wife wouldn't let me : ).
87 posted on 09/03/2003 5:19:43 PM PDT by AuH2ORepublican (Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice, moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.)
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To: AuH2ORepublican
That Ashley Anderson is a hottie! If she's a conservative

Ashley is indeed a conservative feminist. Think Susan B. Anthony. Haven't pinned her down on abortion yet but she's solid on a lot of stuff, very New South, if you will.

88 posted on 09/03/2003 6:28:45 PM PDT by JohnnyZ (Robot robot robot)
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To: Pubbie
Oh yeah.

Some much needed good news on the Senate front. Although I think Burr would beat Johnny Bravo it's easier if Johnny drops out.

89 posted on 09/04/2003 3:36:40 AM PDT by Impy (Don't you fall into the trap, democrats are full of crap.)
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To: Howlin
The only reason I bring up Jim Hunt is that he seems to be the perpetual politician type.
90 posted on 09/04/2003 5:43:43 AM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: Impy
Nice graphic.
91 posted on 09/04/2003 5:44:33 AM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: Pubbie
Darn. The headline excited me, until I saw that Irksome Bowels was thinking of running for his seat.
92 posted on 09/04/2003 5:45:34 AM PDT by gitmo (Americans are learning world geography ... one war at a time.)
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To: Pubbie
in light of the Estrada withdrawal and poor recruitment so far, this could be good news. Now if Graham of FL will do the same!
93 posted on 09/04/2003 1:10:42 PM PDT by votelife (Free Bill Pryor)
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To: Pubbie
I saw a poll that said 48 Dashcle, 46 Thune. Not bad...
94 posted on 09/04/2003 1:12:14 PM PDT by votelife (Free Bill Pryor)
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To: goldstategop
North Carolina, South Carolina, Georgia, and maybe Florida are in play for Republican pickups in '04.
95 posted on 09/04/2003 1:13:44 PM PDT by PJ-Comix
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To: votelife
Bob Graham is done, he won't run, that's why he's been telling Florida Democrats to "Have an Organisation and be ready to run" for his Senate seat.
96 posted on 09/04/2003 1:30:36 PM PDT by Pubbie (Bill Owens for Prez and Jeb as VP in '08.)
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To: Pubbie
I could see Graham undercutting his FL Democrats, "for the sake of the party" ie the ability to ruthlessy destroy Bushes nominees.
97 posted on 09/05/2003 1:14:48 PM PDT by votelife (Free Bill Pryor)
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