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Set up? Anatomy of the contrived Wilson "scandal"
Multiple & linked in article | 10/2/03 | Wolfstar

Posted on 10/02/2003 7:47:17 AM PDT by Wolfstar

Note to Readers
This article uses excerpts from mainstream news sources to establish how former Amb. Joseph C. Wilson IV morphed over months from the anonymous source of a forgotten CIA-requested report, to theself-described outraged husband at the center of Washington's latest political firestorm. The sources these excerpts are drawn from are extensive and easily could make a fair-sized booklet. Therefore, the excerpts are necessarily tightly focused, and the reader is encouraged to:

  1. Pay close attention to details of how Wilson's statements and behavior morph over time—literally from no mention in an interview conducted by Bill Moyers one month after the SOUA, to his recent statements (reported elsewhere) about seeing Karl Rove being escorted from the White House in handcuffs, and movie deals for his wife and himself.
  2. Use the links provided for each excerpt to read the full source material.

Takeoff Point for Controversy
"The International Atomic Energy Agency confirmed in the 1990s that Saddam Hussein had an advanced nuclear weapons development program, had a design for a nuclear weapon and was working on five different methods of enriching uranium for a bomb. The British government has learned that Saddam Hussein recently sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa. Our intelligence sources tell us that he has attempted to purchase high-strength aluminum tubes suitable for nuclear weapons production."
State of the Union Address, President George W. Bush, 1/28/03

Background
Mar. 31, 2003: In a lengthy New Yorker article (Who lied to whom?) Seymour Hersh writes: "The Bush Administration's reliance on...Niger documents may...have stemmed from more than bureaucratic carelessness or political overreaching. Forged documents and false accusations have been an element in U.S. and British policy toward Iraq at least since the fall of 1997...President Bill Clinton...hinted of renewed bombing, but...the British and...Americans were losing the battle for international public opinion. A former Clinton Administration official told me that London had resorted to...spreading false information about Iraq. The British propaganda program...was known to a few senior officials in Washington. 'I knew that was going on,' the former Clinton Administration official said of the British efforts."

"The chance for American intelligence to challenge the documents came as the Administration debated whether to pass them on to ElBaradei...A former intelligence officer told me that some questions about the authenticity of the Niger documents were raised inside the government by analysts at the Department of Energy and the State Department's Bureau of Intelligence and Research. However, these warnings were not heeded."

" 'Somebody deliberately let something false get in there,' the former high-level intelligence official added. 'It could not have gotten into the system without the agency being involved. Therefore it was an internal intention. Someone set someone up.' "

Bill Moyers interviews Joseph Wilson
Just one month to the day after the SOUA, on Feb. 28, Bill Moyers conducts a lengthy interview of Joseph Wilson for PBS. (Click for full transcript.) This is a golden opportunity (and contemporaneous to the SOUA), yet at no time does Wilson—who claims to have been immediately concerned about the Iraq-Africa reference in the SOUA—raise his concerns with Moyers. In fact, there is exactly one reference to the SOUA and then only in passing as Wilson and Moyers speculate as to what might be Hussein's reaction to the threats of war.

The first published reference to Wilson
Although it keeps bubbling in Leftist/Democrat circles, the story fades publicly until Walter Pincus of the Washington Post writes an article titled "CIA Did Not Share Doubt on Iraq Data." Published June 12, Pincus writes:

"Armed with information purportedly showing that Iraqi officials had been seeking to buy uranium in Niger...the CIA in early February 2002 dispatched a retired U.S. ambassador to the country to investigate the claims, according to the senior U.S. officials and the former government official...The sources spoke on condition of anonymity and on condition that the name of the former ambassador not be disclosed."

"After returning to the United States, the envoy reported to the CIA that the uranium-purchase story was false, the sources said...However, the CIA did not include details of the former ambassador's report and his identity as the source, which would have added to the credibility of his findings, in its intelligence reports that were shared with other government agencies. Instead, the CIA only said that Niger government officials had denied the attempted deal had taken place, a senior administration said."

