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**N. KOREA UNVEILS NEW INTERMEDIATE RANGE NUKE MISSILE; CAN HIT U.S. TARGETS (PARADE TODAY)***
Chosun Ilbo, SBS TV, Japanese NNN TV ^ | 9 September 2003 | AmericanInTokyo

Posted on 09/08/2003 2:01:07 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo

5:00 p.m. Monday (9/8) Eastern Time

It is now 6:00 a.m. Tuesday, September 9, 2003 in Pyongyang, North Korea. Under rainy skies and with a current temperature of 70 degrees F, 95% humidity, slight breeze, with expected thunderstorms today in Pyongyang. Many FReepers and others are taking close note of today. Sunrise will occur in 12 minutes. And then, within a few hours, something rather noteworthy, historic and perhaps stunning is expected in the capital of the D.P.R.K. (North Korea).

SBS-TV (S. Korea) today has obtained photographs of a new and provocative 15.5 meter-tall Nodong version missile, capable of attacking the United States military forces in Japan, Okinawa and Guam and with a range of over 3000 kilometers, and now, along with others in place at nearly 200 locations in North Korea, many aimed at Japanese cities and American forces in Japan (37,000 personnel).

It is also reported that before the day is out, North Korea may launch a solid rocket in missile testing, to herald it's founding anniversary. The US, Japan and South Korea are watching closely.

Photos (above) are of the No-dong missile before and after being loaded on mobile launcher transport (wheeled vehicle).

It is expected that within a few hours, in the morning hours in Pyongyang, the new No-dong long-range missile will be rolled through Kim Il-Sung square for the first time, at a massive North Korean military parade (the largest in 10 years) on the occasion of the 55th anniversary of the founding of the Democratic Peoples Republic of Korea.

Delighted dictator Kim Jong-il is expected to salute from the dais.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; Japan; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: annihilation; blackmail; dprk; evil; forces; kimjongil; northkorea; nukes; scud; taepodong; terror; threat; us; war
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To: AntiGuv
"No -Dong" missile? Doesnt sound very POTENT to me LOL
The Capt.
51 posted on 09/08/2003 2:47:23 PM PDT by Capt.YankeeMike (get outta my pocket, outta my car, and outta the schools)
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To: adam_az
N. Korea - "We'll open with a No Dong."

US - "We see that and raise you a 100 megaton device proudly called "Monster Big Balls".
52 posted on 09/08/2003 2:51:20 PM PDT by AmericaUnited
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To: AmericanInTokyo
There will not be a SINGLE DEMONSTRATION in the streets by peaceniks, either in......

If communist went against communism, what purpose would it serve? They'll celebrate a NK strike, in the name of saving lives [Somehow. Some way. It's liberal (il)logic.]

53 posted on 09/08/2003 2:51:35 PM PDT by concerned about politics (Lucifers lefties are still stuck at the bottom of Maslow's Hierarchy)
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To: AmericanInTokyo
Ya know...there was something bugging me about this announcement, and now I know what it is:

The original NoDong is approximately 17m high, 1.3m wide and has a 1300 mile range.

This article describes this new NODONG variant as being 15.5 meters tall, with performance characteristics that are in the TaepoDong II performance range.


The TaePoDong II is approximately 25 meters tall, 1.3 m in diameter, and has a 2500-2800 mile range.

I am betting the missile they are describing is a TPDII, versus a new NODONG variant. If it is a new NODONG variant, they have drastically increased their booster performance.


Just a thought.
54 posted on 09/08/2003 2:52:44 PM PDT by judicial meanz
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To: All
One important consideration here... If N.K. has indeed accomplished this, look out for Iran, Syria, the Sudan and Lybia.

Each of these states have been rumored to be Chinese client states. I don't believe for a moment that N.K. did all this work on their own.

Note that they haven't even tested much of this hardware. Was it tested elsewhere?

Nukes, missiles, launchers... none of it has been tested.
55 posted on 09/08/2003 2:58:08 PM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: AmericanInTokyo
Wouldnt it be something if we could launch a Tomahawk at that thing right in the middle of the parade.
56 posted on 09/08/2003 3:00:17 PM PDT by Husker24
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To: DoughtyOne
North Korea develops the missiles, and then Iran, Pakistan, or others test them.

