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Iranian Alert -- September 18, 2003 -- IRAN LIVE THREAD PING LIST
The Iranian Student Movement Up To The Minute Reports ^ | 9.18.2003 | DoctorZin

Posted on 09/18/2003 12:07:31 AM PDT by DoctorZIn

The regime is working hard to keep the news about the protest movment in Iran from being reported.

From jamming satellite broadcasts, to prohibiting news reporters from covering any demonstrations to shutting down all cell phones and even hiring foreign security to control the population, the regime is doing everything in its power to keep the popular movement from expressing its demand for an end of the regime.

These efforts by the regime, while successful in the short term, do not resolve the fundamental reasons why this regime is crumbling from within.

Iran is a country ready for a regime change. If you follow this thread you will witness, I believe, the transformation of a nation. This daily thread provides a central place where those interested in the events in Iran can find the best news and commentary.

Please continue to join us here, post your news stories and comments to this thread.

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Iran rejects any EU precondition


Tehran, Sept 18 - Foreign Ministry Spokesman Hamid Reza Asefi expressed regret here Wednesday over statements made by the Italian representative to the European Union (EU) regarding Iran's nuclear program.

The envoy from Italy, which heads the rotating presidency of the EU, speaking at a public session of the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), said that EU's cooperation with Iran depends on Tehran's acceptance of the additional protocol to the Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT).

These statements which have been made under duress from some countries, provide no help to strengthen constructive Iran-IAEA cooperation, Asefi underlined.

"They will not deter Iran from its legitimate rights to have access to peaceful nuclear technology either."

Iran and EU have started their diplomatic and economic dialogue based on mutual respect, Asefi said adding "But, as Iran did not accept any precondition for these talks, it will not accept any preconditions for their continuation."

He also expressed hope that the EU will put pressure on Israel to come clean on its nuclear arsenal as well as clarify its position on efforts to prevent production and stockpiling of weapons of mass destruction to preserve international peace and security.

Speaking at a press conference, Italian Deputy Foreign Minister said the immediate and unconditional signing of the additional protocol by Iran is EU's condition for continuation of economic dialogue with Tehran.
3 posted on 09/18/2003 12:21:08 AM PDT by DoctorZIn
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OSLO 17 Sept. (IPS)

Olav Fjell, the chief executive of Statoil, Norway's state-owned oil company was voted to continue as the firm’s boss after a 13 hours questioning session by the company’s directors over a 15.5 million US Dollars bribes paid to an intermediary group to secure solid access in the lucrative Iranian oil market.

What makes the case interesting is that the man suspected to have opened the doors of Statoil to Iran’s south Pars gas fields in the Persian gulf is Mr. Mehdi Hashemi, one of the five children of Iran’s number two man, Ayatollah Ali Akbar Hashemi Rafsanjani.

According to Norwegian press, Statoil paid 15.5 millions to Horton Investments, a small company registered in Turks and Caicos Islands of the Caribbean and owned by a young Anglo-Iranian businessman named Abbas Yazdi, who hired Mr Hashemi, a Director of the National Iranian Oil Company for the purpose.

Statoil's board chairman, Leif Terje Loeddesoel, said on Wednesday at a news conference that the contract ''smelled bad", and he directed sharp criticism at Mr. Fjell. But he said that Mr. Fjell could continue in his job after explaining his actions in a 13-hour meeting that ended late Monday night.

Loeddesoel said the board agreed that the Iranian contract, with consultancy Horton Investment, should not have been signed, and that assessments made by Fjell prior to the deal were inadequate.

Norway's leading business daily newspaper, "Dagens Naeringsliv", quoted Mr. Fjell last week as saying he knew some of the money might go to Mehdi Hashemi Rafsanjani, whom Fjell said he knew "vaguely".

''The contract was with Horton Investment, a company owned by an Iranian living in London who has given us advice," Mr. Fjell said. "We have also had advice from the junior Rafsanjani, but I don't know what the financial relationship is between Horton Investment and Rafsanjani, if any."

Mr. Fjell said after the internal audition and that of the Police that the criticism he received on this matter were justified, adding that the contract was "a serious misstep".

The Norwegian police, who raided Statoil's offices last Thursday, questioned Mr. Fjell for two hours on Wednesday afternoon. The police said they were investigating whether the contract involved the ''illegal influencing of foreign government officials."

On Friday, and after that the press reported the financial scandal, Richard Hubbard, the Head of Statoil’s international exploration and production resigned abruptly and the company revoked the 11-year $15.2 million consultancy contract signed in 2002 with Horton, saying it would pay no more than the $5.2 million that it had already paid to the firm.

It is believed that it was Hubbard that introduced Statoil to Yazdi and his Horton Investments.

Spokesman Kai Nielsen said that Rafsanjani was one of the two consultants that the company had worked most with in Iran, alongside Horton Investment's owner Abbas Yazdi, who introduced Statoil to Rafsanjani.

Consultancy deals are not illegal in Norway but the police are understood to have acted on fears that some of the money paid to Horton Investment was really intended as a bribe to Iranian officials.

The contact signed with Iran thanks to the young Hashemi Rafsanjani stipulates for the Norwegian company to handle operation activities of the offshore's phases and requires it to invest about US dlrs 330 million in the projects. The buy-back contract's duration is 46 month.

Statoil will be reimbursed with the exploited condensate and other gas derivatives of the three phases or the exports revenues from the products.

Statoil's role would be to finance and oversee the building of three gas platforms in the Persian Gulf and a treatment plant for gas and light petroleum on land.

Radio Farda, the Persian service of the Prague-based Radio Free Europe-Radio Liberty quoted some days ago Mr. Mehdi Hashemi as having denied any bribe taking, reiterating that he nor anyone from the family hand anything to do with the case. ENDS NORWAY IRAN OIL AND BRIBE 17903
4 posted on 09/18/2003 12:22:01 AM PDT by DoctorZIn
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UK denies divided policy on Iran

Thursday, September 18, 2003 - ©2003

London, Sept 18, Irna -- Foreign Office Minister Chris Mullin denied that the prime minister`s office and foreign office were divided over the UK`s foreign policy towards Iran.

Accusation of the split were raised by Veteran conservative MP, Sir Teddy , in a brief debate on UK-Iran relations in parliament`s parrallel chamber, Wedminister Hall.

Taylor said that he was "very upset about the abrupt" change in British policy towards Iran, which he traced to prime minister Tony Blair`s meeting with Israel`s Ariel Sharon in London in July. He said it was a "huge error" to have negative relations with Iran.

Iran, he said, was "one of the most sensible countries in the middle east. The conservative MP compared the controvery over the government`s claim that Iraq could use weapons of mass destruction within 45 minutes with the 45 days demand made by the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) for Iran to cooperate.

He said he had been surprised by the demand because the last report from IAEA`s director general has said there had been increased cooperation with Iran and access had been given to additional locations.

It seemed "almost foolish and arrogant" to deal with Iran in such a way, Taylor said and suggested that the first basic issue for the US and UK to reolve was to have "humility."

He believed that the US and UK "only supported democracy when it suited" and quoted such examples as the support given to the deposed Shah OPF Iran and to Iraq in its war against Iran.

Then there was the "frightful destruction" of an Iranian Irbus over the Persian Gulf in 1988, which the US did not even apologise for, he said.

Although Taylor said he was not an expert on Iran and had never visited the country, but suggested that it was easy to see that Britain was thrwoing away an opportunity to improve relations and were instead treating Iran with "near contempt."

In response, Mullin said that there was "no doubt" that Iran was a country of growing international importance and there was a string British interest in the policies pursued by its government.

He described the British government`s policy towards Iran as persuing a "constructive but when necessary critical engagement" and cited cooperation in such areas as the fight against drugs, the reconstruction of Afghnaistan and in efforts to stabilise Iraq.

The UK supported president Mohammad Khatami`s Civil Society based upon the rule of law, the foreign office minister said. But although there was a string mandate for reform, he said the situation was complex and expressed hope he would succeed.

Mullin said that it would be wrong not to set out concerns about Iran, specifying there were worries about human rights, support for terrorist groups, the development of weapons of mass destruction and Iran`s nuclear program.

But he insisted the British government was united in its support against terrorism and would do all it can to support engagement in what he described as a "two-way process."
5 posted on 09/18/2003 12:23:18 AM PDT by DoctorZIn
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US blacklists Russian arms firm selling to Iran

Nick Paton Walsh in Moscow
Thursday September 18, 2003
The Guardian

The US has accused Russia of selling an advanced weapon to Iran and imposed sanctions on the state company involved.
The action has been taken just days before the Russian president, Vladimir Putin, is due to meet George Bush at the US presidential retreat, Camp David.

Tula KBP, a state-owned company making anti-aircraft and anti-missile devices, has been banned from doing business with the US and US companies for a year for selling the laser-guided Krasnopol M artillery shells to Iran.

Washington classifies Iran as a state sponsor of terrorism, and suspects it of having a nuclear weapons programme, under cover of a civil nuclear energy programme, in which Russian technology may play a part.

Yesterday the US undersecretary of state for arms control and international security, John Bolton, arrived in Moscow to discuss nuclear proliferation.

Russia's project to build an $800m nuclear reactor in Iran is expected to be high on the agenda.

Tula KBP said it had not sold any arms to Iran and that the sanctions were a political move without teeth, since the US was not one of its clients.

Washington has previously accused the company of sending radar equipment to Iraq and missiles to Syria.

In a notice published on Tuesday it said the government had "determined that the government of Russia trans ferred lethal military equipment to countries determined by the secretary of state to be state sponsors of terrorism".