" 'This gent made a visit to the region and chatted up his friends,' a senior intelligence official said, describing the agency's view of the mission. 'He relayed back to us that they said it was not true and that he believed them.' "

"When the British government published an intelligence document on Iraq in September 2002 claiming that Baghdad had 'sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa,' the former ambassador called the CIA officers who sent him to Niger and was told they were looking into new information about the claim, sources said. The former envoy later called the CIA and State Department after Bush's State of the Union speech and was told 'not to worry,' according to one U.S. official."

Who would know of, and want these phone calls made public except Wilson? It's clear that Wilson, himself, was the source who called Pincus' attention to his, by then, all-but-forgotten trip to Africa. So it's fair at this point to ask: Why did Wilson plant this nugget about himself in Pincus' story? Was he ticked because his report was not used? Significantly, this veiled reference to himself provided an excuse for Wilson's subsequent outing of himself as the "retired ambassador." Also significantly, without this Pincus story there would have been no curious reporters like Robert Novak to continue the hunt for additional story material—and no opportunity for Mrs. Plame-Wilson to later also be "outed."

Wilson "outs" himself
Note that Pincus reports "the sources" had asked him to keep the name of the "former ambassador" secret, and Pincus complied. Yet just three weeks later, Wilson "outs" himself in his July 6 New York Times article entitled What I Didn't Find in Africa. He begins with the following provocative claim:

"Did the Bush administration manipulate intelligence about Saddam Hussein's weapons programs to justify an invasion of Iraq?...Based on my experience with the administration in the months leading up to the war, I have little choice but to conclude that some of the intelligence related to Iraq's nuclear weapons program was twisted to exaggerate the Iraqi threat."

His experience with the administration? Huh?! Some CIA mid-level officials asked him to look into the Iraq-Niger connection a year earlier. He made a report and they filed it. End of his "experience with the administration."

In this NYT article, Wilson goes on to say—with no small touch of conceit: "It was my experience in Africa that led me to play a small role in the effort to verify information about Africa's suspected link to Iraq's nonconventional weapons programs. Those news stories about that unnamed former envoy who went to Niger? That's me...In February 2002, I was informed by officials at the [CIA] that Vice President Dick Cheney's office had questions about a particular intelligence report. While I never saw the report, I was told that it referred to a memorandum of agreement that documented the sale of uranium yellowcake...by Niger to Iraq in the late 1990's. The agency officials asked if I would travel to Niger to check out the story so they could provide a response to the vice president's office."

Note that Wilson does not say what prompted the CIA to select him for this mission beyond his "experience in Africa." Who called his experience to the CIA officials' attention in February 2002? This is a very legitimate question, so Robert Novak was quite right when he tried to find out how a long-time Democrat, former member of Bill Clinton's National Security staff, and contributor to the Al Gore and John Kerry presidential campaigns, was chosen to conduct this mission. And why did the CIA even need to turn to a retired ambassador in the first place? The then-current U.S. ambassador to Niger had also looked into the matter and had come to the same conclusions.

Before he left Niger, Wilson said he briefed the ambassador on his findings. After returning to Washington...he provided "a detailed briefing to the CIA [and]...the State Department African Affairs Bureau. There was nothing secret or earth-shattering in my report, just as there was nothing secret about my trip...Though I did not file a written report..."

Wilson then claims he "thought the Niger matter was settled and went back to my life. (I did take part in the Iraq debate, arguing that a strict containment regime backed by the threat of force was preferable to an invasion.) In September 2002, however, Niger re-emerged. The British government published a 'white paper' asserting that...Hussein and his unconventional arms posed an immediate danger. As evidence, the report cited Iraq's attempts to purchase uranium from an African country."

If, in 2002, Wilson was so concerned, as he professes today, he could have written an article immediately after the British dossier was published. The subject was the hottest one on the media radar, and he would have had no trouble getting it published that September. Yet he waited about 10 months before writing this NYT piece. Why? In it he tacks on the fresh concern about the President's SOUA (remember, he hadn't said a word about it to Moyers in February). Why?