The SHahab 3 missile in Iran is a NODONG missile, exported by North Korea. Once Iran tests the missile, they ship the test data to North Korea, and they make improvements. Same with Pakistan, and the others.

Thats how they get around the testing problem....or have been for the last 10 years or so.
57 posted on 09/08/2003 3:01:33 PM PDT by judicial meanz
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To: DoughtyOne
Why did you stop with your reasoning? You were right on track - the Chinese haven't done testing on this stuff either - WE DID. Thanks Clinton.

He gave our research to the Chinese, who in turn gave it to the DPRK, who then sell it to all of our enemies. That way it will be OUR FAULT when we are attacked by WMD, and The Ankle can go before the Senate and screech about it while she runs for president. Nice.....
58 posted on 09/08/2003 3:03:02 PM PDT by 11B3 (Communism is to the Democrats like lying, murdering, and treason is to the Clintons. Religion....)
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To: AmericanInTokyo
I kinda hope that they bring it on.

South Korea needs a new parking lot for all those Kia's and Hyundai's
59 posted on 09/08/2003 3:03:27 PM PDT by aShepard
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To: judicial meanz
Thanks for the comments.
60 posted on 09/08/2003 3:03:36 PM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: 11B3
I'm not convinced all these rockets have our tech in them yet, but I do believe it's an eventuality that we'll have to face. As for the ankle... ick.
61 posted on 09/08/2003 3:06:46 PM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: TheDon
That Clintoon legacy just keeps growing with time, don't it?

Yep, just like his friggin' nose........

62 posted on 09/08/2003 3:07:16 PM PDT by b4its2late (Why do croutons come in airtight packages? Aren't they just stale bread to begin with?)
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To: DoughtyOne
I don't believe for a moment that N.K. did all this work on their own.

Me either. Clinton helped out the Red Chinese and they are helping NK. We gave them the rope to hang us with, and they don't care who does the deed.

63 posted on 09/08/2003 3:09:20 PM PDT by b4its2late (Why do croutons come in airtight packages? Aren't they just stale bread to begin with?)
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To: DoughtyOne
No, you're right in that most of the tech in the launchers is old Soviet stuff, but the warheads and/or terminal guidance systems are ours I would bet.

Where's Tanya Harding when you need a broken Ankle?
64 posted on 09/08/2003 3:15:07 PM PDT by 11B3 (Communism is to the Democrats like lying, murdering, and treason is to the Clintons. Religion....)
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To: TheDon
He was the slickmeiser, wasn't he?
65 posted on 09/08/2003 3:23:00 PM PDT by xzins (In the Beginning Was the Word!)
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To: TheDon
He was the slickmeister, wasn't he?
66 posted on 09/08/2003 3:23:12 PM PDT by xzins (In the Beginning Was the Word!)
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To: adam_az
Yeah the next missile will have an extra stage added to it...they will unveil the Long-Dong at the next parade
67 posted on 09/08/2003 3:34:09 PM PDT by MD_Willington_1976
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To: Rummyfan
Yes, the Nodong missile, part of the 'Pecker' class of Korean ordnance.

Short-range ground-to-air: Needledong
Medium-range ballistic: Nodong
Long-range ballistic: Longdong
Rumored in development: BigJohnson MRV :)

68 posted on 09/08/2003 3:41:18 PM PDT by Sender
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To: Frank_Discussion
'lil Kim is all hat and No Dong

And some times Lil Kim has No-Bra

69 posted on 09/08/2003 3:41:26 PM PDT by MichiganConservative (Repeal the welfare state and the IRC.)
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To: MichiganConservative

Now it's clear why

http://en.rian.ru/rian/index.cfm?prd_id=160&msg_id=3437045&startrow=11&date=2003-09-08&do_alert=0
70 posted on 09/08/2003 3:42:57 PM PDT by Truth666
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To: AntiGuv
Speaking of hitting targets - didn't we just deploy missle batteries up in Alaska - in order to be prepared for any kind of missle NK might decide to throw at us.