The sanctions have largely been interpreted as a gesture intended to heap pressure upon Moscow to further cool its relations with Tehran.

Normally Washington would impose sanctions on the entire country for such a breach.

But in this instance it has decided not to cancel the millions of dollars aid it gives Russia annually because it regards the disposal of the former Soviet Union army's nuclear arsenal as vital to national security.

Russia has refused to bow to international opposition to a contract with Iran to build a nuclear reactor at Bushehr, despite admitting recently that it shares Washington's concern about nuclear proliferation.

Russia has tried to allay the concern about its transfer of nuclear energy technology to Iran by having Iran return the spent fuel.

The plan appeared to hit an obstacle last week when Tehran demanded payment for the spent fuel.

But on Tuesday the Russian minister for atomic energy, Alexander Rumyantsev, said Iran and Russia had "no contradictions".

No date has yet been set for signing the contract.

An Iranian delegation is expected in Moscow next week to complete matters.

Many argue that the fuel is not the key issue.

A European diplomat said yesterday: "There is concern that the considerable number of Russian engineers living in Iran, and Iranian engineers coming to Russia to learn about nuclear science, might be gaining or trans ferring knowledge that could be accelerating Iran's nuclear weapons programme."

Hundreds of Iranians have been trained at nuclear technology institutes in various parts of Russia.

But Moscow insists that the students are taught only the technical language and the skills needed for peaceful energy plants.

Russian officials said there was no point putting pressure on them.

"It is not the first time America has made such demands, but there is no basis for it," a senior foreign ministry official said.

"In Russia we have very strict export controls. It is difficult to understand what their motivations are.",12858,1044245,00.html
6 posted on 09/18/2003 12:24:04 AM PDT by DoctorZIn
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Saudis consider nuclear bomb

Ewen MacAskill and Ian Traynor in Vienna
Thursday September 18, 2003
The Guardian

Saudi Arabia, in response to the current upheaval in the Middle East, has embarked on a strategic review that includes acquiring nuclear weapons, the Guardian has learned.
This new threat of proliferation in one of the most dangerous regions of the world comes on top of a crisis over Iran's alleged nuclear programme.

A strategy paper being considered at the highest levels in Riyadh sets out three options:

· To acquire a nuclear capability as a deterrent;

· To maintain or enter into an alliance with an existing nuclear power that would offer protection;

· To try to reach a regional agreement on having a nuclear-free Middle East.

Until now, the assumption in Washington was that Saudi Arabia was content to remain under the US nuclear umbrella. But the relationship between Saudi Arabia and the US has steadily worsened since the September 11 attacks on New York and Washington: 15 of the 19 attackers were Saudi.

It is not known whether Saudi Arabia has taken a decision on any of the three options. But the fact that it is prepared to contemplate the nuclear option is a worrying development.

United Nations officials and nuclear arms analysts said the Saudi review reflected profound insecurities generated by the volatility in the Middle East, Riyadh's estrangement with Washington and the weakening of its reliance on the US nuclear umbrella.

They pointed to the Saudi worries about an Iranian prog-ramme and to the absence of any international pressure on Israel, which has an estimated 200 nuclear devices.

"Our antennae are up," said a senior UN official watching worldwide nuclear proliferation efforts. "The international community can rest assured we do keep track of such events if they go beyond talk."

Saudi Arabia does not regard Iran, a past adversary with which Riyadh has restored relations, as a direct threat. But it is unnerved by the possibility of Iran and Israel having nuclear weapons.

Riyadh is also worried about a string of apparent leaks in American papers from the US administration critical of Saudi Arabia.

David Albright, director of the Institute for Science and International Security, a Washington thinktank, said he doubted whether the Saudis would try to build a nuclear bomb, preferring instead to try to buy a nuclear warhead. They would be the first of the world's eight or nine nuclear powers to have bought rather than built the bomb.

"There has always been worries that the Saudis would go down this path if provoked," said Mr Albright. "There is growing US hostility which could lead to the removal of the US umbrella and will the Saudis be intimidated by Iran? They've got to be nervous."

UN officials said there have been rumours going back 20 years that the Saudis wanted to pay Pakistan to do the research and development on nuclear weapons.

In 1988, Saudi bought from China intermediate-range missiles capable of reaching any part of the Middle East with a nuclear warhead.

Four years ago, Saudi Arabia sent a defence team to Pakistan to tour its secret nuclear facilities and to be briefed by Abdul Qader Khan, the father of Pakistan's nuclear bomb.

A UN official said: "There's obviously a lot of restlessness in the Middle East. Regional insecurity tends to produce a quest for a nuclear umbrella. The Saudis have the money and could provide it to Pakistan."

Mr Albright said the Saudis would face a long haul if they were determined to acquire nuclear weapons. He doubted whether anyone would sell.

Arab countries yesterday urged the International Atomic Energy Authority, the UN nuclear watchdog, to get tough with Israel to let inspectors assess its nuclear programme in line with similar pressure on Iran.

Oman's ambassador to the IAEA, Salim al-Riyami, speaking on behalf of the Arab League, which represents Arab states, said it was time to get tough with Israel. "I think it's time to deal with this issue more substantively than before," he said.,11599,1044402,00.html
7 posted on 09/18/2003 12:28:16 AM PDT by DoctorZIn
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Mehdi Semati and Nasser Hadian: 9/17/03
A EurasiaNet commentary

US policy towards Iran must tread a fine line. The Bush administration is in danger of succumbing to wishful thinking by holding out hope that Iran’s conservative leaders can be toppled by popular protests. Instead, Washington should engage Tehran, offering support that encourages the democratization of Iranian society.

The student protests that shook Iran in June underscored the possibility that the same forces that helped forge the Islamic republic could also, at least in theory, bring it down.

The Bush administration seized on the student demonstrations to encourage broader popular protests, evidently in the hope that they could topple Iran’s conservative leadership.

Washington’s desire to foment anti-conservative protests in Iran seems to have cooled in recent weeks. Nevertheless, the Bush administration’s hostility towards Iran remains self-evident. Such hostility is potentially counterproductive to promoting regional stability.

While the student action in June was significant, its role in changing the political dynamics in Iran should not be exaggerated. A more nuanced understanding of what is happening in Iran today is needed to prevent the United States from taking steps that could actually damage democratization prospects in Iran.

The June protests can be considered a continuation of the 1999 student demonstrations, a seminal political moment that shook Iran. What began as student protests against privatizing higher education turned into a highly politicized call for democracy and freedom. Yet even if new protests erupt down the road, producing dramatic images beamed around the world, the Bush administration needs to understand the student movement’s limitations.

The bottom line is that the student protests were not as widespread and vociferous as they were portrayed in media reports. To begin with, the students had little organization, no cohesive leadership structure, and lacked clearly defined objectives. In general, Iranian students have tended to react to government decisions or actions. They have usually not been proactive in shaping the public political agenda with a formal organization or a detailed agenda. Finally, conservative authorities took action to ensure that the student movement doesn’t coalesce into a threat. Over 2,000 students, including most of the protest leaders, were jailed during the protests and their aftermath. Many remain imprisoned.

The fact that the student action did not foster broader protests is an important point. The lack of wider or visible participation is just one of several signs of the loss of public confidence in the once popular reform movement. Judging by the low turnout in the local elections of February 2003, Iranians have little or no faith in the movement’s leadership, which has failed to fulfill bold promises of introducing the rule of law, democracy, and a free press.

The reform movement, led by President Mohammad Khatami, will now either have to become more energized in confronting conservative forces, or face becoming irrelevant.

Large numbers of Iranians have resisted getting involved because of a fundamental weariness and wariness about embracing radical ways to promote political change. The initial trauma and ongoing costs of the 1979 Islamic revolution have made most Iranians timid about participating in protests that might spark a second revolution or a counter-revolution. Most today distinctly prefer steady progress to revolution.

Rather than encourage student protests, it is far more important for Iran’s democratization potential to assist the development of civil society, especially promoting a body of non-government institutions that give people in all democracies the opportunity to participate in the issues and decisions that most impact their lives. Iran today has a vacuum of these intermediary institutions, from trade unions and public interest groups to volunteer associations. This is the issue critical to Iran’s political future. To a large extent, Iranian hardliners have managed to retain power by weakening or eliminating any institution that keeps open the channels of communication between state and society.

The Bush administration’s response to the June protests—through its expression of support for the aspirations of the Iranian people and calling on them to take action--is insufficient and perhaps unhelpful. Any semblance of outside interference actually discredits the students and strengthens the hardliners’ position. In addition, extremists from both right and left, and from inside and outside Iran, appear poised to try to utilize for their own political gain any tension that is generated by future protests.

Statements are no substitute for a comprehensive policy that addresses US concerns about conservative-controlled Iran. Those concerns have potentially serious consequences, including the development of weapons of mass destruction, terrorism, Iraq, and the Middle East peace process. At the same time, Iran’s national security needs, regional role, and economic interests ought to be considered as factors in the geopolitical equation.

Ultimately, to address all these concerns, it might prove more prudent for Washington to adopt a policy that helps the Iranian people make progress in a long struggle for a democratic society. That struggle actually began with the Constitutional Rebellion a century ago.

