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Ohio State's Maurice Clarett Sues NFL
ABC/ESPN Breaking News ^ | September 23, 2003 | staff writer

Posted on 09/23/2003 11:16:45 AM PDT by rftc

Suspended Ohio State tailback Maurice Clarett sued the National Football League today in an historic attempt to gain entry into the league.

Under the current rules, Clarett is not eligible for entry until 2005.


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1 posted on 09/23/2003 11:16:47 AM PDT by rftc
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To: rftc
This will be the first court beating he takes.

Followed by his lawsuit against OSU.

The league has the right to establish minimum requirements.
2 posted on 09/23/2003 11:18:14 AM PDT by Bikers4Bush
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To: rftc
Surprise, surprise, surprise.

I hope this gets tossed out with prejudice. It probably won't, of course.

3 posted on 09/23/2003 11:18:19 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: rftc
Don't think this has yet been challenged in court.
If he wins it could be the end of the salad days of the NFL.
4 posted on 09/23/2003 11:19:51 AM PDT by Semper Paratus
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To: r9etb
Will Jim Brown still be representing the family?
5 posted on 09/23/2003 11:19:57 AM PDT by rftc
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To: r9etb
If the NFL keeps this tied-up in court until after the draft in April, doesn't Clarett's lawsuit become moot?
6 posted on 09/23/2003 11:20:27 AM PDT by midwestmidnight
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To: Bikers4Bush
I think the courts may strike down the NFL's rule.

Maurice may be long past eligible before this is ever resolved.

7 posted on 09/23/2003 11:21:54 AM PDT by rftc
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The question is, is the NFL practicing a form of age discrimination against him? I think they are and they are also, in fact, limiting his right to earn a living. They may claim that they want to "protect" him but to me that sounnds like BS. Him bypassing the NCAA will result in the weakening of college football which is nothing but a farm system for the NFL. Him getting to the NFL early means that fewer jobs are available which means expansion and/or dilution of the league.

On the other hand, are you willing as a coach or owner to waste a high draft pick on a kid with his history?
8 posted on 09/23/2003 11:22:25 AM PDT by misterrob
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No way. The league has a right to establish minimum rewuirements just as any employer has a right to require a college degree for certain jobs.

Maurice will lose this case.
9 posted on 09/23/2003 11:24:08 AM PDT by Bikers4Bush
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To: misterrob
The kid is legally 18 years old and should have a right to earn a living, either in Europe, the CFL or NFL..
10 posted on 09/23/2003 11:25:24 AM PDT by rftc
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To: misterrob
The question is, is the NFL practicing a form of age discrimination against him? I think they are and they are

If you're thinking about the Age Discrimination in Employment Act, then it may be age discrimination, but it isn't illegal age discrimination. The ADEA only protects people over 40 years old.

11 posted on 09/23/2003 11:25:51 AM PDT by trad_anglican
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To: misterrob
The question is, is the NFL practicing a form of age discrimination against him? I think they are and they are also, in fact, limiting his right to earn a living. They may claim that they want to "protect" him but to me that sounnds like BS. Him bypassing the NCAA will result in the weakening of college football which is nothing but a farm system for the NFL. Him getting to the NFL early means that fewer jobs are available which means expansion and/or dilution of the league.

Sorry the NFL is a private organization and they can set the rules in who to take and not to take. Also there is no right to earn a living.
12 posted on 09/23/2003 11:26:10 AM PDT by KevinDavis (Let the meek inherit the Earth, the rest of us will explore the stars!)
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To: rftc
Of course, but he's not entitled to a job with an employer who he doesn't qualify for.
13 posted on 09/23/2003 11:26:47 AM PDT by Bogey78O (The Clinton's have pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured/killed -Peach)
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To: rftc
He's free to go to Canada. The NFL is not stopping him from making a living.

He will lose.
14 posted on 09/23/2003 11:27:04 AM PDT by Bikers4Bush
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To: misterrob
It's not age descrimination, it's establishing a minimum standard for players. All professional sports leagues have rules on minimum capabilities for their players, which often includes age. It's also not limiting his right to earn a living, he's free to go play for any of the semi-pro leagues or even the CFL.