Since I'm in San Diego, I'm not too worried about it - but I have family in Vancouver and Portland.
71 posted on 09/08/2003 3:46:27 PM PDT by CyberAnt ( America - "The Greatest Nation on the Face of the Earth")
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To: AmericanInTokyo
And after the first strike by the peaceful, peace loving people of the DPRK, how about we take every congresscritter voting against SDI and launch them by catapult into ground zero?
72 posted on 09/08/2003 3:54:38 PM PDT by NonValueAdded ("Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists." GWB 9/20/01)
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To: AmericanInTokyo
I think we settle all family business soon-- a preemtive nuke attack on North Korea is seeming prudent. Not to mention Iran and Pakistan.
73 posted on 09/08/2003 3:56:41 PM PDT by faithincowboys ( Are we going down hill like a snow ball headed for Hell?)
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To: AmericanInTokyo
It looks exactly like the mobile launchers of the Russians. The Russians and the Chiense are not our friends.
74 posted on 09/08/2003 3:59:48 PM PDT by faithincowboys ( Are we going down hill like a snow ball headed for Hell?)
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To: AmericanInTokyo
Thanks for the ping. I will check on the various Chinese news nets and see whether they have anything about this. Stay alert.
75 posted on 09/08/2003 4:05:57 PM PDT by FreepForever (ChiCom is the hub of all evil)
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To: AmericanInTokyo; Light Speed
Shortly after China forced down our Orion spy plane...

US Sub visit angers Japan

...and shortly after the USS Chicago visited Japan the crew were released...

Not that I trust in chariots, they are nice though...

76 posted on 09/08/2003 4:14:19 PM PDT by Jeremiah Jr (613)
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To: DoughtyOne
Re you #55

No, this is not rumor. See this.


77 posted on 09/08/2003 4:15:06 PM PDT by FreepForever (ChiCom is the hub of all evil)
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To: 11B3
LOL
78 posted on 09/08/2003 4:26:23 PM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: FreepForever
And who finances all this?

We do. Damnit our leaders are traitors.
79 posted on 09/08/2003 4:28:06 PM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: FreepForever
bump
80 posted on 09/08/2003 4:30:32 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (Islam : totalitarian political ideology / meme cloaked under the cover of religion)
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To: DoughtyOne
i prefer DING DONG as in "DING DONG, THE WITCH IS DEAD"
81 posted on 09/08/2003 4:32:01 PM PDT by y2k_free_radical (e)
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To: meyer
"NO DONG,THE WITCH IS DEAD" ?I wish.
82 posted on 09/08/2003 4:36:00 PM PDT by y2k_free_radical (e)
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To: DoughtyOne
EXCELLENT POINT
83 posted on 09/08/2003 4:38:14 PM PDT by y2k_free_radical (e)
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To: NoControllingLegalAuthority
Tomorrow's headline:

Kim-Jong has No-Dong

Sorry...couldn't help it

84 posted on 09/08/2003 4:38:36 PM PDT by aristotleman
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To: y2k_free_radical
http://www.memri.org/bin/latestnews.cgi?ID=SD56803

The following report is the seventh release from MEMRI's Baghdad office. It focuses on editorials which appeared in the Iraqi press regarding the assassination of Ayatollah Muhammad Baqir Al-Hakim, Iraq's relations with the Arab world, terrorism in Baghdad, as well as other issues relating to the rebuilding of Iraq.

News and Headlines

An Iraqi Expert: High Probability of Using Iraq's Airspace in an Israeli Military Operation Against Iran

The daily Al-Shira' (independent) claimed that 17 Israeli military experts spent some time recently in Iraq to study the possibility of using Iraq's airspace, in case other Arab airspace is not available, in a possible attack against Iranian nuclear plants. The paper quoted "an Iraqi military expert" as saying that "there are strategic factors in favor of using Iraq's airspace in such a military operation…" [20]

WE BETTER THANK THEM THIS TIME!!!!!