Editor’s Note: Nasser Hadian is on the faculty in the Department of Political Science at the Tehran University and currently a Visiting Scholar at the Middle East Institute of Columbia University. Mehdi Semati is on the faculty in the Department of Speech Communication at Eastern Illinois University.
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Britain, Iran and archaic fears

The arrest in the UK of Hadi Soleimanpour, Iran’s former ambassador to Argentina, has again displayed the volatility and fragility of Anglo-Iranian relations. The arrest is unlikely to amount to anything significant ­ in fact it is probably not the most important factor behind the recent tension in bilateral relations. Nevertheless, it is a reminder that for as long as memories of Britain’s colonial adventures linger in the Iranian psyche, the two countries will probably not enjoy sustained normal relations.
The origins of concerted British influence in Iran date back to the early 19th century, when Qajar Persia was perceived to pose a moderate threat to the western flank of the British Raj. By the middle of the century, the increasingly corrupt Qajar dynasty had fallen under British influence, and Iran had become a central component in the “Great Game” between the British Empire and Tsarist Russia for control of Central Asia.
British visitors to Iran are amazed at the longevity of Iranian delusions about the so-called “perennial” nature of British power. Iranians of the older generation still cling to the idea that Britain virtually controls the world. These victims of a post-colonial inferiority complex put an interesting spin on the reality of contemporary American power. The US, they argue, is a smokescreen for British domination.
Yet Iran was never colonized by Britain. Therefore, what is it that drives the intensity of this collective delusion? Ironically, the very fact that Britain never “directly” ruled Iran, choosing, instead, to gain almost complete control over the country in a subtle and clandestine manner. Britain imposed upon Iran’s incompetent elites exploitative trade concessions, such as the 1872 Reuter concession to build a railroad, the 1890 tobacco concession and the 1901 William D’Arcy oil concession.
Britain also directly influenced Iranian politics. It was partly responsible for frustrating the goals of the constitutional revolution of the early 20th century, and changed Iran’s rulers when they no longer served British interests. A case in point is the rise to power of the semi-literate Cossack officer Reza Khan Pahlavi ­ father of the last shah, Mohammad Reza Pahlavi ­ who took office on the back of a British-sponsored coup in 1921. The British forced him out in 1941, after he forged a close relationship with Nazi Germany.
Britain’s disregard for Iran’s neutrality during the two world wars, its subsequent invasion of the country, its exploitation of Iranian oil for over 50 years and its perceived pervasive influence, firmly buttressed Britain’s “incorrigible” colonial nature in the collective Iranian mind. Yet the victory of the Islamic revolution in 1979, by displacing the old corrupt elites and securing the country’s political independence, provided Iran and Britain with an opportunity to start afresh.
Initially, relations were drastically curbed as a result of upheavals in the 1980s. The British Embassy was closed down in 1980 and Sweden became the representative of British interests in Iran.
Yet relations were restored in autumn 1988. While these generated hopes that ties would substantially improve, they have been repeatedly dashed during the past 15 years. Every time relations were on the up, crises seemingly appeared from nowhere to sabotage what had been achieved. In February 1989 it was the Salman Rushdie affair. Once the issue was settled in September 1998 and relations upgraded to ambassadorial level in May 1999, a row broke out over what the Iranians considered excessive MI6 activity from the unusually large British Embassy in Tehran. In fact, in February 2002 Iran refused to endorse the ambassadorship of David Reddaway on the grounds that he was a top MI6 operative.
And now there is the Soleimanpour case. The obstructions to fully normalized Anglo-Iranian relations will not be lifted until memories of Britain’s highly questionable historic role in Iran fade. Iran’s new elites, of whatever ideological orientation, while they do not share the old generation’s delusions, still need time to get over their “British” hang-up. There is little prospect of this in the near future. In fact the two countries may be destined to endure another generation of volatile relations. This does not seem long taken in the context of 200 years of history. However, in the current international climate it assumes crushing significance.
The prospect of uneasy relations is particularly unfortunate for Iran, as it needs Britain on its side in the face of unprecedented American attempts to isolate and demonize the country internationally. This helps explain the Islamic Republic’s reluctance to make a fuss over the Soleimanpour case. Iran recently announced it would be sending its ambassador back to London. Clearly, it cannot afford a rupture in relations at such a critical juncture.
However, there are unmistakable signs that Britain will adopt positions that are increasingly in tandem with those of the US administration. Therefore, irrespective of the idiosyncrasies of Anglo-Iranian relations, Iranian policy-makers should not rely on British support in the crises likely to engulf the Islamic Republic in the coming years, particularly over calls for stricter International Atomic Energy Agency inspections of Iran’s nuclear industry.
It is also unfortunate for Iran that British Prime Minister Tony Blair has proved to be uniquely hawkish, with an ingrained skepticism of Iran. On Sept. 4, The Guardian newspaper was moved to publish an analysis claiming that Britain radically altered its Iran policy last July, after Blair had dinner with Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon. The prospect of an alliance between Blair and Sharon must cause intense unease in Tehran. The fact that Israel might exert influence on British policy is proof that the UK’s influence in the Middle East is now negligible. More precisely, the only state in the world that has a sizeable impact on shaping US policy towards Iran is Israel.
However, these realities are unlikely to have any impact on the collective delusion of millions of Iranians. To them the “old fox,” as Britain is sometimes called, is behind every major political event in the world.

Mahan Abedin is a London-based financial consultant and analyst of Iranian politics. He wrote this commentary for THE DAILY STAR
9 posted on 09/18/2003 1:36:30 AM PDT by F14 Pilot
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U.S. Still Hopes to Talk Russia Round on Iran Nukes

September 18, 2003

By Richard Balmforth

The United States is confident proof will soon emerge of a clandestine Iranian nuclear arms program that will force Russia to drop plans to help Tehran build a nuclear reactor, a top U.S. official said on Thursday.

Speaking in Moscow on condition of anonymity, the senior administration official said Russia would not ship fuel to enable the 1,000-megawatt Bushehr reactor to become active until early next year, giving Washington time to dissuade it:

"Each day that goes by that that has not happened gives more time to see if we can't bring the Russians into closer alignment with our analysis of the threat posed by the Iranian program."

Tehran denies Washington's accusation it is using Bushehr and other facilities as a front for developing an atomic bomb.

U.S. Undersecretary of State John Bolton met Russian Deputy Foreign Minister Sergei Kislyak on Wednesday in a new bid to get Moscow to abandon the $800-million Bushehr project, an irritant in relations that will figure prominently when presidents Vladimir Putin and George W. Bush meet at Camp David next week.

Russian officials share concerns at stopping the spread of nuclear arms but say U.S. suspicions against Iran lack proof.

Kislyak, in an interview with the newspaper Vremya Novostei, appeared to confirm Moscow was still moving ahead on the Bushehr plans, saying work was being completed with Iran on a bilateral protocol for the return of spent reactor fuel to Moscow.

The United States is hoping confirmation of its suspicions will emerge from the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA).

That, the U.S. official said, would let Washington raise the issue at the U.N. Security Council, sure at last of support from Russia and others that still doubt Tehran is developing weapons.

"Once it becomes clear that they (the Iranians) have a nuclear weapons program, Russia will not have civil nuclear cooperation with Iran," the official said.

The IAEA has given Iran until October 31 to enable it to check whether it has an illicit atomic arms program.

U.S. officials, keen to maintain good personal relations between Putin and Bush, are quick to say that Russian nuclear cooperation with Iran is more a matter of muddled policy than deliberate connivance with one of Washington's adversaries.

But the official said U.S. intelligence was convinced maverick Russian scientists were helping Iran develop weapons.

10 posted on 09/18/2003 5:01:53 AM PDT by Pan_Yans Wife ("Life isn't fair. It's fairer than death, is all.")
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Jordan's King Sees Hope for Iran Talks
Abdullah to Meet With Bush Today
Glenn Kessler
Washington Post
Thursday, September 18, 2003

Jordan's King Abdullah, who visited Iran earlier this month and is scheduled to meet with President Bush at Camp David today, said yesterday that "there is common grounds for dialogue" between the United States and Iran on the situation in Iraq and that Iranian leaders are eager to settle a fierce dispute over its nuclear program.

Abdullah stressed that he was not carrying any messages from Iranian leaders to Bush, but would merely give his impressions to the president and his senior advisers.

"It's up to them to see if they feel there is enough there to follow up," Abdullah said in a wide-ranging interview with Washington Post editors and reporters. "I would hope that they would. My impression was that there's enough common ground, as I said, to [approve] maybe a shift in policy, but that's a decision that [Bush is] going to make."

Bush last year named Iran as part of an "axis of evil" that included North Korea and the former government of Iraq. But the administration has been deeply split over policy toward the Islamic republic, with some State Department officials pressing for a thaw in relations, only to meet stiff resistance from Pentagon and White House officials.

Since the war with Iraq, relations with Iran have soured further over continuing revelations about its nuclear program and allegations that it harbors al Qaeda leaders implicated in the bombings May 13 of residential compounds in Saudi Arabia. U.S. officials had conducted several private talks with Iranian officials, primarily to discuss Iraq and Afghanistan, but U.S. officials suspended those talks after the bombings in May.

Iran has signaled through various channels that it is eager to resume discussions with the United States over Iraq, apparently modeled on talks held after the war against Afghanistan. Iranian diplomats, including Iran's ambassador to the United Nations, have publicly supported greater dialogue between Iran and the United States on how best to stabilize Iraq.

Regarding the breakdown in the Middle East peace process, Abdullah said that "all of us are extremely frustrated and, to an extent, confused." He faulted the Israelis for not being more supportive of recently resigned Palestinian Prime Minister Mahmoud Abbas, saying, "They could have made his life a bit easier, and . . . now we're back to the drawing board."

Abdullah, who last year first floated the idea of crafting a "road map" that would guide the peace process, also suggested that the U.S. effort to monitor the road map had been too quiet, and that there was now a need for a more public accounting of what each side needs to do. "We need a stronger international mechanism . . . so that everybody knows where people are deficient," he said.