They're protecting themselves from stupid young players that do stupid young things. Look at what's happened to the NBA since they started letting in teenagers, ratings down, scores down, attendance down, revenues down, quality of the game way down. Expect the same thing to happen if the courts don't allow the NFL to maintain their rules.
15 posted on 09/23/2003 11:27:04 AM PDT by discostu (just a tuna sandwich from another catering service)
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To: rftc
The kid is legally 18 years old and should have a right to earn a living

Of course he has a right to earn a living. The question is, does he have a right to impose his will on the wills of the NFL owners?

16 posted on 09/23/2003 11:27:29 AM PDT by trad_anglican
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To: Bikers4Bush
I imagine this is an antitrust case, not age discrimination -- individual employers might be able to set minimum age standards, but competiting employers can't jointly agree not to compete in hiring certain employees.
17 posted on 09/23/2003 11:27:35 AM PDT by triplejake
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To: Bikers4Bush
The league has the right to establish minimum requirements.

I'm not so sure about that. What makes the NFL different from the NBA which was forced to lower their age of acceptance?
18 posted on 09/23/2003 11:27:42 AM PDT by Stone Mountain
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To: rftc
He has every right to earn a living. Maybe it won't be as a mulit-million dollar football star.

There are many forklift driver/warehouseman positions open. You know, honest labor.
19 posted on 09/23/2003 11:28:03 AM PDT by x1stcav ( HOOAHH!)
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To: misterrob
Are businesses that only hire college graduates illegally discriminating? Or do high school graduates have a right to be hired by them?
20 posted on 09/23/2003 11:28:26 AM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: Bikers4Bush
The league has the right to establish minimum requirements.
Whatever groups Maurice Clarett associates with (underage people seems to be salient in this case) must not be discriminated against!
</sarcasm>

21 posted on 09/23/2003 11:28:43 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (The everyday blessings of God are great--they just don't make "good copy.")
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To: Bikers4Bush
The Spencer Haywood NBA case should strike the NFL rule down.
22 posted on 09/23/2003 11:29:08 AM PDT by rftc
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To: rftc
The kid is legally 18 years old and should have a right to earn a living, either in Europe, the CFL or NFL..

I am over 18. Can I sue the NFL, European NFL, or the CFL because they have violated my rights to make a living playing in one of their leagues?

No one has a right to play in the NFL. No one.

23 posted on 09/23/2003 11:29:11 AM PDT by Phantom Lord (Distributor of Pain, Your Loss Becomes My Gain)
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To: triplejake
That's the problem. They are not competing employers they are all one entity. There is a certain amount of revenue sharing that goes on which ties them to one another more than it divides them.

24 posted on 09/23/2003 11:29:22 AM PDT by Bikers4Bush
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To: rftc
There's a difference between the right to earn a living and demanding someone be hired. He HAS the ability to earn a living, there are semi-pro leagues and internaitonal leagues with no ties to the NFL that have no age rule or different age rules (including the CFL). Or he can leave football entirely. What he does not have, what NO PERSON has, is the right to FORCE someone to hire him.
25 posted on 09/23/2003 11:29:28 AM PDT by discostu (just a tuna sandwich from another catering service)
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To: rftc
See Spencer Haywood. He sued the NBA, now the gates are open. I'm thinking about submitting my 14 yr old daughter's name for the draft next year...we need some cash. haha
26 posted on 09/23/2003 11:29:33 AM PDT by jonalvy44
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To: KevinDavis; discostu
Sorry the NFL is a private organization and they can set the rules in who to take and not to take. Also there is no right to earn a living.

Didn't the NBA lose a similar case around 10-15 years ago?
27 posted on 09/23/2003 11:29:52 AM PDT by Stone Mountain
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Funny enough, the judge who has drawn the case is legendary OSU coach Woody Hayes' son.

