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New York Post ^ | David Kay

Posted on 10/04/2003 5:02:13 AM PDT by Republican Red

Edited on 05/26/2004 5:16:59 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

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To: secretagent
The UN needs to go away...the sooner the better.

We shouldn't go to them at all, votes or no votes. It just lends legitmacy to something that is, IMHO, wholly illegitmate.

61 posted on 10/05/2003 6:03:26 AM PDT by Jeff Head
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To: meenie
Wholeheartedly agree with you and unfortunately the administration has strong opposition--like the democrats, the United Nations --if by going into Iraq, who probably the US knew would be an easy country totake over, we could not get UN and the democrats on board, how are we to go military and invade CHina or other countries? The battle is one step at a time and you go after the smaller countries and slowly work your way up. President Bush never said this was the only battle in the war against terrorism. It is to be a slow and tedious process.

Imagine if President BUsh loses and Dean or Clark or Hillary make it to the WHite House. This battle against the bigger rogue nations will come to a screeching halt. Whining and name calling or vehemently disagreeing with the president just adds ammunition and fuels the fire of dissent. This upcoming election is so critical and even here in the free republic those of us who argue and namecall are just adding to the hysteria.

We seem to think that President BUsh is the enemy and his whole administration is no good. That is quite the contrary and I will continue to defend the president b/c he is the best we have--

The attackers (I must admit you were one of them) of the president do no good b/c that further divides the cause that we so much need to win. We are doing so much more than Clinton ever did and it angers me to see that our own country betrays us with the slime ball democrats attacking the president and arguing about the WMD.
62 posted on 10/05/2003 6:11:32 AM PDT by olliemb (Pray---Fast---Trust in God and GWB will win in 2004)
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To: meenie
They use client states such as Iran, Iraq, NK, Sudan, Kosovo, to further their campaign against the United States. Moving to Central and South America, they are involved up to their eyeballs in Cuba, Venzuela, Brazil, Colombia, Peru, and we set here letting the takeover continue while arguing over WMD's being found or missing in Iraq. Iraq is the perfect diversion.

If we and our leaders don't wake up soon we will be conversing in Russian and Chinese dialects. This is my opinion and I grant you I am not an anti-war bigot supporting the socialist take-over but am worried about the future of our country. There is too much ideological chatter and not enough thinking at the present time. A house divided will be a weaker house if we don't get our head out of our proverbial ass.
Agreed. This is one of the major thesis of my book series, The Dragon's Fury Series.

I still believe we should have taken Iraq down...we just need to be watching and completely prepared for other hammers to fall and changing our basic polict towards them.

In that book series, we are drug into a real major war in the Middle East a few years after Iraqi Freedom and then must respond to a major military action by N. Korea against the South.

China professes nuetrality and appears to try and negotiate as we send major forces across the Pacific to intervene. As we approach Korea, those forces are ambushed by the Chinese while hundreds and hundreds of terrorists unleash unholy hell against citizens and infrastructure all across the continental US. China then breaks out into the Western Pacific, taking advantage of all they have prepared for in the China Sea (the Spratleys, etc.), by attacking Taiwan, helping N. Korea, attacking Okinawa and ultimately Japan.

I believe we'd best watch our back...and that in order to prevent such a fictional scenario from becoming reality, that we have to open our eyes to what China and others really represent (abject tyranny) and then start treating them accordingly...instead of funneling them the technology, the manufacturing and the dollars that are funding their rise to poer.

Just my opinion.

63 posted on 10/05/2003 6:14:30 AM PDT by Jeff Head
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To: Republican Red
Bump
64 posted on 10/05/2003 7:27:41 AM PDT by Darnright
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To: Jeff Head
Sounds like your books might be similar to the Tom Clancy series. That is one way that people can be awakened, even though the story is fictional. It seems to me that "The Hunt for Red October" described the potential of a disaffected Japanese general crashing his plane into the White House for revenge of the Japanese loss in a mythical war after Japan became an economic power-house. I will have to check on your books in the store.
65 posted on 10/05/2003 11:17:52 AM PDT by meenie
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To: olliemb
Your reasoning is sound up to a point. I have one question. How do you influence the President and his party to stick to the conservative view that most grassroots Republicans have without criticizing his actions when he starts straying to the left? His people check forums such as this and if there is no protest, the easiest course of action is to continue left. I want the Republican conservative viewpoint to rule this next election. I don't want the Dick Morris triangulation strategy to make our party into the me-too party.
66 posted on 10/05/2003 11:32:44 AM PDT by meenie
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To: meenie
I believe Clancy's book that had the disaffected Japanese airline pilot crashing into the White House was "Executive Orders" or one of the books near that time frame in his series.

If you want to get a look at my series, you'll have to do it online by paying a visit to the Dragon's Fury Series Web Site or Amazon or Barnes & Noble online.

Unfortunately, it isn't in the brick and mortar stores. Have to get a big contract for that to happen.

The books have also been written up a number of times here on FR. Use a keywrod search for DragonsFurySeries. Freeper NorseWood did a good review on Volume III HERE.

Best Fregards.

67 posted on 10/05/2003 12:24:11 PM PDT by Jeff Head
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To: meenie
I think you'll enjoy books by Jeff Head ~ I certainly do!
68 posted on 10/05/2003 12:28:56 PM PDT by blackie
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bump for later read!
69 posted on 10/05/2003 4:01:55 PM PDT by agrace
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To: meenie
I must confess I have forgotten why I originally opposed what you said. (Goes with the territory of a 55 year old and having been on a road trip this weekend).

Now having corresponded with you I guess it was your presentation of the argument that got my dander up--I am so tired of having people bash President Bush from the war in Iraq, terrorism, WMD, CIA leaks, etc that how you made your argument did not convince me that you were on his side. Certainly, GW is no saint George and he has made some mistakes--but he is SO much better than what the democrats can give us. And with all things, a little bit at a time working on an issue can finally change perhaps a new generation of why being a republican conservative is the right choice. And tho he does tend to go a tad to the left he must work with all Americans--not just his base and not just his right.

In my opinion, (if it does not relate to the subject at hand, please forgive), you cannot change people overnite. You must do it slowly and cover the important big items so that if you are not reelected at least you accomplished that which was of major importance-- banned partial birth abortion, attacked Saddam and his sons, worked on democracy and regime change in Iraq, got rid of Alqaeda stronghold in Afghanistan, and at least started us in the right direction in this war against terrorism.

However, if we here on the threads hyperventilate our opposition to him and not balance it out with what he has accomplished then all we have done (other than hoping his staff is reading our comments) is add fuel to the fire of the democrasts. And I just don't agree with that approach of many here on this dose.

There are a lot of moderate people who are neither right nor left and go either right or left on certain topics. So President Bush has tried to work with both--tho we got tax cuts, he had to work on social programs and issues but at a less growth than if a democrat was in charge.

Sorry for getting you all confused if I rambled but sheesh some comments here are really annoying--and outright venemous and angry.

70 posted on 10/05/2003 4:59:45 PM PDT by olliemb (Pray---Fast---Trust in God and GWB will win in 2004)
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