On another issue, Abdullah said there had been no discussions of settling a Jordanian bank fraud case against Ahmed Chalabi, a favorite of the Pentagon who has emerged as a power broker in postwar Iraq. "It is a major issue, and it is a problem," Abdullah said, adding that it would need to be addressed if Chalabi "becomes an Iraqi official of some standing."

Regarding Iran and its nuclear program, the Bush administration recently persuaded the International Atomic Energy Agency to set an Oct. 31 deadline for Iran to cooperate with an investigation. The Bush administration contends the program is a front for a nuclear weapons project. Iran vehemently denies it is making nuclear weapons, and its delegation stormed out of the IAEA session when the resolution was adopted last week.

Abdullah said he spent a lot of time speaking to the Iranians about their nuclear program during his two-day visit. "I could feel that this was on top of their minds," he said. "They want to deal with the international community and put this behind them as quickly as possible in a positive way."

Abdullah noted that Jordan has had problems with the Iranians sponsoring terrorist attacks against American, Israeli and British citizens, but based on his conversations with the various religious and political power centers in Iran, "their use of Jordan for terrorism is now no longer an issue," he said. He said the visit, the first by a Jordanian ruler since Iran's 1979 revolution, was a "very pleasant surprise" and offered "a lot of hope."

Abdullah said the Iranians are "the smartest people out in the Middle East at reading the political maps. And they have a long-term attitude; their policy is not five or 10 years, it's 50." He added that they are particularly concerned "that the growing instability of Iraq could fan out and hurt everybody."

Abdullah declined to discuss whether the Iranians addressed Bush administration allegations that they have harbored al Qaeda operatives. "We'll see what comes out of [the Camp David discussions] and then maybe afterwards we can get into that," he said.

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Carter says U.S. needs to push harder for peace

WASHINGTON -- The Bush administration must push harder -- and be evenhanded -- to revive sagging peace hopes in the Middle East, former President Carter said Monday.

In an Associated Press interview 25 years after the Camp David accords, Carter said Israel and the Palestinians had not only abandoned the U.S.-backed road map for peace but had violated it -- Israel by threatening the ''removal'' of Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat. He suggested the Bush administration was tilted toward Israel.
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U.S.: Iran giving haven to al-Qaida

Bloomberg News

The U.S. believes Iran is giving "safe haven" to al-Qaida leaders, some of whom are responsible for a series of bombings May 12 in Saudi Arabia, a State Department official told Congress on Wednesday.
Paula DeSutter, the assistant U.S. secretary of State for verification and compliance, described U.S. suspicions about al-Qaida in Iran to a hearing of a joint U.S.-Israeli legislative panel meeting in Washington.
Iran has previously reported capturing some al-Qaida members and said it intends either to try them or release them to their home countries. It has not, however, extradited them and U.S. officials have previously expressed uncertainty about Iran's actions and intentions.
"We believe that some elements within the Iranian regime have helped al-Qaida terrorists transit or find safe haven inside Iran," DeSutter told the U.S.-Israeli Joint Parliamentary Committee.
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Youth Should Take Pride in Living Under Islamic System, Leader Says

TEHRAN -- The Leader of the Islamic Revolution Ayatollah Seyed Ali Khamenei in a gathering of pupils here on Wednesday said that the youth and young adults are determined to build up a glorious future for their homeland through their talent, incessant scientific attempts, faith and chastity.

Referring to the gifted young generation of high intellect, as a privilege and honor, the Leader added that the enemies of Islam and Iran attempt to interfere with the education trend in the country to abort the national will to build up an independent and free country, IRNA reported.

Criticizing those elaborating on diversion of young generation either orally or in written form, he noted that such individuals, similar to the enemies, exaggerate the few mistakes and errors of a limited number of the youth.

Turning to proper grounds available for building up a bright future, Iran's extra-sensitive geopolitical stance, its glorious and honorable history and its abundant natural resources, he said that Iran's manpower is known as one of the most gifted in the world so that its average intelligence rate is higher than the rest of the world. Referring to examples of the great talent of the Iranian youth including scholars' access to advanced nuclear technology, he added, "Given that the world powers have classified the atomic know-how as the most confidential science, they ban any access to it.”

"However, the Iranian youth of high intellect have managed to gain access to it and the world powers have protested to such an achievement," he added.

Ayatollah Khamenei said that the victory of the Islamic Republic in Iran has paved the way for development of the potentials of the Iranian youth.

"Under the dictatorial rule of ex-Shah, our dear homeland was the paradise of the world plunderers, but the Iranian nation managed to get rid of the illegal ruling of the corrupt statesmen and the foreign treacherous influence.

"Once Islam was given its true and deserving stance, it frightened the world despotic powers and while giving the nations a lesson on resistance provided the grounds for building up a bright future in Iran," he added.

The Leader pointed out that the youth should take pride in living in the affectionate bosom of the Islamic system and wished a happy new academic year for the pupils and students, given the concurrence of the auspicious occasion of Mab'ath (the day Mohammad (SA) was appointed as the prophet of Islam) with the opening of schools and universities (September 24).

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" Nasser Hadian is on the faculty in the Department of Political Science at the Tehran University and currently a Visiting Scholar at the Middle East Institute of Columbia University. Mehdi Semati is on the faculty in the Department of Speech Communication at Eastern Illinois University. "

I thought maybe these guys worked for the regime.
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(( A very good article, A Must read one ))- Pilot

"Communist Democracy" in Iran

It has been over 30 years since the success of Communists in Vietnam and despite all the sacrifices of people's democratic movement inside Vietnam and elsewhere in the world in the years before 1973, what the Vietnamese people achieved in 1973, was another dictatorship worse that what they had in the past. Today the national firewall of Internet by the Vietnamese Communist regime blocking the political websites has set the precedent for other despotic regimes such as Islamic Republic of Iran (IRI) to follow.

Five years after the Vietnamese, in 1979, Iranian people, despite all the sacrifices of the democratic movement, achieved a reactionary Islamist despotic regime of IRI. No Vietnamese has any illusion of "Communist Democracy" just as no Iranian has any illusion of "Islamic Democracy" seeing it as Islamist fascism in disguise. Nonetheless most of the Iranian intellectuals are still believers in the "Communist Democracy" and they all like to refer to the European social-democratic and socialist governments as examples of such a dream.

Why socialist and communist parties in Europe were able to form states of so-called "socialist or communist democracy" in Europe is not because of their program being much different from the same parties in former Soviet Union and Eastern Block, China, Vietnam, Cuba and North Korea. Even Communist Parties just like the Social-Democratic Parties were able to lead *democratic* states in Europe, although they had the same statism and state economy in their program like the Russian Communist party, platforms that were responsible for the despotic nature of Soviet and Eastern Block states. The difference in the Western Europe, is that the institutions of judgment by the people are strong in the West, thanks to a long history of Renaissance and Reformation, and thus the socialist and communist parties cannot rule like they do in China or Vietnam. Please read my following articles where I explain the issue of institutions of judgment by the people in details:

The above is also true about democratic monarchies like UKand Sweden and the rule of so-called religious democratic politics of the likes of Christian Democrats in Germany. These oxymorons of politics are not harbingers of dictatorial regimes in Europe because they all have to abide by institutions of judgment by the people which control Europe and are rooted in Europe. The only statist party that tried to eliminate the institutions of judgment by the people in Europe was Nazi Party and the Western societies eliminated it within ten years, which again shows how the institutions of judgment by the people are the determining factor in the Western Europe.

In contrast, all the oxymorons like "Islamic Democracy" or "Communist Democracy" utopias for a country like Iran where the institutions of judgment by the people are extremely weak, mean the despotism of Islamism and Communism at the end. If the Communist version of this has not been experienced by the Iranian people, it has been experienced by the Vietnamese who would laugh at such oxymoron because they know communist statism means the Communist bosses will rule the country in name of the state sitting at the top of the state economy where they pay the people and not taxpayers paying them and when there are no strong institutions of judgment by the people in the country to be able to challenge the state. Iran and Vietnam are not like Western Europe to have so many social institutions doing checks and balances of the state regardless of Communists ruling or Christians or Monarchs.

In fact, in countries like Iran, at the beginning of a new change, it is important to have parties like the original U.S. Democratic Party of Jefferson, to lead the nation, parties that in their platform not only recognize human rights and democratic development but more importantly oppose state ownership. The state ownership is the foundation of despotism in these countries and even the media will be subordinate to state under state economy and this is why people end up listening to foreign media to hear the true news because the internal news is none but the state's news.

It is so unfortunate that 24 years after the success of Islamism in Iran, the majority of opposition political organizations of Iran are still leftist. Even the papers like Iran Emrooz that pretend to be liberal democratic are actually leftist and censor the views that fundamentally challenge the left and Communism. All the records of despotism in Soviet Union is now out and they still do not say a word about how Communism was despotism for over half of the world and keep misleading people with stories of social democracy of Europe the same way the monarchists tell people stories of democratic monarchies of Europe like Sweden.

Instead they have a facade of a new oxymoron called "Communist Democracy" and are busy defending the current ongoing oxymoron of "Islamic Democracy" of Khatami which has meant nothing but Islamist fascism and all the murders and reactionary retrogression in Iran has been the same during their rule and when the likes of Khalkhali are considered by Khatami as the reformists sitting next to him.

Why after 24 years the Iranian intellectuals are not able to cut off from over a half century of siding with the left which has been a mistake. The leftists were lucky they did not come to power in 1979, or else the wrath of Iranians would not be for Islamists today, but for the leftists. Actually Islamists have been driving the programs of the left, and they had the support of the left in important junctures like at the time of hostage-taking, although at the same time the left itself was murdered by IRI. If in Iran, the left had won power like in Vietnam or Cambodia, the people would never even touch a leftist group with a ten foot stick.