85 posted on 09/08/2003 4:41:43 PM PDT by OXENinFLA
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To: FreepForever
Yes, china, the center of "the axis of evil".
86 posted on 09/08/2003 4:43:05 PM PDT by monkeywrench
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To: y2k_free_radical
Be sure to read down in the thread. Some good info there.
87 posted on 09/08/2003 4:45:10 PM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: AmericanInTokyo
Thank you Jimmy Carter, Bill and Hellary Clinton for helping make the world a more danagerous place

May you rot in hell

88 posted on 09/08/2003 5:15:10 PM PDT by Mo1 (http://www.favewavs.com/wavs/cartoons/spdemocrats.wav)
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To: DoughtyOne
Is Afghani Opium listed on Nasdaq? : )
89 posted on 09/08/2003 5:36:30 PM PDT by Light Speed
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To: Light Speed
You've got me on that one.
90 posted on 09/08/2003 5:39:49 PM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: MD_Willington_1976
they will unveil the Long-Dong at the next parade

Will it be Silver?

sorry!

91 posted on 09/08/2003 5:50:46 PM PDT by NoControllingLegalAuthority
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To: DoughtyOne
Just kidding around....but seriously..as per Freeper Forevers spokewheel map above,
Opium and drug sales for weapons..is still a large part of the military procurement game.[not on the map..how come?]

China ..allthough said to be in conflict with "White powder whoever" who pushes Myanmanrs [Burma] Opium..has a back room concession arrangement with the Warlords on Opium.

Afghanistan is still producing Opium...Does Karzi look the other way?..part of the stay in Kabul...don't ask ..don't tell thingy?

Hashish still moves from the Lebanon...here Syria gets a cut allong with the clans of Lebanon.

Then..how much is World Bank..and IMF involved...ie..pay your loans..we won't ask how.

92 posted on 09/08/2003 5:51:07 PM PDT by Light Speed
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
Ripley: "I say we nuke them from orbit. It's the only way to be sure."
93 posted on 09/08/2003 5:51:49 PM PDT by delapaz
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To: AmericanInTokyo
Big deal, it can only hit California. Might be doing us a favor!
94 posted on 09/08/2003 5:52:08 PM PDT by thoughtomator (Israel is the canary in the coal mine of Islamofascism)
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To: Light Speed
I realize that is a factor to be considered. I wish it wasn't.
95 posted on 09/08/2003 5:55:08 PM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: judicial meanz; AmericanInTokyo
USA Today had an article the other day that indicated the administration was starting to look at concessions (read blackmail) to avert a catastrophe.

I'm a Bush supporter and admit I don't know what all our realistic options are in N. Korea, but submitting to blackmail does not seem to be a good idea.
96 posted on 09/08/2003 6:06:51 PM PDT by Peach (The Clintons have pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: DoughtyOne
Reading Bill Gertz excellent book about China is enough to make any reasonable person suspicious that China is behind a lot of this.

China sits on the cusp and it's a 50-50 shot which way they'll fall.
97 posted on 09/08/2003 6:08:28 PM PDT by Peach (The Clintons have pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: AmericanInTokyo
There will not be a SINGLE DEMONSTRATION in the streets by peaceniks, either in Paris, or Bonn, or London, or Amsterdam, or San Francisco, in OUTRAGE to this display of nuclear testing or missile provocation and military threats. Not a SINGLE DEMONSTRATION.

There won't be a single line of dissent or concern on International A.N.S.W.E.R.'s webpage.

No Howard Dean supporter, not a single one of them, getting out of his Miata, will express concern or anger.

That's really tells you something as to the greater question of whether these pacifist groups or ANTI WAR? or ANTI AMERICAN?

Why would they? If anything, there would be fansites in support of the NKs saying that they are the only communists left with the nads to defeat the decadant west.

98 posted on 09/08/2003 6:08:28 PM PDT by jriemer (We are a Republic not a Democracy)
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To: Rummyfan
I looked it up. "No-dong" is in Korean "Rodong", which means "Labor".

http://www.amritas.com/030104.htm#01040427
99 posted on 09/08/2003 7:11:20 PM PDT by Bogey78O (The Clinton's have pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured/killed -Peach)
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To: Light Speed
Hey, may be we should classify drugs and narcotics as Weapons of Mass Destruction also. LOL! They are similar in nature. Give me enough info and I will do another map on this issue.
100 posted on 09/08/2003 7:21:05 PM PDT by FreepForever (ChiCom is the hub of all evil)
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