Wilson continued, "Then, in January, President Bush, citing the British dossier, repeated the charges about Iraqi efforts to buy uranium from Africa...The next day, I reminded a friend at the State Department of my trip and suggested that if the president had been referring to Niger, then his conclusion was not borne out by the facts as I understood them."

Wilson concludes his NYT piece with the following paragraph. By the way, note how the tenor of his commentary is becoming more harsh. Also note his subtle pique about—from his point of view—the CIA's failure to give his report the weight he expected.

"The question now is how that answer was or was not used by our political leadership. If my information was deemed inaccurate, I understand (though I would be very interested to know why). If, however, the information was ignored because it did not fit certain preconceptions about Iraq, then a legitimate argument can be made that we went to war under false pretenses."

Wilson ratchets up his charges and rhetoric
In a July 6 Washington Post piece titled, "Ex-Envoy: Nuclear Report Ignored," Richard Leiby and Walter Pincus help Wilson get up a head of steam on this story.

(A couple of curiosities: What is the connection between Pincus and Wilson? How is it that Leiby and Pincus have this article all ready to go—complete with harsh quotes from Wilson—ON THE SAME DAY Wilson's article appears in the New York Times?)

The Leiby-Pincus article begins: "Joseph C. Wilson, the retired United States ambassador whose CIA-directed mission to Niger in early 2002 helped debunk claims that Iraq had tried to obtain uranium there for nuclear weapons, has said for the first time publicly that U.S. And British officials ignored his findings and exaggerated the public case for invading Iraq...'It really comes down to the administration misrepresenting the facts on an issue that was a fundamental justification for going to war,' Wilson said yesterday. 'It begs the question, what else are they lying about?' "

Again note the ratcheting up of tone—in his own NYT article on the same day, Wilson says IF his report was deemed inaccurate; IF it was ignored then a legitimate argument can be made. In contrast, here it's a declarative statement that the administration misrepresented the facts, and Wilson introduces the entirely unsupported notion that the administration is "lying."

Leiby and Pincus also put this nugget in their piece: "After Bush's speech, Wilson said he contacted the State Department, noted that the Niger story had been debunked and said, 'You might want to make sure the facts are straight.' " Note the similarity and—more importantly—the difference in what Wilson wrote in his own NYT piece:

"The next day, I reminded a friend at the State Department of my trip and suggested that if the president had been referring to Niger, then his conclusion was not borne out by the facts as I understood them."

In concluding their article, Leiby and Pincus write, "Last week, Wilson said of Hussein: 'I'm glad the tyrant is gone.' But he does not believe the war was ever about eliminating Hussein's weapons of mass destruction. It was, he said, a political push to 'redraw the map of the Middle East.' While his family prepared for a Fourth of July dinner, he proudly showed a reporter photos of himself with Bush's parents."

So at least one reporter knew Mrs. Plame-Wilson personally—not only knew her, but shared Fourth of July dinner with her and the Wilson family BEFORE THE NOVAK PIECE. Who in their right mind would take bets at this point that the reporter in question was NOT Pincus?! In fact, the dual statements about the State Department phone call clearly demonstrate that Leiby and Pincus had an advance copy of Wilson's NYT article.

Robert Novak steps into it
Prompted by Wilson's NYT piece and curiosity as to why Wilson was selected for the Niger trip, Robert Novak writes, "Mission to Niger" on July 14. He begins: "The CIA's decision to send retired diplomat Joseph C. Wilson to Africa in February 2002 to investigate possible Iraqi purchases of uranium was made routinely at a low level without Director George Tenet's knowledge. Remarkably, this produced a political firestorm that has not yet subsided."

"Wilson's report that an Iraqi purchase of uranium yellowcake from Niger was highly unlikely was regarded by the CIA as less than definitive, and it is doubtful Tenet ever saw it. Certainly, President Bush did not, prior to his 2003 State of the Union address, when he attributed reports of attempted uranium purchases to the British government."