Iranian intellectuals have already wasted enough time in the last one hundred years and especially in the last half a century with leftist ideologies. It is amazing that even the organizations like Jebhe Melli and Jebhe Demokratik are mostly driven by leftist platforms. It is as if the left's programs and on top of it state economy, statism, and anti-globalization have not shown their failures enough by those in power in Vietnamese Communism and Iranian Islamism, that these opposition forces are calling for the same platforms for future Iran, programs that are the underlying reason of despotism in Vietnam and Iran.

The Iranian intellectual papers are all siding with reactionary anti-globalization movements and they have made it the norm in the progressive circles to be anti-globalization. They are like Luddites attacking globalization. In the Iranian progressive circles, they all are siding with the anti-globalization movements rather than siding with political approaches of the likes of Singapore that are taking advantage of globalization for their own rapid growth.

"Communist Democracy" is an oxymoron Utopia worse than Communism, the same way "Islamic Democracy" is a worse Utopia than Islamism because they hide the harsh reality of Communism and Islamism. Stalinism and Khomeinism are what these statist platforms will bring for countries like Vietnam and Iran, and not a Swedish type socialism or an imaginary democratic American Islamism. Yes, those who really want to make an "Islamic Democracy", they should try to make the U.S. an Islamic state because in a country like the U.S., with all the powerful institutions of judgment by the people, an "Islamic democracy" can become a reality despite the statism and despotism of the Islamist ideology and the same is true for other statist and despotic systems like Communism or Monarchism.

Just as a Swedish democratic monarchy can be a reality for Sweden and not for Iran where the monarchy will be a despotic monarchy as I have discussed before, and the so-called "Communist Democracy" will be the same. I hope our intellectuals do not mislead people by selling Communism, Islamism, and Monarchism, giving the European examples as proof for these models to offer "democracy" for Iran. We suffered one time in 1979 by misleading people about the so-called "democratic" Islamism of Khomeini to be an exception, let's not make the same mistake again. Of course people should be free to have any opinion they want, but if the majority of intellectuals who are the opinion leaders push for Communism, Baathism, or Islamism, what can one expect of the end result?

Those who really want to have a democracy in Iran should go for a thoroughgoing democratic and futurist platform and should distance themselves from Leftism, Islamism, or monarchy. The reality is that most of the intellectuals who even supported Islamism were following the left and because they were leftist, they supported Islamism and today they are supporting some Baathist version of Islamism as "Islamic Democracy", the same way other leftists in Iraq and Syria before them, supported Baath coming to power in those countries, with the hope of Utopia of "Communist Democracy" to be achieved at the end.

I just hope that Iranian intellectuals to wake up from the long hold of leftism on Iranian intellectual mind and not wait for the next Baathist or Communist state to block all Internet political sites like the Vietnamese state, to wake up when it is too late, and I hope in the next two years not to see the majority of Iranian political groups to be leftist like it is today, in open or in disguise. The experience of Vietnamese and Syrian intellectuals who have run away from the Communist state and the Baathist states of Vietnam and Syria, and the role they played to create those states, should be a good lesson for Iranian intellectuals before Iran ends up in a similar Baathist /Communist state.

Hoping for a Futurist, Federal, Democratic, and Secular Republic in Iran,

Sam Ghandchi, Publisher/Editor
IRANSCOPE Portal Iranian Site of Iran News and Iranian Culture
Sept 17, 2003
16 posted on 09/18/2003 7:50:24 AM PDT by F14 Pilot
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Thursday, 18 September, 2003,

Iran: An Islamic experiment

By Jim Muir
BBC Tehran Correspondent

Iran's Islamic Republic is unique not only in the world - where there are few enough other Islamic republics, and none at all where the Shia branch of Islam prevails - but also in Iran itself.
Never before have the clergy held full political power in the country, though they have usually been one of several important political forces.

So it is a unique experiment, and one which is currently in a state of acute ferment, with the outcome highly uncertain.

Some analysts argue that from the outset, there was a stark contradiction built into the regime's foundations, crystallised in the two words of its very name: Islamic and Republic.

To many, the first concept implies some form of divine rule, of theocracy; and the second means democracy, rule by the people.

That perceived contradiction is at the heart of today's intensifying struggle between reformists and hard-liners within the Iranian Islamic system.

The Supreme Leader

The reformists, led by the massively-elected President Mohammad Khatami and with a big majority in the current parliament, argue that ultimate sovereignty lies with the people, and that the entire political establishment - including the Supreme Leadership - should be responsive, transparent and accountable to the electorate.

While the reformists accept in principle the concept of Velayet e Feghih (the Rule of the Supreme Jurisconsult) which is one of the pillars of the Iranian Islamic regime, many of them would prefer the role of the Supreme Leader (the Vali e Feghih) to be ethereal and advisory, almost papal, rather than political, intrusive, and engaged with the levers of temporal power, as it currently very much is.

By contrast, most conservatives, and certainly the hard-liners, believe that the Vali e Feghih has a kind of divinely-bestowed authority which makes his intervention, on any issue he chooses, decisive and unchallengeable.

For some of them, it is at the core of the regime, its power and authority, and the trappings of democracy are ultimately little more than window-dressing.

One of the most common slogans chanted by Hezbollahis, Basijis and other hard-line defenders of the regime in confrontation with student or other protestors is: "Death to the opponents of the Velayet e Feghih!"

Growing alienation

There is little doubt that the Islamic system was starting to drift badly out of touch with the people by 1997, when President Khatami suddenly burst on the scene with his surprise landslide victory.

Inefficiency, pervasive corruption and a general failure to move with the times were seen as the main factors behind a growing alienation.

Khatami and the reformists seemed to offer an answer to all that for the people - and for the regime, a new lease of life.

His idea of Islamic people's sovereignty held out the prospect of a system where the people's vote could make a difference and bring about change, where officials become servants not masters, where religion would imbue the country's values but not intrude oppressively as an imposed system.

He spoke directly to the vast new generation of young Iranians, and to women, and they responded massively.

"Iranians are traditionally very religious, but also open to new and open interpretations of religion," says Mahmoud Alinejad, an Iranian academic specialising in Islamic topics. "By voting for Khatami, they showed that they wanted change under an Islamic system, albeit a more liberal one."

It may also have reflected the fact that after two decades of revolutions and wars, many Iranians, irrespective of their Islamic commitment, have an almost innate conviction that abrupt change and upheavals take the country and their own prospects backwards.

So the vote for Khatami was also a vote for gradual change, for evolution, rather than another disruptive revolution.

Whether Khatami's liberal interpretation of Islamic democracy could have worked in objective conditions (if such a thing exists) may never be known.

But in the harsh world of real Iranian politics, it is generally deemed to have failed, not because of theoretical flaws, but because it was blocked by an entrenched minority of hard-liners determined to keep their grip on power.

Now the broad national mood is one of disillusion amounting to despair. This was reflected in the latest elections, in February, for city councils nationwide. In Tehran, where reformists swept the board in 1999, the turnout was a paltry 12%, allowing hard-liners to take over control by default.

Victory by default

The reformists now face a general election in February virtually empty-handed.

Practically all significant reformist legislation has been spiked by the Council of Guardians, a highly-conservative unelected body which has the right to vet and veto new bills.

Numerous reformists, liberals and student leaders have been put behind bars, with President Khatami and others powerless to do more than voice criticism.

Unless the conservatives judge that they cannot do without the popular support which the reformists might still be able to confer on the regime, and decide to give them some achievements to take to the polls, it is thought likely that there will be another large-scale abstention in the February elections.

The right-wing would be likely again to inherit the Majlis (parliament) and a year later the presidency, not because the pendulum of public favour had swung back their way, but by default and with minority support.

The most predictable result would be an even more disillusioned and bitter public alienation than that prevailing before Mr Khatami's advent in 1997 - unless the conservatives could somehow, and quickly, deliver some major achievements especially in the realms of economy and job-creation.

In that scenario, a narrowly-based right-wing Islamic regime might find its legitimacy under challenge more than ever before, from both within and outside the country.
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Iran Rejects EU Preconditions for Continued Cooperation

September 18, 2003

Teheran - Iran will not accept any preconditions by the European Union for continued cooperation, the news agency IRNA reported Thursday.

Iran and the EU have started their dialogue based on mutual respect, but Iran neither accepted any precondition for these talks then nor for their continuation now, Foreign Ministry spokesman Hamid-Reza Assefi said.

The spokesman was referring to remarks by the Italian delegation at the International Atomic Energy Agency, which made clear that EU cooperation with Iran depended on Teheran's acceptance of the additional IAEA protocol which authorizes unannounced and unlimited nuclear inspections.

Such remarks will not help strengthen constructive Iran-IAEA cooperation and definitely will not deter Iran from its legitimate rights to have access to peaceful nuclear technology, the spokesman said.

Assefi said Wednesday that Iran would also not give in to political pressure by the United States over it nuclear programs. Under the terms of last week's IAEA ultimatum, Teheran has until October 31 to accept all IAEA regulations on nuclear inspections.

It has been warned that the issue will go to the United Nations Security Council for possible sanctions if it does not comply by November 20.
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Argentine Bomb Police to Testify

September 18, 2003
Elliott Gotkine

The Argentine president is to order the secret service to testify in a court case over the 1994 bombing of a Jewish centre in Buenos Aires, the BBC has been told.

The lawyer representing victims of the bombing told the BBC that President Nestor Kirchner was to sign a decree forcing the country's secret police to appear in court.