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28 posted on 09/23/2003 11:29:55 AM PDT by mhking (Don't mess in the affairs of dragons; For you are crunchy, and taste great with ketchup...)
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To: Stone Mountain
To my knowledge the NBA teams do not have a revenue sharing system set up, or at least did not at the time of that case.
29 posted on 09/23/2003 11:30:21 AM PDT by Bikers4Bush
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To: Bikers4Bush
He is not going to lose...see MLB and NBA.

Noone has ever challenged the NFL because the issue will be moot by the time they are elgible for the draft...

30 posted on 09/23/2003 11:31:11 AM PDT by ContemptofCourt
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To: rftc
Doesn't apply, different entities.

The NFL has revenue sharing and I don't believe that the NBA had it at the time of that case or has it now.
31 posted on 09/23/2003 11:32:07 AM PDT by Bikers4Bush
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To: triplejake
From an employment perspective NFL teams are not competing employers. They are franchises, just like different McDonalds stores, they are functionally ONE employer with numerous sites but a common set of rules.
32 posted on 09/23/2003 11:32:14 AM PDT by discostu (just a tuna sandwich from another catering service)
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To: Bikers4Bush
I don't think it much matters what happens in court. This kid if he gets into the NFL will either become the bad ass of the gridiron and smash everyone who takes a shot, which will be all of them including teammates, or he'll washout. I choose the latter.
33 posted on 09/23/2003 11:33:14 AM PDT by bigfootbob
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To: Bikers4Bush
To my knowledge the NBA teams do not have a revenue sharing system set up, or at least did not at the time of that case.

Perhaps, but how is that relevent to the case? Are you saying that the courts made this decision to let younger players in specifically because of the revenue system that was in place at the time?
34 posted on 09/23/2003 11:33:26 AM PDT by Stone Mountain
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To: mhking
You think that was by chance? (that Woody Hayes's kid is the judge hearing the case-lol! )
35 posted on 09/23/2003 11:33:51 AM PDT by rftc
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To: discostu
What's the minimum standard? They already have juniors coming out early and let's face it, requiring college degrees for football players is well...... impractical to say the least given the reason the universities recruited them there to begin with. A job that requires some level of education is fine but what does that have to do with football? The NFL loses on this basis.

I don't see the NFL winning on this long term. Clarett may wind up in court for two years or more (The NFL is a big time hitter when it comes to litigation) but eventually, they are going to have to accept underclassmen.

36 posted on 09/23/2003 11:34:41 AM PDT by misterrob
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To: rftc
Friggin' marvelous! Local talk radio will be worthless with buckeye BS all week instead of just the day before and after the next game.
37 posted on 09/23/2003 11:34:59 AM PDT by Orangedog (Soccer-Moms are the biggest threat to your freedoms and the republic !)
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To: r9etb
This kid needs to sack up, suck it up, and take responsibility for his actions. If he doesn't want to stay in school he can go play in the CFL. The NFL should not have to change it's rules to accomodate this kid. He has already proven he is irresponible, imagine what happens when he gets money and has his crew hangin' with him.
38 posted on 09/23/2003 11:35:14 AM PDT by sean327 (Life is hard, it's even harder when your stupid. Sgt Striker-Sands of Iwo Jima)
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To: Bikers4Bush
How does revenue sharing address the issue of Maurice being of legal age and not being able to compete in the NFL?
39 posted on 09/23/2003 11:35:16 AM PDT by rftc
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The kid is legally 18 years old and should have a right to earn a living, either in Europe, the CFL or NFL..

Nobody is denying him the opportunity to earn a living. His "rights" are not being infringed.

The NFL, for what it's worth, has the right to put certain limitations on those who they employ. No different from the military or police or other organizations putting lower and upper limits on the ages of those who apply for their employ.

There might be a fight, but ultimately, the League and it's member teams can hire who they want. If he wants to play pro so bad, the CFL or Arena League could always use him.