Novak briefly discusses background to the Wilson mission, then writes: "Wilson never worked for the CIA, but his wife, Valerie Plame, is an Agency operative on weapons of mass destruction. Two senior administration officials told me Wilson's wife suggested sending him to Niger to investigate the Italian report. The CIA says its counter-proliferation officials selected Wilson and asked his wife to contact him. 'I will not answer any question about my wife,' Wilson told me."

Novak also notes: "All this [the Niger trip and Wilson's report] was forgotten until reporter Walter Pincus revealed in the Washington Post...that an unnamed retired diplomat had given the CIA a negative report. Not until Wilson went public...however, did his finding ignite the firestorm...During the run-up to the invasion of Iraq, Wilson had taken a measured public position—viewing weapons of mass destruction as a danger but considering military action as a last resort. He has seemed much more critical of the administration since revealing his role in Niger," Novak observes.

In his conclusion, Novak quotes Wilson: "After the White House admitted error, Wilson declined all television and radio interviews. 'The story was never me,' he told me, 'it was always the statement in (Bush's) speech.' " (Note in the David Corn piece below how this morphs also.)

Oh, really. Never about him, but always about the SOUA statement. This is the same Joseph Wilson who, at the beginning of this saga, said he first became concerned when the British government released its dossier in September 2002. So which is it, Joe?

Hungry for a Bush scandal, the Left leaps
The first charge that the Bush administration "outed" Wilson's wife in order to "punish" him comes in a piece by David Corn in The Nation on July 16—a scant two days after Novak's piece appeared. Titled, "A White House Smear," the piece begins with a suitably inflammatory Leftist spin:

"Did senior Bush officials blow the cover of a US intelligence officer working covertly in a field of vital importance to national security-and break the law-in order to strike at a Bush administration critic and intimidate others?...It sure looks that way, if conservative journalist Bob Novak can be trusted."

Of course, Novak neither said nor implied any such thing, but pointing that out wouldn't suit Corn's purpose. Instead, without a shred of evidence, Corn claims, "Wilson caused problems for the White House, and his wife was outed as an undercover CIA officer." Corn then takes the Wilson statement about it "not being about me," and turns it into, "I will not answer questions about my wife. This is not about me and less so about my wife. It has always been about the facts underpinning the President's statement in the state of the union speech." In quotes, no less. So was this a new quote directly from Wilson to Corn, or did Corn deliberately rephrase the original quote in Novak's piece to make it stronger from Corn's point of view? In other words, is Wilson embellishing his tale, or is Corn lying?

In a presumed attempt to write sympathetically of Mrs. Plame-Wilson, Corn then goes on to add insult to a presumed injury by bringing the couple's children into the story: "So he will neither confirm nor deny that his wife—who is the mother of three-year-old twins—works for the CIA. But let's assume she does. That would seem to mean that the Bush administration has screwed one of its own top-secret operatives in order to punish Wilson or to send a message to others who might challenge it."

(How does Corn know they have three-year-old twins, by the way?)

Corn goes on to say, "The sources for Novak's assertion about Wilson's wife appear to be 'two senior administration officials.' If so, a pair of top Bush officials told a reporter the name of a CIA operative who apparently has worked under what's known as "nonofficial cover" and who has had the dicey and difficult mission of tracking parties trying to buy or sell weapons of mass destruction or WMD material. If Wilson's wife is such a person—and the CIA is unlikely to have many employees like her—her career has been destroyed by the Bush administration. (Assuming she did not tell friends and family about her real job, these Bush officials have also damaged her personal life.) Without acknowledging whether she is a deep-cover CIA employee, Wilson says, 'Naming her this way would have compromised every operation, every relationship, every network with which she had been associated in her entire career. This is the stuff of...Aldrich Ames.' If she is not a CIA employee and Novak is reporting accurately, then the White House has wrongly branded a woman known to friends as an energy analyst for a private firm as a CIA officer."

Corn "assumes" that she did not tell friends and family about her real job, so how does Corn know that she worked under "nonofficial cover?" How does he know what mission she had been assigned? If even the mention of her name and employment with the CIA is so damaging, why did Corn go further than Novak and reveal her cover type and mission? And good heavens, but he now has Wilson saying this is the stuff of Aldrich Ames!