Separately, an Argentine newspaper has revealed that a former cultural attache to the country's embassy in Iran is being investigated in connection with the bombing.

The bombing of the Jewish Mutual Aid Association (Amia) in 1994 killed 85 and left more than 200 people injured.

Members of Argentina's National Intelligence Service - while not directly implicated in the attack - have long been accused of deliberately misleading the investigation.

Menem connection

Now they will have to account for their actions in court.

Many suspect that Carlos Menem, who was Argentina's president at the time, was also involved.

Argentina's leading newspaper, Clarin, says prosecutors are now looking into his relationship with a former cultural attache to the Argentine Embassy in Iran.

Carlos Lelli is being investigated amid allegations he was the intermediary used by Mr Menem when he allegedly received million from Iran, in exchange for not accusing the Islamic Republic of the Amia bombing.

But Mr Lelli will not be testifying. He died in a car crash in August 2000, just two months after a former Iranian intelligence official made the million claim.
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Real Risk in Iran's Nuclear Deception

September 18, 2003
The Jersey Journal

The hot spot in the Middle East that we should be worrying about at the moment may be Iran and not Iraq. Can you say "nukes?"

Inspectors for the International Atomic Energy Agency detected traces of enriched uranium at an Iranian nuclear facility; the Iranians claimed it was needed for a peaceful nuclear-energy program. Enriched uranium could of course be used for reactors for the purpose of making electricity, but it is also the method by which nations build nuclear weapons programs. The problem with the Iranian explanation is that they already get "safe" fuel from Russia for their reactors.

So why is there a uranium enrichment program?

Iran is bound under the Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty to tell the world that it is building nuclear weapons, and it denies what everyone suspects. This is the same treaty the North Korean government has repudiated, but at least they admitted they are building powerful weapons of mass destruction. Rather than back off, the IAEA did the right thing by setting a deadline, ironically Oct. 31, when Iran must allow inspectors into that country for inspections. If Iran refuses to comply, then the whole mess goes to the United Nations Security Council to determine what action must follow.

Does this seem like déjá vu?

Once again, the credibility of the United Nations will be on the line, as well as the security of the world. It's essential that the Security Council avoid the mistakes of the Iraq question.
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IAEA Chooses New Governing Board, Iran No Longer a Member

September 18, 2003
AFX News

VIENNA -- The UN's International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) chose a new governing board Thursday, and the regular rotation of countries represented meant that Iran, a country accused of breaching the body's rules, is no longer a member, a spokesman for the watchdog agency said.

Spain is to take over from Kuwait as chairman of the 35-nation board, which makes key decisions such as deciding last week to impose an October 31 deadline on Iran to prove it is not secretly developing atomic weapons.

Spain is to be chosen as chair when the new board meets for the first time in Vienna on Monday.

AFP reported Iran's ambassador to the IAEA, Ali Akbar Salehi, as saying: "It's better to be on the board but we can still raise our voice and defend our position" since Iran can be present at meetings as an observer.

IAEA spokesman Mark Gwozdecky said the appointment Thursday of the new board at a general conference of the 137-member IAEA was an "annual rotation of board members."

He said the board's composition was a "formula with certain seats allocated to each region so that the balance more or less stays the same."

Iran is replaced for the Middle East and South Asia region by Pakistan, a country which possesses nuclear weapons.

Key nuclear powers Britain, China, France, Russia and the United States are permanent members of the board.
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Soldier Opens Fire on His Fellow Guards

September 18, 2003

TEHRAN -- A soldier guarding Tehran's law courts on Thursday opened fire on his fellow guards, killing one and wounding several others, the student news agency ISNA reported.

The director of political and security affairs in Tehran, Ali Taala, said five or six shots were fired in the incident, adding that an investigation was underway into the cause of the shooting.

No further details were given.
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Guard kills superior and wound several militiamen

SMCCDI (Information Service)
Sep 18, 2003

An officer of the LEF was killed and several militiamen were wounded, today, in the Justice palace located in the Nasser Khosrow avenue of Tehran.

A guard exasperated by witnessing the persistent repression of Iranians shoot out on his superior and colleagues and then escaped from the premises located in the nearby busy 15 Khordad (former Ark) circle.

Most neighboring avenues were closed and a successful man hunt took place, then, in the area by resulting in the capture of the rebellious soldier in the Davar avenue.

The rebellion of Iranian draftees is nothing new and has had several precedents. Sons of people, many of them are looking for the day that they can use of their guns in order to help their compatriots gaining freedom.
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US Will Target States Backing Terror

September 17, 2003
Dow Jones Newswires
Alex Keto

A Dow Jones Newswires Analysis

U.S. Vice President Dick Cheney Wednesday reiterated the Bush administration's policy of using preemptive attacks to destroy threats to the U.S.'s security by saying the U.S. and its allies have a moral duty to target states that back and support terrorism.

However, coincidentally or not, Cheney's tough talk backing preemptive attacks comes amid escalating rhetoric and accusations from White House officials about Syria.

"Prior to 9/11, too many nations tended to draw a distinction between terrorist groups and the states that provided these groups with support, sanctuary and safe harbor. They were unwilling to hold these terror-sponsoring states accountable for their actions," Cheney told the Air Force Association National Convention.

Given the grave threat posed by terrorists groups armed with weapons of mass destruction, Cheney said the U.S. can no longer afford to wait for a threat to emerge and an enemy to strike.

"So in addition to going after the terrorists, we are also taking on states that sponsor terror," Cheney said.

The vice president said that Bush has already ordered the U.S. military to topple two regimes that backed terrorists - Afghanistan and Iraq.

While Cheney made no mention of any other countries that back terrorism, other administration officials haven't been reluctant to provide a list of states sponsoring terrorism and building weapons of mass destruction.

Undersecretary of State for Arms Control John Bolton pointed a finger at four countries in a hearing on Capitol Hill Tuesday when he said that Iran , North Korea, Syria and Libya are all building weapons and helping terrorists.

Getting more specific, Bolton said Syria has stockpiled thousands of chemical-weapons munitions, including artillery shells and bombs, in addition to backing Hezbollah, Islamic Jihad and Hamas.

Bolton acknowledged Syria has not supplied any terrorist groups with these weapons or used the weapons itself, but he said the nexus of terrorism and weapons of mass destruction causes great "anxiety" within policy-making circles.

White House spokesman Scott McClellan backed up this assessment by saying Syria's current course of actions is unacceptable, and added that the regime of Bashir Assad needs to amend his ways.

"We're making it very clear that any support or harboring of terrorists is unacceptable, and you will be held accountable. That's why we are continuing to pressure Syria to reverse course, to change its behavior," McClellan said.

McClellan added that it is not just Syria's support for terrorism and its pursuit of chemical and biological weapons that are bothering the U.S.

In addition, the U.S. has demanded Syria seal its borders with Iraq to prevent the infiltration of foreign terrorists, he said.

"These are very real and serious concerns that we have," he added.

Cheney didn't say military action against terror states is inevitable, but he did note that several past strategies the U.S. has employed to defend itself simply don't work against terrorists and their sponsors.

While the U.S. was able to hold the Soviet Union at bay during the Cold War with the threat of massive retaliation, this strategy of deterrence is now on the ash heap of history, Cheney said.

"There is nothing they (the terrorists) value highly enough that we can put at risk to keep them from launching an attack against the United States. So no treaty or arms control agreement or strategy of deterrence will end this conflict," Cheney said.

Another strategy, raising ever thicker and more formidable defenses against a terror strike, likewise will not succeed in the end, Cheney said.

"The problem with terrorist organizations is that even if you build defenses that are 99% successful, the 1% that gets through can still kill you," he said.

Given these realities, Cheney said the only realistic action is a strategy aimed at hitting terrorists where they gather and where they are helped.

"We will be much more secure if we aggressively go after the terrorists - and after the nations and the mechanisms that support them - than if we lay back and wait for them to strike us again here in the United States," the vice president said.

Cheney acknowledged that some key allies are not comfortable with a policy of destroying regimes that back terrorism, but he derided these critics as out of touch with the new strategic reality created by the Sept. 11th attacks in which a small number of terrorists killed thousands.

"Some people - both in this nation and abroad - have questions about that strategy. They suggest that somehow it's wrong for us to strike before an enemy strikes us. But as President Bush said, 'If the threat is permitted to fully and suddenly emerge, all actions, all words, and all recriminations, would come too late'," Cheney said.

In any case, Cheney said the U.S. has a moral obligation to pursue the war on terrorism "well into the foreseeable future."

"It is a struggle against evil - against an enemy that rejoices in the murder of innocent, unsuspecting human beings," Cheney said.
24 posted on 09/18/2003 8:27:27 AM PDT by DoctorZIn
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To: DoctorZIn
Iran's nuclear diplomacy

It's all gone dreadfully wrong

Sep 18th 2003 | TEHRAN
From The Economist print edition

Even the European Union has lost patience with Iran

WHEN confronted with difficult questions about its nuclear programme, Iran's strategy has been to play for time. That approach backfired badly last week when the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) expressed its collective exasperation with Iran's evasive attitude. Instead of buying more time, Iran now faces a deadline of October 31st to dispel doubts about its nuclear ambitions.

When the 34 other members of the IAEA's governing board adopted a strongly-worded resolution, Iran's representative, Ali Akbar Salehi, walked out of the proceedings in anger. He should not have been surprised. Concern over Iran's nuclear activities has been mounting on both sides of the Atlantic. France and Germany share American suspicions about the nature of Iran's programme, and the European Union has presented a united front to the government in Tehran. But Iran mistakenly pinned its hopes on non-aligned governments blocking an American-backed resolution.

