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Ex-U.N. inspector says Iraq invasion justified
Press of Atlantic City ^
| September 20, 2003
| MADELAINE VITALE
Posted on 09/20/2003 6:57:58 AM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl
September 20, 2003
Ex-U.N. inspector says Iraq invasion justified
By MADELAINE VITALE Staff Writer, (609) 272-7218, E-Mail
ATLANTIC CITY - "Terrorists cannot be ignored" was the message at the annual convention of the Utility and Transportation Contractors Association on Friday at the Tropicana Casino and Resort.
Ambassador Richard Butler, former chief United Nations weapons inspector for Iraq, told a couple hundred people that as a nation, we must respond to terrorists - or as Butler refers to them, "nonstate actors."
"These people don't represent anyone," Butler said. "They don't speak for a government. They have come to behave like a state. They use force but not in self-defense. We saw that in 9-11. We saw nonstate actors in their modern form."
Terrorists are nothing more than people who commit indiscriminate homicide to promote their point of view, Butler, the keynote speaker, said with a thick Australian accent.
"They don't know the faces of the people they are killing. They don't want to know," he said.
Butler was chief U.N. inspector in the 1990s and is an expert in weapons of mass destruction. He also has been in foreign service for Australia for 30 years.
Butler said the obvious and most defining events of the 21st century thus far are 9-11 and the invasion of Iraq.
He said the United States and its allies had no choice but to invade Iraq and overthrow Sadaam Hussein's government.
Butler likened Saddam to Adolf Hitler and said the evil dictator used the weapons on live people.
"I want to be plain about this," Butler's voice heightened. "The overthrow of Sadaam Hussein was justified whether or not there was reluctance to authorize it. ... No one could say it is wrong to overthrow a homicidal maniac. The Security Council sat on its hands for 10 years."
As for not finding these weapons allegedly in Iraq, Butler said he is sure Saddam had them. He said Saddam was addicted to the deadly weapons, and whether they are still in Iraq but hidden, moved or destroyed, they did exist.
"Don't believe those who say they aren't there just because we haven't found them. Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction," Butler told the crowd. "Iraq certainly did have weapons of mass destruction. Trust me. I held some in my own hands."
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To: MJY1288; Calpernia; Grampa Dave; anniegetyourgun; Coop; Ernest_at_the_Beach; BOBTHENAILER; ...
"I want to be plain about this," Butler's voice heightened. "The overthrow of Sadaam Hussein was justified whether or not there was reluctance to authorize it. ... No one could say it is wrong to overthrow a homicidal maniac. The Security Council sat on its hands for 10 years." Ping!
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posted on
09/20/2003 7:01:50 AM PDT
by
Ragtime Cowgirl
("This isn't going very well for the enemy." ~ Brit Hume)
To: Ragtime Cowgirl
Hopefully David Kay's report will nail down EVERYTHING and make those liberals STFU.
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posted on
09/20/2003 7:06:30 AM PDT
by
Ann Archy
To: Ragtime Cowgirl
"Don't believe those who say they aren't there just because we haven't found them. Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction," Butler told the crowd. "Iraq certainly did have weapons of mass destruction. Trust me. I held some in my own hands." Good to see this in print. Seems like we should all arm ourselves with those highlighter markers, so we can continuously point out that WMDs do exist in Iraq. (IMO)
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posted on
09/20/2003 7:08:43 AM PDT
by
Pan_Yans Wife
("Life isn't fair. It's fairer than death, is all.")
To: Ragtime Cowgirl
"The Security Council sat on its hands for 10 years."And would be sitting on them still had it not been for the unplanned (by the U.N. and dems) election of GWB. When we elected Dubya, we elected someone whose foreign policy would consist of more than a photo-op here and there.
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posted on
09/20/2003 7:12:55 AM PDT
by
MizSterious
(Support whirled peas!)
To: Ann Archy
When will that report be released? I'm really looking forward to it.
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posted on
09/20/2003 7:14:11 AM PDT
by
MizSterious
(Support whirled peas!)
To: Ragtime Cowgirl
I guess if you can't find any WMD, you just have to attack terrorism. Butler is so lame.
Richard W.
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posted on
09/20/2003 7:14:27 AM PDT
by
arete
(Greenspan is a ruling class elitist and closet socialist who is destroying the economy)
To: arete
Man, you are such a drag...you hear, but don't listen.
It's fantasy like yours what gets people killed.
Booooooooooring.
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posted on
09/20/2003 7:27:50 AM PDT
by
jwfiv
To: jwfiv
It's fantasy like yours what gets people killed.Any lives being lost lay directly at the feet of the Bush administration not those that demand accountability and answers (not mindless spin) from those who hype and engage in war.
Richard W.
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posted on
09/20/2003 7:33:31 AM PDT
by
arete
(Greenspan is a ruling class elitist and closet socialist who is destroying the economy)
To: Ragtime Cowgirl
"No one could say it is wrong to overthrow a homicidal maniac." Except the Demonrats.
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posted on
09/20/2003 7:38:43 AM PDT
by
rickmichaels
(The root cause of anti-Americanism is envy.)