Corn goes on: "Novak tells me that he was indeed tipped off by government officials about Wilson's wife and had no reluctance about naming her. 'I figured if they gave it to me,' he says. 'They'd give it to others....I'm a reporter. Somebody gives me information and it's accurate. I generally use it.' And Wilson says Novak told him that his sources were administration officials."

So yet another curiosity pops up in this saga: In the 10/1/03 article discussing his role, Bob Novak's description of what happened contradicts what, in July, Corn said Novak told him. Was Corn lying then, or was Novak bragging to him then, or is Novak lying now?

In any case, Corn quotes Wilson again: " 'Stories like this,' Wilson says, 'are not intended to intimidate me, since I've already told my story. But it's pretty clear it is intended to intimidate others who might come forward. You need only look at the stories of intelligence analysts who say they have been pressured. They may have kids in college, they may be vulnerable to these types of smears.' "

Note how, between February and July, Wilson's story morphs from no mention during the Moyers interview, to a phone call to State to voice concern, then a statement indicating that he's OK with everything as long as the Administration admitted its SOUA mistake, to the above quote with its suggestion of danger to kids, to where we are today.

Corn ends with the theme we've heard from the Left ever since his article appeared: "The Wilson smear was a thuggish act. Bush and his crew abused and misused intelligence to make their case for war. Now there is evidence Bushies used classified information and put the nation's counter-proliferation efforts at risk merely to settle a score. It is a sign that with this gang politics trumps national security."

"A thuggish act?" Evidence? "Put the nation's counter-proliferation efforts at risk to settle a score?" Quite list of assertions, based as they are on zero evidence of any such thing. In fact, when looked at in the sequence above, Wilson seems to have been the person who set up the whole story.


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1 posted on 10/02/2003 7:47:17 AM PDT by Wolfstar
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We CAN fight back.

Coorection ... We WILL fight back

3 posted on 10/02/2003 7:49:34 AM PDT by Mo1 (http://www.favewavs.com/wavs/cartoons/spdemocrats.wav)
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Good Job! BTTT
4 posted on 10/02/2003 7:53:26 AM PDT by The_Victor
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Ping — long, but it pieces much of the genesis of the phony Wilson scandal together.
5 posted on 10/02/2003 7:53:46 AM PDT by Wolfstar (NO SECURITY = NO ECONOMY)
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Doesn't Novak, a supposed conservative, have the information that could help to end this now?
6 posted on 10/02/2003 7:55:37 AM PDT by Consort
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To: The_Victor
Thanks. Took some digging, but the outline of the truth that this was a set up exists. Makes for a long article, but the laugh is on the Left, because they don't expect any of us in "the great unwashed masses" to take the time or effort to pull such info together. They also don't expect others of us to take the time to read and understand it.
7 posted on 10/02/2003 7:57:43 AM PDT by Wolfstar (NO SECURITY = NO ECONOMY)
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To: Wolfstar
Bump and thanks SO MUCH for posting this wonderful stuff!! I applaud you!
8 posted on 10/02/2003 7:59:20 AM PDT by alwaysconservative ("If you can't change your mind, are you sure you still have one?" Maxine)
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To: Wolfstar
This issue and the Rush situation provide a great warning for us! Willie's White House sewer dwellers, those you lied, fabricated, spun. mislead, and diverted over 8 years are still in business. They are like cornered rats, snarling at everything.

What we have here is a conspiracy to divert attention from dem corruption and negativeness by attacking the leaders and thinkers on the side of truth and light. The ultra-left wing, neocommunist media is happy to carry the messages.

Pick the leaders on our side. Bush, Cheney, Rush, are some already under attack. But others, Rice, Powell (yes, they'll even attack blacks who are not leftists), Clarence Thomas, lead senators and governors, industrail leaders and a very few folks in entertainment will take fire between now and national convention time. The dems can't advance their own issues or people and must blunt the influence of the good guys.