The result was a diplomatic disaster for a country that has made a priority of courting Europe as a buffer against America. Muhammad Khatami's reformist government counted the improved relations with European governments as one of its few successes. But the nuclear issue has exposed the limits of its authority.

Mr Khatami's supporters pleaded with the EU to tread softly to avoid giving ammunition to their hardline opponents in the theocratic system. But there is little sign that the reformists have the final say on the issues that matter to the rest of the world, and the gap between Iran's words and actions could no longer be overlooked.

Even the staunchest advocates of talking to Iran, such as Jack Straw, Britain's foreign secretary, are forced to question the fruits of “constructive engagement”. Mr Straw has an extra little difficulty: the four successive sets of pot-shots at the British embassy in Tehran. Nobody was injured in the attacks and nobody has been arrested. The government calls them “isolated incidents”, though in every case the shots were fired from a passing motorcycle.

Iran has played its cards badly. Some reformists in parliament point out that it would have been much easier to defuse the nuclear issue months ago, simply by taking the initiative and signing up for short-notice inspections. Now, saving face will be much harder. With France standing side-by-side with the Bush administration, Iran has managed to produce the seemingly unattainable: transatlantic unity.
25 posted on 09/18/2003 10:16:25 AM PDT by nuconvert
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Saudi Arabia Says It Does Not Want an Atomic Bomb

Thursday, September 18, 2003; 11:45 AM

LONDON (Reuters) - Saudi Arabia said Thursday it had no intention of developing a nuclear weapon.

Citing a "strategy paper" of unclear origin, London's Guardian newspaper reported Thursday that oil-rich Saudi Arabia was mulling the option of acquiring a nuclear weapon.

"The Kingdom of Saudi Arabia is not considering acquiring a nuclear bomb or nuclear weapons of any kind," the embassy in London said in a statement. "There is no atomic energy program in any part of the kingdom and neither is one being considered."

A diplomat familiar with the U.N. International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) told Reuters in Vienna the IAEA had no information that would back up the Guardian article.

Diplomats there also said it would be highly unusual for a country to permit any such plans to be leaked to a newspaper.

Separately, the IAEA said Thursday it had no information to indicate Syria was violating its nuclear non-proliferation obligations, as U.S. officials have suggested.
26 posted on 09/18/2003 10:18:00 AM PDT by Pan_Yans Wife ("Life isn't fair. It's fairer than death, is all.")
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"Carter says U.S. needs to push harder for peace"

Does anyone really care what he has to say?

27 posted on 09/18/2003 11:45:58 AM PDT by nuconvert
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To: Pan_Yans Wife
source: RFE/RL NEWSLINE Vol. 7, No. 178, Part III, 18 September 2003:


Islamic Republic of Iran Broadcasting director Ali Larijani defended his country's nuclear pursuits during a 17 September speech at the two-day International Conference for Arab and Islamic Media in Support of the Palestinian People, which is being held at the Crown Plaza Hotel in Beirut, the official Radio Lebanon reported. He said Iran obtained nuclear technology for peaceful purposes but that the unspecified "they" do not want regional states, "particularly the Islamic countries," to make more progress in this area. Nevertheless, he said, "We publicly announce today that we will not abandon our right to obtain nuclear technology, and that, pursuant to the Prophet's saying, we believe that defending the Palestinian people is an Islamic and human duty." Larijani added, "We will not be scared by the childish threats by the American president to launch a crusade." BS


Hizballah Secretary-General Hassan Nasrallah also gave a speech in Beirut at the International Conference for Arab and Islamic Media in Support of the Palestinian People, Al-Manar television reported on 17 September. Nasrallah defended Iran's nuclear pursuits in terms similar to those of Larijani, contrasting "their" treatment of Israel with "their" treatment of Iran. "Iran seeks to obtain nuclear power for peaceful purposes, but preparations are made to besiege it internationally. This may reach the point of declaring war on it," he said. "This happens while Israel, which possesses lethal nuclear weapons, is protected and is given easy loans and annual aid on all levels." BS

Comment: Is he expecting new devices?
28 posted on 09/18/2003 11:48:11 AM PDT by AdmSmith
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To: F14 Pilot
"Islamic Democracy", indeed!
29 posted on 09/18/2003 11:59:44 AM PDT by nuconvert
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To: DoctorZIn
Keep an eye on France in November when the UN Security Council will likely vote on Iran's non-compliance with the IAEA. -- DoctorZin

Our War With France

NY Times
September 18, 2003

It's time we Americans came to terms with something: France is not just our annoying ally. It is not just our jealous rival. France is becoming our enemy.

If you add up how France behaved in the run-up to the Iraq war (making it impossible for the Security Council to put a real ultimatum to Saddam Hussein that might have avoided a war), and if you look at how France behaved during the war (when its foreign minister, Dominique de Villepin, refused to answer the question of whether he wanted Saddam or America to win in Iraq), and if you watch how France is behaving today (demanding some kind of loopy symbolic transfer of Iraqi sovereignty to some kind of hastily thrown together Iraqi provisional government, with the rest of Iraq's transition to democracy to be overseen more by a divided U.N. than by America), then there is only one conclusion one can draw: France wants America to fail in Iraq.

France wants America to sink in a quagmire there in the crazy hope that a weakened U.S. will pave the way for France to assume its "rightful" place as America's equal, if not superior, in shaping world affairs.

Yes, the Bush team's arrogance has sharpened French hostility. Had President Bush and Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld not been so full of themselves right after America's military victory in Iraq — and instead used that moment, when the French were feeling that maybe they should have taken part, to magnanimously reach out to Paris to join in reconstruction — it might have softened French attitudes. But even that I have doubts about.

What I have no doubts about, though, is that there is no coherent, legitimate Iraqi authority able to assume power in the near term, and trying to force one now would lead to a dangerous internal struggle and delay the building of the democratic institutions Iraq so badly needs. Iraqis know this. France knows this, which is why its original proposal (which it now seems to be backtracking on a bit) could only be malicious.

What is so amazing to me about the French campaign — "Operation America Must Fail" — is that France seems to have given no thought as to how this would affect France. Let me spell it out in simple English: if America is defeated in Iraq by a coalition of Saddamists and Islamists, radical Muslim groups — from Baghdad to the Muslim slums of Paris — will all be energized, and the forces of modernism and tolerance within these Muslim communities will be on the run. To think that France, with its large Muslim minority, where radicals are already gaining strength, would not see its own social fabric affected by this is fanciful.

If France were serious, it would be using its influence within the European Union to assemble an army of 25,000 Eurotroops, and a $5 billion reconstruction package, and then saying to the Bush team: Here, we're sincere about helping to rebuild Iraq, but now we want a real seat at the management table. Instead, the French have put out an ill-conceived proposal, just to show that they can be different, without any promise that even if America said yes Paris would make a meaningful contribution.

But then France has never been interested in promoting democracy in the modern Arab world, which is why its pose as the new protector of Iraqi representative government — after being so content with Saddam's one-man rule — is so patently cynical.

Clearly, not all E.U. countries are comfortable with this French mischief, yet many are going along for the ride. It's stunning to me that the E.U., misled by France, could let itself be written out of the most important political development project in modern Middle East history. The whole tone and direction of the Arab-Muslim world, which is right on Europe's doorstep, will be affected by the outcome in Iraq. It would be as if America said it did not care what happened in Mexico because it was mad at Spain.

Says John Chipman, director of the London-based International Institute for Strategic Studies: "What the Europeans are saying about Iraq is that this is our backyard, we're not going to let you meddle in it, but we're not going to tend it ourselves."

But what's most sad is that France is right — America will not be as effective or legitimate in its efforts to rebuild Iraq without French help. Having France working with us in Iraq, rather than against us in the world, would be so beneficial for both nations and for the Arabs' future. Too bad this French government has other priorities.
30 posted on 09/18/2003 12:17:58 PM PDT by DoctorZIn
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Belarus has provided Syria with hundreds of shoulder-fired, SA-18 antiaircraft missiles and launchers in a deal estimated to be worth more than $30 million, "Middle East Newsline" ( reported on 17 September, quoting "Western intelligence sources." The supply was reportedly sent in three shipments -- one in March on the eve of the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq, the next in early summer, and the last in August. JM

Source: RFE/RL NEWSLINE Vol. 7, No. 178, Part II, 18 September 2003
31 posted on 09/18/2003 12:40:53 PM PDT by AdmSmith
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To: DoctorZIn
"the French campaign — "Operation America Must Fail" — France seems to have given no thought as to how this would affect France."

As they gave no thought to preparing and warning their own citizens about the heat wave this summer.
32 posted on 09/18/2003 1:05:32 PM PDT by nuconvert
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To: F14 Pilot; DoctorZIn; Grampa Dave; BOBTHENAILER; dennisw
it needs Britain on its side in the face of unprecedented American attempts to isolate and demonize the country internationally.

Iran is doing a perfectly fine job of that without U.S. assistance.

Robert Baer, See No Evil: The True Story of a Ground Soldier in the CIA's War on Terrorism, Crown, 2002, page 79 places the blame for the kidnapping and murder of Buckley and the Beirut Embassy bombing on IJO which on page 264 he says the CIA knew "was merely a front for the Iranians."

The current nuclear weapons violation indicates the evidence of Bill Gertz re Iranian-Russian proliferation (Year of the Rat, Betrayal) was the tip of the iceberg.