To: Ragtime Cowgirl
But . . . but . . . but Hans Blix-Chix just said it wasn't justified. And Daschole and Teddy-bear Kennedy and all the Euro-wannabe libbers now agree with Blix-Chix. Ahhhh . . . it's such a tangled world we live in.
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posted on
09/20/2003 7:39:31 AM PDT
by
geedee
(Us pro-lifers would've made an exception for Pee Wee Clinton if we'd known.)
To: Ragtime Cowgirl
I was never a Butler fan but it seems that he called this one right. Homicidal maniacs deserve to be deposited on the ash heap of history and so we did it in the face of vociferous objections from Euro trash, libs, and the ash heap itself.
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posted on
09/20/2003 7:46:20 AM PDT
by
Movemout
To: arete
Oh puleese, you are so lame!
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posted on
09/20/2003 7:51:10 AM PDT
by
fml
To: fml
I told my wife that this morning. I guess I will pay for that staement for about forever.
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posted on
09/20/2003 8:02:12 AM PDT
by
Movemout
To: arete
Awright, arete....your self is in the way of your eye.
A President who lays down and pisses himself in appeasement of terrorists for two full terms is the one who should be held accountable...one BJ Clinton.
The Bush administration inherited the war which Cliinton chose not to fight.
Because Clinton chose not to fight, 3,000 Americans died one beautiful and sad morning.
It ain't a perfect world...the fog we peer through is not only of war, but simply of existence.
Our war on terror is just like any other human enterprise, fraught with good moves and bad moves...it beats standing still and jerking off in the Oval Office bathroom sink.
Your position baffles and frustrates...sorry for my rudeness...I'm just weary of the willful blindness you display, parroting the mindless spin from those who hype and engage in appeasement.
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posted on
09/20/2003 8:06:00 AM PDT
by
jwfiv
To: arete
I guess if you can't find any WMD, you just have to attack terrorism. Butler is so lame.Read the whole article and see that Butler did not retreat from the WMD charge. Just the opposite:
As for not finding these weapons allegedly in Iraq, Butler said he is sure Saddam had them. He said Saddam was addicted to the deadly weapons, and whether they are still in Iraq but hidden, moved or destroyed, they did exist.
"Don't believe those who say they aren't there just because we haven't found them. Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction," Butler told the crowd. "Iraq certainly did have weapons of mass destruction. Trust me. I held some in my own hands."
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posted on
09/20/2003 8:24:30 AM PDT
by
cyncooper
(I believe VP Cheney)
To: Movemout
Oh oh.
Yeah, you will....
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posted on
09/20/2003 8:25:48 AM PDT
by
cyncooper
(I believe VP Cheney....and Richard Butler)
To: cyncooper
You tell 'em! :)
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posted on
09/20/2003 8:26:25 AM PDT
by
Pan_Yans Wife
("Life isn't fair. It's fairer than death, is all.")
To: Pan_Yans Wife
:)
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posted on
09/20/2003 8:27:37 AM PDT
by
cyncooper
(I believe VP Cheney....and Richard Butler)
To: jwfiv
You are blinded from seeing the truth by both you political bias and hate for everything Clinton. "Terrorism" whatever that is, has always been around and always will as long as one side of an issue cannot peacefully resolve problems with the other side. Americans think and believe that they are always right and therefor can impose their will and "enlightened" way of life on others. Doesn't work that way. OBL was given life by the fact that we had a military presence in Suadi Arabia. Would we tolerate a foreign military encampment of our soil and how would we react? There are consequence to our attempts to dominate the world and it would be good to recognize that fact. The only appeasement taking place is our desperate attempts to buy and bribe corrupted political leaders in other countries into supporting our positions. Remember, we support and keep in power the Saudi royals and there are no bigger and better friends of that incestuous and despotic group than the Bush family and friends. Things aren't always as simple as the propagandists would like us to believe.
Richard W.
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posted on
09/20/2003 8:31:57 AM PDT
by
arete
(Greenspan is a ruling class elitist and closet socialist who is destroying the economy)
To: cyncooper
Sorry, if you are still holding on to that empty WMD are there but we can't find them argument, then you aren't paying attention. Butler is little different than Blair -- just a lame parrot and lackey of the propadandists talking points. He's a fraud.
Richard W.
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posted on
09/20/2003 8:36:32 AM PDT
by
arete
(Greenspan is a ruling class elitist and closet socialist who is destroying the economy)
To: Ragtime Cowgirl
The mainstream press will cover Butler like a cat burying a noxious turd in the litterbox. It's not what the rabble need to see.
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posted on
09/20/2003 8:45:35 AM PDT
by
johnny7
(“I HAVE A RIGHT TO RULE THIS FU_KING COUNTRY!” -Hillary Clinton)
To: Ragtime Cowgirl
Bump!
To: arete
Things aren't always as simple as the propagandists would like us to believe.Agreed.
I had a conversation recently with a friend of mine, a Dean supporter and Bush hater...he doesn't believe in terrorism either, and expressed outrage that the evil American car companies make cars that kill more pedestrians every year than citizens were killed by al queda on 9/11.