BTW, these are Willie's White House sewer dwellers. We know where Begala is, but where is Craig Livingstone and the other really nasty types that McAuliffe and the DNC use?

9 posted on 10/02/2003 8:01:40 AM PDT by Tacis
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Excellent! Email this to every conservative pundit and reporter that you can think of. Be sure to include Michael Medved and Hugh Hewitt. Rush is going to be rather busy for the next few days. Man, what an all-out Democrat slime-assault we are witnessing, and this is just begining. We must continue to keep the truth above the ever-rising flood of muck and mire. The perpetrators do not deserve to survive their own desperation ploy, either.
10 posted on 10/02/2003 8:02:00 AM PDT by Richard Axtell
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To: Wolfstar
Haven't finished it all yet, but Wolfstar, this is terrific work. I just have to comment though, that if a non-reporter using only regular internet resources can put all this together so well, why can't reporters with all the nexus-lexis kinds of resources get it right? Oh, that's just rhetorical. I do know why. Because they want to create a certain unfavorable impression. They have no interest in the truth, just in their agenda--getting a 'rat back into the Whitehouse.

11 posted on 10/02/2003 8:02:13 AM PDT by MizSterious (Support whirled peas!)
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To: Wolfstar
Excellent summary - can I repost this in my blog (with full credit and linkage?)?
12 posted on 10/02/2003 8:02:17 AM PDT by Chad Fairbanks (<Tag>Something unspeakably clever</Tag>)
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To: Tacis
And Rove appears to be a particularly important target for their smears. In other words, all the people who could help the most to get GWB reelected.

13 posted on 10/02/2003 8:03:39 AM PDT by MizSterious (Support whirled peas!)
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Of course you can use all of it or any part of it. Let's spread the word as far and wide as possible.
14 posted on 10/02/2003 8:04:13 AM PDT by Wolfstar (NO SECURITY = NO ECONOMY)
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To: Wolfstar
INTREP - print
15 posted on 10/02/2003 8:05:32 AM PDT by LiteKeeper
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To: Wolfstar
bttt for later
16 posted on 10/02/2003 8:07:49 AM PDT by machman
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To: Wolfstar
I normally don't read these types of threads. I look at the source and if it doesn't give one . . . I go on to the next thread.

I'm glad I didn't here. The research is great, the analysis even better, and this thread has really gotten me pumped.

Great job, wolf.

17 posted on 10/02/2003 8:09:05 AM PDT by geedee (Suppose you were a traitorous, lying jackass and suppose you were a liberal. Oops I repeat myself.)
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To: Wolfstar
I normally don't read these types of threads. I look at the source and if it doesn't give one . . . I go on to the next thread.

I'm glad I didn't here. The research is great, the analysis even better, and this thread has really gotten me pumped.

Great job, wolf.

18 posted on 10/02/2003 8:09:11 AM PDT by geedee (Suppose you were a traitorous, lying jackass and suppose you were a liberal. Oops I repeat myself.)
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To: Wolfstar
Excellent work, which ties in with a few thoughts I'd had.

It also raises a few questions. The big one is whether Wilson's initial report on yellowcake reliable? The other question is if this has been a set-up to get the Bush administration, starting with Ms. Plame recommending her husband for the mission.
19 posted on 10/02/2003 8:09:53 AM PDT by Celtjew Libertarian (Shake Hands with the Serpent: Poetry by Charles Lipsig aka Celtjew http://books.lulu.com/lipsig)
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To: MizSterious
I began my career as a reporter, although I moved into a different field some years ago. But it's what's at the heart of your rhetorical question that motivated me to do some digging. BTW, got to get ready for work, now, so need to sign off. I know this is a big news day because of what's going on with Rush, but I hope this important info doesn't get lost in the shuffle. We can't fight the Left if we are uninformed.
20 posted on 10/02/2003 8:10:58 AM PDT by Wolfstar (NO SECURITY = NO ECONOMY)
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To: Wolfstar
THANKS!! Great work!! Ignorance and 15 second sound-byte attention spans are what the Left is relying on........it's good work like this that will kick them square in the A**!!
21 posted on 10/02/2003 8:11:45 AM PDT by soozla (FreeRepublic=Cootie Shot against liberalism)
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To: geedee
Sorry for the double-post. I kept getting an "internal server error" and didn't know it went thru.
22 posted on 10/02/2003 8:13:26 AM PDT by geedee (Suppose you were a traitorous, lying jackass and suppose you were a liberal. Oops I repeat myself.)
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Great compendium, thanks for putting it together.