Amid mounting international scrutiny of Iran’s nuclear ambitions, officials in Washington are expressing fresh worries about the growing missile threat from the Islamic Republic. In his June 25th testimony before the Senate Armed Services Committee, General John Abizaid, the incoming commander of the United States Central Command, stressed that “Iran has the largest ballistic missile inventory in the Central Command region -- to include long-range weapons of mass destruction and delivery systems capable of reaching deployed U.S. forces in the theater.” Iran, according to Abizaid, “casts a shadow on security and stability in the Gulf region” and “poses a potential threat to neighboring countries.”

These concerns are sure to be compounded by news that Iran has successfully tested its medium-range “Shahab-3” missile. Israel's Ha’aretz newspaper (July 4) reports that the latest flight test of the rocket, conducted in late June, is the most successful trial to date, showcasing an expanded range for the “Shahab-3” above and beyond its previously-projected 1,300-kilometer range.


September 11:

MOSCOW MOVES TOWARD ACCOUNTABILITY ON IRAN. A source in Russia's Atomic Energy Ministry has told Agence France-Presse that Moscow will support a draft resolution at the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) setting an October 31st deadline for Iran to prove it is not secretly developing nuclear weapons. According to the source, the draft softens a previous version by giving the Iranians "room to maneuver, so they are not pushed into a corner like North Korea" and into withdrawing from the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty. Moscow is demanding that Tehran sign an agreement to send back spent nuclear fuel from the Bushehr nuclear facility, which Russia is help building, once the facility becomes operational.

Russia Reform Monitor No. 1076, September 12, 2003
American Foreign Policy Council, Washington, DC



Even as plans for multilateral talks over its nuclear program move forward, North Korea is intensifying its missile and WMD cooperation with Iran. According to the Sankei Shimbun (August 6), Pyongyang is currently in talks with Tehran to export components of its long-range “Taepo-Dong 2” missile to the Islamic Republic, as well as to jointly develop nuclear weapons. According to the conservative Japanese daily, the plan -- in the works for about a year -- could be finalized as early as this October. If it materializes, this export arrangement would provide North Korea with much-needed hard currency, and would dramatically expand the range of Iran’s ballistic missiles, making the Islamic Republic capable of striking targets in Europe.

American Foreign Policy Council, Washington, DC


The agency of certain UK journalists to apologize for jihadists has come to the fore of late with the Andrew Gilligan smear and the petition to cancel the royal charter of the BBC, altogether with Israel's breaking relations with that agency.

To suggest as the author does that Israel shapes U.S. policy toward anything let alone Iran is a default to knee-jerk anti-Zionism and ignorance of reality.

Iran is working very hard to maintain membership in the Axis of Evil, an even more exclusive club since May.

33 posted on 09/18/2003 8:43:32 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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"Iran Can Arm Missiles with Biological Warheads"

September 19, 2003
Nathan Guttman

WASHINGTON - Iran has the capability of arming ballistic missiles with biological warheads, Paula DeSutter, U.S. Assistant Secretary of State for Verification and Compliance, told Congress on Wednesday.

This is the first time that an official claim of Iran's ability to launch biological warheads has been made.

Intelligence sources said that such an ability indicates sophisticated technological capabilities, since biological warheads are considered much harder to use than other types. Among other problems, the structure of the warhead differs from that of a conventional one, to facilitate the dispersal of the biological material.

DeSutter's testimony was delivered at a joint session that included Israeli Knesset members as well as members of both houses of Congress. The meeting, part of an ongoing initiative to hold periodic joint sessions of the Congress and Knesset, was attended by Senators Jon Kyl (R-AZ) and Dianne Feinstein (D-CA) and Congressmen Jane Harman (D-CA) and Curt Weldon (R-PA). The Israeli representatives were four members of the Knesset Foreign Affairs and Defense Committee: Chairman Yuval Steinitz (Likud), Omri Sharon (Likud), Haim Ramon (Labor) and Ephraim Sneh (Labor).

DeSutter told the committee that Iran is in violation of the Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty (NPT) and has been working to acquire secretly nonconventional weapons of all kinds. She said that Iran's nuclear program is a genuine threat to both the Middle East and the U.S., since the Iranians are constantly working to expand the range of their missiles. America's current strategy for dealing with the problem is to push for a decision by the International Atomic Energy Agency, formally declaring Iran in violation of the NPT, she added.

Other experts warned the meeting that if Iran's efforts continue unchecked, its nuclear capabilities could outstrip those of North Korea.

Meanwhile, Saudi Arabia yesterday denied a report in Britain's Guardian newspaper stating that the kingdom was considering acquiring nuclear weapons. "The Kingdom of Saudi Arabia is not considering acquiring a nuclear bomb or nuclear weapons of any kind," the Saudi Embassy in London said in a statement. "There is no atomic energy program in any part of the kingdom and neither is one being considered."
34 posted on 09/18/2003 9:25:56 PM PDT by DoctorZIn
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Iran Accused of Role in Iraq Bombings

September 19, 2003
Patrick Bishop

America's pro-consul in Baghdad gave warning yesterday that Iran should halt its plots to destabilise Iraq, in a further hardening of American attitudes towards its long-time adversary.

Ambassador Paul Bremer, head of the Coalition Provisional Authority and effectively Iraq's civilian ruler, said that Iran, which has been watching the American occupation of its neighbour with mounting alarm, "continues to meddle in various ways in Iraq's internal affairs".

In an interview with The Telegraph he claimed that Iranian intelligence agents and government officials were working to destabilise the reconstruction process. Their activities included "support for various people, some of whom have taken violent action against both Iraqis and against the coalition".

Asked whether Iranians were suspected of possible involvement in shooting and bomb attacks, he replied: "There's certainly some indication of that, yes."

Three American soldiers were killed yesterday in an ambush on a busy road near Khaldiya, west of Baghdad. Their vehicles were damaged by a mine and then gunmen fired on survivors. As well as daily attacks on coalition forces a devastating series of bombings aimed at civilians have rocked Iraq in recent weeks and killed about 150 people.

Teheran is already under pressure because of evidence that it may be developing nuclear weapons and has until the end of October to prove its innocence to the International Atomic Energy Agency.

Mr Bremer's accusations against Iran will dismay President Mohammed Khatami, whose attempts at reform have been hobbled by the Shia religious conservative establishment.

Mr Khatami recently told King Abdullah of Jordan that he was alarmed at the prospect of conflict between Shias and Sunnis in Iraq and willing to do what he could to prevent trouble.

I am shocked. -- DoctorZin
35 posted on 09/18/2003 9:29:23 PM PDT by DoctorZIn
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There is something going on between the US and Iran - re the Iraq situation. Obviously, there had been some sort of secret diplomacy, and an "understanding", before the invasion, there would have had to have been.

But since then, something has come unstuck. The death of Ayatollah Hakim is one symptom of that. These complaints are another.
36 posted on 09/18/2003 9:33:46 PM PDT by BlackVeil
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To: DoctorZIn
Let send Jimmy Carter over there, he'll know what to say to
those pesky Iranians.
37 posted on 09/18/2003 9:43:49 PM PDT by RJBJR
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To: DoctorZIn
"In an interview with The Telegraph he claimed that Iranian intelligence agents and government officials were working to destabilise the reconstruction process. Their activities included "support for various people, some of whom have taken violent action against both Iraqis and against the coalition"."

Yes, this is quite a revelation.
A conspiracy, no doubt.
38 posted on 09/18/2003 9:44:24 PM PDT by nuconvert
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To: F14 Pilot
Indeed there is no democracy in communism.

Democratic Peoples Republic of Korea is a case in point.

Per The Black Book of Communism, the price of the illusion has been 100 million murdered to date.

Russian Communism was Stalinism; Chinese, Maoism; each devolving through subsequent rulers--but never to the people.

The dictatorship of the proletariat always means a tiny clique of the most murderous.

In this there seems as much affinity between Iran's leftists and Islamists, as Eric Hoffer found between Nazis and Communists.

Current developments in Iraq may help assure Sam Ghandchi that he will live to see a "Futurist, Federal, Democratic, and Secular Republic in Iran".

39 posted on 09/18/2003 9:57:00 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: DoctorZIn
Nathan Hale dittos.

Blood of tyrants bump.

40 posted on 09/18/2003 10:07:42 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: DoctorZIn

Not merely building chemical weapons and the missiles to deliver them, but placing missiles in Lebanon, providing sanctuary for Ba'athists and their weapons of mass destruction, allowing terrorists to enter Iraq on missions of murder, housing headquarters of terrorist organizations in Damascus--

Syria's current course of actions is unacceptable, and added that the regime of Bashir Assad needs to amend his ways.

So far, it's sticks and stones.

Assad will not "amend" anything until he feels sticks and stones. Words certainly will not hurt him.

41 posted on 09/18/2003 10:21:55 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: DoctorZIn
This thread is now closed.

Join Us At Today's Iranian Alert Thread

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42 posted on 09/19/2003 12:01:30 AM PDT by DoctorZIn
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I think you should read Doctor Zin's post, 35.

Iraq bombings.
43 posted on 09/19/2003 4:56:51 AM PDT by Pan_Yans Wife ("Life isn't fair. It's fairer than death, is all.")
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To: PhilDragoo
If it materializes, this export arrangement would provide North Korea with much-needed hard currency, and would dramatically expand the range of Iran’s ballistic missiles, making the Islamic Republic capable of striking targets in Europe.

Great post. The above should be a sobering influence on the quisling Euro-Axis of Weasles (France & Germany and lesser countries of little note).

I suspect the recent indication of help in Iraq from France and Germany may have something to do with their belated awareness of this threat from Iranian missles.

Baer's book was and is a classic.

44 posted on 09/19/2003 7:31:49 AM PDT by BOBTHENAILER (One by one, in groups or whole armies.....we don't care how we getcha, but we will)
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