That's quite a hoop he's jumping through in order to deny the danger we face.
Bin Laden's motivation is more complex then our simple presence in Saudi Arabia.
Things aren't always as simple as the propagandists would like us to believe.
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posted on
09/20/2003 8:53:37 AM PDT
by
jwfiv
To: Ragtime Cowgirl; dighton; general_re
Another sitepest infected thread.
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posted on
09/20/2003 10:33:15 AM PDT
by
aculeus
To: Ragtime Cowgirl
Some people do get it ~ Bump!
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posted on
09/20/2003 10:43:46 AM PDT
by
blackie
To: Movemout
A small word of advise (freely given..and worth just about that much), NEVER walk into a lion cage with a T-bone tied to your neck. :-)
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posted on
09/20/2003 11:56:43 AM PDT
by
Valin
(It's all an INSIDIOUS plot...and they're the worst kind!)
To: arete
So in other words we should have just let that homocidal manic go merrly on his way until he did get the bomb, and killing 10s of thousands of Iraqis along the way.
You make it sound (like so much of the media)that the only reason we took that scumbag down was WMD.
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posted on
09/20/2003 12:04:01 PM PDT
by
Valin
(It's all an INSIDIOUS plot...and they're the worst kind!)
To: arete
Things aren't always as simple as the propagandists would like us to believe.
It's actually quite a bit simpler.All wars are wars of attrition.The object is to kill more of them than they kill of us.That will never happen by staying home and "fortifying" the US.If you want to kill terrorists you have to go where they live.Anybody that doesn't think terrorists live in Iraq is delusional.
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posted on
09/20/2003 12:05:01 PM PDT
by
edchambers
(NUKE AND PAVE)
To: arete
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posted on
09/20/2003 12:39:34 PM PDT
by
Valin
(It's all an INSIDIOUS plot...and they're the worst kind!)
To: blackie
Not enough time in the day to reach them all, bump! (^;
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posted on
09/20/2003 12:55:43 PM PDT
by
Ragtime Cowgirl
("This isn't going very well for the enemy." ~ Brit Hume)
To: Ragtime Cowgirl
Richard Butler gets "it"! :)
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posted on
09/20/2003 12:57:48 PM PDT
by
blackie
To: Valin
A Federal Judge's Point of View By Judge Don WaltersIt is laughable to even consider that opinion as an indication of anything. Dah.
Richard W.
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posted on
09/20/2003 2:40:32 PM PDT
by
arete
(Greenspan is a ruling class elitist and closet socialist who is destroying the economy)
To: arete
Please enlighten us then.
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posted on
09/20/2003 2:49:24 PM PDT
by
Valin
(It's all an INSIDIOUS plot...and they're the worst kind!)
To: Ragtime Cowgirl
keep em coming Ragtime....the truth will make its way into the mainstream media someday
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posted on
09/20/2003 2:56:26 PM PDT
by
boxerblues
(God Bless the 101st, stay safe, stay armed and watch your backs)
To: boxerblues
Bump!
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posted on
09/20/2003 4:12:15 PM PDT
by
Ragtime Cowgirl
("This isn't going very well for the enemy." ~ Brit Hume)
To: Ragtime Cowgirl; jwfiv; BOBTHENAILER
"I want to be plain about this," Butler's voice heightened. "The overthrow of Sadaam Hussein was justified whether or not there was reluctance to authorize it. ... No one could say it is wrong to overthrow a homicidal maniac. The Security Council sat on its hands for 10 years." Osama bin Laden and his apologists claim the attack on September 11, 2001 which killed over 3,000 civilians was justified.
Ladenites point to the U.S. military presence on the sacred peninsula.
Ladenites lack the cerebral software to connect that presence with Saddam's invasion of Kuwait and defiance of cease-fire agreements he signed.
Actions have consequences, and Saddam is feeling those consequences as he goes from house to house in his burqa.
Syria, too, will know the consequences of secreting Saddam's weapons of mass destruction, harboring fugitive Ba'athists, and providing a base for foreign terrorist attacks on coalition forces in Iraq.
The UN is largely anti-US/anti-Israel dictators content to allow slaughter from Rwanda to Zimbabwe.
Butler is showing the forthrightness Ritter compromised by his pedophilia.
When the Kay report is released we'll see the biochem went west to Syria and the enriched uranium went east to Iran.
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posted on
09/20/2003 6:07:13 PM PDT
by
PhilDragoo
(Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
To: Ragtime Cowgirl
Bump!
To: PhilDragoo; nuconvert
When the Kay report is released we'll see the biochem went west to Syria and the enriched uranium went east to Iran. Such a concise way of putting it.
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posted on
09/20/2003 8:40:06 PM PDT
by
Pan_Yans Wife
("Life isn't fair. It's fairer than death, is all.")
To: arete
"There are consequence to our attempts to dominate the world..."
Oh, sheesh.
World domination.
Yup. We gotcha.
To: Pan_Yans Wife
thnx
To: nuconvert
You are more than welcome. :)
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posted on
09/20/2003 9:14:42 PM PDT
by
Pan_Yans Wife
("Life isn't fair. It's fairer than death, is all.")
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