Bookmarking so I can chase the links.


23 posted on 10/02/2003 8:14:26 AM PDT by Sabertooth (No Drivers' Licences for Illegal Aliens. Petition SB60. http://www.saveourlicense.com/n_home.htm)
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To: geedee
Thanks, I'm glad you did, too. All of this info is sourced, with links to each source. There's no wild conspiracy theory, and nothing but mainstream sources. It's just a matter of picking up the published thread and following it back as far as possible. Then what's going on becomes obvious.
24 posted on 10/02/2003 8:15:06 AM PDT by Wolfstar (NO SECURITY = NO ECONOMY)
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To: Wolfstar
Thanks... and bttt...
25 posted on 10/02/2003 8:15:14 AM PDT by Chad Fairbanks (<Tag>Something unspeakably clever</Tag>)
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To: Wolfstar
BRAVO BUMP!!!

Great work.....I've sent it everywhere!
26 posted on 10/02/2003 8:16:38 AM PDT by JulieRNR21 (Take W-04....Across America!)
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BRAVO BUMP!!!

Great work.....I've sent it everywhere....cyberfriends & friendly media!!
27 posted on 10/02/2003 8:17:26 AM PDT by JulieRNR21 (Take W-04....Across America!)
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Wolfstar -- GREAT JOB! Thanks for putting all of this together!

ALL -- Please distribute this to everyone you know! We need to get this information everywhere since the mainstream media is ignoring the facts!

Thanks!
28 posted on 10/02/2003 8:25:06 AM PDT by PhiKapMom (Support our President -- Donate to Bush-Cheney '04 (www.georgewbush.com/donate))
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To: Wolfstar
BBC July 9 2003

"Doubts about a claim that Iraq had tried to buy uranium from the African state of Niger were aired 10 months before Mr Bush included the allegation in his key State of the Union address this year, a CIA official has told the BBC...
...a former US diplomat, Ambassador Joseph Wilson, went on the record at the weekend to say that he had travelled to Africa to investigate the uranium claims and found no evidence to support them. "

IMHO Wilson's wife was the "CIA official".


A husband-wife team of petulent traitors out to disrupt US foreign policy.

They should both be in prison.

29 posted on 10/02/2003 8:26:26 AM PDT by mrsmith
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To: Wolfstar
I haven't read your entire post yet, but did Wilson state something to the effect that his goal is to bring the Bush admin down? I think that I read that somewhere yesterday, but it was only one mention and I'm not sure that I read it correctly.

Anyone aware of a statement like that by Wilson?

Thanks Wolfstar, for putting all this together in one post. I intend to read it through today.
30 posted on 10/02/2003 8:27:30 AM PDT by alnick (The truth shall set you free.)
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To: Wolfstar
mark
31 posted on 10/02/2003 8:29:56 AM PDT by BARLF
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To: mrsmith
bump
32 posted on 10/02/2003 8:30:18 AM PDT by Former Proud Canadian
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To: Wolfstar
Great stuff bump.
33 posted on 10/02/2003 8:33:00 AM PDT by michaelt
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To: Wolfstar
Great stuff bump.
34 posted on 10/02/2003 8:33:04 AM PDT by michaelt
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To: alnick
Yes he did, He said he was dedicated to bringing down the Bush Administration
35 posted on 10/02/2003 8:33:32 AM PDT by MJY1288 (Joseph Wilson is a fraud)
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To: alnick
Yes he did, He said he was dedicated to bringing down the Bush Administration
36 posted on 10/02/2003 8:33:49 AM PDT by MJY1288 (Joseph Wilson is a fraud)
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To: alnick
"Neo-conservatives and religious conservatives have hijacked this administration, and I consider myself on a personal mission to destroy both."
-joseph wilson