40 posted on 09/23/2003 11:35:23 AM PDT by mhking (Don't mess in the affairs of dragons; For you are crunchy, and taste great with ketchup...)
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To: Stone Mountain
See #32. It's the same principle.

You have to buy the right to own a team from the NFL. You then have to share certain parts of revenue with other teams.

In essence it's one large corporation and the NFL has been slowly asserting that fact over the years in anticipation fo this. Take a look around the stadiums these days, lot's of NFL logos on the field etc.

Listen the to broadcast rights that are read at the end of the games "The exclusive property of (insert team name) and the National Football League."

He's gonna get waxed.

41 posted on 09/23/2003 11:37:27 AM PDT by Bikers4Bush
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To: misterrob
Minimum standard is three years out of high school, period.
42 posted on 09/23/2003 11:38:15 AM PDT by Bikers4Bush
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To: mhking
I really have a distaste for how the Clarett family have handled the media through Jim Brown.

But isn't this situation a bit different than allowing soldiers who are 40 years old to enlist in the military?

43 posted on 09/23/2003 11:38:23 AM PDT by rftc
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To: misterrob
On the other hand, are you willing as a coach or owner to waste a high draft pick on a kid with his history?

He hasn't killed or raped anyone yet, so by NFL (and DNC) standards, he's a choir boy.

44 posted on 09/23/2003 11:38:36 AM PDT by Labyrinthos
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To: Bikers4Bush
Aka legal drinking age.
45 posted on 09/23/2003 11:38:43 AM PDT by Bikers4Bush
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To: rftc
should have a right to earn a living

That's crap. The only rights you have are in the Constitution. I don't recall an NFL amendment in it. Playing professional sports is a privlidge. Clarett screwed himself out of a career, and now wants the rules changes because he broke them? Nothing more than B.S. Period.

46 posted on 09/23/2003 11:38:45 AM PDT by rintense
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To: rftc
Dont blame OSU... Tressel tried to help this guy. Tressel was betrayed by Clarett and Claretts moms greed.
47 posted on 09/23/2003 11:39:14 AM PDT by smith288 ("The key to our success will be your execution." -Scott Adams)
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To: Bikers4Bush
Agreed...Good luck to him, but even if he did get in to the draft, who would draft him? He hasn't even played a whole season(missed about half last year with an injury).

BTW, we are OSU fans and live about 20 miles from campus! This guy deserves the negativity about to follow. He(and his single(?) mother) have shown no remorse at all for his behavior(the fraudulant claims, the questionable funds, etc). I'm sick of thugs and various other two bit criminals who have athletic talent bringing up ridiculous claims like this or behaving in any manner they wish, usually supported by family members looking for their meal ticket and who have been grooming them for said meal ticket all their lives without concern for the character of the child they are grooming for "greatness".
48 posted on 09/23/2003 11:40:06 AM PDT by glory
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To: rintense
I meant 'as a legal adult of 18 years of age' he should have the right to play in the NFL.

As long as he passes the physical and drug tests just like any other athlete..

49 posted on 09/23/2003 11:40:33 AM PDT by rftc
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To: jonalvy44
Spencer Haywood did NOT sue the NBA. That's an urban legend.

Spencer Haywood signed a contract with the ABA's Denver Rockets after completing two years of NCAA competition. It was the NCAA that sued Haywood, because their four-year rule prohibited a college athlete from turning pro until after they had four years in the NCAA. The courts took about eighteen months to rule that the four-year rule had no basis in law; in other words, the NCAA couldn't interfere with Haywood's right to sign a pro deal with the Rockets.

This situation is completely different from the Haywood case. Clarett has to find a basis in law to overturn the NFL's rules, not the NCAA's rules. That is much more difficult. Antitrust is the best chance, although the USFL case amounted to only $3.

The NBA eventually dropped its age requirement, since after the Haywood case and the later signing of Moses Malone by Utah of the ABA, they didn't want to lose all of the top talent. Legal action had nothing to do with it.
50 posted on 09/23/2003 11:41:01 AM PDT by You Dirty Rats
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