http://www.washingtontimes.com/op-ed/20030930-084116-8479r.htm
37 posted on 10/02/2003 8:34:17 AM PDT by Kleon (You don't need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows)
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To: Kleon; MJY1288
Thanks!
38 posted on 10/02/2003 8:35:08 AM PDT by alnick (The truth shall set you free.)
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To: Wolfstar
Nice work.
39 posted on 10/02/2003 8:35:49 AM PDT by Redcoat LI
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To: Wolfstar
You're a champ. Keep on researching. We need go-getting ball-busters like you on the front lines.
40 posted on 10/02/2003 8:36:27 AM PDT by geedee (Suppose you were a traitorous, lying jackass and suppose you were a liberal. Oops I repeat myself.)
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To: alnick
you're welcome [bump]
41 posted on 10/02/2003 8:38:38 AM PDT by prognostigaator
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To: Wolfstar
Great work...will mark for later read. We will win this war, and take America back for the socialists. Fighting has begun in California.

Red

42 posted on 10/02/2003 8:39:06 AM PDT by Conservative4Ever (Wm. Wallace did not cry 'diversity' while being disemboweled.)
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To: Wolfstar
Outstanding! Thanks for taking the effort to lay this out. I had not realized that Walter Pincus was involved but this fact does not surprise me.
43 posted on 10/02/2003 8:39:55 AM PDT by Ben Hecks
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To: Wolfstar
Great job in puting this all together

Thanks

44 posted on 10/02/2003 8:43:42 AM PDT by MJY1288 (Joseph Wilson is a fraud)
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To: Wolfstar
BUMP!!
45 posted on 10/02/2003 8:44:52 AM PDT by OXENinFLA
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To: Celtjew Libertarian
The big one is whether Wilson's initial report on yellowcake reliable?

Hmmmm...actually the big one is the following info from the CIA...

The agency pointed out that Iraq already had 500 tons of uranium, portions of which came from Niger, according to the International Atomic Energy Administration (IAEA).

Source

This backs up a previous statement by Stephen Hadley, Bush's #2 National Security guy...

An unsigned CIA memo on Oct. 5 advised that "the CIA had reservations about the British reporting" on Iraq's alleged attempts in Niger, Hadley [No.2 guy on Bush's National Security team] said. A second memo, sent on Oct. 6, elaborated on the CIA's doubts, describing "some weakness in the evidence," such as the fact that Iraq already had a large stock of uranium and probably wouldn't need more, Hadley said.

Source

I saw it admitted again in another story this morning. Why the big deal about Wilson's trip, when the truth is that Saddam already had uranium?
46 posted on 10/02/2003 8:45:01 AM PDT by ravingnutter
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To: Wolfstar
Well done! THank you!
47 posted on 10/02/2003 8:57:40 AM PDT by hoosiermama (.Prayers for all)
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To: Wolfstar
Great work -- thanks for your efforts!
48 posted on 10/02/2003 9:03:45 AM PDT by browardchad
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To: Wolfstar
Ahah, well, that explains why it was so well-done! It doesn't, however, explain why the "press" can't do it too--unless, as I said above, they don't want to. Thanks again. I've finally sifted through all of it, and emailed it to a couple of people. Great work. (Now if I can just avoid the dreaded "internal server error"...)

49 posted on 10/02/2003 9:05:52 AM PDT by MizSterious (Support whirled peas!)
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To: mrsmith
It is likely that the military and other agencies have uncovered lots of intelligence in Iraq, and it damns many operatives (over here) - making them, literally, traitors. With that in mind, it's easy to surmise that this episode is a pre-emptive strike intended to shield the Wilsons against the incriminating information that is about to come out. The Wilson defense will be that the stories of their complicity in aiding the enemy were planted or concocted by the Bush administration in retaliation for the damage done.
50 posted on 10/02/2003 9:09:10 AM PDT by mj81
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